However, while we looked at them it quickly became apparent that they were just too fragile as a whole. A properly fit Tornado delivers a volley of at least 9000 damage, which was far enough to destroy an untanked Hulk before it could react.

GÇ£Is CCP trying to save stupid pigs from themselves?GÇ¥ We are attempting to give the pigs in question a chance to react and chose a path other that the one leading to the slaughterhouse. It doesnGÇÖt change the fact the slaughterhouse still exists, that there still a path to it, and that this path is very easy to fall into, even after the changes.

A properly fit Tornado delivers a volley of at least 9000 damage, which was far enough to destroy an untanked Hulk before it could react.

Oh wait, that's not going to help the piglets to suckle now is it? That's not going to bring any soft hearted NeX store customers into the game. NO CAN DO. +1 protection all day err day. Soon we will have gold ammo back once the whole customer base wants it.

What's the problem?

What's the problem?

CCP answer his question, this piggy can't do it.

that bit, i'd imagine.

that's how alpha works, hope this helps

sure it's how it works, obviously ccp aren't happy with that.

that's how alpha works, hope this helps

getting blown up and podded before you can react is something that does not just happen to miners

the hulk miner also has the option of reacting by seeing a tornado landing and getting out of there - of course, he's AFK and sitting still, but if they're really accounting for bad choices, well, 'heh'

Yeah the isk stuff, True a Hulk mines more then a destoyer, so its fair for the destroyer to blow it up. But effort then (like you goons like) to build and have a hulk, takes alot more effort, then to build and have then whatever ship you talk about.

perhaps not so valid when we're talking about nados but i'm almost sure a destroyer can land on grid and bump a miner before they're aligned?

Let me tell you about Orca bonuses and being aligned (i.e. moving)

Who ever said this game was supposed to be fair?

You work for what you have in this game, just like in life, and anybody can come by and ruin it all, just like in life.

implying you must be in a fleet or you deserve to be ganked?

So you do support this patch then? With how this buff makes it unfair to you? And how this patch ruins all you worked for? Maybe we should change the mascot for this patch from pigs, to you.

implying you must be in a fleet or you deserve to be ganked?

You work for what you have in this game, just like in life, and anybody can come by and ruin it all, just like in life.

I haven't ganked miners since the interdiction but I don't believe that they should be given the ability to AFK mine without worries because anything that sneezes at them will be nerfed.

You ugh.. you're um, blending a reality with a non-reality. You probably shouldn't be doing that.

Because, once again, this has proven how dangerous it is to jump to conclusions from a work-in-progress Singularity build; Mining Barges and Exhumer numbers are still being adjusted as we speak. EHP, cargohold, ore bay values are still up in the air. .

You ugh.. you're um, blending a reality with a non-reality. You probably shouldn't be doing that.

Besides, in "real life", most places have sec status too. You know, it tends to separate the pissholes from the productive environments.

- "Should I rob my neighbor's house, and deal with the concordokken that soon follows?"
- "My neighbor could be armed, and might shoot me without fear of concordokken, when I get flagged for can-flipping his house."
- "I could get a machine gun that volleys over 9000dps, but people in certain houses might see that as unfair."
- Not everyone likes live in a Renter Alliance country, and other countries might take offense to their breached sovereignty.

(Also, obligatory mention that people complaining about barge changes - spend more time posting about mining than the amount of time the majority of players actually mine.)

^ How would he get robbed though? Black people don't live or travel to the outskirts of a town. Mostly likely it might be someone he knows or trusts. Suppose the only foolish thing he did, was grow close to people.

^ How would he get robbed though? Black people don't live or travel to the outskirts of a town. Mostly likely it might be someone he knows or trusts. Suppose the only foolish thing he did, was grow close to people.

EDIT: or drink coffee