If you don't like what he did, why don't you do something about it instead of crying on the forums trying to get someone else to do something?

Dispensing your own justice is what this game is all about. You have yourself a valid cause. Do something about it.

Nope. I would apologize to the dude on behalf of EVE community.

mmmmhmmmm. There looking for death and destruction. Not some funny troll. People send them weird crap everyday. You think this audio file is any different?

Guys, guys, I can fix this. From reading this thread and Jesters blog it seems the problem is that he used the out of game TS. Apparently everything would be jake if he'd kept it in game. So Erotica 1 can keep on bonus rooming it up, just use Eve Voice bro! Everything is fine then.

So Erotica 1 can keep on bonus rooming it up, just use Eve Voice bro!

Some people say things they don't mean in the heat of the moment. Whether you judge them for that is one thing. You might be in a rage, drunk or just joking - once you've said it it's done.

It doesn't mean that you believe it. Whether you try and dance around it with semantics is irrelevant. The guy had been pushed to his limit and he lost it.

Moi Kirsi.

Its insane to spend 2hrs tormenting someone and their wife for no profit whatsoever.

Some people say things they don't mean in the heat of the moment. Whether you judge them for that is one thing. You might be in a rage, drunk or just joking - once you've said it it's done.

It doesn't mean that you believe it. Whether you try and dance around it with semantics is irrelevant. The guy had been pushed to his limit and he lost it.

Im saying not his fault completely for that comment, he most likely didn't mean what he said, but i do disagree with wanting someone dead

but again, not entirely his fault, more so its the scammer's fault for pushing him, which provoked that out burst, yet here you are saying the Victim should be punished

led to a situation he can't escape? escape was 1 damn mouse click away for the ENTIRE duration of that recording.

But, naturally when one of your kind gets criticized the usual suspects and I mean that literally come out of the woodwork to make sure that their beloved "tear extraction" isn't being nerfed. You all go to great lengths to obfuscate the issue trying to turn the issue so that you shift the blame toward the "pubbie".

Insta-ban if he does. 100% certain.

Thats why he doesn't. But don't worry. This will gain enough momentum for action to be taken, either way.

CNN works in departments. Killing and blood is for front page news. But their tech department right now is looking for some juicy action - its all boring usual tech news atm.

I will be honest, chances CNN will pick this up are slim to none, but I sent the links and a TL:DR to about 20 news sites now.

With any luck, this will snowball.

Steele, be straight with me on this; while the caller really went too far with the threats, don't you think Ero has become skilled in picking out who is most likely to go off the deep end and then push them off it by whatever means for entertainment?

A scam is one thing, but this is another. While the victim, again, went too far in his threats, you don't have a single bone in your body that makes you think that Ero's 'fun' goes a bit too far sometimes?

If I was CCP, I would boot E1 & Co. and pass therir IPs to law enforcement.

The guy literally never undocks. There is nothing TO do about it; the game prevents it.

Insta-ban if he does. 100% certain.

Thats why he doesn't. But don't worry. This will gain enough momentum for action to be taken, either way.

You can pick away at everything I typed all you want, the central issue here is that you (and others) are condoning actions by someone that picked on a weaker person by judging the victim for their behavior, which you clearly would not do.

It seems there is no shortage of people in the world these days that have an opinion on how someone else should live their life. Be it how you do your job, how you drive your car to work, what you post on the internet, or how you play a video game. These same people who know all the "right" and "wrong" way to do things are just as human as everyone else and they all have some weakness that could be exploited. Sometimes those weaknesses get harmlessly exploited and most of us laugh it off. However, in this case, it is crystal clear that this crossed the line of truly unacceptable behavior in society. Within our gaming world, I think that matters a great deal. I hope CCP agrees.

Burn the witch

The guy literally never undocks. There is nothing TO do about it; the game prevents it.

Burn the witch

the difference is irrelevant, he could have still left whenever the hell he pleased.

and people are casually ignoring that he's a racist that threatens people, they still haven't accepted that fact.

He has a killboard so he literally does undock. He's in an alliance that is almost constantly at war. Maybe you should convenience him to undock in something shiney.

Lets do a comparison. 70 titans die and battle costs 500,000 in rl assets. right? This makes headline news all over the internet. Not Cnn but it did make yahoo.com news. So your gonna push them to do a news story over 1 bil of isk. Your pathetic.

Honestly Anslo, I do find the bonus room to be a distasteful practice and it is definitely not my thing. I've said before that I feel it went too far on comms, and despite my appreciation for the content E1 creates I stand by that. Personally I think that scamming etc is best kept in game, if for no other reason than to prevent the Ripard Tegs of the world from making a federal case out of it.

I also laughed when sokhar flipped out, so I guess that makes me a hypocrite.

It's a complex issue, but at the end of the day I am far more uncomfortable with censorship than I am with the bonus room.

Do I think any bullying occurred here though? No. The guy was 100% complicit in his experience. To call that torture is wildly polemical at best.

Do I think anyone should get the banhammer over this? I don't think out of game comms is CCP's purview personally, but that being said it is their game and their choice as to who they let play it.

I think what makes me most uncomfortable with this **** is how the guys like sokhar get caught up in these bonus rooms. Dude has been playing Eve for seven years. How in the hells do you fall for something like this with seven years of gameplay under your belt?

Maybe because some of us have a better grasp of logic and human reasoning.

Even for deadly serious real life matters, in courts things like Duress, Extenuating Circumstances, and even Diminished Capacity exist. Since someone pushed by force, emotions, or circumstance has much less burden of responsibility than another doing the same under orderly and perfect conditions. It can mean the difference between manslaughter convictions or 1st degree.

Also, 'simply leaving' is much the same thing I'm sure battered women hear all the time. "why don't you just leave him?"

Sometimes people are emotionally invested in various matters, that even if taking any physical action to leave the situation is completely possible, the will to is completely absent.

Anyone else not taking those matters into consideration are just actively and intentionally looking for reasons not to hold the instigator(s) with any responsibility of the scenario.

**** that. When dealing with bullying, gloves come off. And i dont care.