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DarkXenon
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Posted - 2007.05.22 20:40:00 -
[1231]
/Signed
More PG
More Cap
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:03:00 -
[1232]
People need to invent the deimos more, imo cerberus is way way better hac than deimos. Still the deimos is 30% more expensive...
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Ronin Reborn
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.05.22 22:48:00 -
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People won't invent Deimos over Cerb because most people buy something other than Deimos because...*points to rest of thread*
/signed for agility boost and mass decrease
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.05.22 23:01:00 -
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funny how the designers goal was to make a uber dedicated blaster HAC but totaly forgot speed was important to the point it ended up the slowest of all HACs. I think that says everything. Also noticed the signature is larger than a Thorax?
Changes Needed
+15-20 m/s
+a bit of power grid
I think -1 low and +1 mid would also be cool.
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FlamingErictilePhaillicy
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:19:00 -
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The deimos is fine as it is. Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
lets face it, its got the power grid to fit gank or tank, and sure its not the fastest cruiser but it sure as hell is the most damaging one. Any buff to this ship, and it will be broken. Why would anyone fly anything else if the deimos outdamages it and is faster....
The deimos is awesome in a gang, its really not meant for solo work as far as I can tell, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry its not another I-Win gallente boat, but you guys can live with it.
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KD.Fluffy
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.05.23 04:19:00 -
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The deimos is fine as it is. Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
lets face it, its got the power grid to fit gank or tank, and sure its not the fastest cruiser but it sure as hell is the most damaging one. Any buff to this ship, and it will be broken. Why would anyone fly anything else if the deimos outdamages it and is faster....
The deimos is awesome in a gang, its really not meant for solo work as far as I can tell, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry its not another I-Win gallente boat, but you guys can live with it.
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.05.23 13:31:00 -
[1237]
 Originally by: FlamingErictilePhaillicy
The deimos is fine as it is. Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
lets face it, its got the power grid to fit gank or tank, and sure its not the fastest cruiser but it sure as hell is the most damaging one. Any buff to this ship, and it will be broken. Why would anyone fly anything else if the deimos outdamages it and is faster....
The deimos is awesome in a gang, its really not meant for solo work as far as I can tell, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry its not another I-Win gallente boat, but you guys can live with it.
Your cerberus isn't fitting guns with 5km optimal. Also, take a long, hard look at tracking on blasters.
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Orga Azmaat
Minmatar
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2007.05.23 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Orga Azmaat on 23/05/2007 14:09:30
Edited by: Orga Azmaat on 23/05/2007 14:08:42
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
I think -1 low and +1 mid would also be cool.
/signed. It realy needs cap injector.
Deimos is cool until someone decides to put web and large nosf on you ( yeah, and stupid "bonus on MWD penalty" won't save your cap ). After what, it is a flying grave.
Deimos suxx fly nanobrutix 
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Skrypt
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.05.23 18:26:00 -
[1239]
More speed and agility.
kthxbye.
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Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Cadien Cybernetics
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Posted - 2007.05.23 18:54:00 -
[1240]
Originally by: FlamingErictilePhaillicy
Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
Caracal: 187m/s? Cerberus: 185 m/s?
I really hope you don't want to call that slow. What do these two ships need the speed for anyway? Tactical maneuvering?
Ok, sorry for that. But it really isn't like missile boats would have to get close or care about tracking etc.
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nakKEDK
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Posted - 2007.05.24 08:58:00 -
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caldari ships doesnt need speed they have missiles and tank. missiles just fly fly fly and they hit. deimos and most other gallente ships need to mwd and use cap, until they reach target
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dralid
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.05.24 09:04:00 -
[1242]
The cap is not that big of an issue, because once nossed, it doesn't matter anymore if u have 1200 or 1400 cap :)
More agility/less mass and a little extra base speed is what matters, thats actually all, and that will not overpower the ship, but make it usable, and not the brick as it is today.
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starbuck1979
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:09:00 -
[1243]
/Signed for more speed an agility
i love my Betty, but forget to turn that MWD off at the right time and its a lovely tour of the current system you are in 
Devs please read this, we pay to play and when you have a 42 page forum post i think you should consider looking at it and replying to the people who contribute to your wages.
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Endariel
Gallente
Elite Storm Enterprises
Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:30:00 -
[1244]
/signed Speed/Agility
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n0thing
omen.
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Posted - 2007.05.24 11:55:00 -
[1245]
Originally by: Raem Civrie
Originally by: FlamingErictilePhaillicy
The deimos is fine as it is. Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
lets face it, its got the power grid to fit gank or tank, and sure its not the fastest cruiser but it sure as hell is the most damaging one. Any buff to this ship, and it will be broken. Why would anyone fly anything else if the deimos outdamages it and is faster....
The deimos is awesome in a gang, its really not meant for solo work as far as I can tell, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry its not another I-Win gallente boat, but you guys can live with it.
Your cerberus isn't fitting guns with 5km optimal. Also, take a long, hard look at tracking on blasters.
Moreover, Deimos described as a 'best close-up-and-personal' comabt vessel. So, whats the point if its half-dead before it can even hits its target?
Even if not slot switch, then around 20m/s speed increase or more, depending on whats max possible speed of it not counting implant sets/faction stuff. And agility of about 25% less then Vagabond got.
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MasterDecoy
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.13 11:09:00 -
[1246]
*nudge*
and WOW that's an old thread... 
Originally by: Lavinrac Krad
Quit comparing Eve to the John Holmes of MMORPGs
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Lore Isander
Caldari
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.13 11:39:00 -
[1247]
Originally by: MasterDecoy
*nudge*
and WOW that's an old thread...
Because CCP doesnt care 
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Mundem Pashdale
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.13 12:01:00 -
[1248]
It may look great, but it consistantly falls under it's stated purpose as a blaster ship. It realy needs some more love, especialy on speed and agility
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.06.13 12:02:00 -
[1249]
/Signed
More agility and less mass.
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Xoduse
Gallente
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:25:00 -
[1250]
Give it more agility and less mass to help it fulfill its role!
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Talon Calais
Gallente
Nubs.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:37:00 -
[1251]
For the amount that the ship costs, I'd rather get an Astarte or Eos.
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Ione Hunt
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.06.13 16:42:00 -
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The only reason why anyone who's able to fly an Astarte would ever consider flying a Deimos is because of speed/agility...and guess what, the difference in agility/speed between the 2 ships is negligeable
ergo: why fly a Deimos apart from enjoying it's cool looks?
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:33:00 -
[1253]
I'd say we don't even need more speed for the Deimos. It just needs to reach max velocity earlier, like after 1 cycle. So nothing needed but agility increase and mass reduction.
Althoug a reduction of mass wouldn't quite fit RP wise tbh. And we should keep in mind, that a Vigilant needs to be more agile and less heavy than a Deimos (i mean it's half Matar, isn't it?). So if there really was a fix to the Deimos i think there could be a need to check the Vigilant too.
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Captain Zanarkand
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:40:00 -
[1254]
/Signed...definitly need more cpu and pg
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KD.Fluffy
The Refugees
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Posted - 2007.06.13 17:55:00 -
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wow, the gallente whine lobby is amazing. The deimos is fine as it is. ITs the most damaging cruiser in the game. Im sorry you have trouble fitting it. Every other HAC pilot runs into fitting issues as well. So makea decision with your deimos. Fit it for full tank or fit it for full gank. Its not a tanking hac, So I suggest you get a good gank with some EW support and fit it for full gank. Hell if have a lachesis flying with you, you can probably kill most targets before they even get a lock on you!  I fail to see what the problem is.
You don't see eagle pilots whith a 40 page whine thread that they can't tackle targets from 250km away...... us eagel pilots need a 250km scrambler.
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K'reemy G'udness
Gallente
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.06.13 18:11:00 -
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/signed - more PG/CPU
This thread is as old as me! 
Sincerely,
K'reemy
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Evolyze
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.13 19:08:00 -
[1257]
I love this ship, it deals nice damage and has an ok tank, with rigs mainly the power grid increasing one, i have found it possible to fit everything i want, with heavy ion II's or could have a set of electrons + nice tank.
It could do with alittle more speed and agility, as it is ment to get in close to deal its damage, but other then that i can't see whats wrong.
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Aston Gulliver
Gallente
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.13 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Evolyze
I love this ship, it deals nice damage and has an ok tank, with rigs mainly the power grid increasing one, i have found it possible to fit everything i want, with heavy ion II's or could have a set of electrons + nice tank.
It could do with alittle more speed and agility, as it is ment to get in close to deal its damage, but other then that i can't see whats wrong.
Can you give us your fitting and what you use the ship for?
Its sad that I have top notch fitting skills and still have to fit an RCu or power grid rig to fit a full rack of tech II ions. I mean come on, I could understand neutrons, but ions? Please...
/signed for the umpteenth billion time. I would love to actually fly this ship into some real PVP combat. Until it gets a little help its staying in dry dock.
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Atij Gulliver
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Posted - 2007.06.13 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: KD.Fluffy
The deimos is fine as it is. Its funny to see the gallente crying about a 'slow' ship.... try flying a caldari ship and then complain.
lets face it, its got the power grid to fit gank or tank, and sure its not the fastest cruiser but it sure as hell is the most damaging one. Any buff to this ship, and it will be broken. Why would anyone fly anything else if the deimos outdamages it and is faster....
The deimos is awesome in a gang, its really not meant for solo work as far as I can tell, and there is nothing wrong with that. I'm sorry its not another I-Win gallente boat, but you guys can live with it.
Do you actually fly the deimos? Hmm... We aren't asking for vagabond speed, just a tad more speed and a tad more agility. A decent vaga pilot will always win 1 on 1 with a deimos, and a tad more agility and speed wouldn't change that. What it would do is encourage all the deimos pilots to actually PVP in the boat. Lets face it, 300 mil ISK on a ship that has to get within 10k of any ship to function properly and can't turn or accelerate worth **** is gonna stay docked up.
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MasterDecoy
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.14 05:19:00 -
[1260]
Originally by: KD.Fluffy
wow, the gallente whine lobby is amazing. The deimos is fine as it is. ITs the most damaging cruiser in the game. Im sorry you have trouble fitting it. Every other HAC pilot runs into fitting issues as well. So makea decision with your deimos. Fit it for full tank or fit it for full gank. Its not a tanking hac, So I suggest you get a good gank with some EW support and fit it for full gank. Hell if have a lachesis flying with you, you can probably kill most targets before they even get a lock on you! I fail to see what the problem is.
You don't see eagle pilots whith a 40 page whine thread that they can't tackle targets from 250km away...... us eagel pilots need a 250km scrambler.
actually. the gallente, while being blessed with great ships have, by quite a fair margin, the worst HACs.
it's debatable of course. 
Originally by: Lavinrac Krad
Quit comparing Eve to the John Holmes of MMORPGs
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