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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.03.09 12:43:00 -
[31]
UNHOLY RAGE II
It is time for it |
Janis Ezra
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Posted - 2011.03.09 12:51:00 -
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I think this thread wont live long.
a) namecalling
b) CCP dont care
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knobber Jobbler
Executive Intervention
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:11:00 -
[33]
I'm quite curious to know what ccp are going to do about this. the embarrisment is mounting!
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:17:00 -
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 Originally by: verybad Girl
hey Icarantus
your totally screwed now *lol*
  
i mean bloddy hell spening roughly 7k bucks on eve isk wtf is wrong with you man
How else do you think he funds his .blink habit?
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Dr Neba
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:22:00 -
[35]
Can I have all of your stuff's
no ..... hang on ..... bad idea lol |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:23:00 -
[36]
In before the lock.
At least we get to the beta test the Twilight MMO as EVE Online gets packed with more and more bots.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Thorleifer
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:25:00 -
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did you guys see some of the totals 1 person made purchases of $4172.74 and $2615.20.....that is insane
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Nina Mercedez
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Janis Ezra
I think this thread wont live long.
a) namecalling
b) CCP dont care
It's inevitable, I guess.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190
At least we get to the beta test the Twilight MMO
No we don't.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:35:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Patient 2428190
At least we get to the beta test the Twilight MMO
No we don't.
I almost believe you.
After all, Incarana is going to be packed to the brim with great features, game content busted out of the seams. The last 5 years have been a constant information stream from CCP talking about all the great things we will be doing, all the beautiful crafted content lovingly made just for EVE Online customers.
Oh wait, its a graphics engine that is completely unrelated to anything EVE has been for the past decade.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
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Darth McDarth
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:37:00 -
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In on second page of threadnaught.
I approve of this one, it doesn't have Feed instead of fed in the title 
Anyway, very interested in seeing the repercussions and damage control that are going to come from this.
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:37:00 -
[42]
CCP needs to verify the transactions, and then ban them all. CCP should be thanking evenews24, they're making the job much easier.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/03/2011 13:39:52
Originally by: Patient 2428190
Oh wait, its a graphics engine that is completely unrelated to anything EVE has been for the past decade.
You're missing the point.
We're not beta-testing a Twilight MMO. We're beta-testing WoD.
WoD is to Twilight what EVE is in relation to the Star Wars Chrismas Special.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Kylira Ulfrinn
Blackstaff Logistics
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:42:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Patient 2428190
I almost believe you.
After all, Incarana is going to be packed to the brim with great features, game content busted out of the seams. The last 5 years have been a constant information stream from CCP talking about all the great things we will be doing, all the beautiful crafted content lovingly made just for EVE Online customers.
Oh wait, its a graphics engine that is completely unrelated to anything EVE has been for the past decade.
I am now convinced that you are incapable of making a post in which you do not cry about Incarna. That's all I ever see from you.
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Mister Rocknrolla
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:42:00 -
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What about the issue of the reliability of the "evidence?"
At any point in the chain of custody names could have been added or removed to/from the db, so how can CCP be expected to enact any enforcement based on it? Are they supposed to go through name-by-name and check each wallet? Only punish "major" offenders? That hardly seems fair?
Very eye-opening, but not really actionable on it's face. Hopefully it works to enlighten CCP and players and maybe discourage people from patronizing such sites.
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Callum545
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:48:00 -
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in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex $4,172.74
KiaDuplex $2,615.20
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:48:00 -
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havent you learned by now CCP are not interested. They generate a substantial income from stuff like this also..and hes true it will change nothing.
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Juil
Gallente
Phoenix Industries Pty. Ltd.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 09/03/2011 13:39:52
Originally by: Patient 2428190
Oh wait, its a graphics engine that is completely unrelated to anything EVE has been for the past decade.
You're missing the point.
We're not beta-testing a Twilight MMO. We're beta-testing WoD.
WoD is to Twilight what EVE is in relation to the Star Wars Chrismas Special.
Yeap WOD is Vampire, Mage, Werewolf (and depending if it's nWoD or oWoD, Hunter, Changling, wraith, mummy etc etc) WoD had more incommon with a certain sony movie *cough*underworld*cough* then with Twilight.
And honestly who cares if parts of incarna will be used for wod? I mean it's an engine made for doing that stuff just because it is being used on more then one game don't mean much otherwise unreal would be in trouble.
The big one HERE is the RMT'n what that has to do with Incarna has me beat go bash it else where.
- Juil
Intergrated Information Services
Information is Power
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:52:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 09/03/2011 13:39:52
Originally by: Patient 2428190
Oh wait, its a graphics engine that is completely unrelated to anything EVE has been for the past decade.
You're missing the point.
We're not beta-testing a Twilight MMO. We're beta-testing WoD.
WoD is to Twilight what EVE is in relation to the Star Wars Chrismas Special.
WoD = A terrible, cliche , unoriginal Pen and Paper game created for teenage nerds about vampires and werewolves.
Twilight = A terrible, cliche , unoriginal romance novel created for teenage girls about vampires and werewolves.
Innovation and vampires go together as well as fire and paper.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Callum545
in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex $4,172.74
KiaDuplex $2,615.20
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
TBH I don't see why CCP doesn't just make their isk competatively priced.
I have no problem with people spending their rl money on mmos. Seriously don't care. I'm not 'competing' with people who buy isk. Not now, not ever. So what's the big deal, seriously? All I see is that is 8k CCP didn't get and another excuse not to invest more cash in improving this game etc.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla
What about the issue of the reliability of the "evidence?"
At any point in the chain of custody names could have been added or removed to/from the db, so how can CCP be expected to enact any enforcement based on it? Are they supposed to go through name-by-name and check each wallet? Only punish "major" offenders? That hardly seems fair?
Very eye-opening, but not really actionable on it's face. Hopefully it works to enlighten CCP and players and maybe discourage people from patronizing such sites.
No one expects CCP to walk in and ban them all (hell half are alts and first the main needs to be found).Most people probably dont expect CCP to do anything at all. But anyway we hope CCP uses this info to check all people on this list, it is a great starting point for investigation, few hunderd accounts are easier to check than few hunderd thousand.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/03/2011 13:58:00
Originally by: Patient 2428190
WoD = A terrible, cliche , unoriginal Pen and Paper game created for teenage nerds about vampires and werewolves.
Not quite.
àmaybe you just had a bad ST.
Quote:
Innovation and vampires go together as well as fire and paper.
Surprising how well the two were combined in WoD then.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:07:00 -
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TBH I don't see why CCP doesn't just make their isk competatively priced.
I have no problem with people spending their rl money on mmos. Seriously don't care. I'm not 'competing' with people who buy isk. Not now, not ever. So what's the big deal, seriously? All I see is that is 8k CCP didn't get and another excuse not to invest more cash in improving this game etc.
Isk exchange rates are set by the market, it's a player controlled trade. The black market will always undercut the legitimate price. Even if it's incredibly low it'll just end up being chinese sweat shops supplying the isk like other MMOs.
"I'm not 'competing' with people who buy isk. Not now, not ever. So what's the big deal, seriously?"
I see bots screwing up the economy, people competing unfairly, and losses that don't matter.
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Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 09/03/2011 14:13:01
Originally by: mechtech
TBH I don't see why CCP doesn't just make their isk competatively priced.
I have no problem with people spending their rl money on mmos. Seriously don't care. I'm not 'competing' with people who buy isk. Not now, not ever. So what's the big deal, seriously? All I see is that is 8k CCP didn't get and another excuse not to invest more cash in improving this game etc.
Isk exchange rates are set by the market, it's a player controlled trade. The black market will always undercut the legitimate price. Even if it's incredibly low it'll just end up being chinese sweat shops supplying the isk like other MMOs.
"I'm not 'competing' with people who buy isk. Not now, not ever. So what's the big deal, seriously?"
I see bots screwing up the economy, people competing unfairly, and losses that don't matter.
Whilst I can't argue with your projection there, I can't actually see how the last part, about screwed up economy, unfair competition (or lack of) and losses that don't matter isn't already the case for certain null entities. I also think a deflated isk would probably create more conflict and more speculation among those who aren't currently paying off their mortgage with moon goo RMT. But then I am obviously not a deep thinker when it comes to this stuff.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 14:20:28
Just make sure that your own names are not on that list in case you have nothing to do with RMTs as it may well be a forged list.
CCP will not do anything about it should the list be real, because it is not one of their logs and even if CCP can match IP addresses with character names may these have come from another source for such a forgery. Unless CCP can look into the bank accounts and see the real money transfer then really anyone can come up with such a list.
What is more worrying, and likely more interesting for CCP, is the scale all this anti-RMT movement is taking on. It is creating more and more bad press for the game one way or the other.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:41:00 -
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CCP's not gonna do anything about it because someone at CCP is probably involved in it.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Juil
And honestly who cares if parts of incarna will be used for wod? I mean it's an engine made for doing that stuff just because it is being used on more then one game don't mean much otherwise unreal would be in trouble.
The big one HERE is the RMT'n what that has to do with Incarna has me beat go bash it else where.
They may go and do a giant purge to shut up the RAHRAH ban the bots crowd, but they certainly won't invest much time in fixing any of the core gameplay or game mechanics that allow for RMT/botting in the first place. They can't beat it, they won't even try. The first Unholy Rage was just a mass ban and bunch of PR (complete with feel good dev blogs and graphs) to quiet down the issue. But, surprise surprise.. look at the situation we are in right now.
The way EVE is set up, ISK is absolutely everything and you can farm it in any countless number of ways. You can get literally everything from ships, implants, modules, characters and even gametime for ISK. There will always be bots, there will always be RMT and it will be that way until the day TQ closes.
For their anti-RMT taskforce, EVE Online is a lost cause as long as ISK still has the power it does. The best the company could hope for is that their next game has elements in it that aren't as conducive to RMT. So, pray they learned their lessons for WoD/Twilight/Underworld Online.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 09/03/2011 14:50:02
Edited by: Furb Killer on 09/03/2011 14:48:06
RMT'ing might not affect you, it affects me and the vast majority of the player base. If i am happily flying in my than and getting hotdropped by a supercarrier bought using RMT (or their own bots), how would it not affect me?
@Whitehound, so now the issue is not RMT but the issue is that people complain about cheating? Really? You got issues.
Also as mentioned previously for the mentally challenged, no one expects CCP to ban all those people, not in the least because majority are alts. What we do expect is CCP to start from this list and check for strange transactions.
Because I resally like to know how you kow it is not in their logs. Hint: Logs do not say "This persons RMTs" , and CCP cant manually check every transaction, they can manually check every transaction of every account that was made arround the time they bought isk according to that list.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 09/03/2011 14:52:04
Originally by: Whitehound
What is more worrying encouraging, and likely more interesting for CCP, is the scale all this anti-RMT movement is taking on.
Fix'd.
Cheaters need to die.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.09 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: verybad Girl
i mean bloddy hell spening roughly 7k bucks on eve isk wtf is wrong with you man
I imagine there are many irl well to do or rich players who wouldn't blink an eye at spending 2~7k on a game. Not saying its right or fair but it certainly explains why its so popular given that isk is the only real thing you have to grind for in the game to do the things you want.
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Patient 2428190
WoD = A terrible, cliche , unoriginal Pen and Paper game created for teenage nerds about vampires and werewolves.
Not quite.
àmaybe you just had a bad ST.
Quote:
Innovation and vampires go together as well as fire and paper.
Surprising how well the two were combined in WoD then.
Nerd rage best rage imho.
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local
[19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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