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El Colli
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Posted - 2006.04.30 15:57:00 -
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Today the server disconnected over 10 times on me.
It happend before, but this is just too much.
I lost a dozen drones because i warp away when disconnecting leaving them behind and they get shot down.
I did a fresh install, run Add-Aware, all to no avail.
Oh, and i have a broadband cable connection...
If anyone has a clue or could help me out, i would highly appreciate it.
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Richard Cryshaw
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Posted - 2006.04.30 16:06:00 -
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Don't think it's your software side that's the problem. I would bet it is some bug lurking in the server side manifesto so you just sit back and enjoy the silence until CCP solves it...SOON(TM).
/R. Cryshaw
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Svanya Anton
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Posted - 2006.04.30 19:59:00 -
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I've been having this same problem for over a week now. I have tested my ISP connection to EVE's server; reloaded every driver on my machine; you name it I've done it. I've submitted the pingplotter's results to CCP as per their request and still I have this problem. Today I would crash every time I logged in as I warped back to my deadspace gate in Isikesu; so I was logged in for about 30-45 seconds before crashing. I have even uninstalled/reinstalled the game into a new directory vice default so I know the cache isn't the problem. Now I can't even get past the 'Logging in as...'
I'm convinced the problem isn't on my end anymore; I have done absolutely everything possible to prove that and everything CCP has asked/recommended.
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.05.02 02:24:00 -
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I have been experiencing the same type problems ever since the last major patch came in....repeated "connection lost to server" issues not long after logging on. I have also tried everything short of formatting my hard drive to try to resolve this issue (please don't bother suggesting all the things that have circulated the forums....I have tried them ALL).
Let me suggest a temporary solution that might allow you to play until this is resolved by CCP in the future. I have found that, if I go to the command prompt and enter "ping 87.237.38.200 -t" prior to logging on to EVE, I do not lose connection. I leave the ping tracer running in the background the whole time I am playing EVE. Have only disconnected one time in about a week of doing this. Previously, I couldn't play the game for even 5 minutes at a time. I hope this helps you too.
CCP....This appears to be something server-side. I ran two accounts with absolutely NO problems prior to the last major patch. Immediately afterwards, I started having connection and lag issues that have persisted to this day. I had changed nothing on my end. And since then, all the normal suggested fixes and all hardware driver/firmware updates (including bios flash and new router) have not fixed the problem.
I really love this game....Please fix this soon.  Thanks.
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Mattadore
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Posted - 2006.05.02 04:03:00 -
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Try checking the internet wiring in your home. If you wired it manually (that is, without the cable guy doing it for you) you may have done it wrong, and may be losing signal.
EVE use to disconnect all the time for me a couple months back. I called my ISP and they sent a guy out to take a look. Apparently the cable wiring I was using to connect my bedroom to the internet was crap. The signal was drastically degrading over it, and the line was only about 30 feet long. We threw it out, and he rewired my house and changed it so the internet comes out of the TV cable cable (not a typo) in my bedroom, then to my modem. Works great now, haven't had any disconnects since. If you don't think that's the problem, check it anyway. Mind you, just cause you can screw two pieces of cable together doesn't mean you know exactly what you're doing. Get a professional to do it for you.
-Mattadore
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Poncho leone
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Posted - 2006.05.02 11:00:00 -
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Well I speak to alot of eve players everyday and they do not have this problem, there is most likely a common issue between the people that have it.
ISP issues, home networking issues, firewall settings issue (This is a probable cause) also setting in you router/modem or even your computer setup.
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.05.02 18:55:00 -
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I am on a broadband cable connection wired by the cable company. I am running in DMZ mode past my router firewall. And besides, as stated in my post, this all began immediately after the patch. This was not a result of things changing on my end. It would be a HUGE coincidence to have ISP problems beginning on exactly the same day as the patch release and persisting to this day.
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Svenholio
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Posted - 2006.05.02 19:47:00 -
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I have just started having major issues with this. I will be able to be on for about 5-10 mins, then i get lost connection to server. I have been on all day today without this issue, the same as yesterday, but as soon as it comes mid evening, i get loads of disconnects, its really getting on my nerves. I dont have any network issues during the other online games which I am using.
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El Colli
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Posted - 2006.05.02 20:34:00 -
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It seems that for me it is all related to server load.
Yesterdag i could play all day when about 13000 people were online.
Now, when there are over 20000 people playing it happens again and way to many times.
It took me 15 minutes and 4 logins to get from an asteroide belt to my HQ.
I'm gonna try the ping solution mentioned above, see if that helps...
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Renfrew Shrufan
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Posted - 2006.05.03 00:13:00 -
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I feel I should mention, pinging some random server in Amsterdam once a second for ages is probably a bad idea.
Pinging one server that you use for any length of time like this (and assuming the server has competant admin) is a good way for a firewall denial of service attack auto rule to just automatically blacklist your address. I've seen this happen around a few times.
Besides, if this would actually help - it just points out that the issue is most likely network issues of some sort occuring at your end or between you and wherever you're pinging...
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Tashine
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:54:00 -
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Same problem- Continual random server disconnects over the past 2 days (Tues and today Weds). Was playing over the previous weekend and Monday with no problems (from memory !)
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.05.04 01:40:00 -
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Renfrew...I appreciate the advice regarding pinging. Haven't heard that before, and I certainly don't want to lead others in a hazardous direction.
I must say though...I don't think you guys are reading all of my original post. I repeat....NO problems before patch....PROBLEMS after patch. No network changes on my end, fellas. This looks like more of the same thing I see on other posts of this subject....quick, easy answers and no real solutions. It's too easy to just say "Oh, you're just having a network issue because I'M not having a problem". I don't buy that.
El Colli...I too have noticed a coincidence of disconnects and server load. I firmly believe this to be on CCP's end, not the end users. Too many peeps say the same thing...that they did not have this problem before the big patch.
If...big If...this is network/ISP related, why are there no fixes posted in the forums? Someone would have figured that one out by now.
I'm all ears....
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James Swift
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Posted - 2006.05.04 17:17:00 -
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I have been getting the same thing, frequent random disconnects, and it just started Tuesday and not a single problem before and nothing changed on my end.
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Sevenius Kaul
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Posted - 2006.05.04 20:51:00 -
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Same problem for me today, 7 disconnects in a couple of hours. No problems whatsoever before today.
I'm on cable connection (broadband)if that helps any.
Any tech team have an idea?
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Renfrew Shrufan
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Posted - 2006.05.05 00:08:00 -
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Renfrew...I appreciate the advice regarding pinging. Haven't heard that before, and I certainly don't want to lead others in a hazardous direction.
No worries. Usually, it's a non-issue, but it's the few times that it happens that can turn in to a huge pain to resolve.
If...big If...this is network/ISP related, why are there no fixes posted in the forums? Someone would have figured that one out by now.
How do you 'fix' what you have no control over, will very likely not be told about, and also be able to determine almost nothing about?
Unless you can directly prove that there's a problem at a very specific location, cite the reason, or generally be able to prove the problem exists at all - ISP's are generally pretty useless at even admitting they're screwing up. At least in the US, for residential service. Hell, half of the engineers I speak with (it's my job) I'd refuse to hire.
I'm having problems too that I thought I'd 'fixed', but it's provably local to my system and I'm fairly sure it's not Eve. I'm also not sure if my problems are exactly your problems though. Trust me, I'd much rather be playing than bughunting my own system too!
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.05.05 01:41:00 -
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Hehe...I hear ya.
Thanks for the input and patience. I'm not a tech guru, so problems that get this deep in the connection arena get a bit over my head. I really love this game and it is quite frustrating to not be able to play when I finally get the chance at times. After a year and a half invested in it, I'd hate to have to quit because of this server stuff.
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Sevenius Kaul
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Posted - 2006.05.05 22:25:00 -
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I think this is an ISP issue, personally Im loosing connectivuty to the internet after EVE disconnects, requiring me to reboot and re-log. I also have a broad band cable connection - perhaps the same ISP as El Colli?
Interested to see what other (more technically minded)people think....?
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Hait
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Posted - 2006.05.06 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Hait on 06/05/2006 00:59:58
Have been away for 2/3 days - tonight bloody awfull. 2 disco's in 1 hour - this is not a client "thing".
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Reaver Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.06 22:44:00 -
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Edited by: Reaver Coqua on 06/05/2006 22:52:51
Edited by: Reaver Coqua on 06/05/2006 22:50:25
Edited by: Reaver Coqua on 06/05/2006 22:48:19
Thank the gods I'm not the only one. For now I've the exact same problems for a few days now. I'm lucky if I disconnect less than 10 times a day.
I have tried everything, new drivers, new updates, opened ports etc. etc. Gone without sound for 2 days, shut down all bagground programs running. And all with the same result. Disconnection... And it's seriously starting to ..."annoy" me...
One thing I've notiched, is that I can run the game perfectly from noon to around 17-18(GMT +1) and after that I get constantly disconnected.
And no, I do not have an unstable ISP, because I've tested it. I can still surf the net after a crash without having to reboot. I also play WoW and there I experience no disconnections what so ever. Sometimes I even have Winamp Streamradio running and there are no disconnections there. And yes, I have tried running without that too, still the same result.
Please notice that there are no smilies in this post, so this is serious!
And WTF is this "No Thread with this ID - This thread does not exist." error message I keep getting after editting?!
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Duff Man
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Posted - 2006.05.07 03:34:00 -
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Edited by: Duff Man on 07/05/2006 03:35:03
Same problem, i have 2 accounts running on sperate machines and most of the time 1 drops while the other one doesn't. I'm a Network Administrator in RL, and if anyone here can explain to me how a client session on one box can drop while another client session on the machine next to it doesn't drop relates to a problem with my Network, I'm all ears... This happens way too often, and it reminds me of the early days of this game where the same issues used to occur. The problem was fixed for a long time and has only made a reappearance recently (Perhaps since RMR, not 100% positive as I was away from game for quite a little while).
*Edited for Grammar and its still very rouch 
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Darien Tain
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Posted - 2006.05.07 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Darien Tain on 07/05/2006 13:32:05
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Maori Aroua
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Posted - 2006.05.07 13:32:00 -
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I'm reciving the same issue, though it typicaly just closes EVE on me without an explination.
Broadband highspeed, And I Work for my ISP as a tech. Everyhting is to code, I don't have a router, my isp dosen't block any ports(one of the very few now) and This just started roughly a week ago.
Two flat re-instals of eve, my video and sound drivers and my directx and the issue persist.
Not stopping me from trying to keep playing, will give the ping idea a try at a lower rate than normal, see if that does something.
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Reaver Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.07 21:27:00 -
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FFS!!! Please do something about this constant disconnecting!
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Reaver Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.08 10:25:00 -
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I think I'll make this thread my personal random crashlog.
1. Crash today, only 10-15 to go - 12:24(GMT +1) CtD without warning.
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Saibotek
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Posted - 2006.05.08 17:39:00 -
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I had the same problem. I am on a wireless network, i thought my adapter failed. went got a new adapter still haveing disconnects WTF, reinstalled windows, same thing, all new updated reinstall of drivers. same thing. i noticed on the login there was a link to ping plotter. d/led installed run netstat/an found tranq's ipand started ping every 15secs. havent been disconnected since. no matter what adapter i use. so go get ping plotter and ping away.... works for me
p.s. did the logserver trick. case closed no response, no problem found, clear your cache...which still failed BTW. only fix for me was pingplotter. my guess is ccp dropping(inadvertantly) idle connections
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BushwickBill
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Posted - 2006.05.08 22:08:00 -
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Just wanted to chime in and say that Eve drops me about once an hour minimum and about 3 times an hour on average. I can't pickup ore in low sec or my hauler dies about every other run to NPCs or pirates when I lag out. I pay money for this punishment I'm receiving in the name of having fun and I'm not pleased.
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John Panek
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Posted - 2006.05.09 05:59:00 -
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I have got a new PC and after installing everything including net, firewall etc. I tried EVE this morning. But I am getting kicked off the game every one or two minutes with connection to server lost message. First I thought it may be my new firewall/antivirus/antispyware called Bit Defender. So I turned everything off, but the result is still the same. I have never experienced such a behavior before (I play EVE nearly a year now). Can someone please help me what may be wtong? Is the problem in my side, or on the server side?
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Natasha Xevious
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Posted - 2006.05.09 06:38:00 -
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All I can say is my too! Although not as frequently I would say about every 1 to 2 hours for me.
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Duff Man
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Posted - 2006.05.09 06:44:00 -
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CCP - It seems that there are many people bring affected by this issue. I'd really like, as well as expect at least acknoledgement that you are in fact aware that this is a problem. I play many, and I mean many online Games, including WoW and EvE is the only web game / application that frequently gives me Server disconnects...
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Reaver Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.09 09:42:00 -
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Actually they do adresse it.
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tranquility on ... tranquility?
reported by Oveur | 2006.05.04 16:15:38
We spotted and fixed the major issues that were causing outages during the weekend and early this week. There are however some minor issues left which this situation emphasized and we're now focusing on addressing.
Lately, we have heard of disconnects from Tranquility, but there have been no clear pattern to them. We would like to hear from you if you are still experiencing them over the next days. However, we should point out that many of the cases that reach us are traced to packet loss in transit to our servers. We suggest our you check out PingPlotter to check out your connection. If you are getting packet loss (redish stuff in the diplay) this is most likely the reason for your problems.
This is usually not located in networks under our control, but we have measures to address some of the problems. That is achieved with "multi-homing", multiple internet backbone connections to Tranquility. This provides your internet connection with other optional routes to access the Tranquility cluster and can in some cases fix disconnections issues, which is part of our long term connectivity plans.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Of course it's the usual "we didn't do it, not our fault" speech, but at least they are aware of it. However, this is occuring to often to be random.
Using Ping Plotter, I noticed that as soon as the trace reaches London, it gets unstabil and has random packetsloss.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.09 21:23:00 -
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New char.
Given up for tonight. Crashed 3 times immidiately after login...
Daytime playing went without any crashes, so was stupid enough to think it was over, think again.
Even then french provide better support than CCP, and that's bad.
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2006.05.09 22:07:00 -
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over the past 2 days i cannot stay connected for more than 30minutes .
never had any issues until now .
i have done everything i can think of all to no avail.
petition in and fingers crossed .
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Jelstar
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Posted - 2006.05.10 03:08:00 -
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I'm having the same problem. These issues started tuesday for me as well.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.10 11:06:00 -
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3 Crashes within 10 minuts.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.10 12:51:00 -
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Crashlog for May 10. 2006
4. Crash - 14:43(GMT +1). Tried running in Windowed Mode after advice from friend, no effect.
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Jelstar
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Posted - 2006.05.11 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Jelstar on 11/05/2006 03:23:57
This has been going on for 3 days now. Constant disconnects; atleast every 5 minutes. This is un-playable. Why am I paying a fee for this? :(
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Wraith101
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:27:00 -
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I have had the same problem. Usually about 3-4 hours b4 DT or so. Very random for me. I petitioned everytime and will continue until resolved. I live in the US with cable service professionally installed. I know its not on my end at all.
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agent green
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:50:00 -
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There have been many people posting messages here reporting problems with Eve. I've had these problems for weeks now and like many others have tried all the fixes posted on the forums. I've even gone as far as replacing hardware and fresh installs of windows. I'm hoping that this latest downtime and patch will fix the issue. If not then CCP will not be robbing me of my money anymore.
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Ladeda
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Posted - 2006.05.12 05:56:00 -
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Sigh game down since I got in from work. Now not seeing it is down am getting the unable to connect to port. Hope this is resolved soon.
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nthexwn
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Posted - 2006.05.12 06:34:00 -
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:(
I've been experiencing frequent disconnects since I signed up right around the time the bloodlines patch was released. I just concluded that the game was inherently buggy and that everybody had to deal with it. Are you guys telling me there are people that DON'T suffer from this!?
I'm quite competent with computers and don't have any other significant network troubles despite the plethora of applications I use aside from EVE. My ISP is Comcast and I have a 6Mb/128Kb broadband cable connection from Seattle, WA, USA. Perhaps this issue is regional?
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.12 10:55:00 -
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Got disconnected twice upon login...
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.12 13:11:00 -
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3. Crash today. 15:04(GMT +1)
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Pelath
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Posted - 2006.05.12 13:42:00 -
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A corp mate of mine is having similar issues. He is also cable broadband as several of you have mentioned, and also has no other problems with internet connectivity while disconnects are going on for him, and it happens later in the day (GMT +5) around 1700-2000. Possibly locale related?
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Jake Tyler
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Posted - 2006.05.12 18:34:00 -
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I too have been having this disconnect problem over the past couple of weeks, never had it before. Been trying most of the solutions offered. Very similar to others, tracer is fine up until London, then random loss.
Its fine during the daytime, but come peak 19k + players, then the fun begins..
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.12 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylee Coqua on 12/05/2006 20:45:20
6. Crash today. 19:29(GMT +1) Cold reboot, had to computer turned off to 2 hours. Crashed after 30 minuts. Giving up for now, feeling stupid for paying them to screw me around.
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2006.05.13 02:06:00 -
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This really isn't a client issue. I used to leave the client logged in all day. Now I run two windowed accounts on one PC and each one disconnects seperately probably once an hour at least.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.13 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: ZzeusS
This really isn't a client issue. I used to leave the client logged in all day. Now I run two windowed accounts on one PC and each one disconnects seperately probably once an hour at least.
We've already figured out that it isn't a client issue. It's too random and affects too many. From what i can gather, it seems that CCP's London ISP is of poor quality. I've run the Ping Plotter and in my country(Danmark) the connection is stabil(8-18ms), then when it hits London it gets ustabil and randomly looses packets(34-60).
The ustabil one is 4.68.116.11 ae-1-51.gar1.London1.Level3.net
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.13 13:25:00 -
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1. Crash - 15:07(GMT +1) Jump Gate, 10 minutes after login.
Lost mission bonus again. All in all, probably half the total amount of mission reward is lost, which is alot when summed up. So basicly I can only earn half of what i could on missions, if it didn't constantly disconnect. Even less if I was a miner, which was the plan, so that kinda sucks bigtime.
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Lrrp
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:02:00 -
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Well total shut down. first message is a server node is offline (broke?). Then message is Proxie server can't connect. So maybe for you comp. types there may be a clue here. Bad piece of gear that finally smoked?
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:26:00 -
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I'm also experiencing random drop outs, only since the last major patch a few days ago.
I was 100% stable before. Its very irritating.
I have a new, clean, fast PC with 2mb broadband - its certainly not a client-side thing.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:26:00 -
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I'm also experiencing random drop outs, only since the last major patch a few days ago.
I was 100% stable before. Its very irritating.
I have a new, clean, fast PC with 2mb broadband - its certainly not a client-side thing.
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Maleeka Mortus
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Posted - 2006.05.13 15:41:00 -
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I just started having the same problem after 2 months of no problem. I have not changed any settings or even added any software. What is interesting is this; when the game client lost its connection to the server today I immediately jumped to a command prompt and pinged the server, it responded nicely. Jumped back to the game client and it could not find the server. I spent the next hour on guild wars without a hitch.
I would also like to mention that many people believe that IBM servers are top notch, but from my experience they have been mostly substandard at best.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.13 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylee Coqua on 13/05/2006 18:04:46
4. Crash - 19:58(GMT +1) 5 minuts after login. Going to play something else. Screw the missions, they are wasted after all...
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Needa3
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Posted - 2006.05.13 21:52:00 -
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Its really starting to annoy me. Lost a whole can of crockite due to this.
CCP going to give us isk/ extra SP/ corp or faction standing ?????????
We are unable to plan anything. We better only train 30 day skills if this continues
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.13 21:54:00 -
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8. Crash (23:45 GMT +1) 4 Crashes in a row, attempting to dock.
Same friggin result each and every god damned time! Relog, Warp, Jump, Warp, Try to Dock, CRASH!!! Restart, Relog, Warp, Jump, Warp, Try to Dock, CRASH!!! Restart, Relog, Warp, Jump, Warp, Try to Dock, CRASH!!! Restart, Relog, Warp, Jump, Warp, Try to Dock, CRASH!!!
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slush puppy
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Posted - 2006.05.13 23:29:00 -
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same here . Gave in after 2hrs of it .
if it continues with the total lack of support im off .
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Kodos
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Posted - 2006.05.14 04:26:00 -
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I think I must have CTDd about 6 times today, it has only happened since the database upgrades, before then I never CTDd. This isn't anything to do with my PC or net connection as all was intact at times of crashes. It didn't attempt to reboot my client or state that a network connection was lost.
I think the times when I crashed was when I was looking through everyone at local, maybe I pressed show info on too many people in a short time? It hasn't done that before.
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Lorinar Irithel
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Posted - 2006.05.14 09:40:00 -
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I've had the exact same problem. Ever since they upgraded the DB hardware, I've crashed out about once an hour, maybe more - to date, this has cost me about 50 drones (more annoying than it sounds, considering I have to go back to Empire to get more...)
I'm seriously beginning to wonder whether it's worth paying for this game any more, when I can't play it...
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Hagen Stein
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Posted - 2006.05.14 11:03:00 -
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I had regular connection drops when I started to play EVE. Everything else going through Inet just worked fine for more than two years.
Low and behold I decided to see if there were more up to date drivers for my hardware available. I found more recent NIC drivers, installed them and since then I never had a "Connection to server lost" again (crossing my fingers, though  )
Perhaps this is something you could look inot and see if it solves your drops.
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Mkma
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Posted - 2006.05.14 18:42:00 -
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Almost two month old player here. I've had the same problem for a week now. I work as a IT-administrator so I know my system quite well and now it for sure that all here works like they should.
Seems that these sudden crashs happens during peak times, say between 17.00 - 23.00 GMT. Outside that time I have no trouble playing. No error messages or anything just client restart. This is not the first mmo I played but it really seems that it is the first one that I need to quit because it is so unstable.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.14 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylee Coqua on 14/05/2006 21:04:21
I don't even really play anymore. I want to, but no can do. I just log in, set the training skill(if i make it before it crashes) and i don't even have to waste precious time logging out, it just crashes out few seconds later...
20 Euro for a 5 minute skill training game, way to go CCP, smartest way to earn money.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.16 12:50:00 -
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Incredible, i was able to play all day long without a single crash yesterday. Let's see if today is just as good, before i get my hopes up.
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Rannoc
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Posted - 2006.05.16 15:06:00 -
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I am also see disconnects about once every 30 minutes. I know its not my ISP, we have an O3 line here at work. Its not my system either, I have tried this on many different systems and get the same drop rate. Seems to be related to the time of day, I am geuss it might have some to do with the LBFO on the servers.
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Frakel
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Posted - 2006.05.17 04:14:00 -
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Luckily, im not paying for this game. I'm on a trial account. My first day was great. My second day, just before i was going to log off, i kept getting disconnected. wasn't a big deal, but its annoying when your trying to finish one more thing and you get booted. today, its like every half-hour that i get disconnected (at the best moments).
I tried out WoW, and there was a major update that had a similar effect. I gave them time, and it got fixed. I'm willing to give this game the same chance. I'm not super impatient. I think i might have opened some ports for my firewall for WoW. I'm looking around for some fix like that.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.17 10:28:00 -
[65]
Hello, my name is Kaylee and I'm a crashaholic. I've been crashless for 2 Days now, but I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.
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Skyee
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Posted - 2006.05.17 11:05:00 -
[66]
I think that there may have been a problem with BT this morning. My connection went down just after 10am, and there is a message from my ISP to the effect that there had been a major router falure with there supplier who is BT Wholesale.
As Eve seems to have been down in the same period they may have been affected by the same fault.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.17 12:05:00 -
[67]
3. Crash today, 13:59(GMT +1)
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Kami Kior
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:01:00 -
[68]
"Connection to server lost"
Same story, random disconnects. If someone gets a ping-pong trick working, could they post a run-down to the trick here?
Curious thing, we have two players on our connection.
- When I started playing my trial account, I didn't disconnect once.
- The other player here started playing, no problems.
- My trial ends, and I register. I start crashing every day. The player next to me on trial account doesn't experience anything, while we play at the same time, same connection.
- Her trial ends and she purchases an account, and starts crashing.
- Now we both disconnect randomly at different times. And domr times it's so bad I disconnect every minute.
I don't know what it means, except that it's not my connection that has the problems. But why aren't everybody having these problems? How can I be one of them?
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.18 00:35:00 -
[69]
The trick is to get your money, it's like selling drugs. First batch is free(or in our case, crashless), after they've gotten your money, they can screw you over like they want to.
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Crossmen X
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Posted - 2006.05.18 04:12:00 -
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2006.05.17 00:11:07SHUTDOWN [3228]connection lost
2006.05.17 01:26:54SHUTDOWN [3948]connection lost
2006.05.17 02:22:18SHUTDOWN [844]connection lost
2006.05.17 02:22:28SHUTDOWN [3788]User requesting close. *after 2 min of not being able to click anything.
2006.05.17 02:57:53SHUTDOWN [2892]connection lost
2006.05.17 03:47:48SHUTDOWN [1224]connection lost
2006.05.18 00:05:24SHUTDOWN [3696]connection lost
2006.05.18 00:14:07SHUTDOWN [524]connection lost
2006.05.18 00:17:07SHUTDOWN [3804]connection lost
2006.05.18 00:23:15SHUTDOWN [3448]connection lost
2006.05.18 00:34:01SHUTDOWN [3752]User requesting close. *after 2 min of not being able to click anything.
2006.05.18 01:39:23SHUTDOWN [692]User requesting close. *after 2 min of not being able to click anything.
2006.05.18 01:44:36SHUTDOWN [352]connection lost
2006.05.18 01:55:40SHUTDOWN [3524]connection lost
2006.05.18 01:58:40SHUTDOWN [3976]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:03:19SHUTDOWN [3264]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:09:50SHUTDOWN [2068]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:14:22SHUTDOWN [768]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:30:11SHUTDOWN [3244]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:48:41SHUTDOWN [3892]connection lost
2006.05.18 02:51:50SHUTDOWN [3656]User requesting close. *after 2 min of not being able to click anything.
2006.05.18 02:56:27SHUTDOWN [3540]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:11:39SHUTDOWN [3128]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:21:07SHUTDOWN [3776]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:24:31SHUTDOWN [3688]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:30:26SHUTDOWN [588]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:36:19SHUTDOWN [764]connection lost
2006.05.18 03:42:11SHUTDOWN [3076]User requesting close. *me giving up*
HULK SMASH! 
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.18 12:48:00 -
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1. Crash today, 14:40(GMT +1) Don't even want to bother any more. Just going to play something else that works.
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Lars Dohn
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Posted - 2006.05.18 13:50:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Lars Dohn on 18/05/2006 13:50:32
A disconnect (not crash) happens when the server don't hear from the client in "some" time. The problem is that the client does not talk to the server when it's idle. The server think you're dead and just kill the connection resulting in the "lost connection" message.
This is what I've experienced.
To fix this (works for me) I joined the following channels : Help, language(my own), ships and minerals. This is creating a lot of traffic between my PC and the server, thereby keeping the connection busy and OPEN.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:07:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Lars Dohn
Edited by: Lars Dohn on 18/05/2006 13:50:32
A disconnect (not crash) happens when the server don't hear from the client in "some" time. The problem is that the client does not talk to the server when it's idle. The server think you're dead and just kill the connection resulting in the "lost connection" message.
This is what I've experienced.
To fix this (works for me) I joined the following channels : Help, language(my own), ships and minerals. This is creating a lot of traffic between my PC and the server, thereby keeping the connection busy and OPEN.
See, that could have been the reason, if not it crashed while doing something. Docking, Attacking etc. But that is not the case. Mine just randomly decides to disconnect...
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.18 15:13:00 -
[74]
2. Crash today, 17:05(GMT +1) Tried opening extra channels, no effect as usual. Perhaps i should just return to WoW, at least they help, even though they are french. God damn waste of 20 euro...
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Lars Dohn
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Posted - 2006.05.19 05:46:00 -
[75]
Just hanging for 10 min after comming out of jumpgate.
-> Lost connection.
2-3 min to relogin + 3 min for the freighter to warp back.
Christ !
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Crossmen X
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Posted - 2006.05.19 07:15:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Lars Dohn
Edited by: Lars Dohn on 18/05/2006 13:50:32
A disconnect (not crash) happens when the server don't hear from the client in "some" time. The problem is that the client does not talk to the server when it's idle. The server think you're dead and just kill the connection resulting in the "lost connection" message.
This is what I've experienced.
To fix this (works for me) I joined the following channels : Help, language(my own), ships and minerals. This is creating a lot of traffic between my PC and the server, thereby keeping the connection busy and OPEN.
I wish it were that simple, but I lose connection durring combat, chatting, and any other time. I will agree it happens more when I'm 'idle' though. Also riddle me this: If I am playing my main account and my second account at the same time, and they disconnect at different times. Wouldn't this mean that the issue wasn't local to me?
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Pain4u
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Posted - 2006.05.19 13:03:00 -
[77]
Crash !!!!!!!!!!!!!
BCCode : c2 BCP1 : 00000007 BCP2 : 00000CD4 BCP3 : 02020001
BCP4 : 83D01468 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 2_0 Product : 256_1
CCP : Get your fingers out and start working on this.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.19 13:04:00 -
[78]
I think we've already established that it isn't the client that's bugged in this thread...
And btw...
1. Crash today, 14:58(GMT +1)
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
ThaHandy
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Posted - 2006.05.19 13:13:00 -
[79]
Edited by: ThaHandy on 19/05/2006 13:13:33
2006.05.19 00:51:48SHUTDOWN [2992]connection lost
i was mining, lost 3 harvester drones 
i had another accout running next to it, and that one did'nt disconnnect
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.19 16:45:00 -
[80]
3 crashes right after login. All in all, it has taken me 2 friggin days to jump 7 systems!!!! And that was just ship number i was moving, 2 more to go. So in 8 days(CCP Standard Crash Time) I'll have moved them all..
2 days to move freighter to new station, use shuttle to fly back to old station 2 days, 2 more days to fly ship number 2 down, use shuttle to fly back to old station 2 days, 2 more days to fly ship number 3 down.
Earn 200k isk a day, all that is possible with CCP Standard Crash Time. 10 minutes to log in, 5 minutes to crash.
And nothing from CCP at all. Service and Support is apparently an unknown word in Icelandic.
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
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Doddy
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Posted - 2006.05.19 19:56:00 -
[81]
Personally i think its some dev having a laugh. Today i was crash free until deep in a complex then the game froze and i had to reboot. Surprise surprise by the time i got back my cyclone was in a hundred little pieces
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.20 00:16:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Doddy
Personally i think its some dev having a laugh.
Some of them? Each and every employee at CCP is laughing right now, while counting their phat loot from us...
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CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Kodos
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Posted - 2006.05.20 13:31:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Kodos on 20/05/2006 13:32:28
Originally by: Patch Notes
The client no longer crashes when rendering some Jin-Mei male portraits.
I think this might solve my CTD problem as it only happened when I did a show info, maybe it was a Jin-Mei male I was looking at each time.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.20 21:55:00 -
[84]
Hmmm, well I run 2 accounts all the time, until yesterday both were reasonable with one occasionally disconnecting. Today its been a lot worse. One disconnects regularly - (usual loss of drones!) - but the other has only disconnected twice today. Can't be traffic because the disconnect happens at random times including when in the middle of combat. Why didn't the other account disconnect? A corp mate of mine can barely play - as soon as he logs in, says one line of chat - he's gone! That's been going on all day! Never experienced disconnects as bad as this with Eve before even over 2 years.
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Anara Fiori
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Posted - 2006.05.21 02:13:00 -
[85]
I am having the same problems. Lots of disconnects but I think I am the only one in my clan having them. The game worked fine for several hours when I first started playing but that was late at night. Going to try the ping fix.
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Domdron
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Posted - 2006.05.21 14:50:00 -
[86]
Yesterday, we restarted the firewall on our masquerading router (Linux) and after that I experienced bad lag and disconnects. It turned out that we forgot to put a routing rule back in which ensures that packets do not have to be fragmented (MSS clamping). The whole issue is rather complicated, for a technical explanation see here. There is also explained how to fix it for Linux routers.
The point is that the problem can appear due to changes anywhere on the route to the server! That's why I thought this maybe fits some descriptions here. Anyway, after fixing that, it worked normally again.
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Cartierx
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Posted - 2006.05.21 23:44:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Kaylee Coqua
Originally by: Doddy
Personally i think its some dev having a laugh.
Some of them? Each and every employee at CCP is laughing right now, while counting their phat loot from us...
I cant believe they didnt just give you your $15 back and say 'dont let the stargate hit you on the *ss'
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.22 11:10:00 -
[88]
Yesterday (Sunday 21 May) was a terrible day for these random disconnects. Again the same thing happened where one of my two accounts kept disconnecting. This time I lost a Tempest. Great, what fun, (At the start of "Silence The Informant"). I finally managed to finish the mission in a 'phoon (No more cash left now), but whilst doing so there were 3 more disconnects. Well I know that might have been stupid, but sometimes frustration drives you to extreme resolve. Anyway, now I've decided not to do any more LvL 4 missions solo - if at all until this problem has a solution.
I still can't understand why one account is kicked, but not the other. There was a couple of occassions where they go like ping-pong; 1 off, then logged back on, then the other goes off, logged back on, followed very shortly after with the 1st disconnecting again.
No idea about what that MTU thingy meant although there was no mention of windows Xp.
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Bitter Digger
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Posted - 2006.05.22 20:12:00 -
[89]
Lost connection.
Had my freighter jump 30 jumps without any problems, then after undocking - pop - lost connection.
Arg.
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Nobler
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Posted - 2006.05.22 21:18:00 -
[90]
I have noticed this problem in the last three days...only when the player count exceeds 21K. I also cannot http://www.eve-online.com but I can get to any website, cnn.com; yahoo.com; slashdot.org; bbc.co.uk; and more..so I don't think it's my internet connection because I can dialup with my work laptop and use an aircard and still can't connect. I just tried to play with the player count at 23K, and I didn't last very long.
Since I cannot get to the EVE website when the problem occurs I suspect that there is something wrong on CCP's end and they are not owning up to it.
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Just Looking
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Posted - 2006.05.23 05:47:00 -
[91]
Hanging. Kind of "Lost + connection".
EVE just say "Jumping".
While hanging in jump, I can use the market etc. So I have a connection to the servers, but they won't give back control of the ship.
Weird.
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Duff Man
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Posted - 2006.05.23 06:01:00 -
[92]
Getting well and truly sick of these disconnections. Rebuilt one of my machines obver the weekend from scratch, installed all of the latest drivers. Crashes as usual, mostly when undocking from station.
Yet still no official response to this thread.
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Blood Wake
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Posted - 2006.05.24 05:02:00 -
[93]
I think what we all have learned here is this problem has been going since the last patch.(around 05/14/06)
1) Its CCPÆs problem.
2) Its a random problem.
3) Ether CCP doesnÆt care or is unable to fix the problem.
Two weeks is an unacceptable time line for me to have to deal with a problem like this and still have to pay to play the new EVE game. ôGuess the next second youÆll be disconnected.ö
I just restarted this game when all this was happening. After a 14 month hiatus I thought it would be cool and stable to play again. MY BAD they took 15 more dollars from me, to basically train new skills. Not much more I can do at this point but get kicked off there servers every 30 seconds to half hour. Hell canÆt even buy new skills half the time crashes 2 quick. Now I remember why I quit and wanted to come back. The game would be better than most MMORPG out there if only I could play half of the time or CCP cared or had a clue. Bottom line is just quit and donÆt look back there are a lot better games out there that donÆt have half the problems as this one and are willing to give you the time of day to take your money for you to have fun.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.24 22:21:00 -
[94]
Didn't play much Monday & Tuesday, but was on for a few hours today. 6 disconnects in total. 5 on one account 1 on the other. Disconnects occured during times when trading/warping/docking (but not every time), once during a mission and once whilst changing ship in a stn. 2nd account remained connected all the time throughout, but finally got caught and disconnected whilst the other didn't.
As the thread says, these disconnects occur waaaaaaaaaaay too often.
Disconnected both accounts the proper way and going to watch TV.
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Bitter Digger
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Posted - 2006.05.25 07:37:00 -
[95]
When I started plaing EVE 1 year ago, I could AFK mine from my bestower in 1.0.
I could go to bed and the next morning, target the next asteroid.
Now I get disconnected while on a 17 jump route in my freighter.
Too bad - this was a good game.
My guess is, that it's the client code that can't handle micro breaks in the connection. It should try to reconnect instead of just saing "Lost connection".
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Bitter Digger
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Posted - 2006.05.25 10:00:00 -
[96]
I'm so ******* tired of this client !
Was in the kitchen for 10 min - came back - lost connection.
Christ !
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Vehestian
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Posted - 2006.05.26 02:04:00 -
[97]
/me puts on the mitts
this **** is ridiculous
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Pain2u
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Posted - 2006.05.26 05:36:00 -
[98]
The problem has gotten worse since the patch 1 week ago.
Now I'm seing this problem on 3 different PC's.
Got 2 clients running on the same PC (powerfull) and guess what !
Only one of the clients crashed. The other worked.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.26 05:50:00 -
[99]
Same issue here. I continuously have random crashes/ disconnects. This reminds me of cold war, when I had this problem too, till CCP did something and everything was 100% fine again for me.
All that I can suggest is to send a mail to customer support. The extra information or extra cases could make this easier or a priority to fix.
I hope this gets fixed very quickly, because as it stands now I am not able to do 80% of the missions or any pvp combat. Basically the game is unplayable.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Lars Dohn
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Posted - 2006.05.26 18:23:00 -
[100]
Sending mails to support does not help.
Problem : The client can't handle micro breaks in the network connection (and the internet is full of them).
If you can ping the cluster, everything is ok.
That's why CCP is ignoring this problem and saying it's your ISP.
Solution : Set long skilltraining and don't play the game, just pay.
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Erwly
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Posted - 2006.05.26 20:48:00 -
[101]
Having the same problem too. When players number well over 20K then it happens.
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Nobler
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Posted - 2006.05.26 21:02:00 -
[102]
Is someone from CCP or the devs going to make a statement? This is a serious problem, especially when your in COMBAT!!! I think there is enough evidence in these posts to conclude that it is a problem with either the client or something related to one of the last patches. I think a lot more people are having this problem and they are not speaking up because they consider it "normal" Is this indeed normal? Maybe we have set to high of an expectation here. My connection problems started happening after they went to Microsloth SQL server 2005...why!? Did it really make that big of an improvment or just another reason to play with production equipment?
Please don't say submit a petition...those are worthless, and the devs routinly make comments about the big petition stack they have...
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Eharn Solicus
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Posted - 2006.05.26 23:24:00 -
[103]
Just something that may relate to disconnects where you are running more than one account.
For a while now a couple of friends come over to my place one evening each week and we have a small lan session. Since we all got into eve we've taken to playing Eve from 3 machines over the lan and use the 3mb connection I have. Couple of weeks ago, a third friend turned up. He also plays Eve so we were all set for a 4 person raid on a deadspace.
However, once we added the fourth person to the network, everyone started suffering random server connection loss errors. Once we dropped the fourth person from the lan, no further problems were experienced.
What I take from that is that over broadband, Eve needs more bandwidth than you might initially expect. If you are running more than one account you may need a better than 1mb connection to ensure they run without connection errors. Since we've all only recently started playing, I've no idea whether any of the older patches increased Eve's bandwidth requirements or not.
Now, the FAQ states, and I know of people who use it, that only a 56k connection (Dial-up) is required. I'm guessing that the client detects the comms method you are using and alters its communications to reflect the quality of the connection. Which would explain why a game which can run on 56k would not cope with 4 people over a 3mb broadband. Oh, and the connection is 3mb down / 384k up, for those who might wish to know.
As I said at the start, this probably only relates to people running more than one account via the same internet connection at the same time. Looking through the posts I'd say there is probably multiple problems at work, which is probably not helping those trying to get to the bottom of them.
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vx9000
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Posted - 2006.05.27 02:16:00 -
[104]
Don't worry guys it's not us, it's them. After getting disconnected too often and trying every tip I got on the forums, such as testing my ISP, my router, my PCs drivers etc, but then I decided to try one last thing I dusted off my copy of Half Life 2 online which is a heavy bandwidth game both upstream and downstream and it works perfect. Case in point, itÆs not us.
I read one of the DEV blog posting a few days ago where they admitted that when the server is heavily loaded it starts to act up kicking some players off line. This is strange since all the hardware "upgrades".
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Rod Steel
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Posted - 2006.05.27 11:33:00 -
[105]
I don't understand all you guys suffering the ctd's....I'm as far away as one can get from London (servers), and still stay on the planet (in Australia), and I have not had this problem in the 6 months I've been playing...had the odd crash when TQ went down etc, but nothing like what you guys are posting here...ironic.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.27 14:00:00 -
[106]
Heh - yes it is ironic. I live within inner London and probably only a couple of miles from the servers (although I have no idea where - honest!) but suffer constant ctds. Might be quicker if I got their postcode and sent the requests by snail mail!
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Just Looking
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Posted - 2006.05.27 20:04:00 -
[107]
I wonder if someone from CCP sees this thread....
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.27 20:42:00 -
[108]
I suggest you make contact with customer support at the moment I am using ping plotter to see if the problem lies with level 3 in London.
Today has so far also been a very good day for me. I've been able to idle quite long, do missions, fly around etc.
I only crashed once and that was when I was going trough the exact same router as I did yesterday, when I received a packet loss and disconnected.
With just only 1 crash today there isnÆt much data from me to draw a conclusion on. So if people like you would send the data to CCP you get from ping plotter I would assume things could be solved a lot faster.
Everything that needs to be done is explained by customer support and every time IÆve updated my issue, IÆve been given a reply back very quickly.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.27 21:12:00 -
[109]
I used to have use ping plotter when the Dev team ask for data a long time ago, but I don't have it any more as I have a new HDD and never transferred all the progs. Have you got the details for the ping plotter?
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.27 22:12:00 -
[110]
1.I'll copy paste some of the replies I got, here's what I 1st did:
In order to solve this problem we will need some information about your computer.
1. Please run the DirectX diagnostics tool: Press 'Start' and select 'run'. Type dxdiag and hit enter. When you do this, a window will pop up.
2. Click the "Save All Information" button that's located in its lower right corner.
3. Then attach the file to the e-mail and send us.
Best regards,
The EVE Online Customer Support Team
2. Then:
In order to thoroughly test your connection to the EVE server then I recommend that you download a program called pingplotter which is available here <www.pingplotter.com>. If you are running a hardware firewall (SPI Firewall) on your router you will need to disable it, as otherwise this program won't work. Run ping plotter and set it to trace to 87.237.38.200, this being the EVE server, then set it to run at 1 minute intervals for 60 runs and statistics to include these 60 intervals. After that then try to login to the EVE server with the program running in the background. If your connection drops while running the pingplotter program then check if you get any packet loss or unusually high ping times at any node along the way. Save the results and send to us.
Best regards,
The EVE Online Customer Support Team
3. After my first results:
We've heard that the Level3 provider has caused some stability issues for some players, could you please keep pingplotter running while you are playing and when you crash/disconnect check the trace to see if you are always receiving packet losses at Level3.
If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
Best regards,
The EVE Online Customer Support Team
Then I send the stuff I got today, but as I said before, I only crashed once. The rest of the day eve was running supperb and I haven't changed a thing on my side.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
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Seekes
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Posted - 2006.05.28 12:01:00 -
[111]
I just started a free trial of Eve a couple of days ago, and everything was going fairly well... a few disconnects, but not so many that I was annoyed. Starting last night (Friday), something must have happened due to load because shortly after logging in, my ship display locks up. I still have access to some of the UI, but the ship doesn't really seem to go anywhere. I've tried logging in again a dozen times to no avail.
It's a shame, since at first I thought the game looked promising. I already ditched WoW because of the server load problems, and judging from what I've seen in the game and in these forums; EVE is much worse.
Ah well... someone out there must want my money badly enough to give me a stable game. I'm really glad that this was a free trial.
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Kaylee Coqua
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Posted - 2006.05.28 16:29:00 -
[112]
Account cancelled, i an tried of this crappy service.
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SOE: "It wasn't broke, so we fixed it."
CCP: "It was broke, so we didn't fix it." |
Jimmy Tarmac
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Posted - 2006.05.28 16:31:00 -
[113]
Im having the same problems, losing connection quite a lot. Seems to happen every couple of hours at least. A lot of the time i seem to be showing info on something, or saving changes in corp when it happens. Dunno if that has anything to do with it.
I'll get that ping plotter and take a go.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.29 12:20:00 -
[114]
Okay guys I have no problems but I did have something like this a couple of years ago. The way that got solved was that everyone affected posted their ISP details a trace log. When we did that the commonality stood out. I would suggest you all do that.
tracert eve-online.com
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[Brackley, UK]
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Cosmomind
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Posted - 2006.05.29 18:48:00 -
[115]
I'm also having the same problems, losing connection a couple of times every day. Sucks...  |
Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.29 20:34:00 -
[116]
Boooohoooohoooo 
This week-end I gamed again, idled for an hour, did a mission, some PvP, lots of traveling and 2 times a clone jump and everything was fine.
Today I am disconnecting again... it just does not make any sense anymore.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.29 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 29/05/2006 21:44:04
Originally by: Mather Maelstrom
Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 29/05/2006 21:08:07
Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 29/05/2006 20:46:59
Boooohoooohoooo
This week-end I gamed again, idled for an hour, did a mission, some PvP, lots of traveling and 2 times a clone jump and everything was fine.
Today I am disconnecting again... it just does not make any sense anymore.
I have a question being a complete noob on this area, ping plotter seems to only show route changes continuosly at london.level3 the rest have the route is unchanged. Is there a specific reason for this router to oscillate?
At last! Someone actually going about this the right way instead of whining and blaming CCP.
I don't know what server changes imply but I suspect not a lot. Major junctions will often be served by multiple servers and each packet gets processed by whichever server is available when it arrives.
I do remember back in Easter 2004 that the C&W servers were alternating but what everyone noticed was that one server appeared less often than the other two and if I remember correctly most disconnections (visible as a packet loss spike) occurred very soon after that server stepped in.
Anyway a special note to those having a go at CCP:You need to consider how the Internet works. It's a game of pass the parcel. You pass the packet to your ISP who passes to another ISP then another ISP then CCP's servers. Even when not moving between ISPs the packet often moves between servers because networks often have an entry and exit router farm.
Disconnections imply that packets are being lost but if you have a 12 jump route (not at all unusual) it can be any of those 12 servers that is screwing up. Sod's law says it won't be any that belong to your ISP nor any that belong to CCP. Sadly that means there's sod all you can do about it. My ISP (Nildram) actually did try and contact C&W but unfortunately nothing was done by them until the Tuesday after the long weekend. Nildram did also look into setting a different route but nothing came of it.
This is why those having problems should post a trace route and their ISP. It's no good throwing your toys out of the pram and having a go at CCP. There are probably half a dozen other companies involved in getting packets from your computer to CCP.
Edit:Just a final point to make here - tonight we have broken the online record again. Trying to say that the problem is with CCP's servers or infrastructure just won't hold water. It's somewhere closer to unfortunate guys.
Tracert ftw.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.29 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 29/05/2006 21:48:11
Edited by: Andrue on 29/05/2006 21:47:20
Just to get the ball rolling here's my (stable and reliable) route
c:>tracert 87.237.38.200 > c:\tmp\wibble.txt
" 1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms lo1-lon3-adsl20.nildram.net [195.112.5.29]
3 18 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-1.cr2.gs1.bb.pipex.net [84.12.224.21]
4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ldn-b3-geth5-1.telia.net [213.248.100.29]
5 16 ms 17 ms 15 ms ldn-bb1-pos6-1-0.telia.net [213.248.65.237]
6 15 ms 15 ms 21 ms ldn-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.250.90]
7 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms ge-6-22.car2.London1.Level3.net[4.68.111.181]
8 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms ae-0-55.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.139]
9 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms 195.50.91.22
10 33 ms 34 ms 35 ms 87.237.38.199
11 33 ms 32 ms 34 ms 87.237.38.200"
Which is interesing. Looks like Clueless&Witless aren't involved any longer. Nice :)
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[Brackley, UK]
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.30 05:58:00 -
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Kept it running the entire evening.
Hop Host Name / [IP]
1 [195.190.249.17]
2 iawxsrt-dc2-bb21a.wxs.nl [213.75.1.209]
3 dcr2-so-1-1-0.amsterdamamx.savvis.net [208.174.49.65]
4 dcr1-so-5-0-0.amsterdamamx.savvis.net [204.70.194.81]
5 acr1-so-0-0-0.Amsterdamamx.savvis.net [204.70.193.145]
6 so-4-2.core1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [208.174.49.2]
7 so-4-0-0.mp1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.68.113.74]
8 ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58]
9 ae-0-55.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.139]
10 [195.50.91.22]
11 [87.237.38.199]
12 [87.237.38.200]
9 Switches contineously between:
9 ae-0-53.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.75],
this one had the most packetloss, though only 1.58% occured.
9 ae-0-51.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.11],
only 1 error, packet loss of 0.1%
Last week I recorded one crash when it swicthed to 4.68.116.11. 11 errors and 31% packet loss.
Seems that london1.level3. isn't causing a crash for you, which would mean something else is responsible for the crashes. I checked all of my stable sessions again and the route when stable is as follows:
Hop Host Name / [IP]
1 [195.190.249.17]
2 iawxsrt-dc2-bb21a.wxs.nl [213.75.1.209]
3 so-7-0-0.nar1.AMS1.gblx.net [146.82.33.177]
4 ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.237]
5 ge-2-0-0.mp1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.68.125.201]
6 ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58]
7 ae-0-53.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.75]
8 [195.50.91.22]
9 [87.237.38.199]
10 [87.237.38.200]
So not a single crash happened when I had the 10 jump route and crashes do occur with the 12 jump route. This is only speculation, some info from other players could be usefull.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.30 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mather Maelstrom
So not a single crash happened when I had the 10 jump route and crashes do occur with the 12 jump route. This is only speculation, some info from other players could be usefull.
You know that might be very significant. I'm not a routing expert but a change of route count seems odd. A change of router is probably no big deal because some points have several machines but a change of route implies either an intermittent problem with a route or else a faster route occasionally coming available.
In your case the crashes sound like they happen more with the longer route and I'm wondering if either the longer route is the problem or else you are switched because the shorter route fails.
That would make me wonder about the "Amsterdamamx.savvis.net" servers. Could they be a faster but less reliable route and sometimes packets are lost that causes the longer route to be chosen but leaves you with a disconnect?
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.30 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 30/05/2006 16:55:47
So the speed is about the same. With I think the long route on average a bit faster. Indeed is either completely the 10 jump route or the 12 jump route, does not change while connected.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Jimmy Tarmac
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Posted - 2006.05.30 19:47:00 -
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My problem seems to be with one of my ISP's jumps. Jump 7 has massive packet loss in ping plotter too. Typical Tiscali
Tracing route to eve-online.com [87.237.39.100]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms lo99.sfd-1-dsl.as9105.net [212.74.111.241]
2 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms ge1-2-26.sfd1.as9105.net [212.74.106.190]
3 31 ms 23 ms 31 ms pos0-0.not0.as9105.net [212.74.108.205]
4 31 ms 31 ms 30 ms pos0-0.lei1.as9105.net [212.74.109.225]
5 46 ms 31 ms 31 ms pos2-0.sa-bham0.as9105.net [212.74.109.214]
6 31 ms 46 ms 30 ms pos3-0.lon10.as9105.net [212.74.108.10]
7 * * 31 ms ge-4-0-0.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.73]
8 31 ms 62 ms 31 ms so-3-1-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.80.30]
9 46 ms 46 ms 31 ms ge-7-1.core2.London1.Level3.net [213.200.77.130]
10 31 ms 45 ms 30 ms ae-0-53.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.75]
11 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms 195.50.91.22
12 31 ms 46 ms 31 ms 87.237.39.253
13 46 ms 46 ms 31 ms 87.237.39.100
Trace complete.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:04:00 -
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Doesn't really link the two of us
I doubt I will do this much longer been playing for 9 days again since my injury and 7 of the 9 have been unplayable.
Patience is a virtue, but I can see myself losing a virtue soonÖ.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.30 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mather Maelstrom
Doesn't really link the two of us
I doubt I will do this much longer been playing for 9 days again since my injury and 7 of the 9 have been unplayable.
Patience is a virtue, but I can see myself losing a virtue soonÖ.
Yeah that's a shame. Eve is an excellent game with great staying power but obviously if you can't maintain a connection there's no point. It would still be worthwhile trying to pursue it with your ISP. Although they aren't directly responsible I wouldn't be happy knowing that some routes my ISP provided were questionable.
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[Brackley, UK]
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Tekniq
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Posted - 2006.05.31 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Tekniq on 31/05/2006 09:54:56
i am wondering if it could be another problem. i heard many times that the ISPs want to get rid of the massive traffic common fileshares are producing. ISP do traffic limit certain PORTS or random disconnects. Maybe the Problem could be solved if CCP would test another PORT for a few weeks. Or maybe the ISP thinks the massive Traffic produced by PORT 26000 (which is actually eves port) is by filesharing. Maybe writing some emails to them that 26000 is from EVE would solve the problem. btw. i am not getting that much disconnects (germany) and when i disconnect its because of my ISP (i see it in the log of my router - which interrupts DSL for 2 seconds randomly but less in the evening)... disconnects from eve without disconnect from the DSL line are very rare here... and its hard to notice because a little disconnect wont be recognized while surfing in the internet or something... ( But a game like eve need constant ping and absolutely no packet loss - doing much tolerance here would open the door for cheaters and exploits) i often do a ping while while playing and theres always some high ping and then 2 packet losses when the client disconnects. Its not a problem of ccp. the only thing they could do is increase the tolerance what would also mean to slow down (delay tolerance) the whole game...
not best english ;) just ask if anything questionable
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Lars Dohn
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Posted - 2006.05.31 10:26:00 -
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CCP.... Help us !
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:50:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Tekniq
Edited by: Tekniq on 31/05/2006 09:54:56
i am wondering if it could be another problem. i heard many times that the ISPs want to get rid of the massive traffic common fileshares are producing.
It shouldn't be an issue because Eve's bandwidth requirements are very modest and fairly predictable. You can do most things except fleet engagements over an analogue modem connection.
The problem here I think is that of getting your ISP to take the issue seriously. A lot of ISPs these days are used because they are cheap. Whilst the connectivity they provide is usually adequate the support is bad and for this kind of situation that is a problem.
I use the UK based Nildram ISP and if I have to call their support team I can usually expect to speak to them within half an hour (although at present the roll out of Max ADSL has probably got things a bit back logged). Better yet when you speak to them about a gaming issue they take it seriously. Back in '04 I had them calling me back and trying to talk to Clueless&Witless to resolve that problem.
Your typical bargain basement ISP is just not going to provide that kind of service or commitment.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.05.31 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 31/05/2006 13:57:41
Originally by: Lars Dohn
CCP.... Help us !
How? This is the point people have tried to make. CCP are only responsible for their connection to the Internet. Your ISP is responsible for your connection. The bit in between "The Internet" has nothing to do with either of you.
Think of your connection to the Eve servers as like a string of sausages or a passenger train. You are responsible for one end of the string/train, CCP for the other end. The sausages/carriages in between are supplied and maintained by other companies that have no obligation to you or CCP.
If your packets have to travel through 12 servers and server number 4 keeps losing them then there's very little you can do. You can email the administrator of that server but since they have no contract with you or CCP you're reliant on them deciding to fix the problem of their own volition.
The point of this posting is that you have to be proactive. You have to pressurise your ISP. They might be able to change the route to something better or perhaps have a better communication channels to talk to the server's owner.
Failing that try a different ISP.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.05.31 15:48:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 31/05/2006 15:53:38
The problem however seems that nothing is linking us, none of us is going over the same route and we all have disconnects which makes it more logical to assume the problem lies with CCP.
For all I know the one reason to have that 1 stable week-end could also be because the eve cluster crashed before that.
Those problems have, for most of us, started after the very last tranquility cluster 'upgrade'.
I also asked in local yesterday if people were disconnecting/ crashing from the few that read local some replied they had the same problems. One would do so each 30 minutes the other each every hour orso. It's to bad the problem is so widespread, but only a few report about it.
I remember cold war and everone saying it was my problem till one day it effected everyone and CCP did something about it.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:44:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Jack Creme on 31/05/2006 23:44:32
After a relatively stable long-weekend - with only two disconnects - tonight (Wednesday 31 May) experienced 4 disconnects within the space of about 15mins. Was on a Lvl 4 mission with another member of the corp so no drone or ship losses. But once again only 1 of my 2 accounts disconnect. I've been running ping-plotter at 1 minute intervals (The Freeware part) for 5 days, but it didn't/doesn't show any errors or packet losses:
11 Hops of which 2 Hops were quite long - (Hop 2--pc-62-30-250-65-ha.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.250.65]) with a Max of 126 (Ave 12)
and (Hop 7 [195.50.113.29] with a max of 155 (ave 19)
None of which means much to me. My 2nd account remained connected all the time, however, it was not doing anything other than drifting in space, whereas the disconnected account was very busy with the NPC rats & operating drones. Is it significant that the account is busy doing something. Most of the disconnects occur when carrying out an action of some kind?
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.05.31 23:52:00 -
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Just wanted to add that I concur with Mather. This problem only started recently - can't say for sure when - but probably after the last TQ upgrade.
It is also significant that a lot of other players are experiencing these disconnects but are neither reporting it nor adding to the forums. About 15 mins after my last disconnect, one of my corp peeps had a disconnect. I have also noted in local chat that peeps will say the same.
It seems a lot are being affected.
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Dracos Xenos
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Posted - 2006.06.01 03:25:00 -
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I'm having the exact same problem since I came back to EvE about 2 months ago, but since the recent patch its gotten worse. What happens for me is I'm unable to go idle what so ever... And begining a miner this is a big problem and annoyance for me. It seems the connection to EvE times out for me.
I've reinstalled, tested signal in my house wiring(former cable installer), tested with and without router, tested cable modem speed. Everything checks out fine on my side.
Problem is unless I keep chatting with corps or in local I DC in 1 to 2mins of idle time. I can never go AFK, and sometimes talking or not I DC. But seems to happen only when I stop typing or checking menus just watch myself mining a roid fer 1min or so Blame... DC highly annoying.
It's definintly not my ISP or my equipment. I play 2 other MMOs and have no troubles on either or any other over-the-net gaming. Definintly strictly an EvE problem.
Contacted support yet to receive a response... sent them dxdiag and ping plotter info... Nothing so far. But I wish they'd get this fixed I enjoy EvE but DCin' 15-20mins while trying to mine is too much.
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omni eye
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Posted - 2006.06.01 03:33:00 -
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I'm loosing connection every 2-5 minutes. Counted 10 times now in a row. HELLO!!!! CCP please restart the server or whatever :=)
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Jimmy Tarmac
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Posted - 2006.06.01 12:07:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Jack Creme
Edited by: Jack Creme on 31/05/2006 23:44:32
After a relatively stable long-weekend - with only two disconnects - tonight (Wednesday 31 May) experienced 4 disconnects within the space of about 15mins. Was on a Lvl 4 mission with another member of the corp so no drone or ship losses. But once again only 1 of my 2 accounts disconnect. I've been running ping-plotter at 1 minute intervals (The Freeware part) for 5 days, but it didn't/doesn't show any errors or packet losses:
11 Hops of which 2 Hops were quite long - (Hop 2--pc-62-30-250-65-ha.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.250.65]) with a Max of 126 (Ave 12)
and (Hop 7 [195.50.113.29] with a max of 155 (ave 19)
None of which means much to me. My 2nd account remained connected all the time, however, it was not doing anything other than drifting in space, whereas the disconnected account was very busy with the NPC rats & operating drones. Is it significant that the account is busy doing something. Most of the disconnects occur when carrying out an action of some kind?
Actually, I have noticed the same thing, 2 accounts connected, 1 loses connection while busy doing something, but the inactive account (sat in station) stays online. I think there may be more to this than just my isp tbh.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.01 15:00:00 -
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Got a reply yesterday evening from customer support nothing seems to suggest it's the ISP (at least for me). It apparently only affects a few characters, some people here with multiple accounts have some characters working and others not.
I'll give my character log in to a RL friend who has no problems currently with his own account, if he disconnects it would mean something has gone wrong with my character.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Dracos Xenos
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Posted - 2006.06.01 22:59:00 -
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Well after watchin' ping plotter for a couple hours all packet losses and TCP errors start at the level3.net sections one in chicago, and 1 in london. Everything from my ISP has no troubles. But also checked my router logs around the same time as crashes.... and it seems to think eve server is doing a smurf attack to me. Which is odd since it shouldn't be doing that. Gonna dig into that part too... but this still happenes regaurdless if I goto thru router or not.
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Dracos Xenos
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Posted - 2006.06.02 03:01:00 -
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Well after several hours of testing... several different router changes... and here's what I know... jack and squat... Everytime I go ide for longer then 5mins I DC, so I've checked my router log after every DC... and the odd thing is. It appears after 4mins of idle. EvE server attempts to comm to my computer starting at port 26000 from thier end but ending on my computer IP on ports that have so far ranged from 2417 to 3890.... and thats when the DC happens after my computer rejects the TCP comms after 5 tries by EvE servers... What's this mean I dunno. If anyone does kindly share. But I got my router setup for TCP 26000 and UDP 26001 just like support section says. I even opened ports ranging from 2400-4000 and well... EvE IP for server just tries a closed port... Any suggestions?
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Clarity
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Posted - 2006.06.02 04:37:00 -
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just like everyone else here I started having the problem, seemingly at random after the last patch.
day to day its different, some nights I stay connected and minimized for hours, other nights like today, I disconnect repeatedly.
the culprit for me is: ae-0-55.gar1.London1.Level3.net
I ping sub 50 until I hit this jump, which is 160ms average, and 30% packetloss.
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Wolfman Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.06.02 07:27:00 -
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Hello all,
I too have experienced what you're going through over the past month or so However i have not had a single log out over the past 3 days and no CTD and i've been on a lot too  This MIGHT be a potential fix although a bizarre one. Routers are a funny bit of kit huh! Check your routers outer casing temperature, if it feels even warm to the touch (most netgears!) Then if it didnt come with the plastic clips to mount it vertically (dg834gt and other modern ones, netgear seem to be aware of this issue) then make a stand for it so that it can be placed in a vertical position. (They overheat when in a horizontal position, most routers do unfortunately as theres lots going on inside the little rascals) In order to help keep your router cooler a mini desktop fan running off usb can help too. And possibly the more critical aspect is placement of your router on your desktop, dont let it sit within 18-20 inches of your comp or your monitor(as most of us use crt's for 1600 by 1200 resolution still for gaming) as especially in the case of your monitor it generates electrical fields with large field strengths (please don't criticise me for using layman terms this post is intended to try to help all) Using this combination alone helped to keep my connect solid for 3 days so far (wolfman touches a shed load of wood! ) I hope this helps anyone reading this, its not a guaranteed workaround but if it even helps one person then my time in writing this has been worthwhile.
Best Regards,
Wolfie.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.02 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jack Creme on 02/06/2006 12:25:00
Thanks for that Wolfman. For me, anyway, I had some thoughts about my wireless router some time ago and so I take my PC off our home router and connect it directly to my DSL modem (much to the irritation of the rest of the family!).
But now I have experienced a further problem in this connection problem. Last night (about 0030 Eve) I logged in on a PC at work. No problems with that. I was at work so couldn't really do anything except a little chat in corp - the work PC is fairly low spec and FPS is far too low to do anything anyway. Got home (love riding the night buses at 4am!, everyone is so friendly ) and thought, well, I'll play a little. No chance. Got as far as the "Logging In" screen and that was it. On both accounts. Filed a customer support mail and a Bug report along with the Dxdiag file and Log-server file. Ping plotter showing a clear route etc.
Having just got up, worrying about lost skill time, rushed to pc to see of customer support had said anything (other then the standard auto-reply). Nothing. Well not too suprised about that, I guess customer support is swamped, so waited until after DT.
Eve server is now up and... Bingo! Both accounts logged in as if nothing had happened. The only thing that that tells me is that, there's nothing wrong with my client - in the main anyway. This is all far too much for my tiny brain...
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.02 22:53:00 -
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Well quite a good day - only got disconnected, dunno lost count 15, maybe 20 times. Same thing - trading, jumping combat. And only 1 account at a time, although this time both accounts were busy doing stuff, so they both disconnected at different times.
Just sending another bug report.
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Blood Wake
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Posted - 2006.06.04 15:25:00 -
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I totally agree with Jack CrFme every thing he said is the same thing thatÆs happening to me. After about 5 mints of inactivity in a station shopping or on escrow etc. After about 10 to 30 minutes of mining or hunting I get dced but I can put my Indy on auto pilot and jump 54 jumps with out a problem most of the time.
So if we look at the facts here it really looks like CCPÆs problem ôat least from my point of viewö
Fact one: This all started happening around the time of the new patch. ôWe didnÆt change nor our ISPÆs nor our routers CCP made the changeö
Fact two: I can play outer online games that are a lot more intense than EVE with out a single disconnect on two separate computers at the same time.
Fact three: The other games servers are in a different part of the world than London. ôIÆm not sure how much difference this makes to the location of their servers vs CCPÆs server location but most people didnÆt have a problem with CCPÆs servers till fact oneö
Fact four: It appears to me to be a timed problem. Almost on the clock every 4 to 6 min of inactivity while setting in the station looking at the market if I donÆt psychically move something from my ship to my hanger or back I get dced. Space seems to be more stable with fewer dcÆs. and while on the move with auto pilot on its almost bullet proof for me.
Fact five: I run 2 accounts on 2 different computers and I think both crash at random times due to inactivity or if it happens to be a random thing not sure even though one seembs to be more stable than the other one not sure if it has something to do with the computer or account. ôIll look in to this more some time next weekö
Fact six: CP has had this problem before but it was more wide spread and they fixed it a lot more quickly. It had to do with a timing issue wile docking and undocking so they started timing the docking and ship changes. So even though this is not the same problem it is similar and can happen on their end.
The big question I have is why is it happening to only some of us and not all??? Is CCPÆs server not playing right with one type of router, chip set or modem???
All I know is I cant play like this it takes all the fun out of the game
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.05 11:47:00 -
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Sunday 4 June. Had a trouble free afternoon, but by 1930 Eve time starting getting the regular dc's for the rest of my session until 0300 5 June when I packed up. Listed points when the dc's occured:
Launched drones - 2
Started warp - 1
Slow transit in space to a distant object - 1
Refine activity - 1
Jumping through gate - 1
Stacking items in hanger - 1
Repackaging - 1
Being attacked or starting attack - 2
Undocking -1
Ran the log server and ping plotter - but they mean little to me but saved the files for another bug report. Since the second account stayed connected all the time (bar once) the log server ran continously. Maybe that'll help.
Nobody else in corp had the problem, but I am becoming a joke - don't do anything risky with JC, he disappears when it gets hot!
Is anyone getting any solutions to this, extremely frustrating, experience?
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.05 13:28:00 -
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Still crashing here too, but I've gone to 0.0 now tired of wasting time in empire. If I lose my ship due to a disconnect ccp can reimburse it for me.
Anyways I've done some travelling around; hunted NPC's and flew a dominix past 2 gate-camps to find myself quite stable.
Following things changed:
1. Out in 0.0 now
2. Running TS all the time when playing eve
3. Got 1 machonet folder from a corp member that I re-use every day.
I only disconnected once here in 0.0.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.06.05 14:02:00 -
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Blood Wake...You are spot on with your assessment. I have been having the exact same issues and, as stated before, this all started when CCP made changes...not with changes on my end. I disagree with Andrue's assertion that we are all suffering from ISP problems. I was running 100% fine on Eve before the last big patch and hardware upgrades. Now, I cannot run the game at all without running PingPlotter in the background constantly. If I try to play without it, I get disconnected from server. I refuse to accept the assumption that my ISP coincidentally made changes at the same exact time as the Eve updates....that just didn't happen.
This is a CCP problem, and one that needs to be addressed soon for its paying customers. I have been corresponding with CCP sending traces, log files, etc. as they have requested with no concrete help to-date. They made the changes....they should be tracking this problem down....not me. Just my opinion.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.05 14:25:00 -
[146]
Nevermind my previous post, only the week-end was fine. I just tried to play the game, but was continuously disconnected from the server ISP just fine.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Apropos
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Posted - 2006.06.05 20:42:00 -
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I had some problems with the connectivity the last 2 weeks and I was thinking it must be my router, since often I couldn't get through the login process!!!
But then a techie friend of mine suggested that I quit torrenting/downloading/networking at the same time because of a TCP/UDP restrictions in Windows: Windows XP can only handle a certain amount of TCP/UDP requests at any given moment.
I did shut down all my other network traffic and had just EVE using my connection and after that the last four days have been without a desktop crash and I've played at various times and been idle for up to 20mins sometimes.
So for me it was probably a Windows problem since I have a 6mb DSL connection which should be more than sufficient for EVE and a lot of other traffic at the same time.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.06 07:31:00 -
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Apropos - can you explain to a relative simpleton what you mean by shuting down other network traffic? Sounds a possibility that. Incidently, playing Monday evening from 1830 (eve) to 0030 had no disconnects!
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Apropos
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Posted - 2006.06.06 16:55:00 -
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Jack, by shutting down network traffic I mean that nothing is running other than EVE. No torrenting, no other downloads, no streaming over my network, no antivirus, no updates, basicly nothing running exept EVE.
I'm not happy about this solution since as I mentioned that I have a 6mb DSL connection and my home network is a gigabit network. But hey.... it works for me now.
There is a solution/hack for the Windows TCP/UDP issue that lets Windows handle more TCP/UDP traffic but I haven't tried it yet because I forgot what the program is called.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.07 08:18:00 -
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Ah ok thanks. I haven't changed a thing with the pc or I/N connection since this problem started because I'm a great believer in unintended consequences. Since I've done nothing to the PC this year, bar regular defrags, AV & spyware scans and so on and played for hours & hours without any disconnects before this problem. I'm convinced the problem lies in my Eve client or in its communication with the eve server. Re-installing the client doesn't change anything, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't there. Whatever the solution or work-round is it has to come from CCP and CCP have to say "We see where/what the problem is and we fixed it by doing this....". Now, it may happen that the latest or subsequent patch 'fixes' it; but it'll be through unintended consequences rather than a deliberate action. Because that's probably how the problem started in the first place.
Why it only affects a certain number of players is a mystery equivalent to "What made the Big Bang go bang?"
We'll see. After yesterday's patch I had a trouble-free play-time. Don't hold your breath yet, that's happened before.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.07 08:37:00 -
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The patch has not fixed the problem at all. Latest idea from customer support is to try and disable my soundcard. I already have sounds=0 in that refs.ini file, so I doubt it will fix anything (especially since before the tranq thing everything was just fine).
I believe it has to do with my character/ client, the reason reinstalling the game does not work is because probably the same error gets uploaded to my character everytime I log onto it (server keeps agent/standings/isk/skillpoint etc.).
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.07 09:56:00 -
[152]
Entirely agree with you Mather; if it was anything to do with your pc or pc's firmware that solution would have worked long ago.
It is interesting to read, in another post in this forum about being unable to log in starting on or about 10 March. Players never got past the 'Logging In' screen. A sort-of, temporary fix is/was to over-write a machonet file, cloned from another player who could log in for that day but it was only good for that day. What was intersting was that once logged in the effected player could only play for a few minutes, doing little or nothing before being kicked off.
Last Friday, 2 June, at about 0300 I couldn't log in with either account. After DT both accounts could. The random disconnects continued but not until after playing for some 5 or 6 hours. Something gets corrupted maybe. Who knows?
Client? - Well why only 1 acc goes down?
Character? - Well why only 1 most of the time, but sometimes the other very occassionaly?
Why does it happen when you have to 'do' something like open a trade window, or go to warp?
And why can you play for some hours before it starts?
What is the connection between being unable to Log In, this machonet file and random ctds?
I'm afraid only CCP can see all this. Any suggestions to fiddle with the PC is a waste of time.
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Plameus Xynthees
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Posted - 2006.06.07 15:21:00 -
[153]
I have issues being disconnected when I'm at work, but never at home. We have similar network setups but differetn ISPs. I use Speakeasy (Covad)at work and Verzion DSL at home. Supposedly Speakeasy claims to be ISP for gamers and they advertise low-latency, etc. Not the experience I've had. I've only used the most recent client, so I don't know how this issue has evolved from previous patches. |
Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.07 19:50:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 07/06/2006 19:53:44
I haven't had any logging in problems, I did read that post however and that post ahs a lot of poeple with disconnection problems just like we have.
So I tried using somebody elses machonet file, however it did not work, I kept crashing.
I also have sometimes a stable session where the game just keeps on going A+ untill I log off. If I would come back 5 minutes after that I could be having contineous disconnects again.... and that just makes 0 sense to me.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Jake Tyler
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Posted - 2006.06.07 19:56:00 -
[155]
Tried exactly the same things as you Mather, and a few others..then it was fine for over a week, no problems at all.
Now the disconnects have started again this evening..getting tetchy now.
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Bin Q
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Posted - 2006.06.08 07:58:00 -
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For a few past days the Internets have been broken after .gblx
Quote:
4 * * * [-]
5 -32764 ms -32764 ms 30 ms so0-0-0-2488M.ar1.AMS1.gblx.net [67.17.65.230]
6 119 ms 75 ms 36 ms ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.237]
7 36 ms 32 ms 37 ms ge-2-0-0.mp1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.68.125.201]
8 42 ms 39 ms 36 ms ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58]
9 -32764 ms -32764 ms 37 ms ae-0-51.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.11]
10 38 ms 38 ms 241 ms [195.50.91.22]
11 39 ms 40 ms 40 ms [87.237.38.199]
12 40 ms 41 ms 39 ms [87.237.38.200]
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Lars Dohn
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Posted - 2006.06.09 05:59:00 -
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A lot of "Lost Connection" this morning.
Only 13k users online...
Damn.
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K33per
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Posted - 2006.06.09 08:21:00 -
[158]
/sign
game gettin' worst novaday...
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Owi
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:39:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Owi on 09/06/2006 09:44:24
i can play 24hours and gettin no disconnet! its your PC-System not eve !
check your firewalls/ports ect. or clean up you system !
EvE have awsome servers with a realy good connection !
I say its 99% a problem of the clientside not the serverside ! btw befor someone flame me...im proffessional PC user with div. certificats and expierence.
A allaround answer is not possible about you all have to different systems / networks !Basicly try networktools to optimize connection and Windowssettings (TCP-IP optimizer - DSL-DF_ Booster ect. !
- E v E - D r u g d e a l e r -
ALTZ Racin Team
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Kelso Bluebane
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Posted - 2006.06.10 15:52:00 -
[160]
Ok came back of holiday last sunday since then i've been disconnecting constantly, frequency varies from a couple of minutes to maybe an hour or so. The circumstances are variable from doing not much in station to running missions.
Seems as if theres a problem talking to the server.It can be anything from activating a module to typing chat. The game hangs for a few seconds then u get the lost connection message in game, followed by a CTD.
I've run pingplotter and there seems to be a problem on the 3rd stage packet loss runs constantly from 50-100%. I notice the route to the eve servers seems alot different from the last time i had connection problems ( 1 year ago ) not sure if this is relevant.
I havent upgraded any hardware lately, ISP is AOL and connecting through a BT voyager 2100 router. Not really technically minded but the clues point to something in a recent patch because prior to this i rarely CTD, its always been unable to connect before.This doesn't rule out the possibility of a problem with AOL or BT but they both claim everything is working fine
Hopefully a solution will spring up soon, any help would be appreciated
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.10 18:24:00 -
[161]
2 trouble-free days after the Tuesday patch. 1 Disconnect on Thursday, 1 on Friday. No changes to PC system, ISP or anything else. Ping-plotter continues to show no packet losses or errors. This is pretty well much like Eve was for me a couple of years ago - i.e. a disconnect every now & then. Replies from a GM have suggested that I tweak RAM speeds and run the 2nd account on a second Eve installation. I have tried the latter but it did not make any difference; do not intend to tweak the RAM as I don't believe it'll make any difference. But as there was no discernable, "Ah, we know what the problem is..." type reply, I guess there isn't a direct solution and maybe it'll just go away... Maybe not...
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.06.10 19:45:00 -
[162]
Owi...You may be a technical guru, but you obviously didn't read all the posts in this thread. You want to try to convince me that my computer (the same computer that connected to Eve with no problems at all and maintained connection prior to the last big patch) just COINCIDENTALLY started having problems on the SAME DAY CCP made changes??!! Give me a break....take you "all your computers are just broken" response and your know-it-all attitude to some other thread please. That doesn't help anyone here.
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F1ght Club
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Posted - 2006.06.10 20:22:00 -
[163]
Edited by: F1ght Club on 10/06/2006 20:22:07
:(
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esquimo leviticus
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Posted - 2006.06.10 20:25:00 -
[164]
Have had no problems until today, on the whole, afterall you should expect the occasional boot, that would be fair enough.
Now it's happening every 5-10 mins :(, I have clearedv the cache to no avail.
In one word, Gutted.
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Jake Tyler
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Posted - 2006.06.11 15:45:00 -
[165]
Originally by: esquimo leviticus
Am amazed that CCP has not verbally acknowledged this thread, that speaks very loud and clear to me and is not a very good reflection upon the quality service i thought they provided. V gutted indeed. Eve is a Product like any other and if folks dont get some sort of help, even if it is client side, they will probably go and play somewhere else, as folks have already stated here.
Been the same for me today again..dropped 4 times in 10 mins.
Cannot understand it either why theres no official recognition to this thread..
It started for me with the last patch, some days no problems, then like today,its just "give it up" day.
The large number of people posting with the exact problem either suggests we are the unluckiest bunch of people all with the same problem, or there ARE issues CCP side.
Been playing over 2 years now, and always found their help excellent when ive needed it. Perhaps its mass hypnosis and our machines are fine really...now whats that i hear in the background...
"Look into my eyes,not around my eyes,my eyes, look into my eyes..."
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Adila
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Posted - 2006.06.11 17:56:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Adila on 11/06/2006 18:00:41
Changing "UDP session idle timeout" on my router from 30 seconds to 120 seconds seems to have improved my stability. of course it's only been running well for 30 min now, but given that it was dumping me every 2-5 minutes I take that a good sign.
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Mala Kai
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Posted - 2006.06.11 19:47:00 -
[167]
Impossible for me to play today, have had 7 disconnects the last hour.. My TS crashes to though, so I have a feeling the problem is on my side..
IS there any computer genious in here who could make a thread or a guide on how to clean up your system.. Maybe links too programs to use to optimize you connection.. Anything that could help..
Lot of people seem to have a problem, any constructive idTas? Anyone???
And just saying: Optimize you connection, and thigs like that is not really helpful.. Question is how?
Would be very thankful for a bit of help.. :)
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soul finder
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Posted - 2006.06.12 06:07:00 -
[168]
From what I figure the constant "loss of connection" is because of the latest patch. I have been playing EVE since Jan.06 and have never had this type of problem at all. Support advised me to disable sound card which I did, but it didnt help with the loss of connection. They need to put a new patch out in order to fix the mess up with the old patch.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.12 09:33:00 -
[169]
Played a 10 hour session Sat to Sun 4am with no disconnects. Sun(pm) only 1 disconnect but during a period when there was a lot of game lag. After logging off for 3 hours or so I returned and experienced no further disconnects.
As I've said before I have not changed anything except I did submit a report to Customer Support a week or so ago. I didn't receive an emphatic response.
I have an impression that nobody knows what causes the disconnect problem and hence what a solution might be.
I'll wager that thousands of accounts are experiencing the problem but mostly at the level I'm now experiencing i.e. once or twice a session. The players just log back on again and carry on playing - without giving it much thought, not reporting it and not viewing or adding to this forum. Well why would they? It's in the nature of on-line games or any PC game for that matter.
A small percentage, however, seem to get hit with the problem to the exent that it makes game play almost impossible. I have no idea why though.
In my experience I can only suggest that if your PC is fine for doing everything else and was fine with Eve before the problem started, then do nothing with it. The problem might just go away after a time. Meanwhile don't do anything too risky - you might lose a lot of Isk
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Chribba
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Posted - 2006.06.12 11:25:00 -
[170]
I'll add myself to the list of people getting many random disconnects, no matter if which connection I use at the time all get random disconnections.
And no changes have been made to my network at all. I might suspect that somewhere along the line there is some ISP utilizing QoS and I doubt port 26000 has prio - if this is the case.
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Owi
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Posted - 2006.06.12 13:54:00 -
[171]
Edited by: Owi on 12/06/2006 13:55:59
yaa yaa yaa !
let me tell you somethin ! i reinstall almost every 1/2 year my Windows.. sometimes 1/4 year (wont explain why)
so .every time i have a clean install im gettin the same dc some of you talkin about and what is to find first the fault on my side ! Its easy to point at ccp but hey tell you what : 100% i find the fault on my side ! Its f***** windows-defaultsettings or firewalls ! And yes if they deploy a new patch somethin changes on your PC , sure its easy to point right here to ccp ..but what i want try to say >> check your PC first ! I know alot of you are just eable to hit the power button ... but why not try to find the fault ! I wouldt like to help ya guys but i need to come to your home , discussions on forum about PC issues are hard to fix in my opinion , at least for me it wouldt take to much afford in the support .
i can giv you a good tip! google for TCP/ip Optimizer or soem kind of other dsl-booster or dfn optimizer !YOu just need to check if the programm supports you connection modem , dsl , wlan ect. !
I play eve on 2 PC .. the old one is a AMD800 with 512 sdram and a 32mb geforce mx400 ! i dont get any DCS with it either even the lag is messy sometimes...but no wonder with kind of crap pc like that for a massiv multiplayer gamer !
- E v E - D r u g d e a l e r -
ALTZ Racin Team
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.12 20:04:00 -
[172]
Owi do us all a favour and stop posting here. I am probably not the only one who is annoyed by your; "not at all helpful replies here."
So people I've been playing quite stable for the past few days, I did the following:
1. Download latest client patch
2. Delete the eve folder and all files under it
3. Install new client
4. Rearranged all those bm's (again)
Game play has been rather good, with hour long sessions and hardly any disconnects. Nothing else has been changed.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Milnoch
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:26:00 -
[173]
Well I'm glad to see I'm not the only one recently affected by this. I can't pinpoint the exact day this started happening but I know I had at least two solid weeks of zero issues and then in the past week i'm getting constant discounts. Like some others I'm seeing regular small sub 20% packet loss at various places along my packet route. After playing around with Eve a bit though I suspect the problem is not with packets being sent from the client to the server but rather with packets being sent from the server to client. I'm lead to beleive this based on a few things. a) i'm currently training up a bunch of 12 and 15 minute skills. Guess when I discount? When those skills complete. I don't end up getting a skill complete message which is a server side trigger. b) When attempting to fight rats I'll notice that I'm no longer firing ammo/missiles etc. However I can often still send chat to the corp channel etc. i can confirm that those packets are going as by using the monitor window. And talking to my corp mates. However it's really obvious that no packets are coming back in. Along with this thought is the amount of ammo missing when logging back on (along with the dead rats) leads me to beleive that the client is still sending data but it's the return path from the server that isn't happening.
I've cleared cache and all that jazz. I guess I will do a clean install tonight in another folder and see what happens. I'm not to thrilled about reorganizing bookmarks though.
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InCiNeRaToRX2
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Posted - 2006.06.12 21:41:00 -
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Same here, @ this moment i have the same problems.
Loggin in. I can open some of the menu`s and than the game freezes up.
I can change the local game properties. But my skills aren`t completing.
I have an fress new Windows XP SP2 installed,
Newest Nvidia drivers for an 9700gtx.
1gb dual mem.
Nforce4 chipset.
using no firewall (switched off)
using 2 Nat's, on a 6mb/786kb adsl internet connection.
Other games (mmorpg's, shoot'm up) work fine.
Tried another NIC. Nothing works.
Only in the midday when the server is less in use.
There are no connection troubles, exept for some lag's.
Maybe it's smart to make an connection counter (reaction time) in the gui.
So the client knows when the connection is to slow!??!
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.06.13 13:58:00 -
[175]
Originally by: esquimo leviticus
Edited by: esquimo leviticus on 11/06/2006 00:01:05
Eve has today started kicking me out of game every 5-10 mins :(,
Same. I've had 4-5 annoying disconnects per day since the last patch (previously: none I can remember), but right now I'm getting disconnected every 2-3 minutes (a total of 7-8 times so far). Everything else works fine for me (web sites etc.) and my system hasn't been touched and isn't running anything different since before the patch.
Unbearable.
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Sulakem
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Posted - 2006.06.13 15:51:00 -
[176]
Add me to this list though my problems started after this last patch not the one way back. I was begining to think I might be suffering a random hardware failure but so far all the testing has disproved that theory. My disconnects are very random but happen often enough that its noticaable as something more than just the usual, to be expected, disconections associated with online games. I am still in the process of trying all the suggested fixes/tests but wanted to post that I am now seeing the same thing in random disconects. Havent changed anything on my end and before now was able to run two accounts never having had the disconnection issue at all until the last several days.
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Devanesc
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Posted - 2006.06.13 17:17:00 -
[177]
/signed. Random disconnects with a stable net connection. I can access and play any other online game or web-page with no difficult, but Eve jut refuses to co-operate
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greywinged
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Posted - 2006.06.13 18:35:00 -
[178]
been having an increasing amount of disconnects since downtime today (lots of them during past few days, but not as bad as now). Its up to the point where i can only login and it will lose connection almost right away.
Situation has been improving over the past hour and over the last 15 minutes im monitoring ping plotter and the delays seem to be caused by
213.244.165.237 ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net
It used to be 200+ ms but its been improving but still reads high values, usually 100+ with the odd 20ish ms.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2006.06.13 21:30:00 -
[179]
Originally by: greywinged
been having an increasing amount of disconnects since downtime today (lots of them during past few days, but not as bad as now). Its up to the point where i can only login and it will lose connection almost right away.
Situation has been improving over the past hour and over the last 15 minutes im monitoring ping plotter and the delays seem to be caused by
213.244.165.237 ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net
It used to be 200+ ms but its been improving but still reads high values, usually 100+ with the odd 20ish ms.
6 157 ms 199 ms 62 ms ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [213.244.165.237]
Been having the same problem most of the day. Disconnect frequently, sometimes right after I login. Tracert I did earlier today I had over 500ms to ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net dunno if that is the fault, but could be.
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
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Belmarduk
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Posted - 2006.06.14 01:28:00 -
[180]
This is getting silly now - it seems to be getting worse from day to day.
NOTHING changed on PC and other online game runs with zero lag and no probs
ccp PLEASE do something !!!
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Hober Zarel
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Posted - 2006.06.14 05:48:00 -
[181]
Something needs to be done about disconnects. Last night I was disconnected at least 10 times in less than 1 hour. Tried every trick in the book, but nothing made any difference.
Everything else runs just fine, so it's not likely to be caused (only) by my pc or connection.
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InCiNeRaToRX2
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Posted - 2006.06.14 07:09:00 -
[182]
Maybe i found something worth checking.
What i do :
I start pinging the eve server.
Results : +/- 20ms perfect!
Then i start the game log in.
Results : -20Ms, 40ms, -15ms, -16ms.... negative ping responses!!!
Why is this happening??? Is the game srewing with my winsock?
Is there anyone else encountering this problem.
I've dubbel checked the ping with another PC on the same internet link, at the same time and PC2 doesn't have negatives.
Ping results from pc1 to an other adress on inet (like www.hotmail.com) doesn't give any negative results.
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Happster
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Posted - 2006.06.14 08:42:00 -
[183]
I have connection problems as described here too. And theres no doubt to it, its game related and not a network problem on the client side.
The disconnect problems is time based. During few ppl online, i never get disconnect. But as more and more ppl get on, the more ofte i get disconnects.
Also....it seems as what kind of systems your in also affect it. The more ppl in same system the more chanse of a disconnect. Was in Jita yesterday and wasnt even able to login for ages. My alt was in a more quiet system (less ppl) and had no problem login.
Still had disconnect with my alt, but atleast i could login and actually do some stuff.
I found a graph in here some place that shows the activity / time. And its easy to see i get the most disconnects during the peaks of ppl online in eve.
And yes....it was pretty stable and fine before the last patch. Had minor disconnect probs at peaks back then too......but they were rare.
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Tanaa Rentac
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Posted - 2006.06.14 09:27:00 -
[184]
I too experienced a lot of disconnects. And no, it's not a problem of my ISP, the connection is fine. I tried to log on yesterday (13.06.2006) and gave up after 15 minutes. So I was forced to play World of Warcraft which I did 3 and a half hours straight without any sign of connection problems.
What is even more curious is that sometimes when I play EVE on two computers at the same time (yes, I have two accounts ) only one client gets disconnected while the other is still working. Needless to say both computers share one internet connection.
A little hiccup once in a while isn't bad at all. But getting disconnected 5-7 times a night or not being able to log on at all isn't that funny.
I honestly hope CCP will have a look at this.
Tanaa
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Silver Echo
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Posted - 2006.06.14 10:16:00 -
[185]
Me too, I have disconnect problems, as described earlier in the topic.. I am behind adsl router. I've never had any network problems with any mmo game nor www. Disconnects are totaly random, I think - sometimes I get 3 per hour, sometimes 3 per day and sometimes I get DCed every 5 minutes. Please CCP do something about this problem or I will have to cancel my account. And yes, those problems appeared for me after last patch.
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Quarantine
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Posted - 2006.06.14 13:57:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Quarantine on 14/06/2006 14:02:56
Same problems, certainly has something to do with server load. During the less busy hours of the day I rarely get disconnects, during evening (euro time) the login stops at entering game, setup station or about 10 seconds after loading the game. It doesn't seem to be character and/or system related, since I have exactly the same problem with multiple chars and accounts.
edit: I should add that this disconnects happen regularly whenever there is no interaction between me and the client (i.e. afk autopilot flight through empire or station idling) after approx. 15-30 mins.
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.06.14 14:53:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Quarantine
Edited by: Quarantine on 14/06/2006 14:02:56
Same problems, certainly has something to do with server load.
It may be more time of day based than load based, I suspect that the football WM 2006 has something to do with it, some backbones or some ISPs near CCP's server farm can't take the load (perhaps someone is streaming stuff nearby, or operating a busy forum).
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Drek Grapper
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Posted - 2006.06.14 15:58:00 -
[188]
Hello all...
I would just like to add that i am having disconnect issues as well. I have had the odd 'disconnect' problem before but was always able to log back on and continue with the game with no other problems...
Today i logged on to play in my lunch hour and wen i left dock i was disconnected after about 5 secs.
I logged back on and was warped back to the station only to be promptly disconnected once agin. This has happened 10 times in a row now and i'm starting to get a little ****ed!
And no its not my system...CCP please fix this soon or my 14 euro's a month will start to seem like a big waste of money.
I have left it for another hour and tried agin with the same results.
I wld like to add that i have not suffered from this problem before and i am certain that it has nothing to do with my PC or any other 'client' based issue.
This is an internal CCP problem definately.
Please fix.
Please.
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Jake Tyler
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Posted - 2006.06.14 18:29:00 -
[189]
Its happened again, definately a system/peak time issue..logged on before work this morning, just to jump around,dock etc, was fine for half an hour and left it logged in, checked just before DT, still connected. So disconnected and went back to work.
Came back tonight, 20k players, same system..Eve goes back to normal...ie kicks me after a couple of minutes and 1 jump..relogged, managed to dock, then kicked again.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.14 22:59:00 -
[190]
If anyone hasn't already seen it - look at Mandrake's Sticky at the top of this forum - re known issues.
PS. No random disconnects for me in the last 3 days...
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Derra Incap
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Posted - 2006.06.16 00:52:00 -
[191]
M'kay, I'm getting a bit fed up waiting for CCP to fix this and I want to put to bed the idea that the problem lies with PCs or installations.
I'm currently working away from home at the mo' so I have Eve installed on my laptop. During the week I get no disconects at all. Not once. In 3 months (I'm usually online 4-5 hours on 2 or 3 nights).
However, I take my laptop home for the weekends and I may as well not bother - I can't go 10 mins without a disconnect. Undocking, opening the market, warping & chatting seems to be the points that the disconnects happen the most. I usually spend the few minutes I'm online at the weekends watching my SPs increase 'cause thats about as exiting as I can risk
The only difference between my 2 setups is the firmware in the routers (both Origo ADSL routers, but I've upgraded the firmware on my home one) and the ISP (BT at home and f2s away).
I'm perfectly prepared to accept that Eve may have a problem with my home router, but WHATs the problem? Is it closing sockets that it shouldn't? Or timing out connections too soon?
I could probably fart around with the configuration on my home router, but what would be the point without knowing what I need to change?
Well, I'm away to bug report this and I've taken a couple of logs. At least I can play during the week, which is more than some of the poor buggers on here can say. |
Mala Kai
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Posted - 2006.06.16 01:07:00 -
[192]
Have had problems with constant disconnect just like everybody else, have also posted in this thread and other ones..
Today I called my ISp to see if they coudl see anything, they coudl see a problem with my connection.. Changed something and asked me to call them tomorrow..
Have been playing stable all night, two disconnects in about 6 hours.. Would still like to make it 100% stable, but 2 disconnects in 6 hours? I can definitely live with that..
So for my part it seem the problem was with my ISP.. Give you ISP a call and see if they can see anything, maybe youll get lucky..
(Hoping, crossing fingers and all other kinds of things to make sre my connecitn stays this good for a LONG time)
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Zaphoniggan
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Posted - 2006.06.16 01:08:00 -
[193]
Is anyone having trouble logging on now?
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.06.16 12:56:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Derra Incap
M'kay, I'm getting a bit fed up waiting for CCP to fix this and I want to put to bed the idea that the problem lies with PCs or installations.
So you think it's CCP's fault?
Quote:
The only difference between my 2 setups is the firmware in the routers (both Origo ADSL routers, but I've upgraded the firmware on my home one) and the ISP (BT at home and f2s away).
Ahem. Methinks your diagnostic skills need some improvement.
You've just admitted that the problem can be narrowed down to either BTOpenWound or your upgraded router. I don't see how you can blame CCP given that it works just fine away from home.
BTOpenWound doesn't have a very good reputation (hence the silly name) and firmware upgrades are always a risk.
I'm not trying to wind you up but seriously, dude, sort out your own equipment before blaming CCP.
--
(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Abaddon Nostros
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Posted - 2006.06.16 16:29:00 -
[195]
I'de like to add my two cents here to point in CCP's direction on this one.
I have a network of 9 Comps, All using plugged in through a Cisco switch. I also have a hub that I can use as a back-up and have been using it at times for troubleshooting.
Here's what happens, I am getting the same disconnection issues as others here only when playing EVE. About 1/3 of the times that it does it, I also get "Network Cable Disconnected" on one or 2 of my machines. And others dont get it but are kicked from the game.
I can assure anyone reading this, that there is absolutely no problem with my own internal network connection that would justify me getting that message from Windows that my network cable was disconnected. All I need running for that is my pc and the switch, I dont even need an internet connection for that. Keep in mind this ONLY happens when playing EVE. I never have this problem when playing unreal tournament or doing anything else online.
I believe there is something going on in the network code that is causing something to dump somewhere in the various network layers. Something that EVE is doing is making my nic think the cable is disconnected, again this only happens on certain pc's so it my be a specific nic that gets that effect, and others just get kicked from the game.
Again, I repeat there is no reason I should be getting the network cable disconnected message on my machine, I checked out everything possible, including changing out my switch and doing things other than EVE and it still works fine. UNTIL I start running EVE, at which time I will intermittently disconnect from EVE, and occasionaly when that happens, get the cable disconnected message along with it.
Theres something screwed up here, and its on CCP's end. This is being caused by the software, not the hardware.
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Mandrake
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Posted - 2006.06.16 17:57:00 -
[196]
I've been reading about these disconnects for a while now, we have had a defect open on this for a while but no fix has been found yet.
One possible explanation is packet loss, it would be appreciated if i could get some reply's on that, if you are getting packet loss and if so, how much.
Mandrake
CCP - QA Department
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Abaddon Nostros
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Posted - 2006.06.16 18:28:00 -
[197]
Edited by: Abaddon Nostros on 16/06/2006 18:28:16
I'll run a ping test tonight while playing, assuming I can figure out what to ping. I guess its in the ini file? At work now so I cant check.
I'll post what I get here, although if I do get any packet loss, I assume it would be comming from the false network cable disconnected issue moreso than any internet issues. Unless you mean the client loosing packets somehow.
Like I said I will post the results later tonight if I can find what I am supposed to be pinging. At least its a start.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.16 18:49:00 -
[198]
From all my logs nothing seemed to suggest it had to do with packet loss, most plots I have made show no packet loss when disconnecting.
I have a new route now through which I now connect to the eve server, but it did not change anything.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
greywinged
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Posted - 2006.06.16 19:35:00 -
[199]
Ive been running Ping plotter for the past couple days, i haven't noticed any packetloss, but theres 1 hop in the route that's almost always showing higher values :
213.244.165.237 ge-6-17.car1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.06.16 20:57:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Drogo Dris
Owi...You may be a technical guru, but you obviously didn't read all the posts in this thread. You want to try to convince me that my computer (the same computer that connected to Eve with no problems at all and maintained connection prior to the last big patch) just COINCIDENTALLY started having problems on the SAME DAY CCP made changes??!! Give me a break....take you "all your computers are just broken" response and your know-it-all attitude to some other thread please. That doesn't help anyone here.
But it might. As soon as you connect your computer to a network and especially when you are trying to run a service dependant on that network you are the mercy of many factors most of which are out of your control and those of CCP in this case.
When people say "I can assure you that there is nothing wrong with my equipment" I think two things:
First of all:Yeah, yeah, pull the other one. I have experience in technical support and I know that 99% of the time those statements are made by people that haven't even run diagnostic software. They just assume that because they can browse the web everything must be fine and that's that. It's a common trap that people fall into in all walks of life. Claiming something to be true when in fact they haven't actually tested it.
Secondly:So what? Your computer is only one part of the problem and not even the most important part. It doesn't matter if your computer is fine. It doesn't matter if your ISP is the world's best ISP (unlikely unless you're using a business account for a server farm anyway). It doesn't matter if CCP's equipment and software is fine. There can still be a problem between you and them that is outside of both your control.
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(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
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Derra Incap
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Posted - 2006.06.16 22:44:00 -
[201]
Andrue, To be honest mate I don't care whos fault it is. But I can't fix it, you can't fix it, my ISP can't fix it and neither and my router manufacturer. Its only CCP that can fix it or at least diagnose it and thats all I want - someone to say 'here's your problem, you do this to sort it...'
I'll just add as well, I've had both ping and pingplotter running and haven't seen any packet loss from 87.237.38.200 (although I never get a response from any of the intermediate hops).
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Zolltan
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Posted - 2006.06.16 23:05:00 -
[202]
Well, I have read parts of this topic, but couldn't bring myself to read all the complaining, but anyway...
I am experiencing the same problems as you, but it only seems to occur at evening time, when 20k+ players are logged in. After trying to figure a way to solve this i came up with this: Why doesn't CCP install an additional server? with two servers, the EVE world could be divided into two halves, controlled by either of the two servers.
So, for example, when you jump between Jita and Sobaseki (which is the two most visited systems in EVE), you also jump between the two servers. This should put some weight of the servers, so they can work better, and maybe reduce the disconnections to a bare minimum...
I'm no technical expert, but this makes sense to me... so what do you others think?
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.06.17 06:04:00 -
[203]
not server load dependant: I just had several 1 minute freezes and 1 disconnect with only 14k players on. Nothing else running on my computer, no lag anywhere else.
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.06.17 06:11:00 -
[204]
>tracert 87.237.38.200
Routenverfolgung zu 87.237.38.200 nber maximal 30 Abschnitte
1 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms [...]
2 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms gar3-lo-00-000.shuttle.vien.inode.at [62.99.171.
167]
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms bord-vl-00-499.shuttle.vien.inode.at [83.65.78.3
3]
4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms otta-gb-05-010.shuttle.vien.inode.at [62.99.170.
5]
5 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms g1-2-314.core01.vie01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.11
7.240.45]
6 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms p13-0.core01.muc01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0
.213]
7 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms p12-0.core01.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0
.197]
8 29 ms 30 ms 29 ms p3-0.core01.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.
145]
9 110 ms 109 ms 109 ms p9-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.
170]
10 108 ms 110 ms 109 ms p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.1
3]
11 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung.
12 110 ms 109 ms 109 ms ae-1-55.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.129]
13 108 ms 108 ms 109 ms ae-1-0.bbr1.Lon[...]
2nd attempt:
[...]
7 22 ms 22 ms 23 ms p12-0.core01.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0
.197]
8 29 ms 30 ms 29 ms p3-0.core01.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.
145]
9 110 ms 109 ms 109 ms p9-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.1.
170]
10 110 ms 109 ms 109 ms p15-0.core01.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.1
3]
11 * * * Zeitnberschreitung der Anforderung.
12 109 ms 109 ms 114 ms ae-1-55.bbr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.97.129]
13 109 ms 109 ms 108 ms ae-1-0.bbr1.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.58]
14 115 ms 108 ms 108 ms ae-0-51.gar1.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.11]
15 109 ms 109 ms 109 ms 195.50.91.22
16 109 ms 110 ms 109 ms 87.237.38.199
17 109 ms 109 ms 109 ms 87.237.38.200
Ablaufverfolgung beendet.
Quite obvious really, hop 11 is causing the problems for me.
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M3ta
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Posted - 2006.06.17 18:36:00 -
[205]
In the Windows world, there are no miracles.
Go complain to your master, Bill Gates.
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Raad Razo
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Posted - 2006.06.18 22:04:00 -
[206]
It is beyond a shadow of a doubt an CCP problem.
I have been playing MMORPGS for 5-6 years now, and know how to work my rputer/AP/Firewall/wirering/wife/whatever.
It's NOT my fault - not my computers, my ISP's, my moms or anye one else problem but CCP.
Scientific facts prove beyond the shadow of doubt that it is a serverside problem occuring whenever the load is big.
If I play during daytime I can play for several hours without being disconnected - when playing at night - ACK!
It's probably the WORST I have ever experienced in my MMO "careere" and I was around when AO launched.....
*Shakes head at buggy programming*
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Hojo Norem
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Posted - 2006.06.18 22:43:00 -
[207]
I have been having the same disconnection problems as the rest of the people here for a while now. While its severity can differ during the day I have noticed 2 things about the disconnections:
1. If I have a repeating ping to the TQ server running I get a few 'request timed out' and then back to normal, usually at about the same time the login window reappears.
2. If I have TeamSpeak running at the same time then that will also loose it's connection.
I havn't been playing EVE long but when I did start I didn't get any disconnects at all (excluding the odd ADSL dropout, but I know how to tell the difference between that and the subject at hand). I can't remember which it was but Im sure all this pallava started either when the big server upgrade or the Bloodlines patch were deployed.
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Abaddon Nostros
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Posted - 2006.06.19 01:14:00 -
[208]
Ok, heres an obscure fact that might be a clue, or coincidence.
I was in a gang, clicked warp gang to location within 15km, and the moment I clicked it, I got connection lost.
May or may not be worth anything, it may have just recognized that I was disconnected when I hit the button... but you never know.
I felt this was important enough to post.
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De'Profundis Morte
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Posted - 2006.06.19 03:21:00 -
[209]
Any chance that EVE may be offered for a Linux system in the future? I would much rather use that then windows any day. Should be 100x more stabel also. I am really getting tired of the crashes also.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.19 09:44:00 -
[210]
Just to say that over the past 8 days I've only experienced 3 random disconnects: Coming out of warp. Starting warp and forming a gang.
I continue to run ping-plotter whilst playing and it has never shown any packet losses, however, its the Freeware version so I don't know if this will reliably report PL.
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James Corb
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Posted - 2006.06.20 22:28:00 -
[211]
seeing how this went to page 2 for the first time i've ever seen i was hesitant to post but... the more info the better.
I just had a CTD 15ish minutes ago and happened to have pingplotter running. this is what i got.(certain IPs blacked out to protect the innocent).
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/Jcorb/eveping.jpg
as you can see, an decent ammount packet loss. Some on my backbone but a good deal from across the pond.
I'm also seeing a consistant 5% packet loss on 195.50.91.22 since the CTD
all this leads me to think its an ISP problem. My side and theirs. I'm going to keep my eye on it and see if this re-accurs on my next CTD.
JC
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Mineral Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.06.21 02:10:00 -
[212]
I can't tell you how heartening yet disheartening it is to know that so many other people are sharing in the same kind of problems that I'm having. 
What I find ironic is that after doing something that was suggested in the "Find Answers" section of support, my connection to the server closed entirely.
I can't run the pingplotter because I can't log in. I can't log in because I did what the support section told me to do. I can't get any more support until I can log in. I can't get support to help me log in because so many others are having issues as well. So I am just kinda sitting here, feeling helpless about circumstances, watching movies and *****ing up at omgrawr.net, waiting for a godsend from tech support.
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Dust Rocket
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Posted - 2006.06.23 15:09:00 -
[213]
Heh and i thought its my comp. I bought new cabel modem and stuff cause i thought it (modem)must be fcking me, with these disconnects.
God Damn CCP take action i drop out off EVE more often then i drop out from warp. UNEXEPTABLE
Sorry my english
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Maleph
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Posted - 2006.06.23 15:33:00 -
[214]
Same problem here, it sucks :( My computer is hooked up to a LAN via a router. Also i live in london so i am quite near the EVE server station.
Happens alot when browsing market and doing things in stations but it happens in space aswell :(
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Mineral Inquisitor
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Posted - 2006.06.23 18:56:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Dust Rocket
Heh and i thought its my comp. I bought new cabel modem and stuff cause i thought it (modem)must be fcking me, with these disconnects.
God Damn CCP take action i drop out off EVE more often then i drop out from warp. UNEXEPTABLE
Sorry my english
If English isn't your first language, you did fine. You spoke it better than a good deal of people I know whose first language is English.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.06.24 09:24:00 -
[216]
Well the ctds are back with a vengence. Lag is awful and now starting to experience crash to re-boot..
Ping-plotter shows a nice clean route, no losses.
Time to play something else methinks. Wish there was some light at the end of all this.
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Derra Incap
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Posted - 2006.06.24 20:33:00 -
[217]
I think I've fixed my disconnects I upgraded the firmware on my router last night and I've not seen a single disconnect since (and I was bombing out every 10 mins before).
If anyone out there suffering disconnects has the same router they may want to try that too. I use an Origo 8100, Safecom has taken Origo over and renamed the routed the SAMR-4115, so look on the safecom website for the SAMR-4115 firmware and flash away 
remember, you can properly **** your router trying this, but as they're only ú20 ish new its not a huge financial risk
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.06.26 21:19:00 -
[218]
*bump*
Still having this problem a lot less frequent then first and almost totally not pressent during week-ends.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Belmarduk
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Posted - 2006.06.26 22:43:00 -
[219]
What the f*** is the matter with the eve-servers??? This connloss are getting worse grrrrrrrr
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Maleph
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Posted - 2006.06.29 11:39:00 -
[220]
Someone told me turning my sound off might help so i did, it has seemed to help so far. I've had alot less disconnects than before but playing without sounds kinda sucks :(
CCP need to do something about this really.
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Claudia Bluebell
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Posted - 2006.06.29 15:02:00 -
[221]
I have the feeling the disconnects really started since the SQL servers were upgraded. I talked to other players and they had the same problems, regular disconnects before the SQL server upgrades a while back.
The hardware upgrade really improved the EVE experience, I had no problems at all, life was great. But then CCP thought it was needed to install a new version of Microsoft SQL server and after that the only improvement was more disconnects.
CCP, please downgrade or install a real SQL server.
-Craefter
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Zakzhar
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Posted - 2006.06.29 23:18:00 -
[222]
I have the same problem. Keep getting disconnected, and it only happens when I, ahem, "ask the server" do to something. I.e. stopping my ship, fetching info from the market, etc. Also, it seems to happen in bursts. It's fine for hours at a time, then bam, I keep getting disconnected every 5 minutes for 30-40 minutes. After this bout of disconnects it returns to being fine again. Quite annoying.
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DarkPanther
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Posted - 2006.06.30 17:09:00 -
[223]
Yeah im getting about 10 random disconnects a day sometimes more
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Hojo Norem
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Posted - 2006.07.03 22:20:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Hojo Norem on 03/07/2006 22:21:56
Edited by: Hojo Norem on 03/07/2006 22:21:06
I had two disconnects tonight. TS was on all the time. The fist disconnect caused TS to disconnect also. When the second disconnect 'happened' TS broke up and went silent. I stood there for about 10 seconds waiting for the disconnect message then I decided to quit EVE. (Sometimes when I do this I can log back in quickly enough so my ship doesn't emergency warp out.) In this instance TS came back on the moment I quit EVE.
EVE must be screwing around with my network connection somehow. Like I said (and as others have) before this didn't start until a certain upgrade (can't remember which one).
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Wattish
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Posted - 2006.07.04 09:52:00 -
[225]
Edited by: Wattish on 04/07/2006 09:51:53
I am also getting disconnected, it seems either be every 15 minutes or every couple of hours.
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Roland Wolf
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Posted - 2006.07.04 14:26:00 -
[226]
I am also getting an insane number of disconnects lately, seemed to start a couple of weeks ago but has been even worse the last week. Was trying everything assuming it was my end and nothing worked, so glad to see this thread it's given me a lot of reassurance!
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Agent Arty
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Posted - 2006.07.07 17:57:00 -
[227]
I have been having this problem as well. I managed to fix it accidently when I was opening up a bunch of ports in my firewall for other programs. I don't know which ports it was, but, if you open these ports to the eve server: 50k-65k, 8650, 6112, 4661-4672, 50-53, 6881-6999, 8090, 80, and 26k then you should be golden. And on that note, plz don't hack my computer.
If someone could take the time to discover which of these are really necessary, I am sure everyone would appreciate it.
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Ta WaYa
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Posted - 2006.07.07 21:48:00 -
[228]
I too am having this problem..... ccp says it's my sound card drivers, I have creative sound blaster audigy 4, updated my sound drivers etc, still crashes, switched to my onboard sound card a realtek AC'97, updated all the drivers for that as well, still crashing, however, when I disable all my sound cards, I no longer crash, but who wants to play any game with no sounds?????
eve-online compatibility states it supports soundblasters and such, but it seems it's not compatibile 100% with the new cards or the ac'97 as they say........ this issue with the drivers really needs to be fixed!
and this problem only started after the last couple of patches....... :(
getting really fustrated and tired of undocking or going through jump gates and crashing.....
almost makes one wanna quit playing totally, and what's worse I'm tired of them saying update your sound card drivers, it's like they are not listening to me, MY DRIVERS ARE CURRENT AND UPDATED! god what don't they understand about that statement???? grrrr......
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Beatnik Squaresville
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Posted - 2006.07.07 21:57:00 -
[229]
Edited by: Beatnik Squaresville on 07/07/2006 21:58:54
I have a very strange disconnect problem:
With this character, Beatnik, I am disconnected within 30 seconds of logging in, EVERY time. I am unable to leave the station I'm docked at as well.
I created an alt just to experiment - he is able to stay connected/enter space just fine.
So, what's happening here!? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Ta WaYa
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Posted - 2006.07.07 22:04:00 -
[230]
I also have found the following errors in my error logs that I was running while on eve to try and narrow the problems down. I'm sure that these have alot to do with folks crashing......... and only adds weight that it's not on our end.
I wonder if the 1st error soundnode warpexplo01a.wav has no name could be causing problems with folks sound card drivers???? hmm...
Track from SoundNode warpexplo01a.wav has no name
Could not register 3D sound from node warpexplo01a.wav
Orphan'd event. DoDevicePreReset doesn't have any listeners
"unnamed", RotUrl:"tri:/dev",
1635 : [Unknown] in trinity.TriDevice: HRES:D3DERR_INVALIDCALL(Invalid call)
ID3Device->Reset() failed
1636 : [Unknown] in trinity.TriDevice: HRES:D3DERR_INVALIDCALL(Invalid call)
Failed to set transform state
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predorianis
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Posted - 2006.07.08 07:43:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Claudia Bluebell
I have the feeling the disconnects really started since the SQL servers were upgraded. I talked to other players and they had the same problems, regular disconnects before the SQL server upgrades a while back.
The hardware upgrade really improved the EVE experience, I had no problems at all, life was great. But then CCP thought it was needed to install a new version of Microsoft SQL server and after that the only improvement was more disconnects.
CCP, please downgrade or install a real SQL server.
-Craefter
nothing more to add, same problem here while i never had it b4 the upgrades
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Agean
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Posted - 2006.07.09 02:29:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Agean on 09/07/2006 02:29:31
Edited by: Agean on 09/07/2006 02:29:12
Same - Crash when loading map in station, crash when coming out of station and crash when finish jumps. It's happened so many times today I just can't play anymore. Im fine when I finally get to the mission and no more loading of new maps/screens
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.07.10 12:27:00 -
[233]
If anyone is still watching this forum item, I just wanted to say that I've been free of CTDs for a couple of weeks now.
I found 2 (of 4) defective memory modules. I used 3 different (freeware) memory testers but only the one from Microscope actually found a problem. The problem was not persistent, it would be found at roughly 1 in 4 testing periods.
I wouldn't suggest that this is true for everyone - it may just be coincidence, but my conclusion is that since Eve is an intensely memory hungry application, a random fault might just be sufficient to disrupt the programme.
I've also found that the quality of memory chips seems a little poor - I've confirmed 5 128 pin 512k DIMMs as being defective in the past year. (No, I don't over-clock!).
All I suggest is, test your memory to death if necessary and don't just rely on one tester.
Eve seems ok now - apart from the laaaggg and freeze-ups. (Sigh), but I guess they're another problem.
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Zakzhar
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Posted - 2006.07.11 21:59:00 -
[234]
Bump. Still having random disconnects in "bursts". Just had 5 in a row (as in, within 5 minutes of each other) after a few days of hardly no disconnects at all.
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AstroFlyer
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Posted - 2006.07.11 22:36:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Jack Creme
If anyone is still watching this forum item, I just wanted to say that I've been free of CTDs for a couple of weeks now.
I found 2 (of 4) defective memory modules. I used 3 different (freeware) memory testers but only the one from Microscope actually found a problem. The problem was not persistent, it would be found at roughly 1 in 4 testing periods.
I wouldn't suggest that this is true for everyone - it may just be coincidence, but my conclusion is that since Eve is an intensely memory hungry application, a random fault might just be sufficient to disrupt the programme.
I've also found that the quality of memory chips seems a little poor - I've confirmed 5 128 pin 512k DIMMs as being defective in the past year. (No, I don't over-clock!).
All I suggest is, test your memory to death if necessary and don't just rely on one tester.
Eve seems ok now - apart from the laaaggg and freeze-ups. (Sigh), but I guess they're another problem.
What Mem testers did u use? Did u replace the RAM? If so, with what?
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.07.12 07:46:00 -
[236]
No RAM problems for me, btw I was playing absolutely fine for 1,5 week orso, but since 2 days ago the disconnects have returned for me.
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Tinker
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Posted - 2006.07.12 10:02:00 -
[237]
Hey folks,
I was able to play all fine till last week tuesday/wednesday all the sudden bluescreen and reboot. since then I am getting disconnected at an insane rate. I reinstalled windows (fresh installation with partition rebuild and all), updated the bios of my mainboard while I was at it and made sure I have all the current and uptodate drivers installed. Nothing changed. What freaks me out is I dont get a error message or anything. The client is just closing back to desktop. I cant find anything in the logs but this :
File created 2006.07.12 09:24:12
<string>:2551: FutureWarning: hex()/oct() of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up
<string>:598: FutureWarning: hex()/oct() of negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up
An exception has occurred. It has been logged in the log server as exception #33
--- so what now ? I have plenty of these crash.txt files in the logs but it wont help me to fix the problem. Oh and although some people here may not want to hear it but I am certain it is not on my side. WoW is doing fine hours of playtime, EQ2 is doing fine hours of playtime. Pingplotter is not showing any major pl or lag but the "hops" in london are generally slow on my pings.
CCP please do something, I cant play anymore, sometimes I get kicked to desktop right after I hit the pic to login, usually just 2 or 3 mins after and sometimes it takes 10 mins top. I am not using Wlan or a router its simple DSL. I am not a tech-guy though I know my share about my machine to get along and I never experienced something like this before last week.
T
ps english is not my native tongue so sorry if it reads terrible
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:19:00 -
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Soz Astro, been away for a couple of days. I downloaded the freeware memory test prog from here: http://www.m2ktech.com/
You have to fill out a Q&A form before you get it and if I remember correctly, and you'll probably get some spam related to their other products as a result, but they were decent and their web-site has some really interesting forums related to PC hardware etc.
Re the memory. No, I just removed the two defective DIMMs. This dropped my capacity from 2Gbyte to 1 Gbyte, so no big deal although Eve doesn't seem quite so smooth as a result. I read somewhere that that you should match the latency on the chips - well I dunno about that, but I had brought the RAM chips from different sources. The current pair (of 512k ) DIMMs I brought from one of the on-line suppliers in the UK.
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Maleph
Itchy Trigger Finger Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.17 10:33:00 -
[239]
This needs to be on the front page Im still getting the disconnects, in bursts as someone else mentioned. It will be fine for a large part of the day and then i will start getting disconnected every 5 minutes, its getting a bit rediculous now.
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Beloch
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Posted - 2006.07.18 02:37:00 -
[240]
Quote:
This needs to be on the front page Im still getting the disconnects, in bursts as someone else mentioned. It will be fine for a large part of the day and then i will start getting disconnected every 5 minutes, its getting a bit rediculous now.
This is exactly the same problem that I am having. Sometimes it disconnects immediately after loading my character into the game.
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General Paul
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Posted - 2006.07.18 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: General Paul on 18/07/2006 21:53:15
Edited by: General Paul on 18/07/2006 17:59:15
erm.. just read this entire topic and Im having the same problems as many people who have posted...
My character crashes every 3-5minutes consistently.. and my ISP didnt have a clue what was wrong...
This may be inconsequential but my game doesnt crash if I dont use it (that is I log in and sit in a station but dont touch anything) so the previous thoughts of innactivity causing a crash seem doubtful.
I hope this bugger is solved soon..
<just noticed the corperate chat hadnt changed for 30 minutes.. so I had crashed.. but I was only disconnected when I started pressing things and the screen/interface worked up until it crashed.. significant?>
(developement number 2....
When running eve-radio the radio crashes a few seconds before the client does... this points to a none CCP cause I believe)
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Baughn
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Posted - 2006.07.19 04:04:00 -
[242]
The simple fix is to join newbie help. Now, as for why:
What's going on is that at some point - perhaps in that last patch - CCP removed the keepalive ping they (presumably) had going in their connection.
This shouldn't matter - TCP/UDP connections are *never* supposed to be randomly dropped just because no traffic is passing through one - but then someone invented the bogosity known as "NAT" and some (misconfigured) stateful firewalls, which keep track of connections but eventually forget them if they appear to go away.
As a result, if nothing happens ingame for a sufficiently long period of time - and you're behind such a firewall or NAT - the connection silently breaks. Then, the next time one end tries to send something to the other, it will get a "huh?" reply back from the firewall and give you a connection lost if it's your client, or warp you off to safety if it's the server.
In any case, if this happens you will only see a crash once you try to do something on your end. It cannot be triggered by the server when the connection is already broken.
Joining newbie help, or any other busy channel, gets rid of the issue because there will /always/ be traffic. And that's that. Hopefully, unless CCP has the game using several, parallel channels, in which case it's not.
Worth a try, at least - I haven't seen any crashes after doing that.
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Meddy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 04:32:00 -
[243]
I had the "Conection to server lost" problem for atleast a month. I could stay connected as long as i was traveling or using modules,but if i stayed in space with no modules activated or sat in station for 5-10 minutes, i would lose the server. The Client would stay up untill i tried to open the market or some other window, then I would be back at the desktop with the "connection lost" message.
I tried many of the things others have suggested but with no success.
Yesterday I upgraded the "firmware" on my Linksys router and was able to play without any connection to server problems. This may not be a solution for all but may help a few.
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cr0wn
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.19 12:27:00 -
[244]
Edited by: cr0wn on 19/07/2006 12:30:45
Originally by: Baughn
The simple fix is to join newbie help. Now, as for why:
What's going on is that at some point - perhaps in that last patch - CCP removed the keepalive ping they (presumably) had going in their connection.
This shouldn't matter - TCP/UDP connections are *never* supposed to be randomly dropped just because no traffic is passing through one - but then someone invented the bogosity known as "NAT" and some (misconfigured) stateful firewalls, which keep track of connections but eventually forget them if they appear to go away.
EDIT Meddy which Linksys router are you using? I have a BEFSR11 v1, unfortunately I have the latest firmware and I still get disconnects :( If you could tell me which model and which firmware version you've got I'd appreciate it.
As a result, if nothing happens ingame for a sufficiently long period of time - and you're behind such a firewall or NAT - the connection silently breaks. Then, the next time one end tries to send something to the other, it will get a "huh?" reply back from the firewall and give you a connection lost if it's your client, or warp you off to safety if it's the server.
In any case, if this happens you will only see a crash once you try to do something on your end. It cannot be triggered by the server when the connection is already broken.
Joining newbie help, or any other busy channel, gets rid of the issue because there will /always/ be traffic. And that's that. Hopefully, unless CCP has the game using several, parallel channels, in which case it's not.
Worth a try, at least - I haven't seen any crashes after doing that.
This man speaks the truth - having done every old wives tale fix on this thread with no joy, the only answer is to stay active, or like the man says keep a busy channel(s) open. Having gone AFK whilst warping around the place, I've lasted anything from 5 to 30 minutes until disconnect, but if I'm chatting, checking the market, looking at ship info, it stays connected for hours on end.
EDIT Meddy which Linksys router model are you using? I have a BEFSR11 v1, I'd be interested to know which firmware version you're on!
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LyncusBee
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Posted - 2006.07.19 16:12:00 -
[245]
I think we should define a clear difference between a CTD and a dissconnect: -
I consider a CTD to be when the client crashes to the desktop without an exception (I don't think I have show exceptions enabled in the prefs atm anyhoo) or error window/s of any sort and does not bring up the client connection dialogue.
I consider a Disconnect to be when the message "connection to server lost" comes up and the client launches the connection dialogue in preperation to re-log.
The reason I am pointing this out is that I started a CTD thread with history logs etc
Here
What I am talking about are strictly CTD's.
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Meddy
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Posted - 2006.07.19 18:48:00 -
[246]
Originally by: cr0wn
Edited by: cr0wn on 19/07/2006 12:30:45
Originally by: Baughn
The simple fix is to join newbie help. Now, as for why:
What's going on is that at some point - perhaps in that last patch - CCP removed the keepalive ping they (presumably) had going in their connection.
This shouldn't matter - TCP/UDP connections are *never* supposed to be randomly dropped just because no traffic is passing through one - but then someone invented the bogosity known as "NAT" and some (misconfigured) stateful firewalls, which keep track of connections but eventually forget them if they appear to go away.
EDIT Meddy which Linksys router are you using? I have a BEFSR11 v1, unfortunately I have the latest firmware and I still get disconnects :( If you could tell me which model and which firmware version you've got I'd appreciate it.
As a result, if nothing happens ingame for a sufficiently long period of time - and you're behind such a firewall or NAT - the connection silently breaks. Then, the next time one end tries to send something to the other, it will get a "huh?" reply back from the firewall and give you a connection lost if it's your client, or warp you off to safety if it's the server.
In any case, if this happens you will only see a crash once you try to do something on your end. It cannot be triggered by the server when the connection is already broken.
Joining newbie help, or any other busy channel, gets rid of the issue because there will /always/ be traffic. And that's that. Hopefully, unless CCP has the game using several, parallel channels, in which case it's not.
Worth a try, at least - I haven't seen any crashes after doing that.
This man speaks the truth - having done every old wives tale fix on this thread with no joy, the only answer is to stay active, or like the man says keep a busy channel(s) open. Having gone AFK whilst warping around the place, I've lasted anything from 5 to 30 minutes until disconnect, but if I'm chatting, checking the market, looking at ship info, it stays connected for hours on end.
EDIT Meddy which Linksys router model are you using? I have a BEFSR11 v1, I'd be interested to know which firmware version you're on!
My router is a BEFW11S4 v4 (i have the wireless function disabled)
I installed Firmware version befw11s4_v4_v1[1].52.02_000_FCC_code
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LyncusBee
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Posted - 2006.07.19 22:23:00 -
[247]
Can we please stop speculating and start to post CTD's and disconnects seperately; perhaps like I CTD'd alot and here's my history log; and I disconnected alot and here's my network app ( ping recorder app) record. The two maybe interelated, non-realated, coincidental? I don't know but a huge thread mixing it all up only serves to be the largest un-stickied thread thus far, therefore making it nigh on impossible for GM's, Dev's, and most importantly CCP ppl to comment upon without the obvious ramification of "pleasing everyone"
For all those UK players who are unfortunate enough to be with NTL... I have experienced seriously intermittent transfer rates since they announced there " cap ppl to 1GB/day regardless of bandwith" policy. It's not that they are restricting they're actual bandwiths ( run a local / offline test and the bandwith is correct when it's available!) but that you may be waiting a few secs to a few mins to get a connection et al! This way it also makes their quite horrible scripted tech support invunerable to how they are currently messing about with the network.... like " run a BB speed test and we are still supplying what you pay for ( regardless of the fact that it might take you a minute to get a bite at that bandwidth ) Anyway NTL rant ends......... but point in case is that it become very difficult to eradicate network issues when your ISP is a monopolising, profiteering, utter 24 carrat c*nt of the highest order known to humanity. ....most especially since they merged more like bought out TeleWest...... or am I being a bit harsh....LOL
Now whether this has any bearing upon all the CTD's and Dissy's that ppl are reporting in considerable (less considered atm by CCP) volumes; I do not know?
But maybe my opinion is given a good position in your market don't become a monopoly and forget your customers experience, like NTL seem to be doing since they have bought out the competition........... listen to the customers
So ultimately.. tell us why sooooo many ppl are experiencing similar probs with eve and look into it; but our point is do you need a thread of 20 pages and 500+ valid threads to even comment officially? (which is what this is going to become over a few more weeks)
DON'T BECOME ANOTHER EGOSOFT, CCP, WE CARE ABOUT THE GAME AND WE WANT TO KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT US!
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Ralcon
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Posted - 2006.07.20 03:18:00 -
[248]
I forwarded ports 1023-65535 TCP and UPD.
I've had this problem for a little over a week now I think and doing this seemed to help, haven't dropped once in last 2 days. (active or not) Hope it works for atleast some of you!
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LyncusBee
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Posted - 2006.07.20 09:55:00 -
[249]
Forwarding a large range of ports is not an option and I wouldn't recomend anyone did so it leaves your router wide open. You should only ever forward specific TCP and UDP ports respectively for given trusted applications.
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Siddious
The New Empire
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.07.20 18:49:00 -
[250]
This is getting silly...
Logging in EVE and 5 minutes later I am out again with the message that it lost connection..
Cleaned out the Cache directory. tried it on my normal pc and on my laptop. Both the same problem.
Can browse the net or play any other game without any problem.
CCP Please give a reaction and try and fix this !!
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Jovius Marginus
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Posted - 2006.07.21 08:26:00 -
[251]
Having the same problem. Randomly the server will disconect knocking out internet on my comp. Diable and Enable my wireless connection and it works. This only started when I began using a Belkin router.
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cr0wn
50 Klicks
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Posted - 2006.07.21 09:18:00 -
[252]
Originally by: LyncusBee
-snip-
For all those UK players who are unfortunate enough to be with NTL... I have experienced seriously intermittent transfer rates since they announced there " cap ppl to 1GB/day regardless of bandwith" policy. It's not that they are restricting they're actual bandwiths ( run a local / offline test and the bandwith is correct when it's available!) but that you may be waiting a few secs to a few mins to get a connection et al! This way it also makes their quite horrible scripted tech support invunerable to how they are currently messing about with the network.... like " run a BB speed test and we are still supplying what you pay for ( regardless of the fact that it might take you a minute to get a bite at that bandwidth ) Anyway NTL rant ends......... but point in case is that it become very difficult to eradicate network issues when your ISP is a monopolising, profiteering, utter 24 carrat c*nt of the highest order known to humanity. ....most especially since they merged more like bought out TeleWest...... or am I being a bit harsh....LOL
-snip-
Yup, I'm an NTL customer too. Looks like I've got the worst of both worlds - **** connection and a nasty router! And yes, I would not recommend forwarding a huge range of ports, you are leaving yourself open to attack.
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:26:00 -
[253]
Edited by: Terini Reda on 24/07/2006 18:29:10
Edited by: Terini Reda on 24/07/2006 18:26:14
well I cant open all my ports, I am working on a computer security company and my computer has really crittical datas on it, and while many people try to attack me 5-6 times a week. I playing wow on 100 ping and 54-55 ping on DDO for too long time whitout even a single lag spike but cant even play eve uninterrupted for 20 minutes, while the thinks are like it, I neither can take a combat mission, nor can form gang, or use drones. There is 9 pages of posts on forums and no post from a CCP employer. You guys can atleast tell us you are invesitgating this matter, so we can be sure that our psots are read already, but I think they dont even read the topic. I really dont know how much time will try to play eve like it, there is far more better tech support on many free to play MMO games.
I really wonder why developers stop caring about players when they hit the cash...
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Twisted Humor
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Posted - 2006.07.28 18:16:00 -
[254]
I have same disconnect issue, but I found it is only due to my idle time in the game. If I am occantionally pulling up info, and doing things that require pinging the server, I stay connected. Don't think I have ever disconnected while mining or in battle.
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Xavier Aldarion
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Posted - 2006.07.30 17:18:00 -
[255]
Been getting the same sort of disconnects, but intermittently. Sometimes Eve plays just fine, other times it disconnects me every 5mins or less. There doesn't seem to be any pattern in the times that Eve plays up, sometimes it's late at night, this afternoon it's been really bad; yet all day yesterday it was fine.
Tried logging onto 2 busy channels to try keep connection alive but didnt help any.
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Tanner Sack
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Posted - 2006.08.02 09:33:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Xavier Aldarion
Been getting the same sort of disconnects, but intermittently. Sometimes Eve plays just fine, other times it disconnects me every 5mins or less. There doesn't seem to be any pattern in the times that Eve plays up, sometimes it's late at night, this afternoon it's been really bad; yet all day yesterday it was fine.
Tried logging onto 2 busy channels to try keep connection alive but didnt help any.
This is getting to be a real pain!
Exact same problem I am having, too. I get it on both my laptop and my desktop too, so it's not related to something specific on the computers. Could be my router I guess, but it works like a charm in every other game.
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Zillard VonToadLikkr
DN EVE Chapter
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Posted - 2006.08.02 13:19:00 -
[257]
no red names popped in here yet?
I'm still on the trial acct - like 2 days left I think.
I've beeen loving this game right up to this point - for me the disconnect problem just started happening night before last (just prior to last maint).
As this thread is a few months old I'm guessing they still have not been able to pinpoint the issue?
dssapointing, I realy was enjoying this - but I'm not about to pay for something I can't properly use...
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Zillard VonToadLikkr
DN EVE Chapter
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Posted - 2006.08.02 13:24:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Baughn
The simple fix is to join newbie help. Now, as for why:
What's going on is that at some point - perhaps in that last patch - CCP removed the keepalive ping they (presumably) had going in their connection.
This shouldn't matter - TCP/UDP connections are *never* supposed to be randomly dropped just because no traffic is passing through one - but then someone invented the bogosity known as "NAT" and some (misconfigured) stateful firewalls, which keep track of connections but eventually forget them if they appear to go away.
As a result, if nothing happens ingame for a sufficiently long period of time - and you're behind such a firewall or NAT - the connection silently breaks. Then, the next time one end tries to send something to the other, it will get a "huh?" reply back from the firewall and give you a connection lost if it's your client, or warp you off to safety if it's the server.
In any case, if this happens you will only see a crash once you try to do something on your end. It cannot be triggered by the server when the connection is already broken.
Joining newbie help, or any other busy channel, gets rid of the issue because there will /always/ be traffic. And that's that. Hopefully, unless CCP has the game using several, parallel channels, in which case it's not.
Worth a try, at least - I haven't seen any crashes after doing that.
please forgive my noobness,
when you say join the noob channel - do you mean havit it actually displaying (i.e. that tab is selected)? or can it just be subscribed and I'm looking at my corp tab.
A little more detail for the less veteran player purdy please?
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phukyou
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Posted - 2006.08.04 12:44:00 -
[259]
He means just join the channel. you dont have to have it open, the data is supposedly going to that channel regardless. Although, this "fix" has not worked for me. I lose connection every 5-10 minutes. :(
If they dont do something soon, I will have to find another way to spend my time/money.
Eve is currently, for me, a very expensive irc client.
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Sweetlana
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:38:00 -
[260]
I am getting disconnected every 5-10 minutes or so for last 3-4 days. I think it started after last Extended Downtime. Its impossible to play anymore, i am about to cancel my subscription. The problem is server side i am very sure, cause i have been playing for 2 years now. It started after last Extended Downtime, you guys screwed
something up. I am very serious about cancelling subscription , because its impossible to play anymore...
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Banker Bilo
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Posted - 2006.08.05 12:45:00 -
[261]
I am having same problem and i am about to cancel my subscription as well. Can everyone who post here, send a petition in game please? Because i believe they don't care what we write here.
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Drazi1
Minmatar
Accretion Dynamics
C O I N Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.05 16:01:00 -
[262]
I have had this issue all week, for petes sake GET IT sorted, we are paying for this. It's supposed to be sorted , and Guesss what it ain't. Also are you gonna give back the gear that other players who have lost stuff due to this, i think that should be the case
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Capt Nemo
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Posted - 2006.08.06 02:58:00 -
[263]
Yup same problem here.. Frequent Connection to Server Lost been happening for the last 3 weeks or so.. I have not changed any computer equipment on my end, sometimes I can play for as long as 10 whole min. before I get disconected.. Please can we get a fix for this my patience is wearing very thin.. This game used to be fun.. I cant even play with my corp mates because I get disconected ever 5 min or so.. Soon it will be time to cancel the account and go elsewhere.. Hope we can get this fixed soon..
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Captain Kaizoku
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Posted - 2006.08.07 16:03:00 -
[264]
Fix this sh.t CCP, i am fed up with it everyday. At least answer my in game petitions.
Technical staff going on vacation without fixing major problems was the worst move ever.
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Shai Lo
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:59:00 -
[265]
So I decided to quit City of Heroes and try Eve...
Not a good start in my opinion. I can't stay connected for more than 5-15 minutes. It's taken me 24 hours to do the first 2 parts of the tutorial.
I'm connected to the newb channel but no luck keeping the connection.
Have a fast rig with 2 gigs of ram (1 gig set to EVE in prefs) and the latest drivers. I REMOVED my sound card and it's drivers. No luck.
I was able to run 2 instances of COH during a raid no problem and that game taxes system resources much more heavily than EVE.
EVE crashes and then I load up two instances of COH plus start battlefield2. No problems except a little processor lag.
So, are there any other MMO's I should be considering?
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Reto
The Last Resort
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:32:00 -
[266]
yay add me to the list of the doomed plz. i have some of the similar probs. i already bought a new wlan card and have a very good connection but still i cant:
-navigate my ship after undocking
-navigate my ship after reloggin
-navigate my ship after jumping
-activate modules in space
-online modules in station
-offline modules in station
-change ammo in station or in space
-unfit gun turrets
-chat wihtout delays
-chat without being disconnected
-join a gang
-leave a gang
-reconnect after crash
- <<plz insert issue i will experience in future here>>
this is simply amazing how totally right the timing of this is. i just made a new subscription for eve and as soon as it was wired the $hitstorm hit the fan...i love this game
go ccp... go ccp...go go go ccp ! \\o \o/ o//
i hope my imagination isnt far from reality if i see oveur running through the ccp hq and swingin his senior game designer whip'o'd00m to "motivate" the server crew 
Originally by: s4mp3r0r
"Hey man, you're mom has a cruise missile".
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Hassan Nasrallah
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Posted - 2006.08.12 12:31:00 -
[267]
Go to the EVE fan fest and submit all of your complaints directly to the game devs. I believe ignorance from the devs/ccp -> the subscribers will change after a face to face conversation with some (alot?) of frustrated subscribers. Or will the devs hide behind their bodyguards (ie, chat windows)?
Provoking reply yes, but hey, you got a ton of subscribers here with problems and very little replies from people who know(?) how to solve these issues.
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Peaq
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Posted - 2006.08.16 08:00:00 -
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Yeah, I've been getting it a lot the last couple of days too. It played pretty good before (couple disconnects here and there) but it's completely unplayable now. Combat is impossible. I can't even browse the market w/o it disconnecting me in the station.
Every few min I get dropped.
Here's what I have in error logs btw, seems to imply a server thing.
2006.08.16 07:15:35SHUTDOWN [1976]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:23:55STARTUP [3004]
2006.08.16 07:23:57SHUTDOWN [2936]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:27:45STARTUP [3096]
2006.08.16 07:27:46SHUTDOWN [3004]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:35:59STARTUP [524]
2006.08.16 07:36:00SHUTDOWN [3096]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:48:55STARTUP [3656]
2006.08.16 07:48:58SHUTDOWN [524]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:52:24STARTUP [3684]
2006.08.16 07:52:24SHUTDOWN [3656]connection lost
2006.08.16 07:52:30STARTUP [3724]
2006.08.16 07:53:34SHUTDOWN [3684]User requesting close.
File created 2006.08.16 07:54:01
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An exception has occurred. It has been logged in the log server as exception #2
File created 2006.08.16 07:49:41
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Paulanius
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Posted - 2006.08.19 13:06:00 -
[269]
This game is a very good game, I love it...
Good graphics...good game design...good system....good..
But, can you say a game is good when you cant play it, or at least play it properly?
When a player is wandering in space 0.5 below, this is absoulutely lethal.
It is irritating enough for me to re-establish my internet connection everytime when I disconnected from the game as it also terminated my normal internet access.
The second thing is that it muck-up my scheduel, due to disconnection, I couldnt earn the target amount of ISK I was supposed to earn, therefore I couldnt buy the items I was supposed to buy, delay in skill learning.....etc.
So, please.
At least tell us that the dev team has acknowledged this issue and will soon do something about it, or at least have a look at it for goodness sake.
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Ossi Black
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Posted - 2006.08.20 17:29:00 -
[270]
I just signed up for a trail account and I¦m having the same problems as eveyone else here. I¦m trying to get through the tutorial, but as soon as I wait 2-3min (following instructions), I get disconnected.
I think it looks good so far... but seeing as people have been having problems for 4 months now only in this thread, I¦m discouraged to join.
Also, I got a 500 the when trying to post this... ha ha, CCP, hello?
500 - Internal Error
The server was unable to process your request.
Support personel has been notified, no further action is needed.
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Nev Hortator
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Posted - 2006.08.20 22:36:00 -
[271]
It's disheartening to like a game so much but have a problem like this. I also am on a trial account and I WANT to subscribe but with the constant disconnects I just don't feel like I'd be getting my money's worth.
whoever is in charge we could use some help here I'm sure you're aware of the problem but please just a little response in this thread would help reassure me that this is getting addressed.
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Halada
Caldari
STK Scientific
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.21 07:02:00 -
[272]
Thanks god I thought my computer went on rampage ! So I'm not the only one with disconnects every 2 minutes???
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Ossi Black
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Posted - 2006.08.21 07:48:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Nev Hortator
It's disheartening to like a game so much but have a problem like this. I also am on a trial account and I WANT to subscribe but with the constant disconnects I just don't feel like I'd be getting my money's worth.
whoever is in charge we could use some help here I'm sure you're aware of the problem but please just a little response in this thread would help reassure me that this is getting addressed.
This helped for me, easy fix:
As previously said by someone in this thread, joinging a active chat channel fixes this problem. I was thrown out every 3min before, it haven¦t happened since I joined the help channel.
If your still in tutorial mode, the chat channels may not be visible yet. Run through the tutorial and they will appear. Minimize the window and your set. I think you can also cancel the tutorial, to see the channels, and re-active it later if needed.
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Pheldia
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Posted - 2006.08.27 01:36:00 -
[274]
I updated my D-Link routers Firmware, which was over a year old, and I have stayed connected for about 20 minutes straight so far. 10 minutes before I did this I was getting booted every 2-3 minutes. I recommend trying the firmware update if you run a router. It appeared to work so far for me.
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Drogo Dris
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Posted - 2006.08.29 12:50:00 -
[275]
New patch...and now a new round of server disconnection issues...
There are other threads stating the same thing...this one has just been around since the last big patch created connection issues.
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tinkerrrr
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Posted - 2006.08.29 16:55:00 -
[276]
im gettin sick of this first i cant play 4-5 days cause 4557 build sucks and kept ctd on me till the 3rd time i did a damn full install and now i keep loseing stuff cause the server sucks and wont stay online its not even worth playing anymore im not re-subsribeing i have lost mad isk the last 6 days
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deadmaus
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.15 13:21:00 -
[277]
Playing from New Zealand and losing connection every 15-20 mins atm.
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Mather Maelstrom
Gallente
Azure Horizon
Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2006.11.15 21:48:00 -
[278]
Actually only less then half a year left to make it to a full year of horrific server disconnects.
Let's not count the one or two days from time to time that are 100% stable, they only add 10% to 20% of total play time.
CCP look at my history of payments ever since this has been around only 1 months have been purchased with frequent long breaks, if you want me to be buying 3 month non-stop fix the problem PERMANENTLY.
//No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\ |
Shinzann
Beast Cat Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.19 02:53:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Mather Maelstrom
On a side note a I managed to restore the data of my broken Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri PP CD and got it to run on windows XP and it does not crash, huray for 99 smac and smax.
I haven't played that game in years. Might be something to do while CCP finishes up trying to figure out that new content on a laggy server != happiness
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.11.20 13:27:00 -
[280]
Afer 2 months of relatively trouble-free playing the CTD's are back with a vengence. One of my two accounts is dropping out at random, but very frequently. Last night I experienced 3 in 40 minutes then 2 more in the following hour and a half.
This started again last week.
The symptoms are the same, ping plotter shows a perfect path and the client is undisturbed, but if the server-side lag becomes intense one of the accounts pops off. Its usually the same one - whether or not I log them on first or second, or whether or not one is 'doing' something. That is very strange.
I can usually tell if the client is about to be disconnected. Lag suddenly rises and everything freezes. The second account starts to experience things like: overview out-of-sync; unable to activate modules quickly and cans won't reveal contents for some 20 or 30 secs. Within seconds the client ctd's, but as I've said its only one of them whether they are in the same system or not.
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Sivara Loxen
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Posted - 2006.11.21 05:18:00 -
[281]
I've just started playing this game and can't stay connected for more than 10-15 mins. I'm on a trial, at this rate I have no reason to subscribe.
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Kamikaze Lush
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Posted - 2006.11.22 15:30:00 -
[282]
Any 'work-arounds' for this yet?
I use to play a few months ago and it was alright, now after resubbing 2 days ago I keep getting dumped. Got dumped twice with in 10 minutes this morn.
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Ffaide
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.11.22 17:46:00 -
[283]
I am having similar issues. I was stable for a good long while, but ever since last week's patch im preperation for the new hardware upgrades, Im getting dumped very frequently. Everytime it happens, I am either jumping into a new system or undocking. Would love it if someone knew a solution to this problem. I've already cleaned out my cache files, that seemed to fix it before but not now.
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Tarik ThunderStorm
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Posted - 2006.11.22 18:29:00 -
[284]
Same here guys.
this is getting RIDICULOUS.
Since last patch, I am dropped sometimes 8 times in a row and when I can finally get into the game, eve crashes on me.
I have tried the typical ccp bull**** but it is never and has never been, my end.
EVE has done this to me on 7 different computers (completely different brands) yet when I play other online games like Entropia, I absolutely never get any disconnects.
So please CCP, fix this and admit you are having problems on your side. Pointing the finger at us, your customers is just plain pathetic and childish.
Enough said.
Tarik
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Andronas
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.22 23:06:00 -
[285]
Started having this problem of disconnects myself in the last few days, happens to me frequently in deadspace while doing missions. lost a few drones over it aswell. Had the odd disconnect before but never as many as this, at least 4 or 5 times a night. Makes me a bit nervous about doing anything. PingPlotter shows no signs of packet loss at all.
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Kaiyzer
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Posted - 2006.11.24 01:42:00 -
[286]
Same set of ctd's for me as well.. however, i notice they're predictable on gate jumps to highly populated systems... Saila, Jita... etc. Ususally as im reappearing on the other side of the gate. This is obviously a server issue.. not a clientside problem.
my experience with ccp has been all positive until now. I do hope they solve this issue soon. I noticed this more when i returned to empire space (population) from lowsec...
I'm a bit hesitant to put one of my boats in harms way without an improvement.
CCP PLEASE FIX IT!!! PLEASE PLEASE!!! THATS WHAT I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!
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Osharin
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Posted - 2006.11.24 05:35:00 -
[287]
Incredible! 7 months later and they still haven't fixed the disconnection issue, which made me quit the game.
I thought i'd try the trial and see if they had done something, but it's still disconnecting, even in trial.
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Count Mishkah
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Posted - 2006.11.26 20:29:00 -
[288]
Yep, Going back to the old pingplotter thingamybob I decided to try it out and I`m getting between 33.3% and 50% packet loss at London1 level3.
If this is genuinely a server problem shouldn`t they have people that maintain the **** things? Seriously!
If your ship needs repairs you get it repaired.....DONT YOU???? If your servers need repairing shouldn`t you think about repairing them?
And after all those nice hardware upgrades too!! You`d think things would run smoothly!
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Osharin
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Posted - 2006.11.26 23:20:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Osharin on 26/11/2006 23:23:34
Edited by: Osharin on 26/11/2006 23:22:31
Originally by: Count Mishkah
**EDIT**
just a quick update
so-6-0-0-0.gar1.London1.Level3.net
ae-0-52.bbr2.London2.Level3.net
Both those routes seem to be the meanies. Maximum PL has been 87% so far. My guess is someone went in with a baseball bat and smashed the place up.
See, what's interesting is that these routes were mentioned OVER half a year ago. 95% of all those that had disconnection problems traced it to Level3 London. Yet CCP still hasn't done anything to fix this.
They go on bragging about the 30k onliners and new superhardware, but the sad truth is that there could be so many more, if only the god forsaken game worked.
We seriously need a Eve Online 2! Eve Online 1 is flawed and outdated.
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Count Mishkah
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Posted - 2006.11.27 00:43:00 -
[290]
Just thought I`d point out I`ve been running a couple of tests for about 15 minutes and just noticed 100% packet loss at those points in the trace. Could they actually be working on them?
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Count Mishkah
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Posted - 2006.11.28 00:47:00 -
[291]
Tis fixed now, been playing with no problems tonight.
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Shinzann
Beast Cat Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 06:20:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Count Mishkah
Tis fixed now, been playing with no problems tonight.
Maybe for you, but I was disconnected 7 or 8 times during the last 30 minutes I was logged in tonight.
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Shinzann
Beast Cat Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.29 06:20:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Count Mishkah
Tis fixed now, been playing with no problems tonight.
Maybe for you, but I was disconnected 7 or 8 times during the last 30 minutes I was logged in tonight.
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2006.11.29 06:34:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Shinzann
Originally by: Count Mishkah
Tis fixed now, been playing with no problems tonight.
Maybe for you, but I was disconnected 7 or 8 times during the last 30 minutes I was logged in tonight.
Ditto, still getting discoed FAAAARRR too often. Latest update seems to have fixed NOTHING. How long is it going to take for the devs to realize something is wrong on a BASIC level ever since the first try at Dragon???
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Osharin
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Posted - 2006.11.29 13:23:00 -
[295]
Sooo, it was as i feared. Only content and no fixes...
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Osharin
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Posted - 2006.11.29 14:05:00 -
[296]
JESUS F. CHRIST!!! I can't even stay online for 5 minutes anymore...
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Hound Archon
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Posted - 2006.11.29 20:03:00 -
[297]
I am also having this problem it is most annoying.
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Ganaar
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Posted - 2006.11.30 01:40:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Count Mishkah
Tis fixed now, been playing with no problems tonight.
I was thinking the same thing. I got an email from a GM saying that another net connection had been brought up. Things were great! For one night... I'm back to 10 D/C an hour.
I'm sounding like a broken record, but billing date is approaching and, with it, cancellation date.
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nXus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 10:04:00 -
[299]
Before the revelations patch i started getting disconnected at random. As far as i could tell i hadn't installed any new programs or changed any network settings at all.
This made it impossible to do any mining.
Approx 1 week before the Revelations patch it seemed to be ok, or at least not as bad.
Then came d-day. I installed Revelations patch and opened client. Server status "Unknown". Closed/re-opened but same problem. Tried PC reboot. Tried router reboot. Sometimes i do get a server status xxx players OK. I go to connect and it CTD while loading. When looking at netstat i see the eve ports open at logon screen. 1 to port 26000 and 2 to port 80/http. These disappear when i get CTD. They are there when client logon says xxx players online.
My only next option is to try a format and re-install of windows, which i have been dreading.
I don't have any problem with other games at all.
I noticed if i tried to run Internet explorer ALOT of the time the client disconnects at the same time. But even when all i am doing is running both clients i get 1 or both clients CTD..
All i can say is this is incredibly lame :(
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DETE1S
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Posted - 2006.11.30 10:37:00 -
[300]
No probs before revelations patch, but now can't stay logged in for longer than a minute. Lost my ship, all the equipment I was hauling but his is irrelevent because I can't even play the game anymore.
I'm sorry to say I'velooked everywhere for a fix bu come up with nothing. Th eonly thing left to do is quit. Its a shame as this game was great when I could play it. With no tech. support from CCP you just think they have got enough customers that they won't miss the few that have serious problems. Typical large corp with no customer service.
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padraig animal
Minmatar
Darklite inc
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:31:00 -
[301]
Same here ,if i start mining aprox 2 min *conection to server lost* if i start ratting ,if i got atacked ,i even lost a boat a fully t2 fitted Domi on this -_-
So ccp ,same as Author i did also still prob's ...
If it goes on like this i won't be able to play eve online anymore !
Beside that i live in 0.0 space great when loosing conction all the time bye bye isk ,i can't even rat anymore :(
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:55:00 -
[302]
Couldn't stay connected for more than about 15 seconds last night.
It wasn't the net either I had a connection monitor running.
Lost around 1.5 billion isk because of it.
/start sig
I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on.
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Frazer Shad
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Posted - 2006.12.08 21:54:00 -
[303]
Same issue for me.
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Defqon
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:58:00 -
[304]
yes totaly agree whit this this need to get fix
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Camus Desony
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:20:00 -
[305]
I opened the LogServer to see why I'm experiencing CTDs so often. The last line in the log after a crash is a message saying that a certain JPEG is being loaded from cache/browser/img. When I look at the image being loaded, it's 3k and invalid -- can't be opened in any viewer I have.
Can anybody else reproduce this?
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Halbeth
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.08 23:29:00 -
[306]
I've been having the same problem, we need a fix
pweeze?
The EVE Online Homeworld 2 Mod |
Pigeon Soup
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Posted - 2006.12.17 13:13:00 -
[307]
This is still happening to me. I play EVE over a uni connection in Manchester and I get d/c perhaps every 5 minutes. It is completely unplayable :s
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DeT Resprox
Minmatar
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2006.12.17 14:35:00 -
[308]
Edited by: DeT Resprox on 17/12/2006 14:35:02
I'm suffering so many disconnects now i lose count on a daily basis, i have lost ships due to it and am awaiting responses on several accounts dating back 2 or so weeks. Please could CCP give us a rough idea of what the petition queue situation is :)
Gal-Net bandwidth restrictions breach corrected. Please keep transmission stamps under 24,000 bytes. Your stamp is located here - Petwraith
TRIAD
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yaniv abo
Gallente
The Tafflington Trust
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Posted - 2006.12.17 20:10:00 -
[309]
Same issue.
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murfa
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Posted - 2006.12.18 05:13:00 -
[310]
im getting this as well now. started 2 or 3 days ago. the problem is, it is also kicking my brother off his computer that is connected through the same router I am connected. its very strange.
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Ma'ax
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Posted - 2006.12.21 05:31:00 -
[311]
this is very obviously a client-side issue -- too many people on too many different types of computers on too many isp's are affected for it to be and ISP or 'connectivity' issue, and it is traceable from the revelations patch. for me, when eve gets cranky it takes another internet application with it. for others, they have to reboot to regain connectivity. nothing on the ISP or server would cause these symptoms.
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Rotanezen
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Posted - 2006.12.21 15:21:00 -
[312]
I have been reading around to see if I can find a thread with the same issue as mine.
I believe it has somethign to do with the patch they are working on. At first I was getting the FPS increase bug everytime I went through a startgate two days ago. Last night, I would get a CTD near a start gate. After loggin in twice only to be booted almost instantly, I can't even get into the character select screen.
I was able to briefly log in after I switched out video cards (have a back up, I am an MMO geek), but the second I warped back near a start gate by default on login, because that was where i had crashed last night, and I crashed instantly and can not get back in again.
I can play all (I have 4 others) of my other online games just fine and dandy. All my drivers are updated and it isn't the vid card, or my computer. This is something client side.
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Rotanezen
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Posted - 2006.12.21 15:34:00 -
[313]
Err, somethign not client side. Eve program wise...
I burned myself, go figure. LOL
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Jalee Teagen
Gallente
House Karris-Godschild
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:01:00 -
[314]
I played EVE in beta during the 2002 release, this connection issue was a problem then also. I quit played as soon as EVE went retail, and have just started playing retail recently this past 4 days ago. This problem still persists and has not been resolved.
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Jalee Teagen
Gallente
House Karris-Godschild
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Posted - 2006.12.25 19:19:00 -
[315]
A few of the 'User requesting close' messages was me shutting the game down because the game had no response, ie, could not send chat... therefore close game to restart.
2006.12.23 04:47:49STARTUP [3716]
2006.12.23 05:31:40SHUTDOWN [1948]connection lost
2006.12.23 05:38:07STARTUP [1460]
2006.12.23 08:04:08SHUTDOWN [3588]User requesting close
2006.12.23 16:19:23STARTUP [2176]
2006.12.23 16:54:40STARTUP [2680]
2006.12.23 17:29:02STARTUP [1088]
2006.12.23 17:41:11STARTUP [2544]
2006.12.23 17:41:37STARTUP [3176]
2006.12.23 18:54:15STARTUP [1952]
2006.12.23 19:10:23SHUTDOWN [3964]connection lost
2006.12.23 19:10:26STARTUP [2180]
2006.12.23 20:12:20SHUTDOWN [1356]connection lost
2006.12.23 20:15:57SHUTDOWN [2404]User requesting close
2006.12.23 20:15:59STARTUP [2396]
2006.12.23 20:32:06SHUTDOWN [3012]User requesting close
2006.12.23 20:32:09STARTUP [224]
2006.12.23 20:32:15STARTUP [2632]
2006.12.23 20:56:51SHUTDOWN [3932]User requesting close
2006.12.23 20:56:57STARTUP [1284]
2006.12.23 21:54:37SHUTDOWN [1816]User requesting close
2006.12.23 22:46:19STARTUP [2564]
2006.12.23 22:51:04STARTUP [644]
2006.12.23 23:28:38SHUTDOWN [3836]User requesting close.
2006.12.23 23:28:55STARTUP [1668]
2006.12.23 23:29:39STARTUP [1392]
2006.12.23 23:33:27STARTUP [3816]
2006.12.24 00:41:16SHUTDOWN [236]User requesting close.
2006.12.24 00:41:19STARTUP [632]
2006.12.24 03:20:13SHUTDOWN [1372]User requesting close
2006.12.24 03:20:16STARTUP [2008]
2006.12.24 04:40:16SHUTDOWN [3112]connection lost
2006.12.24 05:13:04SHUTDOWN [400]User requesting close
2006.12.24 05:13:07STARTUP [3832]
2006.12.24 07:47:45SHUTDOWN [2208]connection lost
2006.12.24 07:48:13SHUTDOWN [3120]User requesting close.
2006.12.24 15:58:10STARTUP [436]
2006.12.24 16:05:29STARTUP [4064]
2006.12.24 16:28:19SHUTDOWN [2284]connection lost
2006.12.24 16:38:17SHUTDOWN [3584]connection lost
2006.12.24 16:40:05SHUTDOWN [2664]connection lost
2006.12.24 17:38:13SHUTDOWN [960]connection lost
2006.12.24 17:38:16STARTUP [1044]
2006.12.24 17:44:33SHUTDOWN [3684]User requesting close
2006.12.24 17:44:36STARTUP [2976]
2006.12.24 18:16:16SHUTDOWN [2752]User requesting close
2006.12.24 22:01:43STARTUP [3416]
2006.12.24 22:26:30STARTUP [776]
2006.12.24 22:52:51STARTUP [2804]
2006.12.24 23:02:16STARTUP [2216]
2006.12.24 23:45:47STARTUP [1608]
2006.12.24 23:48:11STARTUP [3168]
2006.12.25 00:37:45SHUTDOWN [780]connection lost
2006.12.25 01:29:57SHUTDOWN [3304]User requesting close
2006.12.25 01:30:00STARTUP [3280]
2006.12.25 02:30:43STARTUP [876]
2006.12.25 04:01:12SHUTDOWN [2004]connection lost
2006.12.25 04:32:33SHUTDOWN [1372]connection lost
2006.12.25 07:04:19SHUTDOWN [644]User requesting close
2006.12.25 07:04:27STARTUP [2924]
2006.12.25 08:00:08SHUTDOWN [1220]connection lost
2006.12.25 08:00:19SHUTDOWN [764]User requesting close.
2006.12.25 16:27:13STARTUP [1752]
2006.12.25 16:49:07SHUTDOWN [3248]connection lost
2006.12.25 17:05:44SHUTDOWN [2156]
2006.12.25 17:39:39STARTUP [3228]
2006.12.25 17:51:17SHUTDOWN [3040]connection lost
2006.12.25 18:02:08SHUTDOWN [1132]User requesting close
2006.12.25 18:04:25STARTUP [1984]
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Bethany Deliiri
Ventui Frontier Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.26 16:40:00 -
[316]
I have logged in approx. 50 times in the last 2 hours in an attempt to change my skill. Most of the time my chat windows do not even load before I get disconnected. Finally I got my skill changed but this is ridiculous. I have had disconnection problems ever since the patch but it has just been getting worse and worse until now I literally cannot play the game. |
Ryan Scouse'UK
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Posted - 2006.12.26 18:03:00 -
[317]
Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 26/12/2006 18:03:50
Cant say I ever had this problem while playing eve.. apart from the Server it selfs Crashs... (in 9months)
So for me Eve is working just fine.. apart from a little lag now & then ..
10MB line .. UK - NorthWest
3.4Ghz
2gig Ram
Sound = Off
I run winamp always.
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Exigo
Shadow Company
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.26 19:19:00 -
[318]
This is getting ridiculous. I have been trying to log in for almost the entire month of december and get nothing but empty chat windows, lag, etc. That's if I can even make it past the log in screen. I know with expansions there are problems but wtf are you spending all our subscription fee's on ccp? Christmas presents? FIX the damn thing already.
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Cilacan
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Posted - 2006.12.27 04:25:00 -
[319]
I have had random disconnects since beta, seems the more ppl that play, the worst it gets, this problem has been going on for a long time, and CCP knows it, I have contacted them, and still get the same thing, must be my isp, running ping plotter, the delays were in london every time, so if its my isp, or my fault, why do i not have this problem with any other game? and i play many others ....
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Desmond Lineham
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Posted - 2006.12.27 16:06:00 -
[320]
Its quite likely CCP are turning over somewhere in the region of $7.5million a year through subscriptions...
In return we get.... (fill in the blanks yourselves below)
Mine..
A game that doesn't work..
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Wisaaka
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Posted - 2006.12.27 20:24:00 -
[321]
I must have disconnected 10 times in 20 minutes. I can't play this game at all.
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scruffer
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Posted - 2006.12.28 07:38:00 -
[322]
i also have this problem. it seems very random. i use 2 accounts and often i have both on at the same time. sometimes one account will get disconnected many times a night. but the other account will not lose connection at all. even if i use 1 account i still have this problem. i did not see this problem before the patch. also since the patch it takes multiple log in attempts to get into game, usually 3 or 4 per account.
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Fenrec Deac
Malkalen Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.29 09:27:00 -
[323]
Have the same problem as all of the above. Disconnection after a few seconds or a few minutes after starting eve.
The problem is neither network or dsl relied because I run a second account using the same connection without any problem.
I did a full system reinstall, new drivers and dx. No change.
My workaround :
Sounds silly but works, I start a instance of Everquest in the background ( Usaly my trader ) and the disconnection problem disappears immediatly. This may not help all but maybe give a push in the right direction how to solve the problem.
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Kristie
INTAKI UNION
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Posted - 2007.01.02 06:31:00 -
[324]
In the last 3 days I have been disconnected over 100 times trying to pvp or mission...yikes...what is going on? The optional patch made no change. It is also apparent that it has nothing to do with my side of things
Please make some kind of hotfix CCP.
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Coniglietta Magica
Guys in Metal Panties
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Posted - 2007.01.02 13:29:00 -
[325]
...........................................................
And petitions are 2 weeks into not being answered.
I used to love this game, I have logged din once in the last week, only to lose connection lose an ishtar with corpum mods and haven't touched it again since.
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ShadowImage
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.02 14:49:00 -
[326]
This **** is getting ridiculous. I can't even stay connected long enough to change skill training anymore. Log in, everything is fine, suddenly no response to anything at all, and the client has no idea, but the server has ditched the connection like an ugly girlfriend.
Definitely nothing on the client side, you can watch the traffic, it'll just sit there happily sending its traffic, then all the sudden, the other end stops responding. It never even closes the connection properly, it just drops it outright. No FIN, no RST, no nothing -- client never knows what hit it.
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Radica
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:51:00 -
[327]
Yeah, this is driving me bananas. Worst thing is it takes a while for the client to realise it's not connected anymore. Corpmates tell me on TeamSpeak I've dropped out way before I get a message from the client.
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Mchart
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.01.03 16:07:00 -
[328]
I've just re-subscribed and i'm experiancing the same issue. Thanks CCP, thanks for stealing 15 dollars. I can't even get past the character creation screen 90% of the time.
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Morbius Nyks
Amarr
Rave Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:41:00 -
[329]
Sign me in please
I have been playing for about a year now, and everything worked fine till revelations arrived. Now I either can play for few hours, or being d/c 20 times in one h randomly, for me looks like some timeouts, couse 70% of my d/c take place when Im afk but not only (Team speak or p2p is running still)- I changed my reouter firmware (suplier claims that router can not kill my port/conection on his own even if its idle), bought more RAM, bought new graphic card, reinstaled client, reinstaled windows - and gues what ....$%T*%^%@$@#&^%$
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Coniglietta Magica
Guys in Metal Panties
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Posted - 2007.01.04 03:24:00 -
[330]
thats enough, I want my time back, I want to be reimbursed for the time I have payed for since revelations. This is bull****.
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pubcrawl
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Posted - 2007.01.04 04:11:00 -
[331]
same here every 10mins and shorter sometimes, im on the trial at the moment and i tell ya what this is not a good seller, forking out $20-25 bucks a month.
If this is how it is going to be, why would you bouther.
In the training sections (combat) sitting there watching for 10 mins noticed no one doing damage go to unlock and server lost, relog in back to same spot and have found iv destroyed the training drones.
Impossible to play like this and if i was paying money for this id want a refund as goods described have not been supplied.
As for end user causing the drop outs Na sry have no prob playing AA BF2 WOW etc.
Anyways enough whing from me after all im on the trial, guess we will see what happens on Saturday.
Cheers
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Mid Boss
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Posted - 2007.01.04 08:44:00 -
[332]
Damnit I just reactivated my account and found out I can't play because of this. CCP Halp!
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Maltitol
Gallente
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2007.01.05 14:17:00 -
[333]
i dont knwo if it helps at all.. but ive been getting alot of disconnects recently too.... however its been since ive gotten a router.. linksys wrt54g, i upgraded the firmware, and havent had one in almost 3 weeks... then i started egtting it again... and it only happened with my other machine on my network received msn messages (as i use a seperate pc for it aswell as teamspeak to improve eve), so i updated nic card drivers, and no problems for 2 months now.
im not saying this will work.. but it doesnt hurt to give it a try
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Originally by: Devil Hanzo
There is no problem with Jita, there is a problem with everybody going to Jita at the same time...
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Ordo Ministorum
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Posted - 2007.01.05 14:25:00 -
[334]
getting disconnetcs every 10-15 minutes, dropped in Low sec and logged back in with 5 Sansha BS's chewing my Destroyer, just managed to escape. So bad now that i cannot even create an ALT, sever allways disconnetcs as i reach the name generation stage. Getting real ****ED OFF about this.
One Empire, One People, One Emperor, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2007.01.05 15:19:00 -
[335]
Only Windows 2000 and XP SP2 are supported by CCP now, so make sure they're up to date via Windows Update. If you don't have either of those OS', it might be worth telling you that CCP doesn't support 95, 98, ME or NT anymore, and that they use encryption's that both 2k and XP SP2 know, and work with (I think only NT is the only non-supported OS' that comes with the same encryption libraries as 2k and XP SP2).
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CreaTure Lightfoot
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Posted - 2007.01.05 15:37:00 -
[336]
my connection problems since revelations patch was caused by ICS -XP not liking the new way of communicating.
i was connected via other PC to the internet and i lost connection every 5 minutes.
after installing a router i don't lose connection anymore.
my little help to the connection nightmare
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Coniglietta Magica
Guys in Metal Panties
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Posted - 2007.01.05 16:49:00 -
[337]
It looks like whatever was done yesterday resolved the issue for me (i hope) as I have not crashed all morning!
Now just waiting on petitions to clear.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Ordo Ministorum
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Posted - 2007.01.05 17:02:00 -
[338]
Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 05/01/2007 17:03:11
Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 05/01/2007 17:02:44
Couple of interesting observations: Server disconnects now rare if i'm out flying, but happen every 20 minutes or so if i'm in a station!, also absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to create an Alt, sever disconnects everytime before character generation completes.
On an onther note, graphics glitches during combat now happen in full screen mode (used to happen in windowed mode), so i'm back running Eve in windowed mode.
One Empire, One People, One Emperor, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
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Damon Ra
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Posted - 2007.01.05 17:10:00 -
[339]
For the last week almost two I can't seem to stay connected, and have a lot of difficulty connecting at all. Traceroutes to tranqulity do not show anything amiss on my 10Mb connection. It always seems to happen when there are around 20K users or more online. No changes to anything on my end.
So many bugs... So much lag.. So many excuses... This ship we call EVE has been slowly sinking since July 2006. I was really hoping that "Dragon" and then "Revelations" would clear up some of the mess but it is actually worse now.
CCP, this is no longer the same "great" game I signed-up for and paid for a year (in advance) to play last Feb. I personally feel that you have pulled a bait-and-switch on your userbase, and are expecting all of us to continue to pay to beta test your product.
For anyone who is on a trail account and considering actually paying CCP to play this game, I would humbly recommend that you wait until you don't see lots of threads like these every day on the EVE-O forums, especially if they go unanswered by CCP for as long as many of these have. |
Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr
Ordo Ministorum
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Posted - 2007.01.05 20:18:00 -
[340]
Edited by: Solomunio Kzenig on 05/01/2007 20:23:57
Still IMPOSSIBLE to create an ALT!!!!! WTF is going on CCP???????
Logging in and waiting to see how long before i get a connection lost error message (sitting in station doing nothing as this seems to provoke a sever disconnect).
Probably should not be on EVE after a bottle of wine with dinner!!!
One Empire, One People, One Emperor, Forever under Heaven. Amarr Aeternus.
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Novect
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Posted - 2007.01.06 13:10:00 -
[341]
Ditto to all u guys... I'm having the same problem... but only seems to disconnect when I become targeted...
I have had no responce from CCP...........................
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Protector Ironfist
Caldari
W.A.S.P
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Posted - 2007.01.06 14:41:00 -
[342]
i called CCP's HQ yesterday about this damned thing, all i got was "We are currently working on this issue, please be patient with us for thease few days..."
FEW DAYS??? its been like this for the last 3 months!!!!! *ROAR*
CCP FIX THIS STUFF NOW PLEAAASSSSEEEEE!!!!
-Pro
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Allantia
FW Inc
Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2007.01.06 15:34:00 -
[343]
For some reason I started getting this problem during late October or so. Client sits idle for more than 5-6 min, it disconnects. The only solution I've found so far is to manually force some client activity every few minutes (show info on someone, or etc)... which completely sucks. I'll try joining the help channel this afternoon and see if that helps at all.
This is one of the things that really irks me about CCP. You've got a issue that severily impacts hundreds of players, and yet in over 8 months there's been only 1 dev reply.
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Novect
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Posted - 2007.01.06 18:58:00 -
[344]
It obviously shows how much they care about the player base from what i have seen.
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Eustahy Motyka
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Posted - 2007.01.06 23:20:00 -
[345]
Edited by: Eustahy Motyka on 06/01/2007 23:17:01
its not my main :)
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Morbius Nyks
Amarr
Rave Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.06 23:20:00 -
[346]
Report update from the battlefield
I changed my router for similar one but older, and I havent got single d/c for the last 3 days, aparently some routers are voulnerable for packets lost are somehow they are killing (seemingly) idle ports. For me change of router worked fine and closed a problem, if you can - borrow another and try. Hope you will find that solution helpfull.
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Talcorp
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Posted - 2007.01.07 13:52:00 -
[347]
I'm just about done with this nonsense. I reactivated and can't even make 5 jumps without taking 45 minutes worth because of disconnects. I've tried everything suggested short of dumping my router (which is NOT an option). Grats CCP on conning $15 from me.
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leeloo lefete
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Posted - 2007.01.09 06:43:00 -
[348]
This is really ridiculous! I have 4 accounts and am the CEO of a corp. The game has become unplayable since the hardware upgrade! CCP get your ****e together! I am disconnected every 2 or 4 minutes. Same behavior on several different computers and networks!
What is the problem! Is this the solution to server balance and load. Make it so a bunch of people quit to make servers more responsive?
The best game I know has become the worst game I know.
Gadgette
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Thommy
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:45:00 -
[349]
I know it may not be valid for everyone to do so but it is worth your attention to check many different issues.
For once disk access time.
If your computer has an very slow hard disk and it has to wait to long till it can continue operation, mostly recognisable with some stuttering while doing things.
This can cause connection losses because the ISP / ccp server has to wait to long on an package and it times out.
Possible solution to this:
- Upgrade to SATA hard disk (it's faster and on motherboards supporting it especially new ones also an cleaner interface).
- Perform an defrag on your hard disk(s).
- Split your hard disk into partitions (for example c:\ operating system, D:\ programs & swap, e:\ games
It may also have something to do with either the driver used (outdated / faulty driver) or some mal / spy ware pressent on your computer.
Make sure to use the newest possible driver and clean out any nasties from your computer, aswell as possibly even updateing / flashing your bios, router(s) and modem(s).
In mu case my motherboard had some issues with it's bios (which could cause alot of BSOD's) and my router also had some issues (which caused alot of dc's).
Be aware of it you have to reinstall your operating system if you decide yo upgrade / flash your motherboard's bios.
Another reason for bad connections may be programs you are running at the same time (or your roommates if your on an shared internet line).
Make sure that any P2P program running is capped or closed aswell as terminate MSN messenger as i found it to be causing some strange network behaviour sometimes aswell (traced back with packet analyser, msn often causes "ghost" packages which routers may block or die out on if they can't handle it, often caused reset in connections aswell).
It may also be possible you just have a bad network card (or is not fitted tightly in its socket, make sure to check it is connected properly into your motherboard's slot.
The reason may also be one of the network cables or it's plugs are bad, if possible test the cables and connector plugs.
I have had poor cables causing problems but replaced them with dual shielded network cables also to prevent external influences on indoor cabling (an microwave close to your cable gives as much distortion as when you stand 2 meters from a waterfall, but any device that gives out magnetic fields can cause data malfunction).
If you have an external source where you can put teststreams on to test how many packages are lost / corrupted you can also get an better indication of external connections aswell.
This however often requires you to have your own server unless someone is willing to set something up like this for you.
Some ways to make sure it is on your local place and not on ccp their end:
- Use 2 accounts, when 1 disconnects and the other not its more likely to be on ccp their end (node died, connection socket died etc), unfortunately because ccp made it harder now to have a trial AND paid account this requires 2 paid accounts.
- Some ISP's have a monitor that can be accessed from your place which displays packet and transitions (you need to be able to understand specific data protocols though will this data be any use to u).
Most important is to be able to test local devices (for example 2 computers, 2 network routers of same / different brand, multiple network cables, and if you have the ability even 2 different ISP's at a friend's place for example).
Unfortunately many of this requires you to have good knowledge of electronic devices operation, computer basics and datalayer protocols if you are going to the true roots.
Unfortunately not everyone is an expert and some may never be able to find out without external help (be it trough these forums or by localised proffesionals).
If you are not sure about any of these things, its better not to just mess arround but instead ask advise from an local expert.
Guide to fix eve problems.
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Thommy
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Posted - 2007.01.09 11:58:00 -
[350]
An addition to my previous post as i was out of characters :)
It may also be worth it to check your router / modem settings.
Some have IP adress leases for example 1 hour, which WILL cause your computer to get a new IP lease each hour (thus will disconnect you in it's process).
If it is set to an rediculously small number (like 5 minutes) increase it to atleast 1 day upto the max possible.
Generally an IP is given free anyway even if it's leased and the computer connected to it is not on anymore.
This will also guarantee forwarded ports to an specific IP keeps it's original setting.
Another issue which may be for some people is closed / stealthed ports by firewall, antivirus or other protection software running.
Make sure connections can be kept open by througly checking settings for these programs and upto an extend read about the actions the program(s) perform (they may give you additional "extra's" you may not even want activated).
Firewalls have to be configured properly wherever they are located (software firewall on computer, hardware firewall in router etc).
If an firewall is set to sensitive it may see eve's data stream as an malware / attack and shut down the connection to it.
Even an antivirus set to sensitive can cause network packages to be canceled out.
Also DO NOT EVER run multiple antivirusses or firewalls at the same time, this may actually cause virusses to slip trough unnoticed because antivirus scanners interfeir with each other and it can cause numerous problems with firewalls.
Example of such an software setup would be haveing NIS (norton internet security, which contains an firewall AND haveing the windows firewall enabled).
Another example may be you are running norton antivirus and have installed hitman pro, which installs NOD32 antivirus by default.
It is an very simple issue to overlook but be absolutely sure that none of the programs you run are actually interfeiring with each other.
Guide to fix eve problems.
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CrainiumCrash
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Posted - 2007.01.09 22:05:00 -
[351]
Hi all,
Ive been having the same problem as everyone else.
I seem to be getting disconnected every time a NPC Pirate lands a shot on me . I can fly around from system to system, dock, buy, sell etc.
But as soon as I try combat .... Disco .
Ive been playing EVE 3 months and had the odd disco, but since Revelations this happends all the time. I havent changed a thing with my PC for 6 months ( same drivers, hardware etc ), nothings changed at all apart from EVE.
I have read all the posts about discos, Ive tryed the ping plotter trick .. Only thing I havent tryed is playing on another persons system. Next on list
But atm im stuck... Cant mine, Cant fight ...
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Linkel
Minmatar
Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:00:00 -
[352]
This is ridiculous, I disconnect about 6-7 times a day, and sometimes the computer locks up, but that's rare. What gives CCP? At least say something?
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Hur
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Posted - 2007.01.10 01:29:00 -
[353]
This is ridiculous. I pay for this gameplay, have opened petitions. And reading through the site I find no response from the developers.
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Balec
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Posted - 2007.01.10 02:39:00 -
[354]
Yep, I just updated my game from about a month of being absent and now I can't stay connected for longer than 10-20 seconds...(before I never had any problem)once I try and do anything it locks my internet up (disconnects me from anything I'm connected to and severely slows my internet down for the rest of my computers on the network)
that and the patch server is still down so I can't reinstall+repatch...so, nothing I can really do. YAY...
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Domitia Corbula
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Posted - 2007.01.13 00:23:00 -
[355]
What I'm seeing is a router very near Tranquility is corrupting IP packets randomly.
When pinging myeve.eve-online.com with a 1464 byte ICMP payload, the corruption always starts at the same point 1444 bytes in. All bytes after that are corrupt and I can't recognise a pattern in the corrupted bytes - it seems random. With smaller packet sizes, the corruption happens at a different point but always towards the end of the packet and always affects all bytes past a certain point in the packet. That point seems fixed for a given packet size e.g. at byte 484 for a 540 byte payload. The problem appears to happen less often for small packets than for large packets (I'm seeing roughly 5% vs. 1%).
The last two hops for me on a standard UDP traceroute, before the packets are firewalled out, are 213.206.131.22 (Sprint) and 195.50.91.98 (Level3). I get zero packet corruption to 213.206.131.22, but the packet corruption starts at 195.50.91.98.
In theory TCP checksums should cover up this occasional corruption but my guess is either a firewall or a TCP/IP stack somewhere is killing the connection.
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2007.01.13 08:38:00 -
[356]
I think what Domitia just posted is the most useful information in the whole thread. I pity the poor folks who have reinstalled the Eve client, reinstalled drivers, reinstalled (eek!) Windows. The majority of the reported disconnect problems are NOT client issues.
My own experience has been getting disconnected after a few minutes idle in station. That smells an awful lot like a stateful firewall or proxy at the CCP side timing me out. Only stateful nodes do that... all the other stuff from my computer out through my static IP connection through my provider and through the intermediaries has no reason to be aware of the TCP connection state. Stateful nodes have to time out inactive connections SOMETIME or they fill their connection tables with active connection state information.
The phoenomenon described by Domitia may be responsible for some of the disconnects. I strongly suspect that some nitwit changed out or upgraded a firewall or proxy and left it with too small a connection table and too short a connection timeout, and CCP is sitting there, fat dumb and happy, saying "What are these people talking about???" It could be, of course, that the same box that is corrupting packets is also timing out stateful TCP connections.
I was going to do some mining tonight, kind of a brainless relief from work, like basket weaving or potholder weaving, but after I connected my five paid accounts and got distracted by the TV behind me for a bare few minutes, at least two of the accounts were unresponsive -- the first sign of a disconnect when idle. One of those got the dreaded disconnect. I lost interest in playing and just closed the other four windows.
Oh, if you get the dreaded disconnect (the small logon window with two popups in it, one at the upper left and the other at the lower right), don't try to use it to reconnect. It has a hard bug in it and tells you it can't reach the IP address you know you were just connected to. You have to close it and re-launch the client to make a new connection.
Except for the disconnects I was warming to Revelations... from where I sit the jump speed has improved greatly and the warp-to-0m is way overdue and a real pleasure, even if a bit erratic. I take great pleasure picturing the spineless gate campers gnashing their teeth. But if I start to get disconnected while in space I'll stop playing. Again.
I've pointed out before, and in years past about braindead ISPs... the only way to get the staff to grok "mission critical" is to run their air supply through the servers. Well, OK, that probably wouldn't be legal. Then run their paychecks through the servers. Server down, no paycheck, or delayed paycheck.
"Where's my check (or direct deposit)?"
"Why are the servers down? Fix the servers and your check will pop through... eventually."
"But I don't even WORK on the servers!"
"Tough. Server down, nobody's pay gets processed."
"I don't get it."
"That's exactly the problem, but don't worry, you will."
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Philip Jones
Gallente
Bridgeburners 9TH Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.16 23:31:00 -
[357]
I have no probelms with connections, until I start to analyze with a probe.
I will launch one and wait, and wait ,and then think give me the result, only to have 'No Connection' pop up.
I get wound up when this happens 5 times in a row. So I go do some missions. No problems whatsoever.
Return to probe ship. Launch a probe, wait for it to hit 0.0, and bam disconnect....
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Coniglietta Magica
Guys in Metal Panties
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Posted - 2007.01.17 22:26:00 -
[358]
Back to having the same issue, Constant Server disconnects.
I have...
increased the tcp/udp ttl to their max values, re installed windows, reinstalled the client deleted the cache, installed that (we hope this works) patch. I have ping charted the server. I have called and yelled at my isp, I have upped my network connection from 5mb/sec to 25mb/sec. I have replaced my network card, replaced my router, added another gig of ram, so far I have WASTED over 200$ on this ****...
What else can I do. Fix it or I am done at the end of the month.
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Kuromugi
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.01.18 00:52:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Philip Jones
I have no probelms with connections, until I start to analyze with a probe.
I will launch one and wait, and wait ,and then think give me the result, only to have 'No Connection' pop up.
I get wound up when this happens 5 times in a row. So I go do some missions. No problems whatsoever.
Return to probe ship. Launch a probe, wait for it to hit 0.0, and bam disconnect....
I get something similar to this except when I'm mining (which I don't do alot) At first im mining, then I wait and wait and wait, I noticed that the ore is not apearing in my cargo hold, and then as soon as i click on the Character sheet, or try to chat, Bam, D/C at first this was the only time i have been D/C. But recently it's become a lot worse, and more Frequent, im Disconecting for no reasons at all in stations, and it space, Im pretty much afraid to run missions or go into low sec for fear that I may D/C, i know that some people are fine, but there are lots of people who have recently started having problems, not to Complain, or say that im going to quite eve over this or anything, but I do hope it gets fixed soon, what ever the problem may be, since this only started happening to me over the last 3 weeks to 1 month I hardly see how it could be a problem on my side. Since i have been playing about 5 months before without a problem.
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migwar
Lawless Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.18 10:47:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Kuromugi
Originally by: Philip Jones
I have no probelms with connections, until I start to analyze with a probe.
I will launch one and wait, and wait ,and then think give me the result, only to have 'No Connection' pop up.
I get wound up when this happens 5 times in a row. So I go do some missions. No problems whatsoever.
Return to probe ship. Launch a probe, wait for it to hit 0.0, and bam disconnect....
I get something similar to this except when I'm mining (which I don't do alot) At first im mining, then I wait and wait and wait, I noticed that the ore is not apearing in my cargo hold, and then as soon as i click on the Character sheet, or try to chat, Bam, D/C at first this was the only time i have been D/C. But recently it's become a lot worse, and more Frequent, im Disconecting for no reasons at all in stations, and it space, Im pretty much afraid to run missions or go into low sec for fear that I may D/C, i know that some people are fine, but there are lots of people who have recently started having problems, not to Complain, or say that im going to quite eve over this or anything, but I do hope it gets fixed soon, what ever the problem may be, since this only started happening to me over the last 3 weeks to 1 month I hardly see how it could be a problem on my side. Since i have been playing about 5 months before without a problem.
exact same problem here
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Posted - 2007.01.19 04:30:00 -
[361]
nearly cannot stand, I drop every 5 min and cannot play the game.
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Xelios
Minmatar
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.19 04:55:00 -
[362]
I get these disconnects too but only when me or my roommates are running Bit Torrent or some other P2P program at full speed. It chokes up the connection and, even though things like browsing the web work fine, results in constant disconnects in EVE. As soon as I turn off all the p2p programs running EVE stays connected just fine.
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Nivor
Majestic Technology
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.19 18:25:00 -
[363]
I've been getting dropped by eve every 10mins or so, thought it might be my ISP playing silly buggers again (I'm with Tiscali still ) but by the looks of this thread I'm not alone. It started about 4-5 days ago. It's hard to pinpoint it but seems to happen more often when I am docked, even when 'active' i.e chatting/browsing market/etc. I've double checked and triple checked everything my end and it all seems ok.
It's pretty annoying cos it doesn't happen all the time.
Come on CCP pull your fingers out and tell us what is happening and get it fixed
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smashsmash
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Posted - 2007.01.20 00:52:00 -
[364]
i only seem to disconnect when i'm idled. for example if i'm docked and go do something else for about 10 minutes i come back and have been disconnected. i haven't been disconnected during active playing and i have done quite a few quests over the last week.
i'm wondering if this is some new system to prevent people from idling? i use to keep eve running between down times and chat with friends through out the day while leaving the house to go to classes and stuff. maybe this kind of activity was causing too much server load and they had to kick people off for idling. it'd be nice to know if this is really the case or not.
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Radica
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.25 05:44:00 -
[365]
Originally by: smashsmash
i only seem to disconnect when i'm idled. for example if i'm docked and go do something else for about 10 minutes i come back and have been disconnected. i haven't been disconnected during active playing and i have done quite a few quests over the last week.
i'm wondering if this is some new system to prevent people from idling? i use to keep eve running between down times and chat with friends through out the day while leaving the house to go to classes and stuff. maybe this kind of activity was causing too much server load and they had to kick people off for idling. it'd be nice to know if this is really the case or not.
A lot of people have the same experience and there's a few threads saying this like This One
If this is actually done on purpose it's one of the most retarded moves CCP has ever made. Try using exploration probes, launching 4 of them (not cheap btw) waiting 5 minutes and instead of getting scan results you get a connection lost message. It really sucks!
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seeeeeeexy
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:33:00 -
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this problem have not been fixed with relevations 1.3
I posted earlier.. - > reemmber I have many computers and many accounts (6+), on same machine some times out, others dont, so its not the router, as some machines work fine, and accounts dont, on the same lan, on the same router on the same ip segment.. all machines are from IBM, original certified machines with original certified drivers.. with original certified release of Win XP with all patches.. now this leads me to one conclusion, this is software related and its driving my covert and force recon ships alts nutty, neither does it help on market lookup.. FIX it..
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Kubbur
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kubbur on 31/01/2007 03:48:10
i dont get it, lots of people complaining about being disconnected
i have never been disconnected from eve unless my router gets unplugged or something like that
i did a small trace to take a look
Tracing route to 87.237.38.200 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxx.xxx.x.xxx
2 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms xxx.xxx.xx.1
3 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms xxx.xxx.99.10
4 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms xxx.xxx.99.10
5 116 ms 12 ms 12 ms xxx.xxx.99.26
6 97 ms 65 ms 72 ms xxx.xxx.99.30
7 63 ms 64 ms 62 ms lon-sa1.LON.GB.net.DTAG.DE [62.154.5.37]
8 63 ms 62 ms 64 ms so-4-2.core2.london1.level3.net [212.187.131.81]
9 63 ms 62 ms 64 ms ae-0-51.gar1.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.11]
10 64 ms 65 ms 65 ms 195.50.91.22
11 64 ms 63 ms 63 ms 87.237.38.199
12 64 ms 64 ms 63 ms 87.237.38.200
Trace complete.
maybe this probelem isnt on everyone :)
i also leave my char afk for hours and come back and can do whatever i want
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Gossef
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Posted - 2007.02.01 02:11:00 -
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I've been getting these disconnects since several days. I never got them at my previous room / i-net connection and the first few days at the new i-net connection were fine, untill some days ago. Every time I idle for more then 1 minutes, I get disconnected. It's horrible to do something like mining and constantly have to open windows and do things just to stay connected, that's just retarted.
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Arba
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Posted - 2007.02.04 05:20:00 -
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Same here. Happens about every 10 to 15 minutes and usually when I am in the dock it seems. I am spending time reading while training at the dock to get back up to speed on the game after a 2 year lay off and this constant disconnect to login screen is not making my return pleasent. I see on another thread it might have something to do an anti AFk code. It is happening to me just like they explain in this link:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=443733&page=1
Trying to check MTU as well by using the recommendations of Linksys makers of my router.
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Pham Sirge
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.04 10:38:00 -
[370]
Hi all,
Im also having this issue.
Its getting rather extreme for me with 5-6 disconnects in a hour period.
I havent changed anything since the last patch.
I figure its something to do with the server because my ts/vent keeps running fine even when I disconnect.
CCP whoever is writing your network code needs a kick up the butt.
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Pham Sirge
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Arba
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Posted - 2007.02.04 13:21:00 -
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God this is getting irritating. I start up training in the hanger and just go to make a coffee and come back. Bam disconnect from Server. This is ridiculous. Someone get a handle on this please......
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Loucien
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Posted - 2007.02.04 17:09:00 -
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I crash within 5 minutes of being logged in. This seems like an awesome game, but this crashing is awful! So much for a 14 day trial if you can't stay connected.
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Adamyk
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Posted - 2007.02.04 19:37:00 -
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ROUTERS!!! ROUTERS!!! I was having this problem and it was making me MADDD but I think I fixed it. In my router settings (usually located at http://192.168.1.1 if it has web access) there was a section called special apps. I opened up ports 26000 and 26001 for Eve to communicate with (that's what it says on the Eve website for ports of communication). No server disconnects today!!
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Redpants
Gallente
Dead Eagle
North Star Confederation
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Posted - 2007.02.04 22:42:00 -
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In the past week or two I believe it's been as worse as ever. I'm getting dropped about every half hour. It seems that when I'm typing up a message or something and I go to hit send boom disconnected. I don't know what or why it's happening but it's getting ridiculous, seriously. No I mean SERIOUSLY.
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Loucien
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:17:00 -
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I'm only on the the trial, so I don't know if devs respond to topics, but can we get a dev response please! This is an absolutely game-breaking issue.
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MorpheusX
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Posted - 2007.02.05 19:15:00 -
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I'm guessing that this is not related to the software itself.
Those who are having problems should post tracelogs, their location and their ISP. Those who are having problems should be sharing something that could be identified as a cause.
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Loucien
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Posted - 2007.02.05 20:01:00 -
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I'm not familiar with tracelog, but my ISP is Wide Open West and I'm in the Chicagoland region. I seriously doubt this is an ISP problem as I have zero trouble playing anything else.
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Jack Quadros
Caldari
Caldari Navy Support
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Posted - 2007.02.05 23:21:00 -
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I'm in Hawaii, specifically O'ahu. ISP is whatever the military uses for their T1, and I run wireless. Haven't had issues until recently.
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Tryptic Photon
Gallente
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.06 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tryptic Photon on 06/02/2007 19:37:15
Same problem, random disconnects on two different computers in different locations, no similarity between network configs (home/work). Clean client installs do not help.
This most often happens while idling in a station for a few minutes, but can also happen while ratting (not good when there's 5 hammerhead2's out there). Love how you still think you're playing for a few minutes, then realize your drones aren't doing any damage. Then, your heart sinks knowing those little 3M bills are toast while frantically relogging.
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Stan Jonsen
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.06 20:32:00 -
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If you runing a Wireless card and a router you might try to ping your router fixed Eve for me.
After the Revelations update the server would disconnected every 10mins or so. I did eveything on the fourms to try to fix it and only one thing that work was to ping my routers IP with -t.
( ping 192.168.xxx.xxx -t )
Eve send so few paeckets that if thats all your doing your wireless card/router will drop your eve ports and go in to standby/powersave mode. I can run every other game BF2 HL2 and it works fine but if I dont ping the router with EVE it will CTD evey time now.
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PikaDrew
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Posted - 2007.02.17 21:35:00 -
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Hello,
I was a tiscali customer, signed up for a year's contract, and I got out free!
Here's how to leave tiscali broadband without charge and move ISP:
Download as much as possible, about 20-30gig a month will get you in their badbooks.
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It will give you a phone number to call to migrate away and they DON'T charge!
Get your MAC (Migrate Away Code) emailed to you and then go to a provider that is ACTUALLY unlimited.
ALL ISPs have 'Fair Usage Policies' and/or cap limits and/or traffic shaping that mess with your EVE and torrents..... except ONE.
It took me 4 days of CONSTANT research and here it is...
fast4.net
No limits! Their policy says they might contact you about your bandwidth usage if you exceed 500gb a month (That's 16gig a day!) but they'll never cap you or shape your traffic. They are officially ACE, ú15.95 a month for 8meg, with no contract.
If you do move to them and this article is of help, mention my Customer ID when you migrate: 200931
It'll save me ú1 a month.
Enjoy peeps!
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Domitia Corbula
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Posted - 2007.02.18 12:43:00 -
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Update on my last post: Looks like I was right, Linux kernel 2.4 and early 2.6 kernels will reset any connection it's NATing if it sees a TCP checksum error. A lot of broadband routers out there are based on Linux and the problem is likely not confined to Linux. I use a PC running Fedora Core Linux as my broadband router. Once I upgraded it to Fedora Core 6 which uses a recent 2.6 kernel. Zero problems in the weeks since.
If you're a techie, you could try turning your router into a bridge and run PPPoE on Windows directly - but make sure you've got Windows firewall on and you're fully patched.
If not, keep screaming to CCP to get the router that's corrupting the packets fixed.
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Rud Arkha
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Posted - 2007.03.04 09:03:00 -
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After last patch,29969,I cant setup station(entering station),my PC blocked.Have problem only with EVE.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.18 10:35:00 -
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Ive had simmilar experience when I was playing Lineage 2.
Devs there were making you check rediculous things and blamed ISP instead of checking their UBER/TOP/EXPENSIVE sexy router system at the data center. They later appologized because they changed something at the datacenter without their knowledge. After weeks of diagnostic and intervention of PROPER admins who have knowledge (unlike many nubs calling themselfs admins just because they know how to wire calbes together and setup windows) they found out the glitch.
I just recently upgraded my trial account to full one. Let me tell you something, ive never ever experienced a game with soo many disconnects EVER !!!!!!!!!! WTF, sometimes every 5 min, sometimes once per hour, sometimes 3 times per hour, and god knows why, once I endured for whole 3 hours, WOW.
Geez CCP get some PROPER admins at work there, not just some nubs that weave diploma at your face. Get some battle hardened Cisco guy or something to fix this issue. Network isnt that complex, atleast not for those who know what theyre doing.
Go abroad, go to the guy who has most probs (at his home), send your techie. Theyll be chillin havin beer, playin EVE untill they encounter probs and troubleshoot with CCP staff on the other side of the telephone line. Im sure its in your budget to make this a reality. For the sake of all of us here. ONE FRIGGIN trip to one problematic guy.
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Zanpt
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:59:00 -
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I suspect the recent spate of frequent disconnects is due to a change/upbgrade/swapout in a network node very close to CCP, perhaps a firewallor proxy. Firewalls and perhaps proxies have to maintain state information about TCP connections passing through them. Because space for connection info is not infinite they MUST employ an algorithm for disconnecting stale connections. I think CCP or one of their cluster site or network vendors changed something that does stateful connection management and overlooked making sure it will not disco the connections before many hours. A client should be able to remain connected until the downtime.
One workaround that seems to work is to subscribe to the Help channel, make it as small as possible, and stash it in a corner of the screen. Help is always active and the traffic seems to prevent the discos. As far as I'm concerned if CCP won't find and fix the real problem then the burden of the additional unnecessary Help traffic is on them.
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funni
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.19 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: funni on 19/03/2007 13:42:40
I'm not so sure this is a "low activity" problem.
I was playing fine yesterday, then all of a sudden my main kept ctd. I hadn't had issues before then,(had my char logged on for about 9 hours by then) and was mining in a undisclosed 0.0 location where there were 4 of us in the entire system. (no lag due to multiple players)
I am/(see was) running 2 acct's one on laptop and one on my desktop. The desktop acct kept crashing and the laptop account was somewhat fine. Every once in awhile it would CTD but it would do it at different times than my desktop... I have a line booster from my cable company to enhance and "clean" my broadband connection and subscribe to shaw's Extreme-I internet speed (10Mbps down). So, no problems on slow net connection.
I don't forsee any reason why all of a sudden this problem would arise.
I did reboot my desktop.. the problem persisted.. so it is not my hardware. I do not run sound mode on, and the lag from video isn't going to be tremendous (regardless of your vid card spec's) when your mining.. alone..
I should also mention, I do have a wireless router, however, my desktop is hardwired through a brand new cable and my laptop is wireless..
thanks
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*edit due to clarification*
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:24:00 -
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OK, new info.
Im not sure what happened from yesterday to today, but now im getting periodic disconnects every 8 minutes like clockwork.
And please dont be offending my ISP or connection, its EVE, was soo from the start.
I just hope this 8 min cycle can tell you something to troubleshoot or atleat narrow the list of susspects soo to speak.
Cheers.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 14:41:00 -
[388]
I just hope the Need for speed initiative commin in tommorows patch is in the form of InfiniBand hardware not just some *****ling around the code and optimizing star systems.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:16:00 -
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Furthermore I discovered, whenever there is increased interaction from my side, EVE crashes and restsrts the client.
Whenever I click fast or type fast, soo it cant COPE (apparently), this happens.
Like there was some kind of filter allowing in just soo much or lagging soo bad it couldnt handle all the (minute) info.
I sencerely hope this is just a glitch because some of your hardware had to be put offline or simmilar.
But an OFFICIAL word here on these forums would put us at ease.
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WARPIGG
Caldari
Prox XII
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:21:00 -
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i cant play enymore cuz of this crap,about the only thing i can do befor geting booted from server is train a skill,last time i was in my falcon server disconnected me and when i got bak on i was uncloaked and 25km from a gate where i got popped.not only did these fools tell me thay will not give me bak my ship but thay also said ther was nothing wrong with the server at ther end witch is a F'n load of crap
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funni
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:00:00 -
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Agreed it is a total load of crap.
And, now that you mention that it would crash if you typed too fast etc. It ctd on me alot faster if I got reinvited back to gang..
I am hoping that little dt this morning fixed it. DT is only supposed to be an hour but still when i left for work EvE was down. I am no longer training skills on two of my chars..
thanks ccp...
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 20:45:00 -
[392]
Well its a big day tommorow for them (and us), so today they were probably preparing and things couldnt be optimal. I understand.
But if this becomes ongoing endevour, Im outa here, not playing EVE no more.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:24:00 -
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After 1.4 patch I get disconnected every 2 min now.
What the F*** is this games problem. Why on earth does it generate soo many simultaneous streams of data to be sent and received. OPTIMIZE it or get a new switch damn it. Now im ****ed.
You pay for a service to presumably enjoy a game. I dont dare leave the station for gods sake.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.21 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Avid Amari on 20/03/2007 23:59:57
CCP are scratching their heads, because none of the network admins is a proper expert network admin.
They say there is no patern to the problem,... hehe since when do computer problems have patterns to the untrained eye? (little sarcasm here)
Everyone is experiencing huge packet losses, why is this happening recently? It may be YOUR data center and YOUR ISP screwing things up, not ours.
PLZ hit them on the head with something, for all our sake. Else you will get massive complaing, whining, confused people on your doorstep.
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Bankbediende
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Posted - 2007.03.21 02:19:00 -
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I keep get disconnected. When I idle mostly.
It's really getting worse and worse.
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Bankbediende
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Posted - 2007.03.21 02:19:00 -
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I keep get disconnected. When I idle mostly.
It's really getting worse and worse.
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Cyno Gon
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Posted - 2007.03.21 05:40:00 -
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I have been playing a trial account for a few days now and have been experiencing intermittent disconnects. This evening it is particularly bad, after getting disconnected in the middle of a pirate fight I managed to get back on only to find myself in a pod with the wreck of my ship floating nearby. Since then I have tried a number of times but usually get disconnected less than a couple of minutes in. So far not a great motivator to keep playing I have to say.
PingPlotter is showing consistent packet loss in the fr3.lon.llnw.net domain. I am located on the west coast of Canada.
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boyeatscake
Amarr
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.03.21 06:54:00 -
[398]
I get dropped from time to time lately too
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yakooza
Ordos Humanitas
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.21 09:39:00 -
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I have 2 accounts that disconnect after 3 mins idle. Not fun.
My isp? dunno - IINET in Perth WAustralia
Both accounts are recent installs on a new vista 64 system that has NOT missed a beat yet. I'm actually surprised. Just so you know, I dual boot(different hdd on xp) and the same thing happens.
*shrugs*
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.21 12:25:00 -
[400]
When I first started playing trial account something more than 2 weeks ago, I had no issues whatsoever. Game was running smooth with an occasional disconnect (hardly any). Now like week ago, everything started happening. There was one patch, but I think they did something with the hardware allso.
I registered the game to full version, and Im thinking of not playing anymore.
It really doesnt matter what our ISP or where we live, we all have this problems and only common denominator in this equasion is their SERVER and mybe their connecton (ISP).
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.23 12:48:00 -
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This is umbeliveable.
Yesterday I really thought it was fixed, I had no disconnects for hours (6 I think) non stop. Today in the morning allso.
But after todays downtime, they had to meddle with the HW and/or settings again, now Im getting disconnected every 5 minutes again.
I undock,.. black screen. DC
I log back in, take a mission,... undock, phew I think, maybe was just a glich. I fly to system in Pulin.
I warp into the mission lock on targets, deploy drones, boom. DC
I login back again, lock targets, deploy drones,.. boom. DC
I log back in again, Deploy drones, lock targets,.. guess what. DISCONNECT.
FIX the damn thing allready, if new hardware is causing this problems maybe its whined too tight, maybe some protection/filter parrameters are too strict about packets or I dont know what. Figure it out. I dont want to bang my head every day and be mad at you and to foolishly suggest me its my ISP and such, cause Ive called them and everything checks out. Been down that painfull road for the whole past week, ever since your new soo called NEED FOR SPEED initiative started ruining my day.
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Hayward Cyprus
Caldari
Exiled.
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Posted - 2007.03.23 15:01:00 -
[402]
I will be adding myself to the diconnecting list, seems to happen to all big online games every once in a while, but quite frankly, if the problem persists over more than a week or two, and after my complete reinstall, I will just stop being a paying customer.
Hayward Cyprus
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Blink00
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Posted - 2007.03.24 00:51:00 -
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Updating my router firmware fixed the problem for me. those of you with a linksys router that are having this problem, look into updating the firmware. apparently one of the recent patches did something that disagrees with the old firmware.
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.03.24 15:39:00 -
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Seems this problem has ups and downs for me. Lately Ive had many headaches over this. Then all of asudden my problem ceased. I was able to play efortlessly for more than 6 hrz. then the next day after server downtime, I was back in disconnecting bussiness. Then after one more petition (some hours later actually) disconnecting issue stopped all of a sudden. now Im playing without disconnects for 1.5 days allready.
I wont ask what they did, honestly I dont care as long as I receive service everyone else enjoys. I know this single server is a monstrous project and must be hard for everything to work as it does. And Im glad this issue resolved for me (nothing changed on my side of the line tho).
Cheers.
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Sally Va
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Posted - 2007.03.24 15:39:00 -
[405]
Still keep disconnecting WAY more than ever before.
It's not my ISP (i checked)
It's not my router (latest firmware installed - no firewall blocking or any such)
It's not my pc (antivirus - anti spy/malware stuff installed, all latest XP patches etc)
It's not my sound settings (everything is turned off in eve)
It's not my gfx settings (everything is updated with the correct latest drivers)
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MadRice
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Posted - 2007.03.30 21:55:00 -
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I'm constantly being disconnected while docked. Most of the time outside it's ok, but when docked - even if I'm looking at the market or doing something with my items, if I stay docked for more than a minute or so it will disconnect me. It's very annoying.
At least it's only when docked for me I guess. I've heard awful stories from others about disconnects while warping into a massive battle and then coming back to a pod :(
Disappointing to see how old this topic is and that still nothing has been done about it.
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Dei
Amarr
Khanid Aerospace Group
Khanid Provincial Authority
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Posted - 2007.03.31 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dei on 31/03/2007 15:04:50
I noticed that here CCP states that a ping of over 180ms will get constant disconnects. I checked, and I keep getting a ping of 188ms when pinging the server ip - due to someone else on the network surfing the interwebs.
I think most people's problems are high ping tbh, if they lifted the threshold to 220ms it might solve some peoples problems.
However, I have 2 clients running most of the time, and I find that when having one idling in station, and one doing something like travelling, the one in station will disconnect but not the other. It's like they have an anti-idling feature...
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Vaal Finndal
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Posted - 2007.03.31 19:08:00 -
[408]
I'm not sure if anybody has said this already but i'm not reading through 14 pages to see, so apologies if i'm repeating info...
I had this problem for several weeks and it turned out to be my Nvidia firewall on my motherboard. I only figured it out when i realised that ALL my downloads were getting corrupted. I switched back to windows firewall and haven't been disconnected since.
Now if I can only stop this incessant flickering!
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.04.02 18:09:00 -
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I have max 50 ping to CCP server and I get disconnected every 5 minutes.
STILL my issue isnt resolved. Im fighting with this for more than 20 days now, And of those 20 days Im not playing for 15 days, because I cant. I will cancel my subscription, Its kinda pointless paying for a game you cant play.
They kinda gave up on me after I thought my probs were gone, but theyre back with a vengance. I dont even bother to contact support no more, cause they have no clue and they would have me run PingPlotter all day and such then telling me contact my ISP. Done that 3 times allready and everything checks out, Im getting nice connection to 87.237.38.200 with average ping 43.
I said many times and Ill say it again; It all began 1 patch before 1.4.
Theyre clueless,... thank you very much. BYE EVE, Im goin LOTRO
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.04.03 12:25:00 -
[410]
Edited by: Avid Amari on 03/04/2007 12:24:35
SOLLUTION
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Avid Amari on 03/04/2007 17:51:31
OK I found a SOLLUTION.
Took me countless hours and some headaches and yelling at CCP who were not to blame, nether is my ISP. The problem seems bizare at first glance, but its totally verified and tested (repeatable beyond any doubt).
My setup:
I hope all who have this issue can identify yourself with this allso.
My gaming PC is far from remarkable. It consists of AMD XP 2k CPU, nVidia geforce 6800GT, 1.5 Gb RAM, 450 Gb RAID disks, nForce 2 chipset motherboard, Audigy 2 sound card and im running Windows VISTA.
I have 2 PCs connected to my Netgear router which is then connected to my Motorola Cable modem 2000/256.
Mediocre gaming machine which served me for 2 years and I hope to squeese some 6 more months out of it.
CAUSE:
OK cause of my disconnecting issue is laughable because If everything in this world would be ideal, the problem wouldnt exist in the first place. Its fact P2P programs such as Emule, Torrent programs and such have a high demmand on router resources by making too many simultaneous connections at any given time, causing router to overload. Todays commercial (all sub 100$) routers werent meant for such a beating. What do I mean by this? Well router has onboard CPU to process the streaming data flow and RAM to memorize incomming and outgoing connections to a route table. This route table is quite limmiting when it comes to P2P programs such as uTorrent for example. How soo? Well Torrent programs make way too much connections, which fills up the route table quite fast and CLOGS it up, leaving very little to none resources available for other processes (let it be browsing, gaming or internet radio/video). Well such is the case that Games, and other streaming connections such as Internet radio/video require a very stable uninterrupted data flow as possible. Since uTorrent pounds at the router constantly, such stable data flow is impossible with these cheap routers where table corruption occurs because of insufficient ressources. Router just cant handle it because it lacks RAM to store all those requests of outgoing and incomming traffic.
SOLLUTION:
Sollution is quite simple and straightforward. All you have to do is disable any such program from running (utorrent, emule, and other P2P sw). Then you have to physically unplug your router and modem from power for 3 minutes appr. (go make a coffe or something). First plug in the router and let it sit for 2 min, then you power on your modem and wait a bit for them two to sync up. Check if internet is working by opening google page or simmilar.
As stupid as this sounds my friends, its the holy trouth. It kinda suxx todays router manufacturers are skimping on the routers circuit innards, but lets be honest, they didnt have P2P programs in mind when they made those things. If you want a permanent sollution read on the reccomendation.
RECCOMENDATION:
For all of you P2P lovers out there, who cant live without having it turned on for 24/7, read on.
Well there are gamer routers and network cards out there. Why is this of any signifficance? Because these are specially build with best possible electronics and aditional onboard ram to cope with such issues and lag too.
2nd option you have which works best of all is you make your own router rig. Being a linux computer PC setup solely to act as a router. Have that baby configured as you please. Its prooven beyond any doubt that this setup works against lag and can cope with all and any P2P requests because it has more powerfull CPU (depends what CPU are you willing to use for this project), and enough RAM (depends how much ram are you willing to sacriffice).
OK, if you dont belive me, do your googling, cause Im tired and I simply dont remember the sites anymore. Been through too many. Bottom line is, my disconnecting issue is fixed, and I appologize to any CCP technician I might have caused gray hair over this.
Cheers.
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Kharyon
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Posted - 2007.04.05 04:43:00 -
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One possible reason for this is if you are on a wireless router you may be losing your connection to your router from your computers adapter. This is commonly caused by interference from wireless phones and an assortment of other things.
WARNING only try this if you know what you are doing
one way to fix this is to change the channel your router/adapter is using. to check the way your channels are set up contact your manufacturer
example for Belkin routers
http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&pid=F5D7230-4&aid=2437&scid=0
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Avid Amari
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Posted - 2007.04.05 13:12:00 -
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Have no clue man, they aint telling us how it works.
i just found a SURE way to stop my disconnects.
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chinefoo
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Posted - 2007.04.05 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: chinefoo on 05/04/2007 15:42:02
99% of the issue is firewall / router !
settings change all the time just a little bit seems to confuse many routers and windoz firewall "loseit"
there is a post in the foroms that speak in GREAT detail
on setup and a setting that fixes all the issues explained. here for peeps on a network i used it and
with a old vidio card have had absolutly no crash to desktops in 3 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the voice thing is a dif issue
no matter what happens it seems that after every patch a setting or protical from the server has thrown a packet at your comp that does not recognize it hence crashola if it wre a server disconnect then everybody would be down not a few alllllll its a client side problim and most cases its the router or firewall setting
p.s haveing a wife with a masters in network engenering also helps! she seen the issue in 2 mins after it happend on her comp and took her a grand tottal of 1 min to fix !!!! not to mention that p2p torrent thing is a major hog turn that off!
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Tex Rodgers
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Posted - 2007.04.05 15:50:00 -
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I just bought the game and am on my 30 day trial. I'm disconnecting like 5-6 times per session. Right now I've lost connection 4 times in a row and am unable to play. My internet connection is on solid during this time and no other services are interrupted and I can play other MMO games without this issue.
This is going to be a deal breaker for me, I can't subscribe to a game that I can't play. Any fixes for this? I'm using a router if that helps, but I've never had to tinker with router settings for an MMO.
Does anyone know of router settings I can add, port forwarding and such to resolve this issue? I'm not even going to play till I can find a fix, because I know my brand new ship will get destroyed if I attempt to fight lol.
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monkeyduck
Mithril Inc
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.05 17:14:00 -
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It seems that there are different groups of individuals having disconnect problems, likely from totally different sources.
1) They can be disconnected at any time.
2) They are ONLY disconnected after going idle for more than a few minutes (<10 mins).
I'm in the 2nd group. I can play without no disconnects for hours on end. I dock up and go out to the fridge to grab a drink, quick bio, and come back then go to undock/check items/anything that involves receiving information and... connection lost.
As for the P2P fix, if that works it's unfortunate for those of us who don't and never had P2P programs installed.
They really need to get this idle thing fixed though. 45min of idle I can understand, but 3-5 mins of being idle is total annoyance - especially if you are sitting idle for PVP reasons (cloaked, etc)!! I need to train my cats to hit random keys into chat while I'm gone.
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chinefoo
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Posted - 2007.04.05 17:23:00 -
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yea well i really doubt that its a bug
my client is running now !
im at work 25 miles away
when i get home it will be up and running after 9 hrs !!!
every weekend i do this to experiance no issues
unless a black time out screen due to windoz is a issue
not! i move mousie and bang eve in station hrs i do mean every bit of hrs!!!!!
i guess that ccp needs to put up a sticky that never goes away ! that is computer and network\ routr settings !!!!
i mean cmon guys i had this game since beta 2 !!!!!
still have that build in my hd somewhere!
everysingle time its alllways a issue client side!!
well not every time but not enuff to warrent a patch and endless streams of topics saying that eve this ccp that!
read the router and port topics in there lay the secrets to game play!
if your too lazy to read then wait 6 weeks for your petition to be replied to and find out that they direct you to your firewall router network! rarely is it a cashe thng but thats also a issue and simple to fix !
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rhum moonshine
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Posted - 2007.04.05 18:11:00 -
[418]
I ve set all the firewall and router setting and it still does it! It may be a client fault but i would love to know what was doing it!
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monkeyduck
Mithril Inc
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.05 18:51:00 -
[419]
Originally by: chinefoo
Edited by: chinefoo on 05/04/2007 17:25:14
yea well i really doubt that its a bug
my client is running now !
im at work 25 miles away
when i get home it will be up and running after 9 hrs !!!
every weekend i do this to experiance no issues
unless a black time out screen due to windoz is a issue
not! i move mousie and bang eve in station hrs i do mean every bit of hrs!!!!!
i guess that ccp needs to put up a sticky that never goes away ! that is computer and network\ routr settings !!!!
i mean cmon guys i had this game since beta 2 !!!!!
still have that build in my hd somewhere!
everysingle time its alllways a issue client side!!
well not every time but not enuff to warrent a patch and endless streams of topics saying that eve this ccp that!
read the router and port topics in there lay the secrets to game play!
if your too lazy to read then wait 6 weeks for your petition to be replied to and find out that they direct you to your firewall router network! rarely is it a cashe thng but thats also a issue and simple to fix !
P.s TEX nobody can direct you due to your the only one who has access to your router and the brand if you go to search in foroms and type in router settings there is a great deal of info there! also look around in foroms there is someplace a very detailed topic on this !
Many times it is client side and it may be in this case. HOWEVER, this just started after one of the recent patches. I've played since 2003 with no issues. I've not changed my router settings since (this occurs even when bypassing the router). A large number of individuals affected after a recent patch lends towards something involving the network component of the game was changed and it's having negative interactions with a large group of user networks as a result.
It's not likely a bug since not everyone is affected, it's more likely that they changed network configs and it borked a number of individuals. As such, they should fix what they changed, or let users know what the problem is so they can attempt to remedy it themselves. Of which, neither has been done.
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chinefoo
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Posted - 2007.04.05 19:48:00 -
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eh i dont know on that
130.000 subscriberes 25.000 online and only 10 to maybe 100 are having issues? or at least thats all that seem to know of the foroms
hard to say. will ccp do a major patch doubt it.
i seen a few have tryed to alter firewall settings
please look at the info http://srch.eve-online.com/search?q=router+settings&filte
r=0&getfields=page-topic&getfields=page-topic&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&client=default_frontend&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=default_frontend
god thats a link from hell .
anyway that link is here and ccp put it up there are like 10 topics on settings !
but to think unless many and i mean a lot of peeps have the problim ccp is not going to write more code for the few !
as soon as i find the detailed info i will post for you all but i do know that the last time i ga\ot a patch it did mess with a router port which i fig out right away !
so id say a few peeps have certian ports config for the game and those are the areas that need tweeking
and im sure when found a few will be like yer kidding
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t3kman
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Posted - 2007.07.10 09:45:00 -
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am I blind (yes I'm after reading for hours) or I didn't read any solution for this disconnection problems???
ok, I got my new ADSL connection, before I was on 5GHz wireless to my ISP and all was ok but on ADSL its NOT!
here it is what I do
-running game on same PC, nothing changed - drivers, software etc...
-not runing any software except EVE (downloaders, firewall, antivirus... nothing !)
-running 1-3 accounts same problem with disconnect, all random disconnect, even sometimes I got disconnect only 1 account-->that which is AFK only
but, my brother have ADSL on another line, another ISP, another ADSL modem, and when I connect his connection on my PC I NEVER got disconnect, when I connect my 5GHz wirelles to my ISP I never got random disconnect.
I still not try his ADSL modem on my PC which I'm not shure that will work becouse my ADSL router is on ISDN pnone line, his modem is on standard digital phone line (in my ISP they say to me I ned router for ISDN, they are different)
but after all I think problem is in router, not in ISP, not in PC, not in game.
some of you will ask why then I don't use my other connections which work??? easy, I can't becouse my brother is download maniac and my 5GHz wireless work perfectly "when work" but I got random disconnections to my ISP (problem with their server or some part of their equipment) for 2-5 minutes randomly sometimes 1x per day, sometimes 5x per hour, that's the problem and that's why I get ADSL.
then... if someone find or have solution for this sometimes, just drop solutions here or on my email [email protected] or EVEmail tocaracter name: zwo
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t3kman
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Posted - 2007.07.10 09:52:00 -
[422]
try to turn off firewall in router, I think that helped to me.. still testing
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0lawy
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.10 13:08:00 -
[423]
Did set the PC with Eve to DMZ, no help, still disconnects after some time idling.
It is like there is some undocumented "keep-alive" what brakes with NAT.
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t3kman
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Posted - 2007.07.10 22:11:00 -
[424]
YES,
working perfectly on ADSL Router with disabled firewall in router! finaly...
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Mashashige
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Posted - 2007.07.12 01:52:00 -
[425]
I had the same problem. It seems to happen due to routers\firewalls blocking\closing the ports eve uses. my guess is (though im far from an expert on networking) that eve is either overloading data and so the router\firewall is unable to deal with this and it shuts the ports down or its sending too little packets and the router thinks the port is not in use anymore and closes it.
anyhow, for me it was as simple as reseting the router and modem I use.
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KOJIKI
Minmatar
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.14 09:56:00 -
[426]
Way too long thread to read through but could this be the same issue as the 'de-sync' problem people experience? Or at least part of the same main problem??
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Kailiani
Fracked Up beyond All Recognition
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Posted - 2007.08.12 15:59:00 -
[427]
Hi i keep disconnecting!! it stops responding but if you click open windows and load stuff it will in 5-10 seconds start responding again.. but if your idle it will just disconnect.
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Gewels
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Posted - 2007.08.28 06:53:00 -
[428]
Hi all.
I usually get DC after 3 - 4 min of not performing any action in game.
I SOLVED MY DISCONNECT PROBLEMS with the suggestion in the very begining of the thread
1 : open command line
2 : type "ping 87.237.38.200 -t"
3 : press enter
4 : play eve with no DC
Good Game
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Blank Protection
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.28 12:30:00 -
[429]
Its not always the ISP or router etc.
I had disconnect problems only on my Desktop PC not on my Laptop.
So what i did was going into the bios of my desktop PC and just lower the CPU voltage from 1.75 to 1.6.
Now i play Eve for hours and hours on my desktop pc and no Disconnects at all.
Try it also.
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Khais Spirit
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Posted - 2007.09.16 18:11:00 -
[430]
I experience the same thing on my laptop. Until today I've played it with no problem at all. Now it just keeps disconnecting me every 10-60 seconds. I've also tried the "ping 87.237.38.200 -t" but it doesn't help.
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