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Ganandorf
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Posted - 2006.05.29 14:51:00 -
[661]
 Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Sarmaul
no, top tier artillery powergrid needs need lowering. the muninn has no issues fitting autos, just artillery, so it's the artillery that are at fault.
Thats pretty much the thing. As it is then the difference in powergrid requirement between artillery and autocannons is too much. That means that if we want a ship to use artillery we have to give it a lot of grid but that makes it have almost endless grid if you fit the same ship with autocannons.
If I were to do that I would probably need to go over most of the minmatar ships and take back a little bit of grid I gave them almost a year ago.
And yes I'm aware of how hard it it to fit muninn with howitzers, *waits for the inevitable Boost Deimos's grid!!!!1111 reply*
*notes Tux laughing at us ^^*
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.05.30 12:13:00 -
[662]
Originally by: Ganandorf
Originally by: Tuxford
Originally by: Sarmaul
no, top tier artillery powergrid needs need lowering. the muninn has no issues fitting autos, just artillery, so it's the artillery that are at fault.
Thats pretty much the thing. As it is then the difference in powergrid requirement between artillery and autocannons is too much. That means that if we want a ship to use artillery we have to give it a lot of grid but that makes it have almost endless grid if you fit the same ship with autocannons.
If I were to do that I would probably need to go over most of the minmatar ships and take back a little bit of grid I gave them almost a year ago.
And yes I'm aware of how hard it it to fit muninn with howitzers, *waits for the inevitable Boost Deimos's grid!!!!1111 reply*
*notes Tux laughing at us ^^*
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.05.30 12:15:00 -
[663]
He posted in another thread that he'd look into it. So in a year or two we'll hear the deimos isn't getting any loving, but the vagabond had it's speed boosted. 
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.05.30 12:24:00 -
[664]
Originally by: Gariuys
He posted in another thread that he'd look into it. So in a year or two we'll hear the deimos isn't getting any loving, but the vagabond had it's speed boosted.
Heh, well Tux if you're reading this - stop posting in other threads and post in this one for once dammit!
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Rambo Armsdealer
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Posted - 2006.05.30 12:27:00 -
[665]
Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Gariuys
He posted in another thread that he'd look into it. So in a year or two we'll hear the deimos isn't getting any loving, but the vagabond had it's speed boosted.
Heh, well Tux if you're reading this - stop posting in other threads and post in this one for once dammit!
amen
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Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.05.31 09:45:00 -
[666]
You all complain too much, the Deimos is very easy to fit, you just have to train up skills.
With ALL skills at lvl5 you can easily fit:
5x Ion blaster II
1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II
1x Medium Armor Repairer II
8x empty slot
Or if you want to go extreme, the following setup is a bit tight but FITS, thanks to the recent blaster changes:
5x Neutron Blaster II
1x Medium Armor Repairer II
9x empty slot
and you still have 2.0 powergrid to play with !!
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Asurix
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:12:00 -
[667]
Originally by: Miklas Laces
You all complain too much, the Deimos is very easy to fit, you just have to train up skills.
With ALL skills at lvl5 you can easily fit:
5x Ion blaster II
1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II
1x Medium Armor Repairer II
8x empty slot
Or if you want to go extreme, the following setup is a bit tight but FITS, thanks to the recent blaster changes:
5x Neutron Blaster II
1x Medium Armor Repairer II
9x empty slot
and you still have 2.0 powergrid to play with !!
sarcasm ftw
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Tuxford
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:18:00 -
[668]
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
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Asurix
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:25:00 -
[669]
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
praise! finally Dash we've made it hehe
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:26:00 -
[670]
Edited by: KilROCK on 31/05/2006 10:26:42
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
Next patch, Deimos gets a missile hardpoint.
Petwraith ♥ me. I make sigs |
Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:30:00 -
[671]
you are secretly training caldari already anyways, admit it Kilrock 
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Paigan
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:33:00 -
[672]
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
hurray!
after pretty exactely 6 months of pleading and discussing, there is light at the end of the tunnel!
Thx very much, Tux =)
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:34:00 -
[673]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
you are secretly training caldari already anyways, admit it Kilrock
Hell no, I might get Caldari battleship 4 when the tier 3 battleships comes out, to use t2 rail/blasters on it, but that's about it 
Petwraith ♥ me. I make sigs |
Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:36:00 -
[674]
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 31/05/2006 10:26:42
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
Next patch, Deimos gets a missile hardpoint.
If that happens, I'm 100% positive every deimos pilot would drop a freighterload of void in Tuxfords belly... so doubt he'll do that. ;-)
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:42:00 -
[675]
Originally by: Gariuys
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 31/05/2006 10:26:42
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
Next patch, Deimos gets a missile hardpoint.
If that happens, I'm 100% positive every deimos pilot would drop a freighterload of void in Tuxfords belly... so doubt he'll do that. ;-)
You're right, Zealot is due for one tho. Cmon tux, cmon cmon cmon!
Petwraith ♥ me. I make sigs |
Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:06:00 -
[676]
Originally by: Kunming
Another point is deimos has a bonus to cover a penalty, which is not really a bonus compared to what the other HACs have.. MWD cap penalty reduction!!
AND,
which is even more important, you still get a penalty for your cap (-6% or so) so in the end it doesnt get a bonus but a reduction in a penalty thats not even lifted completely while other HACs DO get a bonus.
ADD TO THIS
The fact its slower than a thorax, gets out dmged by longer range HACs and there is no reason to fly a deimos over a thorax, a zealot or a vagabond.
So will the DEVs finally have a look at this ship or is Tuxford too busy thinking how to nerf gallente more I heard there is a drone nerf coming, fix the god damn bugs on the drones first..
The reduction IS a bonus. Otherwise, all Amarrian ships only get 1 bonus, and the 10% cap reduction for laser turrets is just a joke?
A bonus is something that increases something.. and going from -500 to -250 is still an increase.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:20:00 -
[677]
A bonus makes soemthing better. That's true, but NOT fitting a mwd is better for your cap then do fitting it. So in that way, is it really a bonus? Not that I don't like it, but it's also a extremely limited bonus, cause if you don't fit a mwd, there is no bonus.
~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~
A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX
The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
FFGR
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Posted - 2006.05.31 11:42:00 -
[678]
And without an MWD, how will you close in the enemy ? With an AB ?
MWD bonus is there so your cap for a needed module doesn't kill your tank.
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Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:05:00 -
[679]
Originally by: FFGR
And without an MWD, how will you close in the enemy ? With an AB ?
MWD bonus is there so your cap for a needed module doesn't kill your tank.
What about changing the bonus to a Mwd/AB bonus ?
Something like 5% less penalty to max cap for MWD and 5% bonus to AB speed boost.
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R'adeh
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:07:00 -
[680]
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
\o/ o// \\o \o_ _o/
PS: I want my sig back!!!!
"blah blah, we killed you, blah blah, they killed us, blah blah, some more smack blah blah, killboard..."
CCP Cortes stole my sig!!! |
Jerick Ludhowe
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:22:00 -
[681]
Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: FFGR
And without an MWD, how will you close in the enemy ? With an AB ?
MWD bonus is there so your cap for a needed module doesn't kill your tank.
What about changing the bonus to a Mwd/AB bonus ?
Something like 5% less penalty to max cap for MWD and 5% bonus to AB speed boost.
I'd rather they just drop the -25% from MWDs and give the thorax line of ships a 5% to mwd max velocity bonuss.
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Harper04
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Posted - 2006.05.31 12:48:00 -
[682]
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: FFGR
And without an MWD, how will you close in the enemy ? With an AB ?
MWD bonus is there so your cap for a needed module doesn't kill your tank.
What about changing the bonus to a Mwd/AB bonus ?
Something like 5% less penalty to max cap for MWD and 5% bonus to AB speed boost.
I'd rather they just drop the -25% from MWDs and give the thorax line of ships a 5% to mwd max velocity bonuss.
Go pod yourself.
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:20:00 -
[683]
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
yarrbbq?
------ Originally by: Gazon
In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Miklas Laces
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:41:00 -
[684]
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
I'd rather they just drop the -25% from MWDs and give the thorax line of ships a 5% to mwd max velocity bonuss.
Yes!!!
and +5% rof to snowball launcher instead of the useless hybrid damage bonus.
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.05.31 14:15:00 -
[685]
Edited by: Breed Love on 31/05/2006 14:15:01
Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
I'd rather they just drop the -25% from MWDs and give the thorax line of ships a 5% to mwd max velocity bonuss.
Yes!!!
and +5% rof to snowball launcher instead of the useless hybrid damage bonus.
/signed!
edit: and deimos's second damage bonus should then be changed into 5% to snowball damage!
------ Originally by: Gazon
In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Toshiro Khan
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Posted - 2006.05.31 14:16:00 -
[686]
Originally by: Miklas Laces
Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe
I'd rather they just drop the -25% from MWDs and give the thorax line of ships a 5% to mwd max velocity bonuss.
Yes!!!
and +5% rof to snowball launcher instead of the useless hybrid damage bonus.
and lets not forget a 1% rof bonus to capital siege launchers on the deimos as well, instead of that silly fall off bonus.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.06.01 02:10:00 -
[687]
Originally by: Tuxford
Wow long thread. If it makes you feel any better then I've noticed it and I'll look into it.
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:04:00 -
[688]
BUT BUT BUT WITH DUAL RCU2'S U CAN FIT 5X NEUTRONS AND 3 DMG MODS!
..yea plz look at the deimos :(
Carrier & Fighter Sales |
Kai Lae
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:28:00 -
[689]
I'll be happy if I can fit 5 electrons w/ cap booster, med nos, med rep, and MWD without a RCU..as this is now impossible.
Raptor and Ares Fix |
dralid
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Posted - 2006.06.01 09:31:00 -
[690]
Originally by: Kunming
You can not even fit full rack of heavy ion blasters on a deimos, the change on the neutrons will only effect the brutix...
[:ugh:
->
Uhmm, I have it set up like this, Heavy Ion Blaster II
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