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Zaldoza
Caldari Holographic MindWare Constructions
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:10:00 -
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On the escrow market
Zaldoc...Miner Zaldoza..Mission Runner
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wrecker300
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Posted - 2006.10.15 08:30:00 -
[302]
all these set ups make interesting and helpfull reading, but i am surprised to see that nobody is using warp core stabs as i beleive there are warp scrammers in alot of the lvl 4s... i am just about to start doing the lvl 4s and the scrammers have been my main concerne... could people please enlighten me as to why they r not used and any advise on dealing with the scrammers would be much apreciated... cheers
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Colomor
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Posted - 2006.10.15 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: wrecker300 all these set ups make interesting and helpfull reading, but i am surprised to see that nobody is using warp core stabs as i beleive there are warp scrammers in alot of the lvl 4s... i am just about to start doing the lvl 4s and the scrammers have been my main concerne... could people please enlighten me as to why they r not used and any advise on dealing with the scrammers would be much apreciated... cheers
Because by the time you are ready to do lvl 4s you should be able to do your research on the mission, figure out which npcs scramble. Armed with that knowledge you can make a decision wheather to simply send only your drones to deal with the scramblers or if it looks like you might have to warp out due to severe dps to help the drones with your own missiles.
General school of thought is that those wcs slots should be used for BCUs or PDS and that one should rely on the knowledge of the mission to deal with scrambling npcs.
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Deadly Fox
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Posted - 2006.10.15 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Deadly Fox on 15/10/2006 14:43:48 How do I know which ships will warp scram?
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wrecker300
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Posted - 2006.10.15 16:49:00 -
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yo fox.... go to the eve info web pages and they give u a complete run down on what ur up against and what to fire and protect against...
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Don Mavro
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Posted - 2006.10.21 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Alexander Knott With all the talk about using t1 cruise missiles from t2 launchers, I tried cruise missiles out again. Battlecruisers would sometimes take 3 volleys because of defenders taking out just enough cruise missiles to leave them a sliver of life, even with 3 BCS fitted. Cruisers were not noticably faster than the torpedoes when you count in number of volleys. Of course, it was very nice to not have to bother with the painter or have the long wait for the missiles to impact. Still, all in all, I think I'm sticking with t1 torps from arbalest launchers for now.
BCS doesn't affect defender hit rate that much. Velocity is more important in this case. If velocity of misiiles pass 7500m/sec barier nothing can't stop them. Train caldari BS and missile projection to lvl 5 or use 3% velocity imp and watch how defenders flying around and can't hit anything :)
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AFTRUNX
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Posted - 2006.10.23 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: AFTRUNX on 23/10/2006 22:06:45 Edited by: AFTRUNX on 23/10/2006 22:05:54 does someone have a fitting with:
High: T2 Siege, 2x Heavy Dimi. Med: XL Booster, Boost Amp., Target Painter, 3 Hardeners Low: 3x PDS II, 2x BCS II
Wonderind if this fitting is possible and what are the skill requirements..
thx AFTRUNX
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Khronoz
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Posted - 2006.10.24 03:11:00 -
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My Raven setup:
H: 6x siege T2, 1 x Knave Heavy Nos (last slot empty) M: 1 x Shield Boost Amp, 1 x Named L Booster, 4 x T2 Shield Hardeners (dmg specific) L: 3 x PDU2, 2 x BCU I
Not enough CPU for T2 BCU. Adv Weap Upgr 4.
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Vetraband
Amarr Gods Warriors
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Posted - 2006.10.29 09:02:00 -
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Edited by: Vetraband on 29/10/2006 09:05:00
hi all, me personally i use,
high - 5 t2 cruise , 2 arbalast cruise , 2 e500 nos mids - 1x faction invunerability field , 1x faction XL shield booster, 4 t2 rat specific hardeners (pushes all resistances above 90%(i use t1 missiles on mission 4's nad not t2 as they (damage) drain the cap too fast)) lows - 1x internal force field array (damage control) , 4x t2 pdu.
if i use 6 t2 launchers i use 1 faction co-processor and drop a t2 pdu but as i mentioned the cap has a real bad time handling the cap drain rate of when you need to use the xl shield booster ... better with 4 t2 and 2 arbs as cap rate is sustainable over much longer time period .
i also use t2 mid drones , but i never launch them until i have "attracted" all attention from npc's ... then i send them out to kill off all the nice litte frigs that are swarming around me and scrambling and webbing me
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:28:00 -
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Raven
highs: 6x arbalest siege, 1x heavy 1x med dim nos meds: gist c-type SB, gist b-type SBA, 4x rat specific gist b-type hardeners lows: 2x bcu-II 2x pdu-II
5x small and 5x large rat specific drones
tank runs forever even without the nos. its a way too expensive setup though, i had the mods lying around and wanted to see what it could do in the tougher missions (angel extra, enemies abound) but they never got me under 80% shield.
been a long time since i did any missions...
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: AFTRUNX Edited by: AFTRUNX on 23/10/2006 22:06:45 Edited by: AFTRUNX on 23/10/2006 22:05:54 does someone have a fitting with:
High: T2 Siege, 2x Heavy Dimi. Med: XL Booster, Boost Amp., Target Painter, 3 Hardeners Low: 3x PDS II, 2x BCS II
Wonderind if this fitting is possible and what are the skill requirements..
thx AFTRUNX
lack of powergrid - impossible
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Stems
Gallente Trade Consortium Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: wrecker300 all these set ups make interesting and helpfull reading, but i am surprised to see that nobody is using warp core stabs as i beleive there are warp scrammers in alot of the lvl 4s... i am just about to start doing the lvl 4s and the scrammers have been my main concerne... could people please enlighten me as to why they r not used and any advise on dealing with the scrammers would be much apreciated... cheers
The main thing with scramblers is that they usually aren't too hard to kill. Some tech 2 light or medium drones kills them well and fast most cases. And with doing more and more missions, you'll start recognizing which ships scramble and try to take them out first, so if you get into trouble and have to warp out you can do so without any problem. Fitting WCS might seem to help, but if you fit them you are reducing your tank on an armor tank ship and reducing your grid/missile abilities on a shield tank.
If that made any sense to you I hope it helped , it's early and I need some more coffee .
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Zeroing
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Posted - 2006.10.29 17:12:00 -
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My lvl4 raven setup: High: 6 x cruiselaunchers t2 2 X True Sansha heavy nos
Mid: Gist B-Type XL Shield Booster 4 x tech2 hardeners last slot varies with missions: caprech2, sba, fifth hardener...
Low: 1 pds t2 1 cpu t2 3 x ballistic t2
Depends on bs rats being nosfed to tank indefinitively though
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.29 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Zeroing My lvl4 raven setup: High: 6 x cruiselaunchers t2 2 X True Sansha heavy nos
Mid: Gist B-Type XL Shield Booster 4 x tech2 hardeners last slot varies with missions: caprech2, sba, fifth hardener...
Low: 1 pds t2 1 cpu t2 3 x ballistic t2
Depends on bs rats being nosfed to tank indefinitively though
Youre gonna be real short on powergrid there..and a SBA will *always* outperform a 5th (or even a 4th) hardener
WTS Rattlesnake, 2.1Bil, or trade for CNR + 800Mil. Contact me in-game. |
Stems
Gallente Trade Consortium Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.29 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Zeroing My lvl4 raven setup: High: 6 x cruiselaunchers t2 2 X True Sansha heavy nos
Mid: Gist B-Type XL Shield Booster 4 x tech2 hardeners last slot varies with missions: caprech2, sba, fifth hardener...
Low: 1 pds t2 1 cpu t2 3 x ballistic t2
Depends on bs rats being nosfed to tank indefinitively though
Youre gonna be real short on powergrid there..and a SBA will *always* outperform a 5th (or even a 4th) hardener
Very true, for missions, a SBA is almost a must imo.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.29 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Stems
Very true, for missions, a SBA is almost a must imo.
/me strokes his gist b-type one.
i even use them in pvp, for shield tanking theyre a must
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Teufel Hund
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Posted - 2006.10.29 22:46:00 -
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Here is my CNR/Raven setup
Highs: 3 TII cruise lanchers 4 Arbalest Torp launchers or vice versa depending on the mission 1 Hvy diminishing or a smartbomb depending on mission
Med: My med slots look alot differant than most from what I gathered. 2 Gist B Hardeners (mission specific) 1 Gist B Xlarge booster, 1 Gist B Amp 2 Eutectics
Lows: 3 PDU's 2 Ballistic Control II
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.30 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Teufel Hund
Med: My med slots look alot differant than most from what I gathered.
Just 2 hardeners will get you in trouble on, for example, the 5th stage of guristas extravaganza and the first one of enemies abound - you *need* at least 3 hardeners, sometimes 4, to survive.
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Teufel Hund
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Posted - 2006.10.30 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Just 2 hardeners will get you in trouble on, for example, the 5th stage of guristas extravaganza and the first one of enemies abound - you *need* at least 3 hardeners, sometimes 4, to survive.
Actually with the 2 Eutectics and PDU's in the low I can pretty much run my shield boost all day long with no worry. I have yet to run out of cap, about as low as I get is %50 by then the rats are dead. I will say that the bonus level on AE does give me some trouble but I can normally get through it. I havent had to warp off of a mission in ages.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.30 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 30/10/2006 14:07:25 Hm i must be underestimating the xlarge shieldboosters then :) I switched to large ones a long time ago cause they hold it just fine (with proper hardeners) and give you much more freedom in fitting the ship.
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mrhateboy
Vale Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.30 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Raven
highs: 6x arbalest siege, 1x heavy 1x med dim nos meds: gist c-type SB, gist b-type SBA, 4x rat specific gist b-type hardeners lows: 2x bcu-II 2x pdu-II
5x small and 5x large rat specific drones
tank runs forever even without the nos. its a way too expensive setup though, i had the mods lying around and wanted to see what it could do in the tougher missions (angel extra, enemies abound) but they never got me under 80% shield.
been a long time since i did any missions...
Are you running a Large Gist booster with this setup?
--H8
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HARYBARY
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.30 16:20:00 -
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Here is my setup. I know that it's expensive, but I have that ship with that fiting from more than Year. I make hundreds L4 missions and I have no prob with any one.
1x CN Raven :)))
High: 7X Dread Guristas Cruise Missile 1x TS NOS
Med: 1x GistX XL Shield Booster 1x GistX Amplifier 4X GistX specific hardener
Low: 2x Dread Guristas BCU 3x PDU T2
I have 2x TS PDUs but I have no need of more powergrid - that's why I dont use it.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.30 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 30/10/2006 17:24:26
Originally by: mrhateboy
Are you running a Large Gist booster with this setup?
--H8
Yes, one gist c-type large booster, runs indefinetly even w/o the noses. Xlarge shieldboosters nerf your setup too much (take too much CPU and cant be run 24/7 anyway)
And harybary..why use cruises? your damage output versus battleships will suck :) (then again..i have decent drone skills so they tear apart the cruisers silly quick)
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Puttania
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Posted - 2006.10.30 17:29:00 -
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hmm.....
T2 Cruise is to far for me...
but i have T2 siege Lunchers... I must find out a good fitting with T2 SIEGE Launchers and Painter. Also 2 Heavy NOS...
What do you think about SB? Large or XLarge? I think Gist Booster will help out in the most lvl4 missions, but is the boost ammount pro sec enough for tanking? The large are also alot cheaper :)
Suggestions?
AFTRUNX
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.30 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 30/10/2006 17:58:22
Originally by: Puttania hmm.....
T2 Cruise is to far for me...
but i have T2 siege Lunchers... I must find out a good fitting with T2 SIEGE Launchers and Painter. Also 2 Heavy NOS...
What do you think about SB? Large or XLarge? I think Gist Booster will help out in the most lvl4 missions, but is the boost ammount pro sec enough for tanking? The large are also alot cheaper :)
Suggestions?
AFTRUNX
T2 siege + xlarge booster won't work (lack of cpu) and you dont want to waste a lowslot for a coproc. A gist (c/b) large booster + boost amp and good resists will tank everything for you.
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Vetraband
Amarr Gods Warriors
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Posted - 2006.11.01 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Puttania hmm.....
T2 Cruise is to far for me...
but i have T2 siege Lunchers... I must find out a good fitting with T2 SIEGE Launchers and Painter. Also 2 Heavy NOS...
What do you think about SB? Large or XLarge? I think Gist Booster will help out in the most lvl4 missions, but is the boost ammount pro sec enough for tanking? The large are also alot cheaper :)
Suggestions?
AFTRUNX
my setup on this page may cone close
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Skoke
Shatner's Bassoon Inc.
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Posted - 2006.11.07 14:43:00 -
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Bit of a bump here...
But when you say 4 or 5 hardeners, do u mean u double up on some too?
I just got a raven - and was thinking
High 6x Arba cruise 2x Tractor beam --------------- Medium 1 spare XLarge Shield Booster 3x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low Power as needed ? x BCU
any thoughts/help appreciated
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Captin ShadowHawk
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.07 16:10:00 -
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There are some expensive looking setups in this thread can anyone give the best cost effective "bang for buck" setup? |
Guub Bluub
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Posted - 2006.11.07 17:04:00 -
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5x Cruise II, 1 arby assault, 1 tractor or large Smart Bomb, 1 heavy diminishing NOS
1 XL booster II 1 Shield boost amp 1 Invulnerability hardener tech II 2 tech II shield resistance amps (depending on mission) 1 Cap recharger Tech II
1 internal force field array I 2 PDS II 2 BCS II
And a drone bay full of tech II medium drones.
Just tech II stuff, not super expensive, have to warp out occasionally, but level 4s are doable.
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Kovacs Caprios
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.08 13:52:00 -
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I think thisis a great thread..
I am about to learn a Raven as I want to progress to lvl 4 missions, to get any of the Min ships to be able to do that is a skill sink...
Any suggestions for a cheap and cheerful Raven set up..
I can use T2 sheild and armour Tanks
Thanks
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