This is your opinion, which is as good as anyone else's. When I first started the game, I watched the video, then browsed the available bloodlines and picked the "rebel" race. I found it just fitting (causation due to lore) that their ships were nimble and good for hit and run. I also found it interesting Minmater having a lot of low sec, it was just fitting with the rest of the lore.
The actual ships choices came later, actually I asked my first corp CEO which Minmatar ships were good for me to train and he told me.

This is my little case, I am sure I am not alone at this. Not everybody have born with pure min max and quickest path to fortune in mind.

risk is your factories being able to be assaulted or caputured, your ships with resources or finished procucts caught in transit and destroyed, and the like

it is not "well my wothless ship could die and my implantless clone could be podded" it is real risk where if you don't do things right you could suffer real loss

No, I don't move out to 0.0 because out there are no markets to swing trade. I even asked one of your guys if you had something suitable in VFK but he said no

If civilized has no place here, then industry and research don't as well.

As for doing third party transactions, it's not like they always bother forewarning me, I go with a cov ops when 5 minutes before I was in a cov ops, I go with whatever I have handy.

yeah no you actually were honest earlier:



you aren't in 0.0 because it is scary

now granted, because of the broken industry in 0.0 there are not vibrant markets to trade in (because industry is broken and all markets are merely derivative of jita) but you're complaining about the lack of 0.0 being turned into highsec, then suddenly claiming you're just not in 0.0 because its not jita

this is a forum, the things you said before are easily checked and you are busily trying to say you did not say the things that are in plain text for anyone to read and saying inane things like this instead

given swing trading has nothing to do with your call for npc guards in 0.0 we can safely throw that reasoning out

yeah no you actually were honest earlier:



you aren't in 0.0 because it is scary

now granted, because of the broken industry in 0.0 there are not vibrant markets to trade in (because industry is broken and all markets are merely derivative of jita) but you're complaining about the lack of 0.0 being turned into highsec, then suddenly claiming you're just not in 0.0 because its not jita

this is a forum, the things you said before are easily checked and you are busily trying to say you did not say the things that are in plain text for anyone to read and saying inane things like this instead

given swing trading has nothing to do with your call for npc guards in 0.0 we can safely throw that reasoning out

which doesn't make you comparing the risk of losing that ship to the risk that would be involved in running nullsec industry any less laughable.

My my, caught by the ability of the forums to store information and posters to look it up.

nullsec requires huge quantities of materials to be imported and this cannot be avoided: even leaving aside the trit problem you must import non-native fuel and moon products (or their derivitives: t2 ships). fuel and moon minerals are racial and you cannot supply what you need, period

risk is your factories being able to be assaulted or caputured, your ships with resources or finished procucts caught in transit and destroyed, and the like

it is not "well my wothless ship could die and my implantless clone could be podded" it is real risk where if you don't do things right you could suffer real loss

i don't even know how to deal with someone with that little grasp of the facts

i am not afraid of risk, I venture into wormholes in a ship that warps cloaked with +3s, which means I basically cannot die unless I screw up and my death is basically a rounding error but I could die 14 times for the price of someone losing a single freighter in null (the thing we are actually discussing and I would never do) so clearly i am not afraid of risk

now please put concord in 0.0 tia

Nope, if there were nations in null sec (including guards) then traders could move goods in there and create a true second Jita where I could do my stuff.
Does not seem too complex to infer.

Which material is unavailable in null?

you basically just want the game to hold your hand and protect you from any and all risk

so you can do the same thing you do in highsec in something with a different name

there are nations, there are not magical npc guards
there are, in fact, vibrant markets (vfk) but because 0.0 industry is broken they are not vibrant markets
you can easily import to them if you have friends and can deal with the risk

you basically just want the game to hold your hand and protect you from any and all risk so you can do the same thing you do in highsec in something with a different name

HighSec factories can and in fact are attacked, there is a little diference in relations to Null, they get destroyed, not like the null stations, so you are partly correct, they cannot be captured.

You can't find all moon materials everywhere. R32s are regional (which is why technetium is such a problem), as are R8s. As any given T2 ship requires basically "everything" to build, you are forced to import something as a result, whether it's the T2 ship itself or the materials (it's easier to import the T2 ship than it is to import the missing materials and run a reaction chain on them to build the ship with, hth).

Also, ice. If you're planning on supplying yourself locally, I hope you also only plan on running one type of POS and one type of capital ship, specifically the type who's fuel you can mine locally.

Yeah, ok they admitted they want the magical NPC guards.

Now that we've established that ....

Hey, if you are so masochistic to want to play 24/7 like an NPC, be my guest!

I manage to do my thing without doing that: it was your lack of imagination that lead you to do something as foolish as camp your own gates for hours at a time

intel channels+scout+paying attention

you didn't adapt, and you got crushed in response

Which material is unavailable in null?

It might sound strange but "adapt" was exactly what I had to do when told to patrol gates for hours.

It might sound strange but "adapt" was exactly what I had to do when told to patrol gates for hours.

Null sec zealots just can't get their heads around the fact that manufacturing caps, supercaps, and other ships is one huge industry.

Test and goons both have a T1 ship replacement policy, so they can't be having too much difficulty getting ships to their null sec people.

HighSec factories can and in fact are attacked, there is a little diference in relations to Null, they get destroyed, not like the null stations, so you are partly correct, they cannot be captured.

HighSec ships empty or otherwise full are being caught in transit and destroyed, there's a little difference here also, unlike in Null, there is not a failsafe warning system in HS, in Null you get to check who is blue and what not...