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Damis Zohar
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:05:00 -
[1141]
 Originally by: Doc Banshee
Invest in some faction gear and get your deimos capable of solopwn again.
high:
5x t2 ion - null/void
mids:
1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x t2 24km scram, 1x TS medium cap booster
Lows:
2x SS mag field stab, 2x EAN II, 1x Exp II hardner 1x 'meditation' medium armor repairer
Rigs:
2x Polycarbon engine housing
It works for me, and packs a serious punch
Damage mod 11,004something, RoF 2,71
\\Doc._B
Do you use webber drones ? and if not how do you hit anything without a web?
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Doc Banshee
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.01 13:12:00 -
[1142]
Edited by: Doc Banshee on 01/02/2007 13:13:32
Yeah, forgot to add webber drones :)
With a deimos, you have to be very selective about what to attack (unless youre in a small gang, then youre the juggernaut).
Dont rush out, attacking the first hostile you see. Use your brain, and use the deimos for what it was meant to. Insane amounts of damage, in a very very short time.
\\Doc._B
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Shay Ezra
Caldari
drunk and disorderly
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Posted - 2007.02.02 06:28:00 -
[1143]
this thread does look alot better on the 1st page.
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:05:00 -
[1144]
Originally by: Doc Banshee
mids:
1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x t2 24km scram, 1x TS medium cap booster
Lows:
2x SS mag field stab, 2x EAN II, 1x Exp II hardner 1x 'meditation' medium armor repairer
Hm, i don't get that. Why don't you suggest faction-hardeners/membranes too? And last i checked SS MFS wasn't all that uber. Well at least i think so. So could you tell me why you put it this way? Thx
And btw: how expensive is this stuff in summary?
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Great Artista
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:09:00 -
[1145]
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Doc Banshee
mids:
1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x t2 24km scram, 1x TS medium cap booster
Lows:
2x SS mag field stab, 2x EAN II, 1x Exp II hardner 1x 'meditation' medium armor repairer
Hm, i don't get that. Why don't you suggest faction-hardeners/membranes too? And last i checked SS MFS wasn't all that uber. Well at least i think so. So could you tell me why you put it this way? Thx
And btw: how expensive is this stuff in summary?
CPU problem maybe?
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Dragy
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:35:00 -
[1146]
Originally by: Great Artista
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Doc Banshee
mids:
1x SS 10mn mwd, 1x t2 24km scram, 1x TS medium cap booster
Lows:
2x SS mag field stab, 2x EAN II, 1x Exp II hardner 1x 'meditation' medium armor repairer
Hm, i don't get that. Why don't you suggest faction-hardeners/membranes too? And last i checked SS MFS wasn't all that uber. Well at least i think so. So could you tell me why you put it this way? Thx
And btw: how expensive is this stuff in summary?
CPU problem maybe?
Faction stuff requires less cpu than t2 ...
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Doc Banshee
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:38:00 -
[1147]
The reason for not using factionhardners is the price and cpu limits. The only thing worth switching to is Dark blood active explosive hardner - which gives you more cpu to work with.
Switching to Deadspace EAN's will just make your loss even more annoying (lets face it, you WILL die at some point)
But the prices are something like this
Deimos: 120m
5x Heavy ion blaster II 1,2m
Warp Disruptor II 25m
True Sansha Cap booster: 25-35m
Shadow Serpentis 10mn mwd: 40-70m
'meditation' medium armor: 35-65m
Shadow Serpentis Mag stab: 35-50m
EAN II 10m
Armor explosive hardner 7m
Polycarbon: 20-35m
So deimos + fitting is somewhere around 500m.
Now add a lg slave set (for extra armor, when tanking those sentries)
Thats another 400m or something.
Relevant implants 2-300m
Total 1 / 1,2bn
If you can afford it, go for it. Its really fun to cruise around in a gold coffin :)
\\Doc._B
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:38:00 -
[1148]
Just fly an astarte, 1 Deimos costs the same as an Astarte, so trade it in
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Doc Banshee
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:43:00 -
[1149]
Edited by: Doc Banshee on 02/02/2007 11:40:14
I would, if I could :)
Astarte is my next project.
\\Doc._B
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:48:00 -
[1150]
Originally by: Doc Banshee
Total 1 / 1,2bn
If you can afford it, go for it. Its really fun to cruise around in a gold coffin :)
\\Doc._B
Well, i can't afford it. I was just curious. 1 bill w/o deadspace EANM. It's not a big of a difference to get those too, is it? ;)
@Bazzman: This thread is not about astarte or w/e. It's about deimos so plz keep it on topic.
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Sherpondeldey
Minmatar
SolaR KillerS
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:50:00 -
[1151]
\o/ i am in gallente whinners thread again!
deimos is good as it is. at least you can try to fly in pvp. cerberus has no chance
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nerf EOS! nerf large blasters!
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Doc Banshee
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 11:50:00 -
[1152]
2x Deadspace EAN's is another 4-500m.. at least :)
\\Doc._B
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Riho
Red Wrath
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.02 14:04:00 -
[1153]
Originally by: Bazman
Just fly an astarte, 1 Deimos costs the same as an Astarte, so trade it in
hehe :P
training for it allredy... not long to go (10 days or so :) )
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars Caelestis
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 16:41:00 -
[1154]
Originally by: Doc Banshee
Edited by: Doc Banshee on 02/02/2007 11:40:14
I would, if I could :)
Astarte is my next project.
\\Doc._B
Things that go against the Deimos, falloff bonus needs to be doubled to be actually usefull on a Hybrid boat. As it stands a 250 rail II gets 6km(base) more falloff range at HAC level 5, hooray for 6km!!
PvP ship with ONLY 3 mid slots, lots of choices here.....
Lets make a short range blaster ship with a MWD bonus be as fast as a Battleship.. 170m/s FTL.
Adding to this lets give the ship a signature radius of a school bus so when you chug along at 1500m/s at your target he can laugh at your moon sized sig..
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Brutix > Deimos in most(99%)of situations, Battlecruiser lvl 2 outdamages HAC lvl 5.
1 extra low/high/and mid slot, still has more cap w/o the MWD bonus and doesnt cost 135+ million when you lose it.
I myself have sold my Deimos and am patiently waiting for the Astarte.
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Rastigan
Caldari
Ars Caelestis
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.02 16:47:00 -
[1155]
In case anyone actually read the above. mistyped the extra low slot, Brutix is 7h/4m/5l..
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Bazman
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.02 17:44:00 -
[1156]
Originally by: Djerin
Originally by: Doc Banshee
Total 1 / 1,2bn
If you can afford it, go for it. Its really fun to cruise around in a gold coffin :)
\\Doc._B
Well, i can't afford it. I was just curious. 1 bill w/o deadspace EANM. It's not a big of a difference to get those too, is it? ;)
@Bazzman: This thread is not about astarte or w/e. It's about deimos so plz keep it on topic.
If you read the thread, you'll see me on every second page or thereabouts campaigning for the Deimos. This thread is now a year old, do you really think it will be sorted now? Its time to say "Screw it!" and move on to something that is just as manueverable and agile as the Deimos (lol) and is much better at the job.
Go Astarte!
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.02.02 18:57:00 -
[1157]
Originally by: Bazman
Its time to say "Screw it!" and move on to something that is just as manueverable and agile as the Deimos (lol) and is much better at the job.
Go Astarte!
No i don't want to screw it! I fly both and i know astarte is better by any means. Except for sexyness.
I'd really like to see a slight improvement. Like more speed, or just less weight/more agility. I like the deimos. It doesn't suck. It's just not very versatile the way it is.
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Sadist
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.02 19:12:00 -
[1158]
Actually it does suck, for it requires at least 4 key components to operate effectively.
1. Not being shot at
2. Not being webbed
3. Not being nossed
4. Not being EWed.
Not very versatile is just a euphemism for a pile of garbage. And the devs inability to bring blasters up to par with other weapons is just disappointing. 
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Quote:
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Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.02.02 19:15:00 -
[1159]
Originally by: Sadist
Actually it does suck, for it requires at least 4 key components to operate effectively.
1. Not being shot at
2. Not being webbed
3. Not being nossed
4. Not being EWed.
Not very versatile is just a euphemism for a pile of garbage. And the devs inability to bring blasters up to par with other weapons is just disappointing.
My thoughts exactly.
Blasters need more dmg or less cap use..
Deimos needs more from everything, though speed, pg and/or a better slot layout or bonus would be a start.
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.02.02 19:21:00 -
[1160]
Give the deimos 1 more midslot 
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Durethia
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.02.02 20:09:00 -
[1161]
With Rigs... there's less of a PG issue than before. But, with T1 PG rigs, you still can't fit 5 Heavy Neutron IIs and a T2 Medium NOS along with all other modules appropriately filled; MWD, Medium Armor Rep, tank etc.
What the Deimos needs is Speed. It's pretty slow, and for it's role it's simply not fast enough.
The Deimos should not be too far behind a Vagabond in regards to agility. To keep with the expectations and bennies of all races, I do not think the Deimos needs any more top end speed. What it does need, is enourmous boost in agility.
The Deimos should be able to reach it's top speed faster than any other HAC (Vagabonds included). But, it's top speed should remain what it currently is.
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Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.02.03 00:32:00 -
[1162]
Originally by: Durethia
With Rigs... there's less of a PG issue than before. But, with T1 PG rigs, you still can't fit 5 Heavy Neutron IIs and a T2 Medium NOS along with all other modules appropriately filled; MWD, Medium Armor Rep, tank etc.
What the Deimos needs is Speed. It's pretty slow, and for it's role it's simply not fast enough.
The Deimos should not be too far behind a Vagabond in regards to agility. To keep with the expectations and bennies of all races, I do not think the Deimos needs any more top end speed. What it does need, is enourmous boost in agility.
The Deimos should be able to reach it's top speed faster than any other HAC (Vagabonds included). But, it's top speed should remain what it currently is.
To achieve that they'll have to increase agility modifier, which means with a couple i-stabs its gonna be faster than the vaga.
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Alterari Phoenix
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.02.04 07:44:00 -
[1163]
The Deimos is a great combat ship but it has major problems against any ship that can change it's damage, but it can still kill them.... if it can get within range, heres how i see it. a deimos is supposed to be a blasterboat but unless you are at a gate camp sitting at your optimal you are pretty much dead, the mwd gives it enough speed to be within range in time to die from a barrage of missles/lasers/projectiles/drones and everything else you can shoot out of a cannon.
Problem: range/speed/cap/cpu
solution: un-gimp the deimos 
The One Who is considered smart by others is usually dumb and the excluded loser in the corner is usually the smartest of the lot!!!!! |
Zemeckis R
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Posted - 2007.02.04 09:11:00 -
[1164]
Originally by: Kunming
Originally by: Sadist
Actually it does suck, for it requires at least 4 key components to operate effectively.
1. Not being shot at
2. Not being webbed
3. Not being nossed
4. Not being EWed.
Not very versatile is just a euphemism for a pile of garbage. And the devs inability to bring blasters up to par with other weapons is just disappointing.
My thoughts exactly.
Blasters need more dmg or less cap use..
Deimos needs more from everything, though speed, pg and/or a better slot layout or bonus would be a start.
quote ftw
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SEN 5243
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Posted - 2007.02.04 11:04:00 -
[1165]
The deimos needs a little bit more powergrid and more speed.
Fix this ship please,thx.
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Ihar Enda
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.02.04 13:28:00 -
[1166]
Fix the Deimos already. 
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Pord
Caldari
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:13:00 -
[1167]
Deimos is crying to be fixed!
Speed and agility of a BS with a powergid that is frankly laughable when you try to fit it all up.
You'd think after so many post and people crying for it to be fixed it would have been by now
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
Riggers Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.05 14:13:00 -
[1168]
Originally by: Pord
You'd think after so many post and people crying for it to be fixed it would have been by now
Spoiled children cry, if the car they got was in the wrong color. Are you such a child?
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.05 14:34:00 -
[1169]
Speed and Agility....
I could write a 40 page essay on the speed and agility issues of the deimos or it's grid but truth be told the 5, 10 or maybe who knows even 20% boost that Tuxford might ever give to those attributes ain't gonna really matter. It's not gonna matter cause the main problem with the deimos are the counters to it are freaking easy and common.
Who brings a 3 med slot blaster boat to a fight anyway?
The deimos has one use and that's the rail setup for very specific gang warfare, you could add 50% more agility and speed it would still fail as a blastership imho.
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.02.05 16:30:00 -
[1170]
i guess the problem is the double damage bonus, there may be a fear it could easily be overpowered.
however-
1. look at the astarte, can easily fit neutrons with similar damage bonus (noones saying its overpowered).
2. everyone knows what the deimos inherent weakness is.
so increase agility and pg (a bit0 and it will be fine.
Before complaining about any ship try flying Minmatar |
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