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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Nerd rage best rage imho.
I suppose that is a good explanation for why he's so negative about it. Bad GMs/STs/DMs/whatevers can bring out that rage like few other things. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Ashokay
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:10:00 -
[62]
R O F L
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Zhim'Fufu
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:14:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu Nerd rage best rage imho.
I suppose that is a good explanation for why he's so negative about it. Bad GMs/STs/DMs/whatevers can bring out that rage like few other things.
Which is why I prefer computer based rpg games be them turn based or real time over the traditional pnp. I thought I had died and gone to rpg heaven when the first gold box dnd games came out for the c64. Oh the glorious adventures my trusty party of six daring adventurers had plus you could let your friends play by passing the controller. No more dice rolls and charts and overbearing gm's! \o/
*waxes nostalgic*
Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
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Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:15:00 -
[64]
Watching the Cockroaches scuttle for cover as the light is suddenly snapped on is going to be absolutely hilarious.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas havent you learned by now CCP are not interested. They generate a substantial income from stuff like this also..and hes true it will change nothing.
Oh yeah, suuuuuuuure.
All the money given to the RMT people are generating such a great income to CCP ....
$350.000 per year just on this site. That are $350.000 income robbed from CCP because people don't buy PLEX but the isk from RMT. You could easily pay a couple more devs with that money. Devs that could improve EVE. Yeah, this RMT is sooooo much helping EVE and CCP...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:20:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu I thought I had died and gone to rpg heaven when the first gold box dnd games came out for the c64. Oh the glorious adventures my trusty party of six daring adventurers had plus you could let your friends play by passing the controller. No more dice rolls and charts and overbearing gm's! \o/
*waxes nostalgic*
Pff. Wasteland > all, especially some silly D&D.
Originally by: Malcanis Watching the Cockroaches scuttle for cover as the light is suddenly snapped on is going to be absolutely hilarious.
àor, as I said in some other thread that tried to create FUD over what would happen without bots: anyone who complains after an Unholy Rage-style campaign needs to be investigated for thought-crime. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Watching the Cockroaches scuttle for cover as the light is suddenly snapped on is going to be absolutely hilarious.
I dunno man. I can't imagine many folks with 7 g's to drop on a video game will be silly enough to use accounts connected to their main. Even the drooling ghost miners manage that one ..
Also, if I had 7 grand to spunk on eve, not that I ever would anyway, even if I did, but, wouldn't you just buy legit isk? Or characters with passive isk generating skills? Like mine? Haha.
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Janis Ezra
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Janis Ezra on 09/03/2011 15:24:35
Originally by: Callum545 in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex 2995.94Ç KiaDuplex 1877.66Ç
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
Icarantus has the highscore! I mailed him this link. He said its not true and he wrote a petition
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Nina Mercedez
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall Or characters with passive isk generating skills? Like mine? Haha.
On an unrelated topic, how passive is your char with only 1 RND agent? PI is hardly passive, since you have to do something.
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Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
Originally by: Callum545 in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex $4,172.74 KiaDuplex $2,615.20
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
TBH I don't see why CCP doesn't just make their isk competatively priced.
CCP have overheads that the RMTers dont.
Taxes for one thing.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall TBH I don't see why CCP doesn't just make their isk competatively priced.
CCP have overheads that the RMTers dont.
Taxes for one thing.
More to the point, RMTs sell ISK for cash and can adjust the exchange rate; CCP does not, and it's the players who set the exchange rate between PLEXes and ISK. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:32:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Whitehound What is more worrying encouraging, and likely more interesting for CCP, is the scale all this anti-RMT movement is taking on.
Fix'd. Cheaters need to die.
Stop fixing my comments, you troll, or I will fix your head. --
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EN24 Lapham
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:37:00 -
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Hello, everyone. I'm EveNews24's News Director. I'm glad to see that so many of you like the story. We put in a lot of work getting this to you and we're rather proud of the results.
I also wanted to let you know that there is an update on the story. Iskbank.com has made a statement in response to the leak.
Quote: Official Iskbank.com statement on the DB leak.
Evenews24.com has a publication about our website and in the end of the story published a list of characters that, as it is stated, have been obtained from our DB.
We officially state the information provided on the above-mentioned website is fictitious and has nothing to do with our customers' data.
We are not responsible for any potential inconvenience the publication of Evenews24 may cause to real players in case some of the listed characters exist in Eve Online.
Also, taking into consideration the potential ways such information can be obtained through and used for, we believe the editorial board of Evenews24 has to bear responsibility for a) unauthorized access to and sharing of personal data of Eve Online users b) slander and intentional harm to certain Eve Online users.
Fly safe.
While we can understand why Iskbank.com would refuse to confirm the data we received, EveNews24 staff spent a great deal of time talking to customers whose names were on this list. The vast majority of those we spoke to confirmed that they were Iskbank.com customers. Some of their stories will be told tomorrow. In the mean time, we stand by our story. It is also worth pointing out that Vadim has not provided any evidence that the individual who accessed the Iskbank.com database used the information to blackmail customers, despite his promise to provide that evidence. As such, we now believe Vadim's allegations of blackmail to be false.
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Corozan Aspinall
Perkone
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 09/03/2011 15:43:00
Originally by: Nina Mercedez
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall Or characters with passive isk generating skills? Like mine? Haha.
On an unrelated topic, how passive is your char with only 1 RND agent? PI is hardly passive, since you have to do something.
PI is 5 planets. 2 extraction. 2 ro > p1. 1 p1 > p2. Its on a 24hr cycle. I export 940576 r0 from each planet which fills the crane up. 4 jumps to export and haul back to high sec.
Then I drop the r0 in an orca and haul it in system to my p1>p2 planet. Export the p1.
Haul it in same orca to p2 planet. Export rocket fuel from p2 planet (745m3 a day). Back to home depot.
All done in 1 trip.
15 mins a day.
Takes 7 days to mfg 500, 000 scourge fury missiles and ~15 days to get enough rocket fuel for that (12500). So every 15 days I haul the latest batch to jita (if I can be bothered; its easier to just pay Red Frog 2.5m to do it for me) and buy mins for the next batch on the return leg.
30 mins every 15 days for that if I do the hauling. If not, sod all since I just contract it to rf from jita and to jita from where I do my manufacturing (nonni in my case).
If you are smart you can probably work out something more efficient. I don't care tbh. Never did as long as I get 500m a month for minimal time wasted.
Thats it.
As for the r&d agent thats just something I could never be arsed with. Since the datacores are so cheap I just buy them - I make way more than plex price each month so I can easily afford it. Its about 40m every 2-3 months to buy the datacores. I do all my invention in npc station. I don't run a pos.
The ONLY issue anyone would have doing what I do is they'd need a supplier of Scourge Fury BPC's to use for invention. NPC stations are usually jammed up so a mate with a pos who can copy you off 100 or so now and then is jolly useful. If you are in a corp or alliance I doubt that will be an issue. I pay a friend pos fuel + 15% for copying time. Works out around 15m for 100 copies. Pish all. Again easily affordable.
In all I intentionally went out of my way to ensure that I could get half a bill at least a month in passive income from doing not more than 15 mins a day.
I don't do missions, I laugh at mining etc.
I'm selling because I would rather pay a sub and pew pew in null sec for an hour or two a day and I'm too tight to pay for 2 accounts. I also like to blow stuff up in low sec and you can't manage sec status (I tried it) and have much fun on the same character you use for all your jew golds. Just practically unenjoyable.
BTW this character has standings aplenty to set up multiple research agents. I just couldn't be bothered since the cost of inventing T2 ammo is minimal anyway.
If you want to know more just convo me in game or evemail me since its offtopic here.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Stop fixing my comments, you troll truth-sayer
No.
Especially since it is encouraging to see people finally getting upset enough about this cheating to start kicking the cheaters in the teeth. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Patient 2428190 on 09/03/2011 15:44:33 Mark my words
The fight against RMT is completely dead in EVE Online. You may get the fabled Unholy Rage II and it will mass ban a ton of bots. Graphs will be made, dev blogs proclaiming victory will be made and the forum rabble will calm down. Then it will just build up again. Methods may change, but the same result will happen. RMT will remain incredibly lucrative and will constantly plague EVE. Within a year of the next great purge, bots will be back in business and RMT will be stronger than ever. Probably even better with the expanded playerbase and all the god damn micro transactions that Incarna will bring in on its coat-tails (Needed to get my whine in there)
ISK is absolutely everything in this game, and it is filled with bland, repetitive solo ways to get it. It will be botted until the day TQ closes, and nothing will ever stop that. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:43:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Janis Ezra Edited by: Janis Ezra on 09/03/2011 15:24:35
Originally by: Callum545 in case you all missed it
KiaDuplex 2995.94Ç KiaDuplex 1877.66Ç
I hate people like this Please CCP do something
Icarantus has the highscore! I mailed him this link. He said its not true and he wrote a petition
Cheater in denying guilt non-shocker.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 14:20:28 CCP will not do anything about it should the list be real, because it is not one of their logs and even if CCP can match IP addresses with character names may these have come from another source for such a forgery. Unless CCP can look into the bank accounts and see the real money transfer then really anyone can come up with such a list.
Not entirely true as apparently EN had obtained list which got real names of those involved also. However they did not publish that part. ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :) |
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 15:46:44
Originally by: Furb Killer @Whitehound, so now the issue is not RMT but the issue is that people complain about cheating? Really? You got issues.
I wrote what the issue is. It is bad press.
EVE is going to drown in self-righteous and self-proclaimed e-sheriffs one day. Look at you, you are already acting like some German pompous brick of 1939.
All players on that list, no matter if the list is wrong or right, will get harassed over the next weeks. You will fall over each other like a medieval mob over witches.
Miners get bumped around between the asteroids with MWD-driven battleships every day already. Hulkageddon 1-4 aims at whoever could theoretically be a bot or macro. Now this list with names?!
EVE is a dark place, but it is going to be as dark as Europe was in 1939-45. --
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Malcanis
Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous Scum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 09/03/2011 15:46:44
Originally by: Furb Killer @Whitehound, so now the issue is not RMT but the issue is that people complain about cheating? Really? You got issues.
I wrote what the issue is. It is bad press.
EVE is going to drown in self-righteous and self-proclaimed e-sheriffs one day. Look at you, you are already acting like some German pompous brick of 1939.
All players on that list, no matter if the list is wrong or right, will get harassed over the next weeks. You will fall over each other like a medieval mob over witches.
Miners get bumped around between the asteroids with MWD-driven battleships every day already. Hulkageddon 1-4 aims at whoever could theoretically be a bot or macro. Now this list with names?!
EVE is a dark place, but it is going to be as dark as Europe was in 1939-45.
So a bunch of cheaters (with maybe a few innocents) are going to get hassled in EVE?
And this is worse than the normal state of people getting hassled how? Why is it worse to suicide gank someone for (probably) buying ISK than it is to gank them for lulz?
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:57:00 -
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KiaDuplex$6,787.94 Icarantus$6,675.27
Who the hell is pathetic enough to spend that much money on a stupid video game? - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
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northwesten
Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Quantum Forge
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
All players on that list, no matter if the list is wrong or right, will get harassed over the next weeks. You will fall over each other like a medieval mob over witches.
Good! and relating this post/news to 1939 is fail... Really pretty weak post on your part.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis So a bunch of cheaters (with maybe a few innocents) are going to get hassled in EVE?
How do you know they are cheaters? Because EveNews24 tells you?
What makes this worse is that these players will not get killed for lulz, but because you think they are cheaters, that they deserve it and that it is right and justified!
Did you check if your name is not on this list? I think I saw it somewhere on it. I could be wrong though. --
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound What makes this worse is that these players will not get killed for lulz, but because you think they are cheaters, that they deserve it and that it is right and justified!
His point is that if they get killed, it's right and justified regardless.
Quote: Did you check if your name is not on this list? I think I saw it somewhere on it. I could be am wrong though.
Fix'd. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Malcanis So a bunch of cheaters (with maybe a few innocents) are going to get hassled in EVE?
How do you know they are cheaters? Because EveNews24 tells you?
What makes this worse is that these players will not get killed for lulz, but because you think they are cheaters, that they deserve it and that it is right and justified!
Did you check if your name is not on this list? I think I saw it somewhere on it. I could be wrong though.
Worried about the next tranche of names to be released (eveisk.ru later in the week) are we? You're certainly not disinterested thats for sure
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Quote: Did you check if your name is not on this list? I think I saw it somewhere on it. I could be am wrong though.
Fix'd.Troll'd.
There. --
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Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:05:00 -
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Wow...I had never imagined that folks would cheat on such a scale in a pretend spaceship game.
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Christos Hendez
Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:06:00 -
[88]
http://cogdev.net/blink/?act=profile&id=423666580
Value of Blinks Won 1,004,588,000,150 ISK
Icarantus $6,675.27
heh, discuss. ----- Russian | English | French
AAA Diplomat WAR.H |
ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:06:00 -
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I¦m not getting how everybody is so amused by this.
Reading about RMTa and CCP¦s lackluster response(1 day bans, seriously CCP?) saps my will to log into this game and invest any more of my lifetime gaining meager amounts of isk to actually get something done. ______________ Mal-¦Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-`Big damn heroes, sir.` Mal-¦Aint we just.¦ |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Rogue Drone Systems
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Posted - 2011.03.09 16:06:00 -
[90]
So... wow.
This is a very interesting thread.
But I have to ask... is everyone on that list a complete idiot? Why are you buying ISK when it's practically lying around free for the taking? There's soooooo much ISK in Eve now.
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