didnt read the huge wall of text you posted because if someone needs so many words to explain his opinion, then he is wrong anyways.

now to your TL;DR. if you give stats, at least post from where you made them up. because 71% of players in highsec can just as well mean that most people just have their alts stationed in highsec.

The call isn't to nerf Highsec, the call is to make most of Nullsec actually worth a damn.

Nerfing HighSec more will only cause an exodus from the game. Might be good for some, but not so much for CCPs accountants. The ideology that nerfing one area to promote another hasn't worked, doing so even more still won't work.

It's from the fanfest 2012 state of the economy video which can be found here. You are right, maybe it would be fair to say "toons" rather than "players" when referring to where people live. However every toon has a player behind it, even if that player has many toons.

Most of null space is borderline useless and should really be no less profitable than the best system in highsec.

Nerfing HighSec more will only cause an exodus from the game.

The ideology that nerfing one area to promote another hasn't worked, doing so even more still won't work.

The call isn't to nerf Highsec, the call is to make most of Nullsec actually worth a damn.

The ideology that nerfing one area to promote another hasn't worked, doing so even more still won't work.

As luck would have it, that is not the ideology. The idea is to nerf highsec so that other areas can at the same time be made relatively more attractive without breaking things.

lol, ok that's absurd,

In relation to what it's already been through.

Same idea different wording.

There are a number of threads on this topic that have been locked on this forum.

This one so far as stayed civil, as such I'll leave it open.

Take care when posting, and make sure you keep it within the forum rules.

-A nerf doesnGÇÖt mean taking away any activities, it simply means making them less profitable. If missions paid 1% less they would still be worth it, what if it was 10% or 15%? You can still mine if the roids yield 8% less ore per cycle. You can do everything you can do now, just for less profit.

This entire "nerf highsec" campaign was begun by goons, and is perpetuated by them and their types.

Isn't that the state null is in now? You can do everything, it's just less profitable. And yet that state is called "broken".

I think that plays directly into the "null is broken so you want to break empire" argument.

This just in: Goons discover time travel!
Predictions for tomorrow: Mt. Rushmore will always have shown four carvings of Lowtax.


Oh, and there's plenty to fix. If you haven't found it yet, it's because you've not been looking or put a blindfold on.

Nerf high sec even more, large amounts of players will unsub, CCP will lose money resulting in 1 of 2 things: they start laying people off, which will grind EVE's already slow development to a halt, or they'll reverse the nerfs to high sec.

This entire "nerf highsec" campaign was begun by goons, and is perpetuated by them and their types. Their goal has nothing to do with "fixing" anything; there's nothing to be fixed. Things are fine how they are. Their goal, like it is in all the games they infest, is to "break" the game. To **** it up somehow. And CCP is going right along with it, too. They're gonna unwittingly **** their own game up for the goons (who have already infiltrated CCP via Soundwave). They use the "tinfoil hat" accusation against anyone who sees the obvious **** on the wall.

Scream that the sky is green into a man's ear long enough, and he'll start thinking the sky is green. Scream that highsec is broken long enough, and people will begin thinking it's broken. You scumbags are unfortunately versed in deception, and it's clearly working. We'll see what happens in the future, though.

What needs fixing?

What needs fixing? Give me a detailed list of what needs fixing.

And tell me how much you'd love to nerf highsec more. Give me numbers, too. Let's hear %s. Start talking.

And your sarcastic comments about goons and Mt. Rushmore are typical and expected.

Though it is a slightly different topic I think the main problem null faces is that alliances can't build a vertically integrated industrial base where money flows from the bottom to the top for other alliances to attack.

What I mean by this is you want people mining + ratting + manufacturing + trading in null, making everything they need (maybe importing 1-3% of the materials they need) and able to live independently of High Sec if they so choose.