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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:00:00 -
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Watching this thread, and my previous version, with CCP making a token appearance before fading away, I have a feeling CCP will react to this issue similar to how they "reacted" to other past complaints and issues - silence before springing the next shiny! |
Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:22:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Watching this thread, and my previous version, with CCP making a token appearance before fading away, I have a feeling CCP will react to this issue similar to how they "reacted" to other past complaints and issues - silence before springing the next shiny!
I bet you're right. That's cool though. Patience, I'm told, is a virtue.
My suggestion: if you +1'ed for an option to turn off the animation earlier, please come back here every other day and +1 again.
Myself, for some reason, I don't get bored. Like ever. In some ways it's a blessing. Helps with writing code, studying, and such. So I can keep coming back here for the next decade if need be. So long, of course, as there are really others who feel the same way.... Otherwise it's kind of silly and selfish. And that's not the intention at all. From what I've read, most of us are honestly trying to improve our favourite game, not annoy its makers.
Over to you CCP. Please feel free to respond. We'll be here waiting.
Peace. |
Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
18
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Posted - 2013.06.20 18:23:00 -
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c4binfever wrote:I love the new animations. Im not the only person to have a little poop in their pants everytime i jump... right? If your poo poo is missing for some reason one day ... I would be happy to send a bag of vomit as a substitute. Just tell me and I will take 10 quick gate jumps only for you! . . . My gift to you - your lucky beast! . . . |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1028
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Posted - 2013.06.21 08:08:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:Over to you CCP. Please feel free to respond. We'll be here waiting. Peace.
Back to the front page with this. Anything planned before CCP goes en mass on vacation?
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
427
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Posted - 2013.06.21 10:31:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Someone wrote a while back when this animation came out that this was good for immersion because jumping through a 'real' gate at those speeds would cause nausea and headaches etc and if you can't HTFU then you shouldn't be a capsuleer DAMMIT!!111!!!111ELEVENTY. Errrrrrr I think traveling at those speeds IRL would do a lot more than make me want to puke LOL Anyways, for some, it's all about the immersion, baby!!!!
Immersion? That measn that when you get podded you go out on street and throw yourself in front of a speeding car?
Immersion has a LIMIT! And peopel throwing up while playing is over that limit |
Alorae Cloudwalker
Cloudwalker Enterprises
15
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:04:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:Guttripper wrote:Watching this thread, and my previous version, with CCP making a token appearance before fading away, I have a feeling CCP will react to this issue similar to how they "reacted" to other past complaints and issues - silence before springing the next shiny! I bet you're right. That's cool though. Patience, I'm told, is a virtue.
Yes, it is a virtue. Patience was what I had when the Incarna "Greed is Good" debaucle happened, I stuck around, and CCP gave us the station environment back.
But I think this time, I'm not going to wait. NOBODY asked for these graphics additions, or a good deal of the content that was offered with Odyssey.
From what I remember, after Retribution, I think there were quite a few devblogs about a MUCH needed POS/Structure overhaul coming in the next content update, but instead we got a fancy warp tunnel and a scanner that scans whether you want it to or not.
I've still got some time left on my subs, so I'll be patient and train. Not sure what I'll do beyond that. |
Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2013.06.21 17:17:00 -
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Alorae Cloudwalker wrote:I've still got some time left on my subs, so I'll be patient and train. Not sure what I'll do beyond that.
Can I encourage you to keep one account? And to check in once in a while?
If, say, <10% of the player base quit over this, it won't matter much to the company. They will just replace us with noobs who will happily spend a few years mining in high sec or whatever. And the camera swing + halt will be here to stay. On the other hand, if we stay at the top fo the forums until the next expansion, I'm betting that it will eventually get annoying enough to warrant a dialogue.
The more people quit, the weaker our case becomes. The absent are always wrong, as they say.
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Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
18
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Posted - 2013.06.21 21:26:00 -
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Sister Sophia wrote:Alorae Cloudwalker wrote:I've still got some time left on my subs, so I'll be patient and train. Not sure what I'll do beyond that. Can I encourage you to keep one account? And to check in once in a while? If, say, <10% of the player base quit over this, it won't matter much to the company. They will just replace us with noobs who will happily spend a few years mining in high sec or whatever. And the camera swing + halt will be here to stay. On the other hand, if we stay at the top fo the forums until the next expansion, I'm betting that it will eventually get annoying enough to warrant a dialogue. The more people quit, the weaker our case becomes. The absent are always wrong, as they say. Sorry, but i cancel soon my 3 accounts due to lack of update from ccp. 7-14 more days and if no update from ccp I'm out. Creates currently only skill training, this is unsustainable, this is not the manner I want to play eve.. Hope then I can come back sometime over time if the gate jumping annimation become optional or some similar. |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
30
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Posted - 2013.06.21 22:25:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Jimmy Morane wrote:Someone wrote a while back when this animation came out that this was good for immersion because jumping through a 'real' gate at those speeds would cause nausea and headaches etc and if you can't HTFU then you shouldn't be a capsuleer DAMMIT!!111!!!111ELEVENTY. Errrrrrr I think traveling at those speeds IRL would do a lot more than make me want to puke LOL Anyways, for some, it's all about the immersion, baby!!!! Immersion? That measn that when you get podded you go out on street and throw yourself in front of a speeding car? Immersion has a LIMIT! And peopel throwing up while playing is over that limit
I agree with you. I was just repeating someone else's idea of what they think immersion should be; one of those HTFU all-the-time types - while ignoring the issues people have with the animation. |
AligatorVer1337
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.21 23:36:00 -
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Hernan Johuihen wrote:OMGGGGGGG WHY PEOPLE CRY ABOUT EVEEEERYTHING, FFS +1 This man took his time to press shift and write it down. Thanks for that.
New jump animation is just wonderful. Get used to it or try single boxing. |
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Telrei
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.06.22 01:16:00 -
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AligatorVer1337 wrote:
New jump animation is just wonderful. Get used to it or try single boxing.
The tunnel I could care less about like most others here. I am sorry but even on a single box I still have to look away or put my head down after 3-4 jumps due to the spinning....
The spinning for us sorry lot that were born with sensitive inner ears however means we can no longer play the vast majority of this game...... |
destiny2
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.06.22 02:56:00 -
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approaching stargate, jumping weeeeeeeeee awww its over lets do it again. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3723
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Posted - 2013.06.22 03:53:00 -
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Telrei wrote:AligatorVer1337 wrote:New jump animation is just wonderful. Get used to it or try single boxing. The tunnel I could care less about like most others here. I am sorry but even on a single box I still have to look away or put my head down after 3-4 jumps due to the spinning.... The spinning for us sorry lot that were born with sensitive inner ears however means we can no longer play the vast majority of this game...... EVE Online is too hardcore for you There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.06.22 05:30:00 -
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Down with the new jump animation! Down with it! |
AligatorVer1337
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 06:35:00 -
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Telrei wrote:AligatorVer1337 wrote:
New jump animation is just wonderful. Get used to it or try single boxing.
The tunnel I could care less about like most others here. I am sorry but even on a single box I still have to look away or put my head down after 3-4 jumps due to the spinning.... The spinning for us sorry lot that were born with sensitive inner ears however means we can no longer play the vast majority of this game...... Man.. some of us just weren't meant to be spaceship pilots. But you can always be my back up in the station. Hey someone playing the radar specialist isn't as boring as you think! |
Maybelater Headache
Republic University Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2013.06.22 07:01:00 -
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AligatorVer1337 wrote:Man.. some of us just weren't meant to be spaceship pilots. But you can always be my back up in the station. Hey someone playing the radar specialist isn't as boring as you think!
It-¦s always impressive to see an internet tough guy just beeing awesome. |
Absocold
Origin. Black Legion.
4
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Posted - 2013.06.22 08:11:00 -
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+1 for an off button
But what I would really like is an option to turn it off for normal gates but have it on for regional gates. |
Rick Sagan
Dragonfire Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:17:00 -
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I'm a returning player after having been gone for a year, and I'm already at the same point as others have posted. Too sick to play. I'm an "older" player and I think my days of 20+ jump trading are over unless its an AFK journey.
I suppose I could get used to the beginning part -- initial camera swing, and the tunnel, but it's the end part that always makes me wretch. The "zoom up" of the next star system and the end camera swing.
Rick
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Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
196
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:30:00 -
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Rick Sagan wrote:I'm a returning player after having been gone for a year, and I'm already at the same point as others have posted. Too sick to play. I'm an "older" player and I think my days of 20+ jump trading are over unless its an AFK journey. I suppose I could get used to the beginning part -- initial camera swing, and the tunnel, but it's the end part that always makes me wretch. The "zoom up" of the next star system and the end camera swing. Rick
yeah i hate it how i have to zoom out again every damn time i jump throw those damn gates... Why the heck cant camera remember its distance before jump animation.
Also can i have option of fade black and fade back in instead of this tunnel thingy. Looks cool but gets old really fast when your doing a lots of jumping. We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do... |
Yusef Brion
Big Yellow Pidgeon Inc.
2
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Posted - 2013.06.22 11:57:00 -
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Give us the option to turn off the new sickness inducing jump animation.
Also, wait until I ask for a system scan to run the matrix over your beautiful spacescapes.
We just want options. |
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Li Tiger
Deep Space Resources Ltd.
19
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:30:00 -
[771] - Quote
bump ... Sorry but this is front page material! Any update ccp? |
Geralden
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:05:00 -
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Last post from me on this matter.
An option to click any new graphic content OFF, is what's beeing asked for, not "we dont want any changes".
If I didnt want change, i wouldnt play EVE, but a non-online game, where nothing ever changes.
However - since this "update" i really dont have any urge to login anymore, so I dont. It's a major turnoff for me, since i really dont like beeing dizzy because of a feature in the game, that i cannot turn off.
All the changes in the latest update are fail's for me. You nerf the tier 2 battlecruisers to oblivion, then reinstate them as "navy battlecruisers" - im not impressed. The new scanning/probing/exploration system.. it went from a proffesion to... some strange minigame, that offers nothing to EVE online. The jump gate effects are just the final straw for me. EVE is unplayable for me, in the state it's in. As such, im not resubbing - therefore my final post on this, as they run out in an hour.
/o Fly safe
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Jack Ravn
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:14:00 -
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+1 for this option |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
531
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Posted - 2013.06.23 13:45:00 -
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Don't worry all the bugs and problems in Eve will be solved when it dies which according to my calculations is Real SoonGäó. |
Roxxo I'doCocaine
SlammaJammaBamma
23
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Posted - 2013.06.23 15:29:00 -
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So yeah, it's been a few weeks now and I would still like the option of turning off the new jump graphics. They make my system stutter about 3 times during the sequence which breaks the immersion. They're pretty and fun the first couple of times but then the best you can hope for is that you'll stop noticing it entirely, which hasn't been the case. The additional graphics load is definitely slowing things down at exactly the point when .5 seconds of delay can kill you. No wonder CCP had to increase the minimum required specs of the game right after releasing this thing. I imagine it was choking lower-endian systems badly enough to make it unplayable.
THIS GATE JUMP GRAPHIC NEEDS A TOGGLE!
QUIT STANDING AROUND HOLDING ONTO YOURSELVES LIKE YOU HAVE TO PEE AND FIX IT!!!!
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Krazynikomo
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
66
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:22:00 -
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Roxxo I'doCocaine wrote:The additional graphics load is definitely slowing things down at exactly the point when .5 seconds of delay can kill you.
... You know your ship stays cloaked for like, half a minute or something after going through a gate and arriving on the other side, right? If you don't feel confident in your toaster running EVE, just wait a few seconds after going through, and then start worrying about combat. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
341
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:35:00 -
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Dual/Multi Boxing should never be a reason to nerf the game for legit gameplay. I like the pseudo seemless jumping we have now.
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Sister Sophia
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:53:00 -
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Val'Dore wrote:Dual/Multi Boxing should never be a reason to nerf the game for legit gameplay. I like the pseudo seemless jumping we have now.
I don't really blame you for not wanting to read the thread from the beginning. It's a bit long. Then again, it may have been useful at least to skim it before posting.
Myself, I play on a workstation-grade computer with a professional graphics card. I don't multi-box either. So what you say does not apply to me.
So your point, as I understand it, boils down to: what is the problem? Don't nerf my play.
Nobody wants to nerf anything. Mata Hotaki summarized much of what has been said in his post (#587). Here's a quote:
Mata Hotaki wrote: 1. Camera control is taken over by the client. 2. The camera view executes a nausea-inducing arc-and-abrupt-stop movement (main culprit in motion sickness feeling) 3. The "tunnel" animation and the abrupt stop afterwards add to the nauseous feeling 4. These awful effects make both the CPU and GPU run measurably hotter (4-5 degrees, compared to similar activity in Retribution). 5. ...EVE was one of the games that did not give me motion sickness until this last patch. 6. If you like the new animation, good for you. Nobody's trying to take it away from you. Just try to convince me how can choice in this matter be a bad thing.
To this I can add that I just played again for the first time since the patch and I just logged off with a bad headache. This never used to happen. I used to play for hours with no problem. The problems are not hardware-based. They have nothing to do with dual-boxing. They have to do withe the cognitive effects of the swing/jump/halt animation on my poor eyes. And I know I'm not the only one.
Incidentally, there was ample evidence that this would happen based on SiSi feedback. This was however apparently ignored in the design process. Here's that quote once again:
I hope this helps make sense of the thread (once again). |
Aprudena Gist
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.06.23 22:33:00 -
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The fact this stupid ******* animation plays when you are traffic controlled for upto 3 minutes is totally ******* stupid. And it also delays you from using your ship properly unlike the previous mehtod. You can right click in space before the animation is ended and issue commands do your ships aka you are ******* us with stupid useless graphical bullshit again. |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries Dark Stripes
603
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:32:00 -
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Aprudena Gist wrote:The fact this stupid ******* animation plays when you are traffic controlled for upto 3 minutes is totally ******* stupid. And it also delays you from using your ship properly unlike the previous mehtod. You can right click in space before the animation is ended and issue commands do your ships aka you are ******* us with stupid useless graphical bullshit again.
I sat looking at this 'thing' for 16 mins in TiDi in venal yesterday, doing 1 jump... it was so bad.
im sure the only reason the jump took this long is due to this animation OMG when can i get a pic here
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