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Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa First, I am not quite sure what happened.
Second, if it is that iskbank was an isk seller engaged in RMT, how did they get the word out they sold isk?
Very confusing.
As if you of all people don't know 
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:13:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa First, I am not quite sure what happened.
Second, if it is that iskbank was an isk seller engaged in RMT, how did they get the word out they sold isk?
Very confusing.
As if you of all people don't know 
I don't. Eve "banks" are not something I follow.
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Mark It Zero
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:15:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Azirapheal Icarantus$354.92 Icarantus$354.92 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$338.06 Icarantus$316.07 Icarantus$283.94 Icarantus$243.21 Icarantus$211.56 Icarantus$186.80 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$179.33 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$173.72 Icarantus$128.14 Icarantus$112.08 Icarantus$99.38 Icarantus$94.82 Icarantus$60.34
wow, just wow.
Have you played Somer.blink? It is horribly addictive.
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:16:00 -
[214]
Edited by: Avon on 09/03/2011 20:15:48
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I don't. Eve "banks" are not something I follow.
Your sig is 202 bytes oversized. Just sayin' so you can fix it and stuff.
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Lubomir Penev
Sausages of Truth S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: ivar R'dhak I¦m not getting how everybody is so amused by this.
Reading about RMTa and CCP¦s lackluster response(1 day bans, seriously CCP?) saps my will to log into this game and invest any more of my lifetime gaining meager amounts of isk to actually get something done. 
Look at that cute noob that think CCP ever had a backbone. There are no macrominers in EVE |

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 09/03/2011 20:20:23
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 09/03/2011 20:15:48
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
I don't. Eve "banks" are not something I follow.
Your sig is 202 bytes oversized. Just sayin' so you can fix it and stuff.
Edit: on disk it shows 23.63 KB. That's under the legal limit.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1 They have their credit cards and other personal info that they are not going to be giving out to the public. Sorry but that is far too much evidence to just say "gotta be fake". You do sound like you are deperatly trying to cast some mist over this.
Where did you read that EveNews24 have the credit card information, too? EveNews24 created some nice looking pictures of bills, but they are good with artwork at EveNews24. Not to mention the publicity it gives them ...  --
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:22:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 09/03/2011 20:15:48
Your sig is 202 bytes oversized. Just sayin' so you can fix it and stuff.
Actually, it's 374 bytes under the limit. Just sayin' so you can understand math and stuff.
Originally by: Forum rules
Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not Kbytes)
Your sig is 24202 bytes
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
You are one of the biggest scumbags in EvE without question, for you to be dissapointed about it says a lot.
scumbag? Yes, then again, I do try. Which is more than I can say afor CCPs anti RMT efforts at this juncture.
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:25:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: baltec1 They have their credit cards and other personal info that they are not going to be giving out to the public. Sorry but that is far too much evidence to just say "gotta be fake". You do sound like you are deperatly trying to cast some mist over this.
Where did you read that EveNews24 have the credit card information, too? EveNews24 created some nice looking pictures of bills, but they are good with artwork at EveNews24. Not to mention the publicity it gives them ... 
Oh dear, who should we believe?
Your speculation is no more valid than theirs.
You sure do seem very keen on discrediting this whole thing though.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 09/03/2011 20:15:48
Your sig is 202 bytes oversized. Just sayin' so you can fix it and stuff.
Actually, it's 374 bytes under the limit. Just sayin' so you can understand math and stuff.
Originally by: Forum rules
Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not Kbytes)
Your sig is 24202 bytes
k. While I'm digging up the old PSD, maybe you could answer my question on the last page or I could report your posts for off-topic?
Man, it's great to be back on the forums.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion RONA Directorate
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:30:00 -
[222]
Where is Dark Shikari when you need him?
Or even Ginger Magician for that matter.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:30:00 -
[223]
Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 20:30:28
Originally by: Avon Your speculation is no more valid than theirs.
You sure do seem very keen on discrediting this whole thing though.
If I was you would I just keep an open mind.
And if you want my advise: never trust evidence that you did not find yourself.
I now have to leave. I need to slip an anonymous letter into my local police president's letter box. I think my neighbour is smoking pott. --
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Nina Mercedez
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:33:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Mark It Zero
Originally by: Azirapheal Icarantus$354.92 Icarantus$354.92 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$351.18 Icarantus$338.06 Icarantus$316.07 Icarantus$283.94 Icarantus$243.21 Icarantus$211.56 Icarantus$186.80 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$181.20 Icarantus$179.33 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$177.46 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$175.59 Icarantus$173.72 Icarantus$128.14 Icarantus$112.08 Icarantus$99.38 Icarantus$94.82 Icarantus$60.34
wow, just wow.
Have you played Somer.blink? It is horribly addictive horrible.
I lasted about a week. Then forgot about its existence.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas OK OK Firstly you have to stop calling these guys cheaters and scum yada yada.
No we don't. Mainly because they are ù unquestionably ù cheating scum.
They (both buyers and sellers) are breaking the game rules to get ahead. They cheat. In doing so, they ruin the game for everyone else. They're scum. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:36:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Nina Mercedez
Originally by: Mark It Zero
Have you played Somer.blink? It is horribly addictive horrible.
I lasted about a week. Then forgot about its existence.
This ^^
I won a stealth bomber and an assault ship, then looked at the money I spent and decided I could have just bought them on the market for slightly less than I spent if I really wanted them. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:38:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
k. While I'm digging up the old PSD, maybe you could answer my question on the last page or I could report your posts for off-topic?
Man, it's great to be back on the forums.
Bloody hell, I was just trying to let you know so you can fix it - if the forums had a PM feature I would have done it that way.
Chew me out for trying to help why don't ya?
Feel free to report me for the OT post if it makes you feel better.
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Liang Nuren
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:42:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Avon Bloody hell, I was just trying to let you know so you can fix it - if the forums had a PM feature I would have done it that way.
"Evemail"?
-Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter
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Avon
Caldari Versatech Co. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:48:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Avon Bloody hell, I was just trying to let you know so you can fix it - if the forums had a PM feature I would have done it that way.
"Evemail"?
-Liang
Wait, what? You think I actually play the game? I just pay to play the forums, and I am too stupid to do that whole Eve-gate thingmy bob.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:52:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: baltec1 They have their credit cards and other personal info that they are not going to be giving out to the public. Sorry but that is far too much evidence to just say "gotta be fake". You do sound like you are deperatly trying to cast some mist over this.
Where did you read that EveNews24 have the credit card information, too? EveNews24 created some nice looking pictures of bills, but they are good with artwork at EveNews24. Not to mention the publicity it gives them ... 
You're trying too hard. Way too hard. Is your heart pounding harder and harder in your chest with every passing beat? Do you feel the warm breath of CCP on the backs of the necks of the alts that do show up on the list? Oh no... can they trace your IP address through them? All that spent money is about to be vaporized, and you know there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, they're on to you now. Your days are numbers. All you have will be gone. You will be no more. Tha-thump tha-thump tha-thump... they're coming for you...
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Pham Lai
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:55:00 -
[231]
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Pham Lai
Anyway, I kinda few bad for these people if they ever get banned.
I don't. Cheating bastards should be banned for life.
Whats the different between buying isk with real money and buying PlEXthensellingPLEXforisk with real money? Both come to the same thing...use real money to achieve more isk. The only different is that RMT does not bring money to CCP.
These people simply make the wrong (deemed wrong by CCP) choice to buy isk from RMTer instead of buying PlEXthensellingPLEXforisk from CCP. Its CCP's game and they have the right to restrict RMT, it's wrong for the RMT seller to sell CCP's property for money, but it is not wrong for the buyer to choose to buy a better deal....
If you buy PLEX and sell them for isk, you do not have the right to call these people cheater.
Im not supporting RMT....
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Nina Mercedez
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Posted - 2011.03.09 20:56:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: baltec1 They have their credit cards and other personal info that they are not going to be giving out to the public. Sorry but that is far too much evidence to just say "gotta be fake". You do sound like you are deperatly trying to cast some mist over this.
Where did you read that EveNews24 have the credit card information, too? EveNews24 created some nice looking pictures of bills, but they are good with artwork at EveNews24. Not to mention the publicity it gives them ... 
You're trying too hard. Way too hard. Is your heart pounding harder and harder in your chest with every passing beat? Do you feel the warm breath of CCP on the backs of the necks of the alts that do show up on the list? Oh no... can they trace your IP address through them? All that spent money is about to be vaporized, and you know there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, they're on to you now. Your days are numbers. All you have will be gone. You will be no more. Tha-thump tha-thump tha-thump... they're coming for you...
That would be amusing.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pham Lai Whats the different between buying isk with real money and buying PlEXthensellingPLEXforisk with real money?
What's the difference between probing someone out and then shooting him with guns, and using a /travelto command and then a rapid-fire exploit?
One is legal. One is not. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Mikel Laurentson
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:02:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Ai Mei
Originally by: AkJon Ferguson
Originally by: sHERU I am pretty sure it will be more then plenty to fund a few devs to work on some nice features for World of Vampires and Space Barbies.
Hi, I keep forgetting that CCP Whitewolf has nothing to do with CCP EvE online and they get their own seperate funding from the Vampire the Masquerade books and other World of Darkness related sales.
Seriously why to people keep forgetting White Wolf is an independant entity. All they really did was just add CCP infront of their name. Also why are people so narrow minded to think CCP's only form of income is from eve online? DOES NO ONE remember pen and paper RPG's?
*goes down to the game store and points at a full book shelf of World of Darkness books and Vampire the Masquerade books with a clearly printed logo of CCP White Wolf.* That's where the funding for their Vampire MMO is coming from!
The combined profits from WW's lines would not pay for a DS game, let alone an MMO.
Sorry kid, but Even being #2 in the industry doesn't mean ****-all when the industry is RPGs. 
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Mikel Laurentson
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:06:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Pham Lai
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Pham Lai
Anyway, I kinda few bad for these people if they ever get banned.
I don't. Cheating bastards should be banned for life.
Whats the different between buying isk with real money and buying PlEXthensellingPLEXforisk with real money? Both come to the same thing...use real money to achieve more isk. The only different is that RMT does not bring money to CCP.
These people simply make the wrong (deemed wrong by CCP) choice to buy isk from RMTer instead of buying PlEXthensellingPLEXforisk from CCP. Its CCP's game and they have the right to restrict RMT, it's wrong for the RMT seller to sell CCP's property for money, but it is not wrong for the buyer to choose to buy a better deal....
If you buy PLEX and sell them for isk, you do not have the right to call these people cheater.
Im not supporting RMT....
One of them gives money to the folk who feed the hamsters and paint your ships, the other does not.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ingvar Angst You're trying too hard. Way too hard. Is your heart pounding harder and harder in your chest with every passing beat? Do you feel the warm breath of CCP on the backs of the necks of the alts that do show up on the list? Oh no... can they trace your IP address through them? All that spent money is about to be vaporized, and you know there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, they're on to you now. Your days are numbers. All you have will be gone. You will be no more. Tha-thump tha-thump tha-thump... they're coming for you...
I think that the argument about the list containing credit card numbers is made made up. People who read the EveNews24 article are starting to see what is not there. I went back to EveNews24 and read through the article, but I did not see any mentioning of credit card information.
If they had each player's credit card information, too, then it still would not be proof of a real money transfer, but it can be considered a "grim indicator" and an important link in the evidence chain, because one cannot get such information easily. --
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound If they had each player's credit card information, too, then it still would not be proof of a real money transfer, but it can be considered a "grim indicator" and an important link in the evidence chain, because one cannot get such information easily.
àof course, none of that matters since they don't need the CC information. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Janis Ezra
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:13:00 -
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ISKBank Stats
thats why I said largscale PvP/Alliances are dead if CCP do something against RMT and 0.0 ratters.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Omni Industrial Coalition
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 21:08:26 Troll. I think that the argument about the list containing credit card numbers is made made up. People who read the EveNews24 article are starting to see what is not there. I went back to EveNews24 and read through the article, but I did not see any mentioning of credit card information.
If they had each player's credit card information, too, then it still would not be proof of a real money transfer, but it can be considered a "grim indicator" and an important link in the evidence chain, because one cannot get such information easily.
They don't need proof. They don't actually even need hard evidence... it's their game. If the data shows enough to their satisfaction that your alts were used to buy isk... well, nothing you do from this point on in the game matters. It's all wasted effort pending your deletion. Yeah, they see you defending the isk buyers in this thread... they're looking at you in the database now, hard. All that cash flow across your IP, dates matching up with the evebank files... oh, you feel them, don't you? They're in your account, in your computer, even under your bed, watching, waiting to strike.
Good bye.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.09 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 21:08:26
Originally by: Ingvar Angst You're trying too hard. Way too hard. Is your heart pounding harder and harder in your chest with every passing beat? Do you feel the warm breath of CCP on the backs of the necks of the alts that do show up on the list? Oh no... can they trace your IP address through them? All that spent money is about to be vaporized, and you know there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, they're on to you now. Your days are numbers. All you have will be gone. You will be no more. Tha-thump tha-thump tha-thump... they're coming for you...
Troll. I think that the argument about the list containing credit card numbers is made made up. People who read the EveNews24 article are starting to see what is not there. I went back to EveNews24 and read through the article, but I did not see any mentioning of credit card information.
If they had each player's credit card information, too, then it still would not be proof of a real money transfer, but it can be considered a "grim indicator" and an important link in the evidence chain, because one cannot get such information easily.
The hole you are digging is just geting bigger and bigger. Would you like a JCB to help you?
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