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Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus Aeterna Anima
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Posted - 2013.02.09 12:29:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:I have spent ~$15 per month and 40 days for each Battleship lvl 5 just to be able to fly all capital ships. This is roughly $90 and 6 ~5.5 months of training. Now you say that this requirements are going to be reduced and somebody else will get same product that I got ,but only for $15 and 2-3 weeks of training.
I bought a computer 3 years ago for 1000$. Last week someone bought the same computer for 100$.
Boy, I really feel cheated and want my money back! Also I will never buy a computer again, it's a total rip off! |
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus S I L E N T.
54
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Posted - 2013.02.09 12:49:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:Alrigh folks, good news. We'll change the way training works so that you can still train the skills you have after change, even if you don't meet the prerequisite anymore. Ex: You have Amarr Freighter 1 after the change but not Advanced Spaceship Command 5. You can still fly the Providence and you will now still be able to train Amarr Freighter past 1 as long as you have the skill injected.Hope that's clear - trying my very best
I don't see how different rules for different people is good news... |
Chi'Nane T'Kal
Interminatus Aeterna Anima
33
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Posted - 2013.02.09 12:58:00 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:CCP Ytterbium wrote:Alrigh folks, good news. We'll change the way training works so that you can still train the skills you have after change, even if you don't meet the prerequisite anymore. Ex: You have Amarr Freighter 1 after the change but not Advanced Spaceship Command 5. You can still fly the Providence and you will now still be able to train Amarr Freighter past 1 as long as you have the skill injected.Hope that's clear - trying my very best I don't see how different rules for different people is good news...
It's good news because apparently training skills where prereqs were missing was NOT explicitely impossible in the past but caused all kinds of bugs with the skill queue. So simply allowing any injected skill to be trained seems a good way to prevent all kinds of headaches. |
Cyaron wars
D00M. Northern Coalition.
22
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Posted - 2013.02.09 13:13:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:I have spent ~$15 per month and 40 days for each Battleship lvl 5 just to be able to fly all capital ships. This is roughly $90 and 6 ~5.5 months of training. Now you say that this requirements are going to be reduced and somebody else will get same product that I got ,but only for $15 and 2-3 weeks of training. I bought a computer 3 years ago for 1000$. Last week someone bought the same computer for 100$. Boy, I really feel cheated and want my money back! Also I will never buy a computer again, it's a total rip off!
If you woul'd read post till the end you wouldn't comment this, but let me explain how things work.
Price of goods drop only after better version is released. For exaple u buy iphone 4 and then iphone 5 is released. Or apple will say that iphone 4 is crap. In case with this one we haven't got any better version of capitals that erquire LVL 5 skills.
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Iris Bravemount
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
215
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Posted - 2013.02.09 13:14:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: The Command ship skill requires the training of the skills for exactly 0 links. Note that there is a big difference between "Armored Warfare" and "Armored Warfare Specialist".
The skills that are being added to the command ship skill prereqs all give bonuses to your fleet even if you don't fit any warfare links, and are therefore all very valuable for any character that wants to sit in a squad command position, command ship or not.
You mean squad booster position, right?
Yes, I am bored Why active tank bonuses are bad for you |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
732
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Posted - 2013.02.09 13:51:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:I have spent ~$15 per month and 40 days for each Battleship lvl 5 just to be able to fly all capital ships. This is roughly $90 and 6 ~5.5 months of training. Now you say that this requirements are going to be reduced and somebody else will get same product that I got ,but only for $15 and 2-3 weeks of training. I bought a computer 3 years ago for 1000$. Last week someone bought the same computer for 100$. Boy, I really feel cheated and want my money back! Also I will never buy a computer again, it's a total rip off! If you woul'd read post till the end you wouldn't comment this, but let me explain how things work. Price of goods drop only after better version is released. For exaple u buy iphone 4 and then iphone 5 is released. Or apple will say that iphone 4 is crap. In case with this one we haven't got any better version of capitals that erquire LVL 5 skills. then again I have, according to you, "wasted time" to train all battleship skills to 5, and I don't feel cheated.
why? because they are still useful.
I mean, last time I checked, BS V isn't only good for capital ships.
I know, shocking. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3800
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Posted - 2013.02.09 13:53:00 -
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CCP TOOK AWAY BS 5 WITHOUT TELLING US RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Dysgenesis
Dhoomcats
0
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Posted - 2013.02.09 14:19:00 -
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Personally I think adding module skills as a prerequisite for new pilots to train for a hull to be a major error of judgement. The reason given (so people aren't confused by an apparently shorter training time) is weak, no-one should be surprised that you have to train more than just the basic hull skill to improve your abilities in a given ship beyond the absolute basics required to fly it. However my main problem is if forces people to fly ships for their given role rather than whatever purpose they want. The best example are command ships, only a proportion fly them because they want to boost fleets, many fly them because they are good ships for many other roles (such as solo/small gang pvp)
Also on that note, say you have command ships I and all the warfare skills to 4. After the patch I appreciate you will retain command ships I and still be able to fly the ship, but can you train command ships to level II? (I apologise if this has already been answered).
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
3935
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Posted - 2013.02.09 17:13:00 -
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Dysgenesis wrote: Also on that note, say you have command ships I and all the warfare skills to 4. After the patch I appreciate you will retain command ships I and still be able to fly the ship, but can you train command ships to level II? (I apologise if this has already been answered).
Yes you will be able to continue to train the skill as long as you have it injected before the patch.
Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Savira Terrant
Valhollr
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 17:16:00 -
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Dysgenesis wrote:Personally I think adding module skills as a prerequisite for new pilots to train for a hull to be a major error of judgement. The reason given (so people aren't confused by an apparently shorter training time) is weak, no-one should be surprised that you have to train more than just the basic hull skill to improve your abilities in a given ship beyond the absolute basics required to fly it. However my main problem is if forces people to fly ships for their given role rather than whatever purpose they want. The best example are command ships, only a proportion fly them because they want to boost fleets, many fly them because they are good ships for many other roles (such as solo/small gang pvp)
Also on that note, say you have command ships I and all the warfare skills to 4. After the patch I appreciate you will retain command ships I and still be able to fly the ship, but can you train command ships to level II? (I apologise if this has already been answered).
Somebody PLEASE update the devblog itself, before the next person joining in the frenzy asks the same questions OVER AND OVER again!
Put it at the top and in yellow.
Edit: Better yet, pink!
But I somehow like the first paragraph of the above post. |
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Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:30:00 -
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"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1 |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3804
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:39:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this. Were you dropped on your head as a kid, or do you just like the taste of lead paint chips? Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:43:00 -
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Chi'Nane T'Kal wrote:Cyaron wars wrote:I have spent ~$15 per month and 40 days for each Battleship lvl 5 just to be able to fly all capital ships. This is roughly $90 and 6 ~5.5 months of training. Now you say that this requirements are going to be reduced and somebody else will get same product that I got ,but only for $15 and 2-3 weeks of training. I bought a computer 3 years ago for 1000$. Last week someone bought the same computer for 100$. Boy, I really feel cheated and want my money back! Also I will never buy a computer again, it's a total rip off!
How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3804
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:46:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair. Learn to read before you go criticizing CCP. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:47:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this. Were you dropped on your head as a kid, or do you just like the taste of lead paint chips?
What? see what people play EVE... no comment. Sad. |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:48:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair. Learn to read before you go criticizing CCP.
I support CCP my friend, however I do not support the current management. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3804
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:50:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair. Learn to read before you go criticizing CCP. I support CCP my friend, however I do not support the current management. If you had actually bothered reading the dev blog or any of the pages of this thread you would have realized just how stupid you sound. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Savira Terrant
Valhollr
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:51:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1
People please read the DEVBLOG!
If you have BC 5 and all four cruisers to 3 you will get ALL 4 BC skills to 5. Just how often does that need to be answeared?!
And stating that you can fly all BC perfecly also means you already have all four cruisers to at least 3 - problem solved.
Also: "disenfranchised" - are you serious? Only because you pay a subscription does not mean you are some kind of shareholder of CCP. Or how would you ever have had a r"ight to vote"? |
fukier
RISE of LEGION
782
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:57:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Dysgenesis wrote: Also on that note, say you have command ships I and all the warfare skills to 4. After the patch I appreciate you will retain command ships I and still be able to fly the ship, but can you train command ships to level II? (I apologise if this has already been answered).
Yes you will be able to continue to train the skill as long as you have it injected before the patch.
it would be funny on patch day if you are one day away from injecting the skill for command ships and then just to find out you have 3 more weeks of training... At the end of the game both the pawn and the Queen go in the same box. |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 18:58:00 -
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Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1 People please read the DEVBLOG! If you have BC 5 and all four cruisers to 3 you will get ALL 4 BC skills to 5. Just how often does that need to be answeared?! And stating that you can fly all BC perfecly also means you already have all four cruisers to at least 3 - problem solved. Also: "disenfranchised" - are you serious? Only because you pay a subscription does not mean you are somekind of shareholder of CCP. Or how would you ever have had a right to "vote"?
I have read the DEV blog and the fact that it's not clear to me it means it's not written well enough. To your other point, yes I can vote and I have the right to criticise a decision or things that I think are not right. Why would you have the forums then? You can ban me if you wish.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3804
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:01:00 -
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It was quite clear to me and several other people.
Just because you had trouble understanding it doesn't mean it wasn't well written. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:02:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair. Learn to read before you go criticizing CCP. I support CCP my friend, however I do not support the current management. If you had actually bothered reading the dev blog or any of the pages of this thread you would have realized just how stupid you sound.
I don't sound stupid. But you comments previously did. |
Savira Terrant
Valhollr
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:03:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1 People please read the DEVBLOG! If you have BC 5 and all four cruisers to 3 you will get ALL 4 BC skills to 5. Just how often does that need to be answeared?! And stating that you can fly all BC perfecly also means you already have all four cruisers to at least 3 - problem solved. Also: "disenfranchised" - are you serious? Only because you pay a subscription does not mean you are somekind of shareholder of CCP. Or how would you ever have had a right to "vote"? I have read the DEV blog and the fact that it's not clear to me it means it's not written well enough. To your other point, yes I can vote and I have the right to criticise a decision or things that I think are not right. Why would you have the forums then? You can ban me if you wish.
Are you seriously trying to lobby that only because CCP is gracious enough to host a Forum for us, that you have a vote? No. You have not. You may merely voice your concerns about gameplay here. Which you did - I give you that.
But your concerns are nullified by the DEVBLOG and all the clarifications made in this thread already. |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:03:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:It was quite clear to me and several other people.
Just because you had trouble understanding it doesn't mean it wasn't well written.
That is interesting. Let's see how many people get it. My point stands. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
3804
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:04:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:How can you compare a piece of hardware to EVE? did the cost of subscription go down? did SPs depreciate? wake up my friend! I agree that this change is unfair. Learn to read before you go criticizing CCP. I support CCP my friend, however I do not support the current management. If you had actually bothered reading the dev blog or any of the pages of this thread you would have realized just how stupid you sound. I don't sound stupid. But you comments previously did. Don't forget to fit the Damage Control II, it seems like you need it now more than ever. Malcanis for CSM 8 Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Mund Richard
309
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:05:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:It was quite clear to me and several other people. Confirming I understood what I read on the first go, and know I will get all BC V-s. Wish there was a Rogue Drone Faction Battleship... Infested Domi! Including all the wiggly bits to tend to your swarm, droneboat role bonus, and ofc with turrets. |
Kusanagi Kasuga
Ferocious Felines
53
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:06:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Dysgenesis wrote: Also on that note, say you have command ships I and all the warfare skills to 4. After the patch I appreciate you will retain command ships I and still be able to fly the ship, but can you train command ships to level II? (I apologise if this has already been answered).
Yes you will be able to continue to train the skill as long as you have it injected before the patch.
Could you double check this? It's the exact opposite of how I (and many others) read the previous dev opinion on this question. |
Ubat Batuk
Real Simple Academy
6
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:06:00 -
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Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1 People please read the DEVBLOG! If you have BC 5 and all four cruisers to 3 you will get ALL 4 BC skills to 5. Just how often does that need to be answeared?! And stating that you can fly all BC perfecly also means you already have all four cruisers to at least 3 - problem solved. Also: "disenfranchised" - are you serious? Only because you pay a subscription does not mean you are somekind of shareholder of CCP. Or how would you ever have had a right to "vote"? I have read the DEV blog and the fact that it's not clear to me it means it's not written well enough. To your other point, yes I can vote and I have the right to criticise a decision or things that I think are not right. Why would you have the forums then? You can ban me if you wish. Are you seriously trying to lobby that only because CCP is gracious enough to host a Forum for us, that you have a vote? No. You have not. You may merely voice your concerns about gameplay here. Which you did - I give you that. But your concerns are nullified by the DEVBLOG and all the clarifications made in this thread already.
No. My vote is my multiple subscriptions. When I decide to vote NO I will stop paying. Is that good enough to you?
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Savira Terrant
Valhollr
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:07:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It was quite clear to me and several other people.
Just because you had trouble understanding it doesn't mean it wasn't well written. That is interesting. Let's see how many people get it. My point stands.
At the moment on Tranquility, the Prophecy requires two skills to fly: Amarr Cruiser 3 and Battlecruiser 1. Thus, if you have these two skills when the change happens, we will give you Amarr Battlecruiser 1. Simple so far.
The trick is to remember that the Prophecy bonuses are based on the Battlecruiser skill. Thus, if you want to maximize the reimbursement, training Amarr Cruiser past 3 will do you little good. Aim for Battlecruisers 5 instead, as you will then get Amarr Battlecruiser 5.
It is noteworthy to point out that if you donGÇÖt have a racial Cruiser at 3, then you wonGÇÖt receive the corresponding racial Battlecruiser skill. It is thus worthwhile to train all Racial Cruiser skill at 3, then focus on maximizing Battlecruisers before the reimbursement happens.
If you cannot understand these three points, then nobody will be able to help you. Thus you "point" has no base. |
Savira Terrant
Valhollr
11
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Posted - 2013.02.09 19:09:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:Savira Terrant wrote:Ubat Batuk wrote:"If it worked before it will work after"... not true. To get to the maximum bonuses on BCs which BTW I already have, I will have to re-skill 3 of them! Most people do not understand the impact of this, see when that happens!
I didn't ask for this change! Today I have BC 5, I can fly all BCs with max bonuses, therefore to be fair you have to give me BC 5 for all races. If I have BC 4 I must get BC 4 for all races. Are you seriously thinking that I am going to let this happen and keep quiet? I am losing in this.
I want to continue playing EVE but I am getting more and more disenfranchised for every "expansion" which I am sorry to say it doesn't expand anything except for people's rage. Where is the expansion? I would call it reconfiguration to make things easy for noobs and give hell to people who have already invested lots of bucks into EVE. Do you recall how you killed incursions for example?
I would like to recommend a couple of things to CCP:
1. Get a proper CEO 2. Get proper executive management 3. For speeches and videos use actors so that you get the best result 4. Recruit someone who helps you align to your customers' needs and priorities 5. Play EVE yourself with a standard character that you must train from scratch, just like me
This is my 2 cents.
Rage +1 People please read the DEVBLOG! If you have BC 5 and all four cruisers to 3 you will get ALL 4 BC skills to 5. Just how often does that need to be answeared?! And stating that you can fly all BC perfecly also means you already have all four cruisers to at least 3 - problem solved. Also: "disenfranchised" - are you serious? Only because you pay a subscription does not mean you are somekind of shareholder of CCP. Or how would you ever have had a right to "vote"? I have read the DEV blog and the fact that it's not clear to me it means it's not written well enough. To your other point, yes I can vote and I have the right to criticise a decision or things that I think are not right. Why would you have the forums then? You can ban me if you wish. Are you seriously trying to lobby that only because CCP is gracious enough to host a Forum for us, that you have a vote? No. You have not. You may merely voice your concerns about gameplay here. Which you did - I give you that. But your concerns are nullified by the DEVBLOG and all the clarifications made in this thread already. No. My vote is my multiple subscriptions. When I decide to vote NO I will stop paying. Is that good enough to you?
Yes. Neither CCP nor I need you to play this game. Simple as that. If you think that makes you "vote" than be happy with it. |
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