Fleet incaps guns, fleet is invulnerable to gun damage.

Its a 48 hour timer, the assets will be gone.

Which means I am correct in saying it will kill pvp outside of it. That isn't good for EVE.

Seems to me that the people trying to 'protect eve's core nature' are doing the opposite based on a unproven assumption that it will take over the game.

Perhaps instead of instantly disliking the idea you guys can find constructive ways to improve the idea to prevent the things you don't want happening from happening

I think its fairly obvious that people require a few things.
1. All assets are destroyable inside the ring including pods
2. Dojo's can be reinforced/destroyed along with everything inside
3. Dojo's drop loot when destroyed
4. Some kind of limit needs to be imposed to prevent everyone from only using dojos forever.
Limit to 1v1's? Only playable X matches per week?

Dojo's would allow new people or care bears to practice pvp in an environment they feel is educational. Being ganked by 20 dudes can only educate you so much. This allows more people a controlled access to pvp and will increase the amount of people learning and engaging in pvp.

It should also be lore related. some kind of minmatar capsuleer game? Through lore you can implement restrictions that people are looking for.

You people need to start working WITH ccp instead of against them.

I see your "It will hurt small scale PvP" and raise you a "It will SHIFT small scale PvP into controlled and fair environments". If the change would attract a lot of people, then *maybe* it is a change that people actually want.

No confirmation on that - personally, I'd think when it gets RF'd, you shouldn't be able to extract any assets. It's non-functional at that point, and transferring things in and out is a function.

In addition, how does it get stocked? Do you do it from station, or do you have to take a hauler/carrier out to stock/unstock it? If you have to actually bring the stuff to it, and it's got an anchoring timer (so it can't be stocked immediately), then doesn't that make these things a potential target, and the hauler coming to put stuff into it even more of a target?

And if items can be removed from it during RF via hauler, then doesn't that just make an RF'd dojo cloaky dictor-bait, waiting for the owner to come and try to save his stuff?

Which means I am correct in saying it will kill pvp outside of it. That isn't good for EVE.

These are things that have yet to be announced. For now based upon the info we have the only sticking point is the instanced matches.

This would be Great!














On Sisi, on TQ PvP should be as fair as all involved allow it to be, If I want to fight there are duels, yellow cans, everything that isn't high-sec, war-decs for a reason.
Also if you make this people will abuse the **** out of it to not get scanned down.

You mean PPPPPBvP, right?
Player, player, player, player, player, booster vs. hapless Player - right?

To not get scanned down for 5 minutes? LOL
Not really seeing the potential for abuse there my friend.

Right, but functionally, what we're looking at is no different (since the structure can be scanned down) from 'this is a new type of POS where individuals can only target other players inside the forcefield', no?

To not get scanned down for 5 minutes? LOL
Not really seeing the potential for abuse there my friend.

Marauder coming out of bastion that needs a safe spot before it docks.

I tried it and I like it very much. This is a prototype and I see a lot of potential in that idea. All you leet people here whinning about the dead of 1v1 are just ridiculous. Flying for hours and searching for someone to kill with your off grid booster and cyno ready, is just pathetic and should not be the focus of PvP oriented gameplay design. Arenas are fine for people that want just fights. No drama, no ogb, no falcon, no blob, just figts. PvP in general - 1v1, fleet, blob, whatever - in my opinion should happen where player interests collide. This can be sov or fw or hunting explorers, haulers, or other juicy targets whereever you want. But it should focus on the friction that different interests generate.

So *thumbs up* from me. I hope the feature get's more dev time and focus to become a great arena implementation with betting, tournaments and competitions, maybe even leaderboards, crack and whores.

How would you get your marauder in there if all ships and fits have to come from the dojo and cannot leave the "arena"?

Same way we get them into FW ded sites.

Marauder coming out of bastion that needs a safe spot before it docks.

As I said, who wants to go hunt things and risk being blobbed when you can push button get fight.

Working so no time to look at Dualkitty

Under the vague description of the proposed mechanic I get the impression that flying to the depot is not needed by the person who deploys it? Or the invited guest? That there is some in station stocking of items and match making? Is that correct?

***IF*** this makes it to TQ what reason would anyone have to deploy these anywhere else but in HS where there would be almost zero risk to assets?

48h Reinforce timer means ample time for assets to be evacuated.
No bubbles means nothing actually stopping anyone from leaving with assets.
Meaning no reason to bother shooting the arena deployable whatsoever.

Given most pilots in Eve will go to great lengths to minimize risk in any form I don't see this being used anywhere other than HS so that peoples assets are untouchable....and effectively unassailable while in space

Idgi

As I said, who wants to go hunt things and risk being blobbed when you can push button get fight.

Matches can be arranged from anywhere in system it looks like, you do not necessily have to be docked. Am uncertain (not tested this aspect), if being in space in a ship already affects anything.