Chill buddy, just wanted to point out that one of your concerns was covered in the original post and many times throughout the thread. I would point it out to you but it won't let me quote that many times in one post.

Hence the thread ya knuckle scraper, because this might get to the main server it's relivant to everyone with a sub.

Hence the thread ya knuckle scraper, because this might get to the main server it's relivant to everyone with a sub.

my standby triage socket closed, too bad

Again, this is not true.

It's only relevant (in a negative way) to people that blob people looking for fair fights.

Its objectively relevant in a positive way to a larger number of people.

If there are a larger number of people than the blobbers looking for fair fights, what's stopping them from getting together and counter-blobbing?

pvp in a 'protected' area - the new ultimate care-bears of Eve Online.

Sad really.

pvp in a 'protected' area - the new ultimate care-bears of Eve Online.

Sad really.

I know, I did read it, I've been antagonised by a lot of idiots tonight and it did seem quite pretentious to suggest I edit my post but, in actuality, I was just trying to be as constructive and descriptive as possible about what I feel is most important. Essentially, reinforcing what I agree with in the idea. Perhaps I overreacted, but I've had a lot to deal with tonight. I certainly jumped the gun in vehemently opposing the idea in my first post, that much I'll own in its entirety. In any case, I do want to see EVE improve, but without losing its flavour.

$%^&ing CCP, they made me like a Josef Djugashvilis post with the Dojo BS.

The world must really be ending!

You agree tournament pilots are the ultimate carebears?

You agree tournament pilots are the ultimate carebears?

You agree tournament pilots are the ultimate carebears?

well i didn't think so before. What about this could you not do before given the proper motivation?

Control which ships are stocked in the Dojo?
Prevent neutral logi?

Just first thoughts.

well i didn't think so before. What about this could you not do before given the proper motivation?

I do support it only if it is scannable and able to be destroyed. Anything promoting instancing or safety from outside interference is not in the spirit of EVE.

New Eden is a cold, cruel place, as are its denizens, so why should we support something that promotes safety?

All the talk about scannable dojo, reinforce timer, etc... If only one of you would log in on Duality, he/she would see that the "Dojo" is just a mobile depot with the dojo feature attatched to it. It's a prototype of the dojo function. There actualley are exactly zero facts about its stats. It's a freakin mobile depot with huge cargo. Really people.. so mutch shittalk and anger about nothing. But don't let facts interrupt your discussion. (BTW. This is the first real fact since page 32)

Add to that OGB links, implants check, boundary violation check, modules check, etc

Ok, soo... you couldn't have a ref/organizing party organizing a tourney in a test server under pre dojo conditions?

Require all participants to join the organizing corp in the test server, the ceo or others with sufficient rights to look through the assets of the participants ensuring a compliance with fits. Have them set their clone to the station of the event at the time there of, have them undock and pod them. Have refs/organizers with a few long range alpha ships configured to blap at whatever exceeds given boundary the organizers set (eg: sit in the middle, whack anything to exceed 100km). And simply disqualify any that break the rules of underhanded logi or OGB's. If you see someone whos not supposed to be there simply pause the match or run another one. It would be up to the organizers to pick a system remote enough to be unlikely to bump into. Any players you find that consistantly screw with the tourney can be handled by your community with a simple black list.

This example has a way of dealing with:
+OGB's
+Neutral logi
+implant verification
+boundary violations
+module verification
+ship verification

As I said, this would be done on a test server not requiring the actual investment in ships and modules, and under more lab like conditions. other players can still put forth the effort to screw with you if they like, but without real killmails and no purposeful repercussions aside from harvesting frustration, there are more meaningful ways of screwing with folk in the live server where loss matters.

The organizers could set up what ever incentive policy they like to attract participants and fund their operations. Not to mention stream for spectators to enjoy.

If you put half as much effort into trying to solve the situation your self as you do backing a mechanic to do if for you with less options, you could have done something like this long ago. Especially since you speak for so much of the community and have been longing for this content for years. So please, explain how you could not attempt a totally emergent tournament offering complete player control.

Seems to me like that example wouldn't be popular because of the effort involved. So why do you deserve something you are unwilling to work for?

Why is CCP fixing nullsec sov, they could decide not to blob and organize themselves to have no structure bashing, why CCP fixed the Industry UI, people should just deal with a terrible UI.

Why CCP should fix POS management, yes POS management isn't fun but you aren't supposed to have fun in eve.

Seems to me like that example wouldn't be popular because of the effort involved. So why do you deserve something you are unwilling to work for?