wow, the bottom line, now featuring a cellar

The bottom line is that black unemployment is a lot lower, then your unemployment.

that's how alpha works, hope this helps

Except for the combat implications, I wouldn't care if all mining barges had unlimited lock ranges and could motor around at 100km/s.

The reason there aren't variety is that 99% of miners will either pick a Tanky Mining ship, a Convenient Mining ship, or a high Yield Mining ship because there's no rational reason to care about any other stat. There's no reason to bother spending a huge amount of Dev and Art team time on ships that nobody's going to use.

The bad thing is that variety takes an enormous amount of Dev and Art Dept time.

If you want something other than the 6 mining barges, you've got plenty of choices. You can mine in any ship that can fit drones or has a turret slot. Since you don't care about Yield, they'll all work great and that gives you an enormous amount of variety.

^ How would he get robbed though? Black people don't live or travel to the outskirts of a town.

orca bonuses give you extra strip miner range

please don't put words in my mouth

Thank you for your patience - ISD Type40.

But I like strip miners :( so choices are rather limited.

Thanks very much for your patience in cleaning and scrubbing the thread repeatedly.

2. Shouldn't Hulk be given 3 times more space for crystals than the Skiff, since it has 3 times more strip miners? Or at least twice as much?

Thanks very much for your patience in cleaning and scrubbing the thread repeatedly.

The Skiff's designed to be somewhat self sufficient. The Hulk is designed to rely on other ships to allow it to focus solely on mining yield.

Compare RL mining equipment. The biggest equipment, capable of shoveling vast amount of Ore can't actually do anything under their own power. They have to be hooked up to an electrical grid, they need a fleet of Dump trucks to keep up with their output, they need constant maintenance, they have to be disassembled to move any sort of distance, they're generally an incredible pain to set up, but they compensate by moving more earth than any other machine.

Smaller equipment is much less reliant on other equipment, but doesn't move as much earth.

I think they need to bring the tank of the Exhumers up a few more notches. We still don't know what the Destroyer rebalancing and beyond will bring.

I think they need to bring the tank of the Exhumers up a few more notches. We still don't know what the Destroyer rebalancing and beyond will bring.

This sure sounds like troll to me...however, I will bite. What destroyer rebalancing are you referring to? I haven't heard of anything to change what was done not too long ago.

The more I think on things, the more I would like to see being able to buff exhumers by choice as opposed to such a huge jump on the inherent tanks. They did need some improving for sure, (excluding Hulk) but doing too much of it for the miners is not right. Give them the good base that a nice solid ship should have (it should be strong and bulky by nature, able to stand up to a fair bit of damage by sheer bulk) but nothing too extreme. Then perhaps give them special bonuses for PowerGrid and/or CPU bonus when using specific types of modules, much as the latest BCs have it with their BS sized guns. So a miner can choose between maximum yield or that great tank...or a nice balance.

The whole Tiericide thing? They're going up from Frigates and slowly making every ship worth flying? The thing where they're thinking of splitting Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills into separate racial skills? The possibility of having more T1 Destroyers exist in the future?

The whole Tiericide thing? They're going up from Frigates and slowly making every ship worth flying? The thing where they're thinking of splitting Destroyers and Battlecruisers skills into separate racial skills? The possibility of having more T1 Destroyers exist in the future?

The Skiff can put up some 80k EHP with MLUs.

Assuming no fleet boost and overheating. No, it can't with T1 shield resists profile.

Assuming no fleet boost and overheating. No, it can't with T1 shield resists profile.

Ah that skill split off. Don't see that specifically as causing buff nor nerf. Possibility of future destroyers happening? Well, that's the same as saying they are thinking of coming up with more exhumers. No details = no worries. If they were saying "we're looking at another destroyer designed around using medium sized guns - perfect for high alphas" then I would be worried. As it is now, there is too little information to worry about or to allow one to begin designing some sort of 'ship design response' to deal with this perceived threat.

highsec mining is low reward, imo it deserves to be low risk. I feel like a small fitting increase and/or slight EHP buff would do, imo it is just silly that a hulk can die to a solo destroyer. okay okay tbh I don't really have much pity for people that don't train any core skills and fit 2 expanders and 2 cargo optimizers. but I just don't buy that the only viable highsec mining fit is nothing but buffer/fitting mods.

and yes a t3 with no tank (and/or gaping resist hole) can die to 1-2 tornado volleys rather easily, but their options for tanking are so much greater than on a hulk.

okay okay tbh I don't really have much pity for people that don't train any core skills and fit 2 expanders and 2 cargo optimizers.