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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.10 11:58:00 -
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MinefieldS wrote: Wyvern w/ Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster I need to see this. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
baltec1
Bat Country
2107
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:16:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:MinefieldS wrote: Wyvern w/ Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster I need to see this.
I think I saw this one.
Not as good as the nyx that was lost to anom rats mind you. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:35:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Link one major fleet fight battle report with Shield Abaddons or stop lying.
Goons use Drake blobs nowadays...
If you gankers want me to use Skiffs instead of Macks, could you guys be so nice and give 4 of those. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
654
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:47:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Link one major fleet fight battle report with Shield Abaddons or stop lying. Goons use Drake blobs nowadays... Yeah, cause that's the only thing they fly ever.
Also confirming Goons are the only alliance I could have possibly been talking about, as opposed to my own for example which does have a Hellcat (armor tanked megapulse Abaddon) doctrine complete with armor logi and tech 3 armor heavy tackle. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1440
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Posted - 2012.09.10 18:58:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Link one major fleet fight battle report with Shield Abaddons or stop lying. Goons use Drake blobs nowadays... Yeah, cause that's the only thing they fly ever. Also confirming Goons are the only alliance I could have possibly been talking about, as opposed to my own for example which does have a Hellcat (armor tanked megapulse Abaddon) doctrine complete with armor logi and tech 3 armor heavy tackle. There are armor groups that go around. Just recently I saw xxDeath in their AHACs pew pewing with lasers.
Before and after that, I saw NC. and IRC sending armor HACs as well. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
betoli
Ketogenic Killzone
46
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Posted - 2012.09.10 19:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote: As baltec said, it was your choice then to limit yourself to those 6 ships. What role could more mining ships possibly fill?
Given that CCP are planning an ORE frig, one might conjecture an ORE frig
Also stealthy, speedy, ewar defended, armor tanky, ranged, t3/reconfigurable. In fact one could list all the things that make the combat ships diverse apart from the attack specialisations....
Did CCP post recently that 25% of people mine? As such a large profession its fantastically under represented in ships - but mainly its under represented in effort. I think they'd be better spending their time on the mining game mechanics to reduce the botability and boredom factors than making a dozen more barges - though a cloaky T3 indy/hybrid miner one would be fun.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
656
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Posted - 2012.09.10 21:48:00 -
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betoli wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote: As baltec said, it was your choice then to limit yourself to those 6 ships. What role could more mining ships possibly fill?
Given that CCP are planning an ORE frig, one might conjecture an ORE frig Also stealthy, speedy, ewar defended, armor tanky, ranged, t3/reconfigurable. In fact one could list all the things that make the combat ships diverse apart from the attack specialisations.... Did CCP post recently that 25% of people mine? As such a large profession its fantastically under represented in ships - but mainly its under represented in effort. I think they'd be better spending their time on the mining game mechanics to reduce the botability and boredom factors than making a dozen more barges - though a cloaky T3 indy/hybrid miner one would be fun. The ORE frigate is meant to replace the racial mining frigates that were repurposed due to tiericide.
And why do you need any of those? You can fit a cloak to a mining barge, asking for a covert ops cloak is just ridiculous. The Skiff/Procurer have gotten pretty speedy. There's literally no reason to use ECM on a mining barge, so there's no reason to have EWAR defense. There's no real reason to need separate barges for armor tanking. There's no need for configurable barges. The point is that mining barges sit in one spot and extract ore. That's all they have to do. There's not really many different roles that would accomplish the exact same thing.
You want your tanky exhumer? Use a Skiff. Want cargo? Use a Mack. Want yield above all else? Use a Hulk. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:The Skiff/Procurer have gotten pretty speedy. Procurers are not speedy. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
656
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:25:00 -
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Hypercake Mix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:The Skiff/Procurer have gotten pretty speedy. Procurers are not speedy. 250 m/s for a mining barge isn't half bad. Of course most miner scrubs probably don't have Navigation V, but that's hardly CCP's fault, is it? http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:250 m/s for a mining barge isn't half bad. Of course most miner scrubs probably don't have Navigation V, but that's hardly CCP's fault, is it? Skiff's base speed is 200m/s. Procurer's is 90m/s. It's like, the #1 reason I fly Skiff over the other barges. |
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
656
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Posted - 2012.09.10 22:38:00 -
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Ah, that's what I get for assuming the Proc had the same base speed as the Skiff. To be honest I think slower barges are better, so that you can mine webbed + aligned at 75% speed and you'll be in range of the roids for a really long time. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Hypercake Mix
Magical Rainbow Bakery
42
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:04:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ah, that's what I get for assuming the Proc had the same base speed as the Skiff. To be honest I think slower barges are better, so that you can mine webbed + aligned at 75% speed and you'll be in range of the roids for a really long time. It strangely kept its base speed from when it was a Mercoxit ship and can effectively fit and use an AB because of that... well, effectively ignoring the bad things about mining at 650m/s. |
Ronzz Mikakka
Sonic Intoxication Flappy Chickens With Teeth
0
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Posted - 2012.09.10 23:58:00 -
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If a miner is smart he would tank fit his Hulk and haul with his alt. |
Pipa Porto
891
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Posted - 2012.09.11 00:39:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Link one major fleet fight battle report with Shield Abaddons or stop lying. Goons use Drake blobs nowadays... If you gankers want me to use Skiffs instead of Macks, could you guys be so nice and give 4 of those.
Are you now claiming that the Drake and the Abaddon are the same ship? Because you claimed to be seeing Shield Abaddons and when called on it, you respond with "people fly shield Drakes."
The words don't even look similar. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1301
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:07:00 -
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Ronzz Mikakka wrote:If a miner is smart he would tank fit his Hulk and haul with his alt. Not entirely.
2 Macks will easily out mine a Hulk and a hauler and be safer.
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stoicfaux
1562
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Posted - 2012.09.11 01:09:00 -
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Hypercake Mix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:250 m/s for a mining barge isn't half bad. Of course most miner scrubs probably don't have Navigation V, but that's hardly CCP's fault, is it? Skiff's base speed is 200m/s. Procurer's is 90m/s. It's like, the #1 reason I fly Skiff over the other barges. Interesting.
So, how effective is speed tanking in the context of suicide ganking? Where speed tanking = drop a jet can and orbit it while mining.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Qorvis Communications
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:07:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Hypercake Mix wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:250 m/s for a mining barge isn't half bad. Of course most miner scrubs probably don't have Navigation V, but that's hardly CCP's fault, is it? Skiff's base speed is 200m/s. Procurer's is 90m/s. It's like, the #1 reason I fly Skiff over the other barges. Interesting. So, how effective is speed tanking in the context of suicide ganking? Where speed tanking = drop a jet can and orbit it while mining. wouldn't the firing ship's position be relative? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:15:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Are you now claiming that the Drake and the Abaddon are the same ship? Because you claimed to be seeing Shield Abaddons and when called on it, you respond with "people fly shield Drakes."
The words don't even look similar.
They fly only Drakes now because Drakes are just better ships. It's as simple as that. |
Pipa Porto
892
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Posted - 2012.09.11 04:19:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Are you now claiming that the Drake and the Abaddon are the same ship? Because you claimed to be seeing Shield Abaddons and when called on it, you respond with "people fly shield Drakes."
The words don't even look similar. They fly only Drakes now because Drakes are just better ships. It's as simple as that.
So where is the battle report with Shield Abaddons?
You claimed, quite specifically:
Jorma Morkkis wrote:I've seen many Abaddons with shield buffer.
So why is it so hard to show us where you saw them? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
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