Where is is the Electronic Warfare Bonus on the Dominix like on the scorpion or armageddon ?? !!!

OK I'm not very happy with the Hyperion I suggested in retrospect. I think the original CCP proposal for the Hyperion might have been OK if they added a bonus to armour rep capacitor use (in addition to repair amount) so that you could run two reps with a single injector.

OMG their has to be a consequence for your actions so obviously no you are not going to be stable ( however 2 x LAR's = 800 GJ over 15 seconds standard over the 10 seconds your injector cycles so if you are not shooting you can be stable injecting cap 800's ) you want to shoot MWD point and so on then something has to suffer.

I also think you're nerfing the drone use of the megathron too harshly, it should keep 125mbit bandwidth and 125m3 bay, drones ARE other Gallente weapons after all. The other changes to the Gal lineup are pretty aces though

I personally feel that all active tanking bonuses should come with a 4% or 5% reduction in cap consumption of armor/shield reppers per level.

Now look at it with 3x mag stabs on the "future" version of the ship. Or look at the extra tank you get by another plate or hardener. The "megathron nerf" is hardly a nerf at all.

Sure thing. In this change Hyper looses 10% of gun DPS.

Increased Drone bay and bandwidth do not cover this DPS loss even remotely.

So basically after this patch Hyper will be just worse than before.

The third mag stab just puts you back to where we were with the current levels of dps, but with no utility and the same tank. If you use the extra slot for tank, you'll have the same dps as you would if you just used only 1 mag stab on the current version. Obviously the numbers are a bit different but we're only talking about a difference of maybe 30 dps. IMO it's not worth it to sacrifice the utility. I'd be fine with it if we got the 125mb bandwidth as well but by cutting the drone bay these changes just feel like a nerf.

Now look at it with 3x mag stabs on the "future" version of the ship. Or look at the extra tank you get by another plate or hardener. The "megathron nerf" is hardly a nerf at all.

You still snipped the context to which I was replying to but ok...

1270 DPS, 3 mag stab, 3 Ogre II's.

Personally I'm not sold on the speed being all that much of an advantage. The idea of an "attack" battleship just seems already obsolete because of the attack battlecruisers. The speed would have to be much better than it is now to really give it an "attack" profile. I think they should not try and balance the BS based on roles and rather just make sure they make sense as individual ships. Roles are fine and dandy for cruisers and maybe even BCs but for BS you'd have to drastically change the stats for them to make sense in any role beyond heavy tank ewar or heavy combat.

The idea seems to be that Gallente need an attack battleship (out of simple obligation to the roles format), the Megathron might be the least worst choice, therefore it gets to be the attack battleship. I'm not sure anybody who uses the Megathron is really interested in the extra agility and, indeed, the people who like the present proposal are mostly interested in turning the Megathron into a brick-plated competitor with the Abbadon, not a speed/agility competitor with the Tempest.

I think Gallente should have three combat battleships actually.

[quote=Johnny Aideron]

" the hype has the ehp of a combat bs and the speed on one

the mega has the slot layout of one (an attack brawler needs its neut)

and the domi has the speed and the fact it has to stay in the same spot to use its sentries

One very big difference. In 99% of circumstances where the Hype will be flown it will have 1 or 2 reps.

Thus, a non-plated Hype will be as fast if not faster than any plated bs it wants to chase down and beat to death. it doesn't need the Attack designation to do the job. It just will. -1 gun and +1 low finally gives it the Pg to fit proper guns And tank.

8'th low on the Mega will let it do whatever you want it to. More DPS or better resists. Either way it will be fast enough to be effective.

AND, we still have the Navy Mega rebal coming soon.

Get ready to shake the dust off. We're useful again in 3,2,1.

I'll just reiterate my stance that the drone tracking and range bonus is not the [main] problem here. It's the Armageddon.

At close range a 'Geddon can do exactly what a Domi can do but better. And sniper sentryboats fits will underperform compared to sniper gunboats since sentry drones are immobile and can be lost.

Yup, and the sentry drone returning wil be great for sentry drones of it can be done, but will not be the help the Dominix needs.

Yeah would be great for sentries... but if they did, why would we ever use Heavies?

(And yes, some strange people use Heavy drones. In fact, I use them on a regular basis. Have done so for years. And amazingly they work, and actually blow stuff up. And by "stuff" I mean the ships of other players, both competent and incompetent. Which probably means I'm using them wrong, cuz everyone knows Heavy drones suck.)

As for whether or not "returning sentries" would help the Domi's "needs", I reckon that depends on what you determine those "needs" to be.

Yeah would be great for sentries... but if they did, why would we ever use Heavies?

(And yes, some strange people use Heavy drones. In fact, I use them on a regular basis. Have done so for years. And amazingly they work, and actually blow stuff up. And by "stuff" I mean the ships of other players, both competent and incompetent. Which probably means I'm using them wrong, cuz everyone knows Heavy drones suck.)

As for whether or not "returning sentries" would help the Domi's "needs", I reckon that depends on what you determine those "needs" to be.

CCp should go back to the whole method 'gamers dont know what they want, we will give them ships and they will have to deal'

crying about projectiles having to be fit on dominix now? o yeah like amarr had to do for 6 years?

Hmm.

I wonder if it's time to reconsider the change to the game that resulted in a nearly hard coded limit of 5x active drones.

I think a dedicated drone boat using 10 active drones (restoring the old +1 Active Drone Per Level), could be very interesting as a Gallente racial flavour. Might be best reserved for T2 ships though.

I may miss the days where Drones and Drone Interfacing were 1+ Drone Controlled per level each, resulting nearly every ship fielding 10, and the drone ships that had the +1 Drone controlled per level having 15 on the field at once.

Would make for a very interesting Dominix though, and set it apart from the new 'Geddon. Same applies for Vexor/Arb and Myrm/Proph.

The loss of the Nuet kind of sucks but I don't think it's nearly as significant as people are making it out to be. I'd rather fly the current proposal of the mega over the one that is live atm.

I have to ask this, and it's not to be a 'douche' but, do you fly the Megathron on TQ?

You forgot -1 launcher!

Yes, I most certainly do. I stand by my point, People are being babies about the change atm.

I don't really understand why you ask the question though... Is it because my opinion of the change differs from yourself? Thus I must be full of it to stand by that opinion? The only change I see at all reasonable to the proposed mega is to maybe increase the drone bandwidth back to 100m3. Other than that, I'd much rather have the current bonus layout, mobility buff and slot layout in exchange for the loss of the utility high.

Because calling people 'babies', who more than likely have more experience in their little finger, of flying Megathrons than yourself, is not constructive.

Loss of the utility high is very significant for a lot of the blaster fits.

Now having said that, nothing is going to stop me flying the ship that's been my 'darling' these past 9 years, I've already got modified fits in mind.