didn't they say 6 5 7 ?

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Is there any chance of getting that lowslot moved to a mid on the megathron at all i think the option to shield tank nano it is its best option since it has the worst range and tank of all battleships?... oo and all attack bs need much more mobility?

Also a lot more EHP is needed surely the double HP each class of ship should be followed here....

Gallente need an 8 weapon BS platform just like all the others ( Maelstrom, Typhoon, Abaddon, Apocalypse, Rokh, post patch ).

Yes because rokhs are so mobile and do tons of dps :P

Go poast to the caldari thread about how un happy you are with it instead of trying to give evey gallente BS hull 5 mids.

As stated gallente = armor so if you want to try to shiled tank a gallente ship you should do so within the restrictions of the hulls.

The problem of Gallente is, to be precise, this: they are blaster boats, dependent of the range more than other platforms, and they are armor boats. And with armor boats the best fits (for EHP purposes) are those that slow down the speed (you know, Pumps, 1600mm's and stuff like that). My fitting some pages ago, that don't slow down the speed for this attack Mega, only have <75K EHP, kind of ridiculous. In addition, they were not the fastest ships. I think they have done a great advance rising up the velocity of the Gallente boats, but Dominix. Maybe the Hyperion is still slow being a blaster boat. But Dominix is the rare ship in this situation.

+7.5% Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed and Large Hybrid Turret falloff per Level.
+ 7.5% ( +10% would make it fall more inline with the Armageddon E-war bonus that everyone is so concerned about ) bonus to Warp Scrambler and Warp Disruptor range per level.

That is why ( like yourself some pages back ) I suggested ship stats as follows:

The problem of this will be that you will have a cheap copy of an old Minmatar BS, with a Neutron Blaster Cannon II at lvl5 with 13,75 km of Falloff. And less tank as they don't use cap and can use it all for the XL-SB

I don't understand why any Megathron Blaster pilot wouldn't instantly switch to the Hyperion now. Clinging to it, and then complaining that it doesn't do exactly what you wanted it to do or what you now is silly.

I wanted to write a summation of what I think overall most people want:

1) They Hyper is fine but the Rep bonus needs to be changed. I have seen some great ideas such as MWD/AB speed increase, Web Range increase, Scram range increase, or even a Falloff/Optimal range bonus. The current rep bonus really does exclude this ship from fleets and needs to be changed. (if you like a tank bonus just make it have resist bonuses)

2) The Mega it seems that most people really want to have 5 Mids instead over the 8 lows (this will make it able to be fit in ship doctrines). To offset the loss of required 3rd Mag Stab to put the ship back where it was in DPS it will need get back more drones. The new ROF bonus though seems good also comes with huge cap problems and this needs to be addressed along with CPU issues. I have also seen some recommendations about changing the tracking bonus with falloff/optimal bonus and web range bonuses. Simply put, this is the most iconic Gallente ship and really time and effort needs to be made in making it useful. It was the BS that made me want to play the game all those years ago.

3) The Domi, well first I just want to say the hull graphics need to be changed ASAP it is just terrible and many refuse to fly it because of that. The current changes in the Domi really dont work at all. Sniper drone ships don't work because you have to move so much but sentries are stationary. IF you are going to change the bonuses from hybrid turrets the you really need to give it more versatility. I have seen many ideas posted in here but giving a MWD speed bonus is also important, EWAR bonus is needed and possibly giving it a drone repair bonus. I would also remove 2 turret slots (giving it 4 turret slots but still 6 highs) and increasing the drone damage to 15%. This will truly make it a drone boat.


The changes are getting there but we need some more tweaks. I have not seen a Gallente BS in any fleet doctrines that I know of and we need to change this.

1) They Hyper is fine but the Rep bonus needs to be changed. I have seen some great ideas such as MWD/AB speed increase, Web Range increase, Scram range increase, or even a Falloff/Optimal range bonus. The current rep bonus really does exclude this ship from fleets and needs to be changed. (if you like a tank bonus just make it have resist bonuses)

2) The Mega it seems that most people really want to have 5 Mids instead over the 8 lows (this will make it able to be fit in ship doctrines). To offset the loss of required 3rd Mag Stab to put the ship back where it was in DPS it will need get back more drones. The new ROF bonus though seems good also comes with huge cap problems and this needs to be addressed along with CPU issues. I have also seen some recommendations about changing the tracking bonus with falloff/optimal bonus and web range bonuses. Simply put, this is the most iconic Gallente ship and really time and effort needs to be made in making it useful. It was the BS that made me want to play the game all those years ago.

The changes are getting there but we need some more tweaks. I have not seen a Gallente BS in any fleet doctrines that I know of and we need to change this.

Gallente are dependant ( just like the ammar ) on cap to fire so no you can not use it all for XL-SB's and to remove the RoF bonus is good IMO ( making the mega too cap hungry is bad voodoo ).

On the case of fall off I don't see it being such a problem as you are making out, the one thing I have been taking away from this thread is " the mega has a small engagement range " and while the extra 2.3 - 2.4 k fall off for void and 6.7 - 6.8 k fall off for null would help this I don't believe it will brake the game.

Gallente need an 8 weapon BS platform just like all the others ( Maelstrom, Typhoon, Abaddon, Apocalypse, Rokh, post patch ).

Actually, no. No they don't. You are fixated on an arbitrary number that means nothing. They just need a ship with the same amount of effective turrets. What would be ideal is a Gallente BS with only one turret and a ridiculous damage bonus on it - uses less cap, lasts longer overheated, uses less ammo.

I mean that to have a cheap and bad copy of a Minmatar BS you better maintain the role of the Gallente, so you forget, as you have said, the RoF bonus they are thinking to put.

See that all these pages have been to discuss the slots question.

you better give what the people demands in the slots matter and problem solved.

The 8 highs will give the possibility to fit 7 weapons and the utility slot that all the people is talking about being removed in the Mega. Why maintain the 7 weapons system if you now have more speed? For the nerfed damage of the drones.

Actually, no. No they don't. You are fixated on an arbitrary number that means nothing.

Take this personally if you wish, but I'm pointing out that you come across as an unconstructive scrub.

And, suurrre you're a beta player - if you were, you'd have no need to hide behind an alt in a constructive balancing thread

The megathron, as an attack battleship, is going to need more maneuverability and speed to counter being plated. The hyperion, being active armor-tanked combat battleship, will probably be faster than the megathron.

The new Megathron does not stand out to me as being that much more turret focused than the Hyperion.

9.3333 effective turrets vs 9, 50mbit less drones. Shouldn't the Mega be gankier than the Hype?

The Megathron has more effective turrets (although barley) but also has a tracking bonus... This instantly makes it more turret focused than the megathron.

As for the 50m3 less drone bandwidth. This is really the only complaing people are throwing at the new megathron that I agree with, give it 100m3 and I think much of the whining will stop. As for the hyperion, I think it needs to loose the 50m3 of extra drone bay. 125m3/125m3 is perfectly acceptable.