Nestor

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Can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices

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for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.

for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.

How about +15 virus strength in ghost sites only?

Oh we are going to get all RP-ish over a balancing thread are we?

for the final f**king time Uriel it wont get a cov ops cloak so stop the ******** posting.

Hi

I am very relieved to finally show you the Sisters of EVE Battleship, the Nestor. We weren't able to get it finalized before Rubicon went out, but that's alright because now it makes a nice Christmas present (just kidding it's not until (late)January).

We all agreed that keeping the covert cloak theme was not going to work for the battleship. Instead, we've kept the rest of the exploration feel from the Stratios and Astero by giving the Nestor hacking and probing bonuses, but instead of cloaking it will receive a bonus to remote armor repair amount, drawing on the Sisters of EVE themes of aid and relief. On top of that, the Nestor (as designed currently) has incredibly low mass - around half the mass of a normal Battleship. This should make it very popular in wormholes. The rest of the attribute layout follows the principles from the other Sisters of EVE ships pretty closely, as do the bonuses.

Here's the details:

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
4% Armor resistances per level

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
50% bonus to remote armor repairer amount
100% bonus to remote armor repairer range
50% bonus to large energy turret optimal range
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Slot layout: 7H, 6M, 6L; 5 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 11250 PWG, 680 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 8900 / 9950 / 9900
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 6200 / 1044 / 5.9
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 92 / .18 / 56000000 / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 500
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 85 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 465
Cargo Capacity: 700

It will be acquired in the same way that the Stratios and Astero are, via Sisters of EVE LP stores. Here are the LP offer specifics:

Nestor
1,000,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK

Discount Nestor (From the Sanctuary)
800,000 LP
80,000,000 ISK

Nestor Blueprint
600,000 LP
150,000,000 ISK

Discount Nestor Blueprint (From the Sanctuary)
400,000 LP
100,000,000 ISK

I wanted to show you guys some art, but wasn't able to get ahold of the newest version today so I'll edit later with it.

Hope this is exciting! Let me know
o/

STEALTH EDIT by Manifest brings high res concept art: http://bit.ly/1izOFm4

I don't really understand the argument for having getting rid of these. If they are gone, they wouldn't be replaced with something else. They are there because it keeps theme with the other two Sisters ships, and it will likely get used by at least some people for the occasional ghost site or finding sites or for future content that uses hacking.

Unless I missed something the SOE ships were released with Rubicon along with Ghost sites. I read some bit of news somewhere that Ghost sites were ripping the hell out of those attempting them. Now comes a long overdue range bonused RRBS. This ship may have uses most of ya'll aren't realizing.

This ship needs a jumpdrive or all you have created is the most expensive complex running ship in the game.

I want to fight and die in pvp with these! not shoot little red crosses till my eyes bleed and i dont play eve for 2 weeks.

I don't really understand the argument for having getting rid of these. If they are gone, they wouldn't be replaced with something else. They are there because it keeps theme with the other two Sisters ships, and it will likely get used by at least some people for the occasional ghost site or finding sites or for future content that uses hacking.

No, clearly remote repair is what everyone always wanted in a battleship.

I like the +15 analyzer bonus idea but +10 is fine too since it's not there in place of some other bonus.

If this ship is really supposed to be used for exploration, it needs some kind of bonus to help it travel. Warp strength or bubble immunity bonuses wouldn't help it much at all. Cloak velocity bonuses would at least give it a means to travel in relative safety (cloak, align, warp, laugh at local, lose ship to gang at next gate).

The problem with giving it all the Black Ops bonuses is that it makes all the existing Black Ops ships not-so specialized. It's faction, not t2, so it can't/shouldn't do everything that a more specialized t2 ship can do.

I say let it ride covert cyno bridges and/or give it a jump drive that can target covert cynos; but don't give it the ability to use a portal generator or any other bonuses to cloaks (targeting/reactivation delays) so it doesn't eliminate the need/use of actual Black Ops ships entirely, especially not if they're less than half the price. (Hear that folks? Blops ships are "cheap").

No, clearly remote repair is what everyone always wanted in a battleship.

The problem with giving it all the Black Ops bonuses is that it makes all the existing Black Ops ships not-so specialized. It's faction, not t2, so it can't/shouldn't do everything that a more specialized t2 ship can do.

SOE ships already do stuff that other pirate ships can't: mainly exploration and covert ops cloaking.

SOE ships already do stuff that other pirate ships can't: mainly exploration and covert ops cloaking. A relatively simple balance to allow the Nestor to keep the covert/blackops theme without displacing existing ships in those classes is to take away some of the more powerful bonuses: keep the RR, switch drone damage for drone speed (for heavy logistics drones), take away the laser bonuses. Focus on one or two key roles in addition to the BLOPS function and SOE native exploration/hacking bonuses. The Nestor won't even need the cloaked speed bonus to do its job.

An RR BLOPS will allow people already using Widows, Sins, Panthers and Redeemers to be a little braver about using them in combat rather than exclusively using them as roaming jump bridges.

tech I logi frig? check

tech i and II logi crusier? check

pirate faction logi batteship? check

carrier? check

super carrier? check

seems logical to me.

Supercarriers have RR bonuses but that isn't, by far, their primary role.
If you're trying to make a sarcastic point about "which of these doesn't belong" then yeah, I would agree.

No, clearly remote repair is what everyone always wanted in a battleship.

I would like to explore more around mobility and its low mass.