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Mikesnail
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Posted - 2006.03.01 10:57:00 -
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i use the following :
HI : 6x Arb Siege 2x Med rails
MED : BEST XL booster you can afford 3x invul hardeners shield amp cap recharger
LOW : 1x BCU 4x Cap relays
I still get a very decent shield boost rate and not only that but i can leave it on for a very very long time before it even gets close to running out. Obviously the better the shield booster, the bigger the difference in efficiency.
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Voin
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Posted - 2006.03.01 14:38:00 -
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To all those who writening PDU! Please, stop to give out incorrect name of item...
We don't have unit!!! But we have System in EVE (PDS). Don't mess with name of item, u recomending for.
My setup are:
5 x T2 Siege 1 x Arbalest Cruise 2 x Heavy diminishing nos
Pith B-type Large SB Dread Guristas Amp Cap Recharger II 3 x T2 Hardeners (dependse of faction of npc's)
5 x PDS II
In drone bay ( 5 x Hornet II in one group and 5 x Vespa II in other group)
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Balrog Valarauko
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:46:00 -
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Voin, with that perspective don't you think that using the term PDU is just as bad as your English? Writening was my favorite, btw.
Oh, and Stems, your setup will be fine for most Level 4's if you get those drone skills up a little and use some Tech II puppies. Definitely take the advice for replacing the AB with an Amplifier or whatever, use a fast hauler after the fact if you're not too many jumps from originating station. Also, I see one of your mid-slots oozed into a low-slot. Wouldn't hurt to use a Cap Recharger or another hardener.
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Voin
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Balrog Valarauko Voin, with that perspective don't you think that using the term PDU is just as bad as your English? Writening was my favorite, btw.
English is not my native language, want to speak Russian to me? I'll explaine perfectly and correct way by Russian..........
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Jatonix
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Posted - 2006.03.01 23:26:00 -
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iam running 6 x arb seige, 2 x small guns 2 x gist hardners 2 x dg hardners 1 x gist b type xl shield booster 1 x cap injector, 3 x bcu II 2 x pdu II
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2006.03.01 23:56:00 -
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6x t2 cruise, 2x Hvy nos 2x invul field t2, amp, t2 xl shield booster, 2x cap recharger t2 5x pdu t2
Hammerhead t2 drones for smaller stuff...
Works like a charm for me. Got most missile skills at level 5 and 4.
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WT Lapre
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Posted - 2006.03.02 20:07:00 -
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Having 5 med drones will pwn the frigs. ----------------------------------------------------------
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Mangus Thermopyle
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Posted - 2006.03.02 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mikesnail i use the following :
HI : 6x Arb Siege 2x Med rails
MED : BEST XL booster you can afford 3x invul hardeners shield amp cap recharger
LOW : 1x BCU 4x Cap relays
From he latest patch notes, I would guess that the trick with cap relays + shield boost amplifiers dont work any more. And if it does not, that setup is truly horrible
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Jist bik
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Posted - 2006.03.03 18:59:00 -
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Hello, I am gonna use my raven for 0.0 belt hunting. So i will mostly kill a bs or two, with some cruiser and frig support. So no frig fleets here. Should i use cruise or torps then? Got about the same skills in both.
And what mid slots should i use if im only gonna fight sanshas?
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Windknight
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Posted - 2006.03.04 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Windknight on 04/03/2006 10:43:05 Well I've been running level 4's in this setup for about a month...so...guess I can post it here:
Highs 6x Arba Siege 1x Large Nos 1x Small Nos (for them pesky inties that like to fly right on top of you..also drains fast for tight situations) --------------------------- Medums 1x Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster (grants a really nice regen of about 100/2sec..me like) 1x C5-L XL Shield Booster (Only activate when needed) 2x Tech II Hardeners pending on what you're fighting (I.E. Serpentis: Therm/Kin) 1x Shield boost amp --------------------------- Lows 2x BCU II 3x PDU II ---------------------------
Probally needs a little work, But has proved as a tough nut to smash under pressure. I've done every mission except Angel Extravaganza without a problem. ______________________________________________________
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Xardrix
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Posted - 2006.03.07 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Stems
Originally by: Tomas Nuerin
Originally by: Stems I've recently tried a few lv 4's, and I find I can kill everything fine, but the problems are with the small frigs; they take way too long for me to kill, my setup is below, any help is appreciated:
High 6x Arba Siege 2x 150mm --------------- Medium Gist B-Type 100mn AB Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 2x Invul Field II 1x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II ---------------
I know it needs work, any suggestions will be appreciated as to what mods I should be looking to get or what to change. Thanks!
Originally by: Ralitge boyter Low 3x PDS II 3x BCS II
WTB: Raven with six low slots
Precision Cruise Missiles and medium drones are what you need.
lol oops must of been dreaming
Again the setups are appreciated and will hopefully help more people then just myself
Its called a Rattlesnake. Basically a Raven with 6 lows. See, your not dumb!
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Hal Mondo
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Posted - 2006.03.08 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Hal Mondo on 08/03/2006 15:02:31 Hi
How good a player do you think a player has to be to run Level 4 missions with a Raven?
(I currently run all Level 3's with great ease....)
For example, roughly how many skillpoints, and what basic Raven setup would I need?
I currently have 3.5mil skillpoints (maxed learning, therfore not that many in missiles), and this is my current setup. ( Tech I drones atm..... :-( )
Hi's ----
6 x Limos Cruise 2 x 125mm rails
Mids ----
3 x named hardners 1 x Shield boost amp 1 x XL CL5 booster (the best named one) 1 x AB (I know, i need to get rid of this....)
Lows ----
4 x PDU II 1 x BCU I
Your help and advice is much appreciated :-) -----------------------------
Give man fire and he will be warm for a day.
Set man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Sylaan
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Posted - 2006.03.08 15:06:00 -
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This is not a bad setup. You will have to train those capacitor skills, an XL booster will eat a lot of cap at 3 mils SPs in those harder missions. And pack drones, mediums or lights. Just with the 2 small rails you will have troubles breaking the tank on those pesky interceptors. Also, it's good to get the best 150mm you can get, they are not that expensive. Those + antimatter ammo will make quite a difference.
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Hal Mondo
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Posted - 2006.03.08 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Hal Mondo on 08/03/2006 15:26:57 Ok, so I should train more: Cap, Shield, Drone and Missile skills I take it?
I have done some Level 4's with my corp buddies, as support, but never tried them solo.
Do you guys recommend that I should wait for a bit until my skills are better & got arbies and techII stuff before I attempt one solo?
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Give man fire and he will be warm for a day.
Set man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Sylaan
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Posted - 2006.03.08 15:53:00 -
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Yeah, cap and shield skills are important. And no, it does not mean you should not try level 4's now. Just be careful, do the easier missions until you get the hang of them, reject the harder ones (you wont lose standing if you reject them, you do only if you accept and then reject), get insurance.
Also, join the LVL4 ingame channel and dont be afraid to ask questions. Lots of helpful people there. And last, feel free to use Chepe's site for lots of mission info: Chepe Nolon's Agentpage (works ingame)
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Hal Mondo
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Posted - 2006.03.08 15:57:00 -
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Thanks very much m8 - ur a star! -----------------------------
Give man fire and he will be warm for a day.
Set man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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Agal Peberg
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:04:00 -
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Well, this setup has probably been written here already. I am not sure. I try to stay out of expensive faction equipment, but do fancy some T2 stuff, even if they are expensive (looks at the bcu II )
High 6x T2 Cruise Launchers 2x Medium Beam Laser II (with Gleam S)
Medium 2x T2 Passive Shield Amplifiers (dependent on mission NPC) 2x 'named' Shield Hardeners (dependent on mission NPC) 1x Sensor booster (any kind is good, gets 100km+ lock range) 1x T2 Xlarge Shield Booster
Low 1x Warp Core Stabilizer (any kind) 2x T2 Power Diagnostic System 2x T2 Ballistic Control System
Drone Bay 7x Medium Scout Drone (type dependent on mission NPC)
T2 Cruise + 2x BCU II gives me a ROF at 8.34 AND Cataclysm Cruises (std) gives a thermal damage at 405 (base 300) 28 (20) seconds at 7.350 m/s (3.750) gives a range of 205km (75km) (including any skill that I have that will help any of those values)
This setup works good for me. I dont have so much spare CPU, but can make some variation on it. The powergrid is usually no problem. I mostly face guristas or serpentis, but have no problems with rogue drones and angels either. If I can pick right groups and getting some distance before starting fire at them.
The Lasers and Drones kills of most webber and scrambler frigs then they get close enough... make sure they have a lock/fire on you before releasing the drones, or they chase them instead.
I have since the npc started to scramble you, lost 3 ravens, cause of not having been able to kill the right scrambling frig before their damage dealers been through all my shields, armour and hull. That's why the WCS is there. It is a cheap insurance. And i can afford the lesser low slots it gets me.
Atm I am training to use all those drone skills, to be able to get more out of them and using T2 variants too.
Variants I use:
High
Exchange Lasers for: 2x T2 125mm railguns OR 1x Heavy Nos (named) + 1x Drone Link Augmentor OR 2x Heavy Nos (named)
Exchange T2 Cruise Launchers for: 6x T2 Torp Launchers (for missions like Duo of death or similar)
Medium
Need better tank, replace sensor booster for: 1x T2 Passive Shield Amplifier OR 1x 'named' Shield Hardener OR 1x T2 Large Shield Extender OR 1x Shield Boost Amplifier
Low
Need more cap/shield and better cap/shield regen: decrease the number of BCU and add more PDS if needed drop the WCS too for another PDS
Need more damage output (both damage and rof will increase): decrease number of PDS and add more BCU instead if needed drop the WCS too for another BCU
No need for more than 4 of anything in lows, so any combination of WCS, PDS and BCU goes here, feel free to find your best fit
I started my level 4 kill missions with lighter stuff than T2 and expensive named stuff. It was doable then, but had to be alert to warping out if taking to much damage. Nowadays i seldom have to warp out. But there are some missions i do have hard to tank all by myself, so the need still exist
I hope this will help someone getting his setup done. Happy Hunting Fellow Mission Runners.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2006.03.13 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Quanteeri on 13/03/2006 18:52:01 I'm currently running the following, it does fairly well for me.
4 x Cruise 2 x Torp 2 x Afocal Pulse Laser, w/ asst. crystals
100mn AB XL Booster 2 hardeners, types dependant on mission 2 eutectic CPR
2 PDU 2 BCU 1 LG Accom Armor Rep
+ 5 Light Drones, types dependant on mission
And for can retrieval; a Carcal with 5 tractors, 10mwd, 2 expanders.
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Winded Destruction
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Posted - 2006.03.20 00:51:00 -
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anyone ever tried a passive raven tank setup: med: 3X shield extender 3X shield hardener
low: 2X BCU 3X Shield Power Relay
just wondering, help would be appreciated.
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Gkido
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Posted - 2006.03.20 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Stems I've recently tried a few lv 4's, and I find I can kill everything fine, but the problems are with the small frigs; they take way too long for me to kill, my setup is below, any help is appreciated:
High 6x Arba Siege 2x 150mm --------------- Medium Gist B-Type 100mn AB Gist C-Type Large Shield Booster 2x Invul Field II 1x Rat Specific Hardener --------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II ---------------
I know it needs work, any suggestions will be appreciated as to what mods I should be looking to get or what to change. Thanks!
Indeed there is nothing wrong with that if you are managing fine. All i recommend is using drones. Thats what I use to take out the frigs. Generally on lvl 4 missions they are full of webifiers. Get the drones to work on those while you take out the others. By the time you have finished, so have your drones. Top Tip: Always make sure that you let the frigates attack you first prior to launching drones. Bit of a bug me thinks. Once they have started attacking a target, they rarely change.
Hope this helps.
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VaderDSL
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Posted - 2006.03.20 13:35:00 -
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WOW at all thes uber expensive setups :
For all Lvl 4's I use
HIGH-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [1175 | 38] XT-9000 Cruise Launcher > [ 10 | 20] 150mm Railgun II > [ 10 | 20] 150mm Railgun II
MED-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 165 | 115] Large Shield Booster II > [ 0 | 44] Ballistic Deflection Field II > [ 0 | 44] Ballistic Deflection Field II > [ 0 | 44] Heat Dissipation Field II > [ 0 | 44] Heat Dissipation Field II > [ 1 | 16] Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
LOW-SLOTS : ~~~~~~~~~~~ > [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II > [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II > [ 0 | 15] Power Diagnostic System II > [ 1 | 35] Ballistic Control System I > [ 1 | 35] Ballistic Control System I
Won't cost me much to replace when I lose it and handles all lvl 4 missions, except Enemies Abound 5/5 - haven't tried it yet
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MMXMMX
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Posted - 2006.03.20 13:51:00 -
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i use the following :
HI : 2x Arb Cruise 4x Dread Guristas Cruise
MED : 1 Gist B-Type XL shield booster 1 Dread Guristas shield amp 1 shield amp 1 1 invulnerability field 2 2 cap recharger 2
LOW : 2x BCU Tech 2 3x PDS Tech 2
I get a very decent shield boost rate (998 every 4 sec)and not only that but i can leave it on forever.
Is this inuf to solo level 4 ???????
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Ms Freak
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Posted - 2006.03.20 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX i use the following :
HI : 2x Arb Cruise 4x Dread Guristas Cruise
MED : 1 Gist B-Type XL shield booster 1 Dread Guristas shield amp 1 shield amp 1 1 invulnerability field 2 2 cap recharger 2
LOW : 2x BCU Tech 2 3x PDS Tech 2
I get a very decent shield boost rate (998 every 4 sec)and not only that but i can leave it on forever.
Is this inuf to solo level 4 ???????
Personaly i would want another invunerability field 2 but hey thats me
You should be able to solo most of them with that your best of taking a few copr m8s along as backup in case things get hairy the first few times.
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Stems
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Posted - 2006.03.20 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Stems on 20/03/2006 16:41:53 Well I'm having no more problems now Setup Below:
High 6x Arba Siege 1x E500 NOS -------------------------- Medium Gist X-Type X-Large Booster Shield Amp 2x Invul II 2x Rat Specific II(1 Primary / 1 Secondary) -------------------------- Low 4x PDS II 2x BCS II
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Arkive
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Posted - 2006.03.20 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: MMXMMX i use the following :
HI : 2x Arb Cruise 4x Dread Guristas Cruise
MED : 1 Gist B-Type XL shield booster 1 Dread Guristas shield amp 1 shield amp 1 1 invulnerability field 2 2 cap recharger 2
LOW : 2x BCU Tech 2 3x PDS Tech 2
I get a very decent shield boost rate (998 every 4 sec)and not only that but i can leave it on forever.
Is this inuf to solo level 4 ???????
A few things. You need more shield hardeners. Drop the Tech I Amp and put a rat specific hardener or another invuln. Also, consider training cruise missile to lvl 5 and getting cruise missile specialization. With that at a decent level and T2 launchers you'll get the ROF of the DG launchers and have some coin in your pocket to use on other items (unless fitting is the reason, in which case more training in those areas in probably in order).
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VeNT
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Posted - 2006.03.23 19:14:00 -
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any of these realy good enough to solo all angel based LVL 4s?
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.23 20:38:00 -
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Yes, most of them are.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.03.23 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Agal Peberg I have since the npc started to scramble you, lost 3 ravens, cause of not having been able to kill the right scrambling frig before their damage dealers been through all my shields, armour and hull. That's why the WCS is there. It is a cheap insurance. And i can afford the lesser low slots it gets me.
Carry some FoFs. They work incredibly well against interceptors...not advisable in deadspace though I admit...
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Lockheed19
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Posted - 2006.03.27 08:29:00 -
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Hi-Slots:
4 x Arby Cruise [can use T2 but they are too hungry] 2 x Arby Siege 2 x Heavy Diminishing Nos'
Med-Slots:
1 x Gistii A-Class Small Shield Boost [with Boost amp, I get over 78 shield points every two seconds for less than 12 energy] 1 x DG XLarge SB [with Boost amp, I get over 823 shield points every four seconds for less than 380 energy] 1 x Hakim's Shield Boost Amp giving 35.75% boost 1 x T2 Inv. Field 2 x Gistii B-Type Rat Specific Hardeners
Lo-Slots:
3 x BCS T2 2 x PDS T2
Drone Bay:
5 x Hammerhead T2 5 x Hobgoblin T2
I only use the Hobgoblin's for under 10km's smaller rats. They especially like Guardian Vet's and Spiderdrones [fastest Guardian vet kill is under 5 seconds]. The Hammerheads also enjoy chomping on cruisers.
As always with the small Gistii SB, it runs continuously, with the XLarge being used very sparingly, if at all.
The only time I really change this set-up is by taking out a BCS II for a CPR when doing the first level of the Angel X' |
burning raven
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Posted - 2006.03.27 08:59:00 -
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6x 'Malkuth' Siege 2x Heavy Nos
1x C5-L XL Shield Booster 1x Cap Recharger II 4x Hardners II
4x PDS II 1x BCS
how does that sound, think it can tank lvl 4's (will be another guy there to help kill)
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