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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1731
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:28:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy...
Miners vs. Gankers. That's all we have left. I find that sad. I feel dirty having even posted the amount of times I have in this thread. I am going to wash now.
Quoting myself:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: This whole thread is created by bads who want to keep effortlessy farming other bads who are even worse.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
379
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:34:00 -
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James Amril-kesh has suggested that the game would be better for us all if, 'the puny ones' leave the game.
I disagree, Eve would just not be the same without gankers. You want fries with that? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
443
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Posted - 2012.07.28 19:59:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:James Amril-kesh has suggested that the game would be better for us all if, 'the puny ones' leave the game.
I disagree, Eve would just not be the same without gankers. They're a necessary evil. I was of couse referring to the miners with a sense of entitlement, however. EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1573
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:02:00 -
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Jihaddists can suck it. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
443
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:05:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy... You have a very selective memory... EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Pipa Porto
554
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:06:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy...
Miners vs. Gankers. That's all we have left. I find that sad. I feel dirty having even posted the amount of times I have in this thread. I am going to wash now.
If you are disappointed with the stories coming from 0.0, you're free to go there and make better ones. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:18:00 -
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La Nariz wrote: Low effort argument gets a low effort return.
ditto |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
549
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:33:00 -
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Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy...
Miners vs. Gankers. That's all we have left. I find that sad. I feel dirty having even posted the amount of times I have in this thread. I am going to wash now.
No, no, no.
Turn that around:
Those days are gone because no-one cares anymore, and the reason for that is 100% legit:
See, real adults don't take a freakin' video-game that seriously, plus they generally have little use for lame-ass e-drama that informs this.
Zerosec is a semi-consensual battleground full of no-life douchebags with monumentally overblown egos. The real sandbox is in empire-space hisec, in large part because of the false sense of security of many of its denizens.
And because sui-ganking is funny as Hell, too.
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
549
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:38:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Jihaddists can suck it.
X:
ArtyToro, or BlapTos.
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
stoicfaux
1334
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:40:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Richard Desturned wrote: those who unsub because they can't stand getting ~griefed~ will unsub for some other reason
this game is not for everyone
Right. And when CCP tallies the votes (aka subs,) who do you think has a bigger voice? The high-sec gankers? Or the high-sec miners? I think it's pretty obvious that CCP values the miners' concerns over the high-sec gankers' concerns. The real question is: will the high-sec gankers unsub over the mining ship changes? Because, you know, this game isn't for everyone. The HS gankers include a large portion of low sec folks, null sec folks, and HS folks. Remember, a lot of gankers are alts. But that would imply that the only Fun thing left to do in Eve is ganking high-sec miners. Which is a heck of an accusation to level at CCP/Eve.
If we're really at the point where most people find high-sec miner ganking (i.e. in-game bullying) to be the main point of fun in the game, then Eve really is dying, and after the Aug 8th mining ship buff, we'll see massive unsubs.
/not_holding_my_breath
However, when Planetside 2 goes live, I do expect a lot of the casual PvP crowd to leave in droves.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
443
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:40:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy...
Miners vs. Gankers. That's all we have left. I find that sad. I feel dirty having even posted the amount of times I have in this thread. I am going to wash now. No, no, no. Turn that around: Those days are gone because no-one cares anymore, and the reason for that is 100% legit: See, real adults don't take a freakin' video-game that seriously, plus they generally have little use for lame-ass e-drama that informs this. Zerosec is a semi-consensual battleground full of no-life douchebags with monumentally overblown egos. The real sandbox is in empire-space hisec, in large part because of the false sense of security of many of its denizens. Know how I can tell you've never been there? EVE's 4th of July Fireworks |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1459
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:42:00 -
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Fit a 100k EHP tank skiff on test server tbh I preferred the mercoxit bonus |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1731
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:54:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Fit a 100k EHP tank skiff on test server tbh I preferred the mercoxit bonus
Think they'll put a rig for that. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Pipa Porto
555
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:55:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Fit a 100k EHP tank skiff on test server tbh I preferred the mercoxit bonus
There's a Rig for that. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
305
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Posted - 2012.07.28 20:55:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Fit a 100k EHP tank skiff on test server tbh I preferred the mercoxit bonus Think they'll put a rig for that.
there is a rig for that on sisi. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Komen
Capital Enrichment Services The Night Crew Alliance
123
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:07:00 -
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I started reading this thread, and I got that it SEEMS to be that ganking miners won't be profitable because it'll take too many gankers to accomplish now.
Which leaves gankers a couple options: Gank for fun, and screw the profit, or move on to other pastures in search of profitable PvP. I wish you all the best with whichever path you choose. And remember, in Eve, you must adapt or die. Unless you're a miner, I guess.
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stoicfaux
1335
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:10:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote: the only way to adapt this game for the crowd in question is to completely throw away everything that keeps the people who actually love this game subscribed
Interesting point of view. My only concern is that when someone decides to be the unilateral arbiter of Who Is and Isn't Worthy, bad things tend to follow.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1555
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:22:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Zagdul wrote:Gone are the days where EVE is a dangerous place. I seem to have missed the part when they made all player ships immune to damage. That won't happen as long as I'm around, btw. Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable, it's meant to be an option that let's you punish someone else at your expense. The money you paid for a ship to gank with compared to the money lost by your target was completely off and this change should bring that to a better spot. That said, the numbers can still be adjusted. So when are you fixing war decs so suicide ganking isn't the only viable kind of sandbox PvP in high sec?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
305
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:26:00 -
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neeever mind, totally misread that. Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1459
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Posted - 2012.07.28 21:51:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:[quote=Tyberius Franklin]That won't happen as long as I'm around, btw.
Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable, it's meant to be an option that let's you punish someone else at your expense. The money you paid for a ship to gank with compared to the money lost by your target was completely off and this change should bring that to a better spot. That said, the numbers can still be adjusted. So when are you fixing war decs so suicide ganking isn't the only viable kind of sandbox PvP in high sec? This is a good question |
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
550
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Posted - 2012.07.28 22:09:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Drone 16 wrote:Gone are the days in Eve where 0.0 strife (BoB v. Goons, the Drone Wars etc etc) drove the game...have we fallen so low that all we have to discuss are the 2 professions that were once considered beneath contempt and not thread-worthy...
Miners vs. Gankers. That's all we have left. I find that sad. I feel dirty having even posted the amount of times I have in this thread. I am going to wash now. No, no, no. Turn that around: Those days are gone because no-one cares anymore, and the reason for that is 100% legit: See, real adults don't take a freakin' video-game that seriously, plus they generally have little use for lame-ass e-drama that informs this. Zerosec is a semi-consensual battleground full of no-life douchebags with monumentally overblown egos. The real sandbox is in empire-space hisec, in large part because of the false sense of security of many of its denizens. Know how I can tell you've never been there?
I have, just not on this character.
Under the ageis of one of your...errmm..."BFFs" as it happens. (Ook, ook!)
It had its moments (Lucian James is/was an absolute scream on voice-comms ), to be sure, but:
It was, overall, the most grating, un-fun, un-rewarding experience I'd ever had in this game, and one I was damned glad to see disappearing in my rear-view.
Next!
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1129
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Posted - 2012.07.28 22:42:00 -
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We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
551
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Posted - 2012.07.28 22:57:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore.
I was hoping for three-figure page count, but yeah.
It would seem that this thread has run its course.
In before lock, HA-HA!!
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
83
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Posted - 2012.07.28 23:12:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore. I was hoping for three-figure page count, but yeah. It would seem that this thread has run its course. In before lock, HA-HA!!
So who won? |
Russell Casey
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2012.07.28 23:31:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore. I was hoping for three-figure page count, but yeah. It would seem that this thread has run its course. In before lock, HA-HA!!
Ten pages left....EVERYBODY POST ON YOUR ALTS! |
stoicfaux
1336
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Posted - 2012.07.28 23:36:00 -
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Danks wrote:Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore. I was hoping for three-figure page count, but yeah. It would seem that this thread has run its course. In before lock, HA-HA!! So who won? Everyone in this thread, because...
The people who aren't aware of the patch notes/dev blogs will rage-post on the 8th about how the patch introduced a bug that reduced their Mack's ice mining bonus from 100% to 1%.
The shiptoasting will be epic that day.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
551
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Posted - 2012.07.29 00:00:00 -
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Danks wrote:Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:We are still raging about the mining ship changes right?
I'm not sure anymore. I was hoping for three-figure page count, but yeah. It would seem that this thread has run its course. In before lock, HA-HA!! So who won?
I won:
Because of Falcon Cyno-bait Procurer!
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
121
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Posted - 2012.07.29 00:06:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote: MMOs reflect the real world in many wicked ways. One of them is the kind of player playing it....
I must apologise for my words earlier. I blame my speed reading of this threadnought. This was a top notch post. |
Pipa Porto
558
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Posted - 2012.07.29 01:28:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Fit a 100k EHP tank skiff on test server tbh I preferred the mercoxit bonus Think they'll put a rig for that. there is a rig for that on sisi.
All the Mercx Miners (All the Mercx Miners) All the Mercx Miners (All the Mercx Miners) All the Mercx Miners (All the Mercx Miners) All the Mercx Miners Now turn your strips up up
Up in the belt, we just locked up I'm mining my own little thing You decided to dip but now you wanna trip Cause another miner noticed me I'm up on him, he up on me don't pay him any attention Cause I cried my tears, for three good years Ya can't be mad at me
Cause if you liked it then you should have put a Rig on it If you liked it then you should've put a Rig on it Don't be mad once you see that he want it If you liked it then you should've put a Rig on it EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
baltec1
Bat Country
1729
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Posted - 2012.07.29 01:52:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:I have, just not on this character. Under the ageis of one of your...errmm..."BFFs" as it happens. (Ook, ook!) It had its moments (Lucian James is/was an absolute scream on voice-comms ), to be sure, but: It was, overall, the most grating, un-fun, un-rewarding experience I'd ever had in this game, and one I was damned glad to see disappearing in my rear-view. Next! E: Come on, everybody, 100 pages! You know you can do it!
Sounds like the NC alright. |
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