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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.06.14 22:50:00 -
[571]
Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 14/06/2007 22:49:49
Pff dual account mission running is lame :P
Real men solo them!
(And I DO have two accounts too... Just too bad my alt is in lowsec for PvP or 0.0 for exploration.)
It would also defeat like half my game purpose, which is pimping my solo lvl4 rides ever more.
Thank you SkyFlyer!
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brocksamson316
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Posted - 2007.06.15 13:51:00 -
[572]
 Originally by: Ciaphas Loken
High-
6x named cruise launchers
Tractor/Salvage Combo
Mid-
Best XL non faction booster
regular boost amp
Cap Recharger 2
Cap Recharger 2
2 hardeners
Low-
5x capacitor power relays?(-cap size% + recharge 29%)
3x CCC rigs T1
That is the worst raven setup ive seen in a long time, are you for real with 5 cap relays in lows? I am grimacing at that setup
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Gax Githanki
Defiance Corp
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.15 18:50:00 -
[573]
I have been running lvl 4s for some time in a Drake and I wonder if some of these tanks might be a little over done. The faction mods are nice but do not seem absolutely necessary. I ran the following Raven setup through quickfit and I think I should be able to maintain roughly the same tank as my Drake setup.
Highs
6x Arbalest Cruise Launchers
1x Tractor beam
1x salvager
Mids
1x Large Shield Booster II
2x Shield Boost Amplifier
2x Invulnerability Field II
1x Rat-specific hardener or resistance amplifier
Lows
2x Ballistic Constroll System II
3x Power Diagnostic System II
Rigs
3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
My shield tank/capacitor skills are all at lvl 4. I figure I can keep this tank up almost indefinitely (over 10 minutes non-stop) with my current skills. And honestly, the tank shouldn't need to run all the time anyway.
Am I way off base with this setup? I realize it might not be as efficient as a Torpedo Raven with 2 painters but this fit is close enough to the Drake I run that I can feel comfortable in it. The only problem I think I will have with this setup is the reliance on drones to take out frigs and cruisers which are a majority of the ships you face even in a lvl 4 mission. I find that you cannot always count on drones because of aggro.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.15 19:04:00 -
[574]
Originally by: Gax Githanki
The only problem I think I will have with this setup is the reliance on drones to take out frigs and cruisers which are a majority of the ships you face even in a lvl 4 mission. I find that you cannot always count on drones because of aggro.
Cruise missiles have no problems with cruisers, and even slowish frigs. The only problem you'll have with cruise is taking down the 30k ISK fast assault frigs.
Tend to be the elite webber / scrambler onese. For those I use light drones.
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Luka Lavandi
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.19 19:37:00 -
[575]
Edited by: Luka Lavandi on 19/06/2007 19:40:40
Originally by: Gax Githanki
Highs
6x Arbalest Cruise Launchers
1x Tractor beam
1x salvager
Mids
1x Large Shield Booster II
2x Shield Boost Amplifier
2x Invulnerability Field II
1x Rat-specific hardener or resistance amplifier
Lows
2x Ballistic Constroll System II
3x Power Diagnostic System II
Rigs
3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
My shield tank/capacitor skills are all at lvl 4. I figure I can keep this tank up almost indefinitely (over 10 minutes non-stop) with my current skills.
With skills at 5 it could run permanently, but it's not effective because of 4 sec cycle. Replace LSB2 with DG LSB (costs <30mil), and 3xPDS2 to 3xCFC2.
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TradeUnion second
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Posted - 2007.06.19 21:15:00 -
[576]
High
6x Arba Cruise
2x 150mm or whatever you like for additional dmg/anti frig
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Medium
XL Shield Booster II
Shield Booster Amp II
Cap Recharger 2
Cap Recharger 2
2 Rat specific hardeners
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Low
2x BCS II
3x Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Flux I (cheaper and enough recharge)
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Rigs
3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
I use additional ship for salvage - much faster. With my skills this setup runs forever and makes ~175 shield recharge per second. I use T2 light/medium drones also.
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Heldar NiteShade
Minmatar
Cospoli Assembly
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Posted - 2007.06.22 16:43:00 -
[577]
my CNR lv4 set
7 t2 cruise launchers
1 heavy ghoul energy siphon
1 t2 Large shield booster
1 dread shield boost amp
2 t2 invun fields
1 t2 photon scattering field
1 t2 large shield extender
1 t2 ballistic control system
4 t2 PDS
rigs
3 capacitor control circuit
5 t2 drones
implants
full crystal set
cap 8071/recharge 374.85 sec
shield 21081/recharge 1274.84 sec (resists 72-79-68-58)
have tryed with the xl shield booster but cant sustain the cap for more than a min or 2,running the setup as i do cap never drops below 50%
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General Apocolypse
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Posted - 2007.06.22 23:23:00 -
[578]
Originally by: Heldar NiteShade
my CNR lv4 set
7 t2 cruise launchers
1 heavy ghoul energy siphon
1 t2 Large shield booster
1 dread shield boost amp
2 t2 invun fields
1 t2 photon scattering field
1 t2 large shield extender
1 t2 ballistic control system
4 t2 PDS
rigs
3 capacitor control circuit
5 t2 drones
implants
full crystal set
cap 8071/recharge 374.85 sec
shield 21081/recharge 1274.84 sec (resists 72-79-68-58)
have tryed with the xl shield booster but cant sustain the cap for more than a min or 2,running the setup as i do cap never drops below 50%
My god man, how do you still manage to hold onto your cnr?!
drop the invuln fields and use mission specific hardners, your resistancy is not very good for a mission involving therm/kintic dealing rats where you may run into 6 or 7 bs's and about 10-20 cruisers at one time - run 4x resistance hardners tech2/faction (i.e. 2xkinetic, 2xthermal for kin/therm rats) also using an X-large SB is advisable for big missions just use it sparingly. Thumb rule for resistance aim for at least mid 80's
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Xenon 101
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Posted - 2007.06.23 02:24:00 -
[579]
Try this setup:
high slots:6 cruise launchers+plus 2 heavy nos
medium slots:large shield extender II,shield recharger II, 4 rat specific active hardeners
low slots:3x shileld power relays II,power diag. unit II,ballistic control system II
rigs :3x core defence field purger tech 1
So....I get 13140 shield hp and 327 sec recharge time......she tanks like a Drake,i have enough capacitor to run the shield hardeners for 20-25 min without using the heavy nos,I dont have to worry about the damn CAP every sec or so if I use a standard shield booster and recharger setup
I know people we'll say I'm a noob and my configuration's crazy but i dont care,you should try it before you say something,my RAVEN tanks like a DRAKE
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Erika v'Adler
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Posted - 2007.06.24 04:40:00 -
[580]
very interesting
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Bazan Kor
STK Scientific
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.06.24 10:27:00 -
[581]
Edited by: Bazan Kor on 24/06/2007 10:25:45
Originally by: Xenon 101
my RAVEN tanks like a DRAKE
I dont see how a battleship tanking like a Battlecruiser is a good thing 
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xXxcrazyxXx
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:41:00 -
[582]
For me it is all about staying alive. They all die eventually!! in missions.
top: 3 x cruise,3 x torp, 1x dim nos, 1 x med blaster/dim nos. I only fit the torps because I want to kill BS faster.
mids: xlarge c5 sb, 3 x T2 passive shield hardners (enemy damage specific)2 x active shiled hardners (named 50%)(enemy damage specific)
Lows: 2 x bcu 11's 3 x pdu's 11
Drone bay. 5 x T2 drones. (i use hammers, never let them out until you are locked)
Pick your targets, kill frigs first, use cheapish ammo, stay alive. Tru I have very gd shield skills.
Very rarely have to warp. Go back get your fitted tractor/salvadger fitted destroyer and claim ya bounty.
For PVP change ship
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Darkphara
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Posted - 2007.06.29 17:22:00 -
[583]
Edited by: Darkphara on 29/06/2007 17:21:14
Hiya!
I admit I'm quite wet behind the ears still, so I'm looking for some help in balancing my planned lvl4 fit/build to be more cost effective versus actually being able to run lvl4 missions smoothly.
Currently planning on:
CNR with 3xCCC
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High
6xCaldari Navy Cruise Launcher
2xHeavy Dimishing Power System Drain I
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Medium
DG X-Large Shield Booster
3xDG Active Hardener
DG Shield Boost Amplifier
CR2
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Low
4xCapacitor Flux Coil
BCU II
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5xHammerhead T1 (LVL3 interfacing and Combat Drone Op)
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LVL4 on the three cap skills - lvl3-5 on missileskills/BS skill to start with.
Should be able to run the booster nonstop with the 2x NOS on, droids to help on elite frigs.
Any advice on obvious flaws in this plan and especially any ideas on how to lower it's cost would be greatly appriciated - thanks!
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Zatarrra
Caldari
ChateauDif
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Posted - 2007.06.30 06:03:00 -
[584]
Edited by: Zatarrra on 30/06/2007 06:02:24
Quote:
CNR with 3xCCC
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High
6xCaldari Navy Cruise Launcher
2xHeavy Dimishing Power System Drain I
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Medium
DG X-Large Shield Booster
3xDG Active Hardener
DG Shield Boost Amplifier
CR2
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Low
4xCapacitor Flux Coil
BCU II
one of biggest benes of CNR is that 7th launcher slot... dump the nos in exchange for it. rest of setup looks very good in mids,
in the lows, esp w/ 3 ccc's, try 4 BCU2's (eventually faction), you should find that 99% of L4's you can do smoothly w/ aggroing the right pockets w/ this setup and/or keep increasing bcu2's till you are comfortable... keep in mind huge increases in shield/armor on the cnr makes it much smoother than the raven you're used to.
depending on cash the 350 calibs of cnr allows for 1 t2 ccc, and 2 reg ccc's... but the 3 ccc's is good enuf
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Misrenath
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Posted - 2007.06.30 09:04:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Bazan Kor
Edited by: Bazan Kor on 24/06/2007 10:25:45
Originally by: Xenon 101
my RAVEN tanks like a DRAKE
I dont see how a battleship tanking like a Battlecruiser is a good thing
That might have something to do with the fact that when correctly fitted, Drake tanks passively like a piece of adamantium. DPS just sucks really badly, though.  |
FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.01 11:33:00 -
[586]
Originally by: Arcticblue2
Highslot: 6x Cruisemissile launchers (usually just tech 1 .. because lets face it lvl 4 is not that hard).
1x Blaster medium type .. your pick
1x Heavy Nos... (named if you like).
Medium Slot:
1x Large shield booster
4x Active tech 2 shield hardners (usually like 2 heat and 2 kin and so on... you know depending on what mission I run).
1x Shield booster amplifier
Lowslot:
2x Warp core Stabs.. (yes it have saved my ships many times from warpscrambling frigs).
3x PDU's.
Pack medium drones for close defence with the blaster...
I do most missions solo, missions I have had problem with is missions like Right hand of Zazzmatazz.. and a couple of others, usually just warp out a few times.
No problem taking out 2 mill rats with this one, and a few modification and you even fight PvP with this one.
2 stabs u must have a hell of a locking time  but i guess it works if u warp in tank dam for 30 seconds then bang out the frigs, warp out to repair
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FHPhantom
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.01 11:40:00 -
[587]
my setup and I do them solo, once in a while drake support from a freind so I dump the 2 stbs
Highs
5x Arbalest Cruise Launchers
1x Arb Siege
1x HD
1x salvager
Mids
1x Large Shield Booster II
1x Large SE II
4x Sheild Hardners 1 of each II
Lows
1x Ballistic Constroll System II
2x Power Diagnostic System II
2x Warp Stabs
Rigs
3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Li Qiao
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Posted - 2007.07.01 15:25:00 -
[588]
Thinking of doing some L4 running again, this time in a CNR and I'm having troubles fitting it, even after reading the last 4 pages :)
Currently Im looking at this, vs guristas, and no I don't have T2 Cruise launchers :)
Raven Navy Issue
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile]
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Heat Dissipation Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \
5x Vespa II
5x Hornet II
13500 shield, 18.0/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/81/85/59
10459 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10
3915.0472044423313 cap, +49.29/s, -54.0/s
144.0 m/s
493.8 DPS (391 without drones, +50 dps with cal navy launchers)
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What kind of "raw" dps do you guys get on your ravens/CNRs?
Is it just me or does mine look kinda crappy :p (using quickfit)
Am I missing something? I'm having trouble remembering how much shield regen per sec was needed (current setup gives 102 from booster and 18 passive), and the last time I ran L4s was last fall so things have changed.
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skiersteve
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Posted - 2007.07.02 07:43:00 -
[589]
Well.. I've been running level 3s for so long im so bored of them i almost cry when i run them. So i just grabbed a raven and outfitted it like someone told me to in game (im new) and after reading this thread I feel as if he and I are the biggest idiots on the face of the planet. Thankfully I tried it on a level 3 mission first (it performed horribly) because this setup never would of made it through the first level 4.
Highs
6x ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay
Mids
1x X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
1x Shield Boost Amplifier I
1x Cap Recharger II
1x Prototype I Sensor Booster
2x Tech II Mission Specific Active Hardeners
Lows
2x PDS II
2x BCS II
1x 'Stoic' Warp Core Stabilizer
Rigs
1x Capacitor Control Circuit
As you can see, my **** is terrible. After reading this post I realized i should use Cruise Launchers not Siege Launchers but I am left with a few questions still.
1) Should I replace my PDS with capacitor flux coils? Why? They don't seem that great...
2) The guy I was talking to INSISTED that I use a stab on level 4s, and if I don't, I will lose my raven. But I dont just lose one slot, with a stab I need a sensor booster as well or I cant lock anything more than 44k out. (not to mention a long time) Do I need a stab? If I don't that saves me two slots. I have five tech I hammerheads and five tech I hobgoblins with drone interfacing 3 and combat drone operation 3.
3) Should I use a XL shield booster or a L shield booster? Almost everyone I ask in game says XL no matter what, but pages of posts here show only Large shield boosters.
4) Should I use invuln fields or specific hardeners?
If the answers are what I think they are (yes, no, L, specific) then I think I should switch to this setup:
Highs
6x Cruise Missile Bay
Mids
1x Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
1x Shield Boost Amplifier I
4x Tech II Mission Specific Active Hardeners
Lows
3x CFC II
2x BCS II
Rigs
1x Capacitor Control Circuit
Any advice? I'm on a twitchy trigger finger to go start level 4 missions as i am so bored of level 3s, but I cant really "try" them out and develop a great setup with a 200m ship (all of my money) when they warp scramble...
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.02 09:06:00 -
[590]
Originally by: skiersteve
As you can see, my **** is terrible. After reading this post I realized i should use Cruise Launchers not Siege Launchers but I am left with a few questions still.
Use XL booster (CL-5 if you cant use T2) and instead of WCS (it kills the last efficency you have) use cap injector if you are worried and read up about mission before you go there. 1 WCS will not save you. I have lost Ravens in lev 4 while being scrammed for 6 points all together so if you get scrammed that bad you will die (while some other modules might save your skin depending on situation, like damage control)
Note also that cruise missiles are approx 30% less effective than siege launchers in level 4 missions assuming you are able to field 5 drones (against frigates). Their only advatage over siege is that they are a lot easier to fit with reasonable tank for lev 4 missions than siege. Siege need 1 target painter also to be effective.
There are quite many sensible setups in previous pages. One of those I have found working (I'm sure there is very similar setups in previous pages also) is
Hi: 6x Siege (arbalest) 2x empty or whatever fits
Med: XL T2 booster, heavy cap injector (x800), 3x T2 hardener, 1x painter
Low: 3x BCU (T2 preferably) 1x beta RCU 1x beta PDU
3x CCC I rigs + 5 light and 5 medium drones.
That needs rather good fitting skills tho. So if you prefer to with cruise (easier to fit) then dump RCU and PDU and replace them with signal amp (t2 is good) and damage control (t2 if you can).
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DEFF DSP
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Posted - 2007.07.03 00:09:00 -
[591]
Originally by: Xenon 101
...tanks like a Drake...
drakes passive tank was better than ravens, dont know how drake tanks after rev2 patch
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Deirea
Caldari
Xovangamon
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Posted - 2007.07.03 03:39:00 -
[592]
My setup is pretty good. I've never had a problem with any lvl 4 missions with it.
High slots
3 named T1 cruise launchers
3 named t1 siege launchers
2 Large Smartbombs (for those pesky frigates that warp jam)
Mids
4 Cap Recharger IIs
1 Invul II
1 X-Large booster II
Lows
3 PDU IIs
1 BCU
1 DCU
+ Full rack of Medium Drones, normally Hammerheads or Valkyries. (For light cruisers and all those elite frigates)
The only "problem" I have is that my DPS isn't quite fast enough to take down elite cruisers without wasting a lot of missiles. Otherwise I have no problem either tanking it out or constantly moving in the opposite direction of the enemy.
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Saaeki
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Posted - 2007.07.04 22:58:00 -
[593]
Edited by: Saaeki on 04/07/2007 22:57:21
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skiersteve
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Posted - 2007.07.04 22:59:00 -
[594]
This is how i ended up fitting, works fine so far
High:
6x XT-9000 Cruise Launchers / Heavy Nos / Heavy Nos (if u have cpu)
Mid:
1x X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload / 1x Shield Boost Amp I / 4x Mission Specific Hardener IIs
Low:
3x PDS II / 2x BCS II
I want to get caldari navy launchers, booster, boost amp, hardeners, everything eventually... but i need the LP first...
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Killgorde
Caldari
Soul Blade Synergy
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Posted - 2007.07.06 07:45:00 -
[595]
Here's approaching the set-up from a completely different angle based on avoiding the penalty when using Fury cruise missiles - one where cap recharge rate is irrelevant:
CNR
Hi Slots
7 Cruise Missile Launcher II
1 Small Tractor Beam
Mid Slots
1 Caldari Navy XLarge SB
1 Shield Boost Amp II
1 Large Cap Battery II (can use Thurifer if CPU is an issue)
3 Caldari Navy Hardners
Low Slots
3 PDS II
2 Caldari Navy BCS
Rigs
3 Semi Conductor Memory Cell
Drones
7 x T2 Scout Drones
A Raven (CNR or normal) has 7687 Cap using 3 diags taking engineering skills at max. The above Raven has a whopping 13232. To give you an idea, it takes 2 minutes 30 seconds running the SB non stop to flatten the capacitor. And there is rarely a need to run it continuously for half that length of time. Usually just knock it on for a few bursts every so often. Don't think my cap has ever been below half (other than forgetting to turn the SB off with shields at max )
Obviously the above can be improved upon with a better (Officer, Gisti etc) Shield Booster if you have the big bucks.
Works for me.
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Draxnil
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:11:00 -
[596]
Edited by: Draxnil on 06/07/2007 09:11:57
I'm having a head-scratcher here.
I read all these great setups, but I can't figure out how to fit them into a Raven.
Here's the only thing I can get to work.
HI SLOTS:
6 Arby Siege
MID SLOTS:
3x Tech II Hardeners
1x Tech II X-Large Shield Booster
1x Named Tech I Shield Boost Amp
1x Heavy Cap Booster II
LOW SLOTS:
3x PDU II
2x Named Tech I BCU
RIG SLOTS:
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
With that setup, along with Weapons Upgrades V and Electronics V, the Raven sits at exactly 875/875 available CPU usage.
How are you guys fitting NOS's and other crap on top of those things?
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.07.06 09:32:00 -
[597]
Originally by: Draxnil
With that setup, along with Weapons Upgrades V and Electronics V, the Raven sits at exactly 875/875 available CPU usage.
How are you guys fitting NOS's and other crap on top of those things?
Faction modules use a lot less CPU than T2 or even T1. Quickfit is your best friend in determining what you need.
Thanks SkyFlyer!
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captain cookies
Caldari
Hand of The Light
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Posted - 2007.07.06 23:11:00 -
[598]
how come you guys use some many bcus and stuff like that if you say you can run oyur stuff for forever. just put cap flux coil II's on
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bogir
War And Peace Construction
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Posted - 2007.07.07 06:46:00 -
[599]
Edited by: bogir on 07/07/2007 06:46:21
1 Raven
high
5x caldari navy cruise
1 arba cruise
1x drone cruise
( last one free out of cpu lol )
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Medium
2x invul Field II
1x Rat specific hardener
2x SBA
1x Grist type B XL booster
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low
3x PDS II
2x BCS II
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Rigs
3x CCC
works like a charm
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Krezeb
Caldari
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:14:00 -
[600]
Edited by: Krezeb on 11/07/2007 23:21:42
Hi
I'm pretty new to lvl 4 missions, and I'm looking to get started (lvl 3s are too slow). I've been using a drake for lvl 3 missions and I havn't had a single problem.
I've bought a Raven, and I can use most T2 items on the market (shield hardners, boosters, even got all shield compensation skills to lvl 5).
My main problem are frigs that NOS me. My cap goes down quickly. Any suggestions on how to fit my Raven and counter the NOS problem?
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