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JP Dante
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.12.06 12:03:49 -
[2011] - Quote
Damn, I was hoping it would at least be comparable in hp's to the Freighters, Its not even half the hp... this is just big juicy gank target. Seeking out the Bowheads will become the new low risk roulette game of eve... will you get a rigged shop? or a goat! Step and try your luck, gank a Bowhead near you today!
So it states base hp and bonuses based on feedback... my question then is who's? certainly not the players as this forum clearly indicates. |
Masao Kurata
Z List
171
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Posted - 2014.12.06 15:14:04 -
[2012] - Quote
ARGH! I am sick of idiots of who can't grasp the difference between raw HP and fitted EHP. |
Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
66
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Posted - 2014.12.06 17:06:38 -
[2013] - Quote
James Baboli wrote:
Sigamp loki with quad web takes it <3s to get into warp as is.
Hyena - 3 webs...it warps the instant the frigate locks it. I never move any of my cap ships without it. |
Sturmwolke
595
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Posted - 2014.12.06 18:22:42 -
[2014] - Quote
Yume Ookami wrote:Random McNally wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Acquisition will work the same as freighters - there will be a NPC seeded BPO (with the same distribution as the Orca), it will be a bit cheaper than a freighter BPO, the Bowhead build materials will also be similar to other Freighters but will be be a bit lower. I would expect eventual market price to be 100 or 200 mil lower than other freighters.
It will use capital rigs.
I think it's been said other places but as far as loot - we hope to get a change ready in time for Rhea that will make SMA loot work the same as CHAs where the contents will be inside the wreck on ship death, it's still not totally clear if that will happen in time but it would be in the following release if not.
I'm not convinced about the EHP needing to be higher but I'll bring this to the rest of the team and get back to you. Hey Rise, for those of us with CRS (Cannot Remember S***), does this mean Bowhead bpo will be available only in ORE space? (sincerely apologize if this has been mentioned earlier) i have not seen it mentioned earlier, and i hope that we can find these in more places than just 'ORE space' or better yet have an ORE station in highsec that will have them.
" there will be a NPC seeded BPO (with the same distribution as the Orca)" - if this is still correct, then the BPO would be available in highsec like the Orca.
Look for Deep Core Mining Inc. stations.
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Zyxi Zhou-Laun
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.12.06 22:13:44 -
[2015] - Quote
Masao Kurata wrote:ARGH! I am sick of idiots of who can't grasp the difference between raw HP and fitted EHP.
well, I think I have some idea, but why don't YOU educate us?
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Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
572
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Posted - 2014.12.07 15:13:45 -
[2016] - Quote
Up the armor amount to equal the shield amount.
That way a pilot in a proper fleet with BOTH shield and armor boosts, along with some decent implants could at least keep the gankers guessing.
As it is now, you'd almost think it was designed to give a new fat target for the gankers.
Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
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marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
58
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Posted - 2014.12.07 19:13:22 -
[2017] - Quote
Utterly Pitiful idea.
3 BS at maxed skills....really???.
Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.
Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth. |
Zyxi Zhou-Laun
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:28:00 -
[2018] - Quote
marly cortez wrote:Utterly Pitiful idea.
3 BS at maxed skills....really???.
Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.
Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth.
why should they make a ship which has an obvious use from the start?
And why put a sign on it? The entire ship is a gank target.
hello wall... I didn't see you standing there.
Did I hurt cha? Boy, I sure did hit you square.
Now one of us is plastered. I'll let you guess just who.
Just imagine, bumping into you.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
4
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:31:47 -
[2019] - Quote
marly cortez wrote:Utterly Pitiful idea.
3 BS at maxed skills....really???.
Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.
Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth.
hmm it would seem that we have a nullsec'er here that does not understand that this was intended for highsec |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1754
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:38:07 -
[2020] - Quote
marly cortez wrote:Utterly Pitiful idea.
3 BS at maxed skills....really???.
Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.
Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth.
Work out how many capitals it would be able to carry at that volume.
The only way to carry large numbers of bs without breaking things is going away from a volume based metric and to a strict number limit of each class. Which reduces the versatility of the ship. As you also wouldn't. Be able to carry lots of smaller ships.
Though it does remove the issue of carrying other capitals. |
Sgt Ocker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:30:49 -
[2021] - Quote
Yume Ookami wrote:marly cortez wrote:Utterly Pitiful idea.
3 BS at maxed skills....really???.
Expand the SMA to be able to carry half a fleets worth of BS and then maybe it's worth the effort of training skills and actually buying one for a Corp, other than that Gankers would have more fun holding a BS pilot to ransom and having him eject.
Corps once had a perfectly good ship transport, they were called 'Carriers', but someone decided these had to be nerfed to the point they became useless for that task so now there relegated to PoS repping and defense, Seems CCP's blind desperation has finally come to this, Spending weeks designing and specifying an utterly useless ship design, might as well dress it with a shoot here sign for all it's worth. hmm it would seem that we have a nullsec'er here that does not understand that this was intended for highsec
I will glady give odds there are more of them in nulsec than are ever seen in highsec.
It is perfectly suited to modern nulsec cruiser fleet logistics.
People are fixated on 3 battleships - Why when it is far better suited to hauling around a bunch of cruisers?
It seems the Bowhead is designed to sit 1 jump out from the fight for reshipping fleet members and get them back into the fight quickly.
For highsec incursion runners to use them, you will need at least a 3 or 4 man fleet to escort 3 battleships in a bowhead from 1 incursion to the next, or risk losing them to gankers. Send war to the bowhead pilots corp or alliance and the risk grows, requiring even more in fleet to move safely.
Sort of defeats the purpose of moving 4 ships together when you need that many pilots to safely move them.
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
799
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:18:02 -
[2022] - Quote
JP Dante wrote:Damn, I was hoping it would at least be comparable in hp's to the Freighters, Its not even half the hp... this is just big juicy gank target.
Long story short: if we are talking highsec (and we probably are, considering your particular considerations with gankers and EHP), then this thing has about 430k EHP while still having ability to fit MWD and thus have 11 sec align time. This is way better than what freighters have. |
FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
111
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:42:29 -
[2023] - Quote
i have fiddled with some fits and with even minor shiny (if you consider the cost of the hull and the stuff it'll be moving...) you can get a travel fit up to 364k ehp against void, or 500k with heat...
If you actually rig for tank that goes up to more in the area of 800+k overheated against ganks Thats not to far south of where my triage carrier lives in EHP wise... And since i'll be webbing mine into warp with an ashimmu (why are those so cheap anyways??) i suspect it'll be fairly straight forward to move it through niarja or uedama... |
NoLife NoFriends StillPosting
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2014.12.09 03:28:22 -
[2024] - Quote
Would you please return the Rattlesnake to its former iteration. Versatility was its strength and it was never consider OP. Nobody trained for it for specialized high-dps.
You have destroyed a playstyle that utilized torpedoes passive-shield tanking and the optimal medium/light drones.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3510
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Posted - 2014.12.09 04:32:23 -
[2025] - Quote
Removed a spam post.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
4
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Posted - 2014.12.09 04:57:08 -
[2026] - Quote
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a spam post.
please remove more, i think there are a few pages worth |
Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Vengeance
Team Amarrica
466
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Posted - 2014.12.09 05:02:16 -
[2027] - Quote
Yume Ookami wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Removed a spam post. please remove more, i think there are a few pages worth
no kidding. the last 8 posts on this page are about HP or someshit of this ship that is completely irrelevant tbh.
what really matters is
A does it have a jump drive? nope
B how much is it going to cost?
so with no jump drive this thing will largely be a ship that belongs in your hanger for bragging rights.
Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
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Arcomius
InterSpace Security
0
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:35:08 -
[2028] - Quote
Hello there,
EvE client patched.. new GUI is nice but.. no Bowhead Blueprint on any market 
have you any ideas where can I found one of them ?
thank a lot |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
14142
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:06:09 -
[2029] - Quote
Arcomius wrote:Hello there, EvE client patched.. new GUI is nice but.. no Bowhead Blueprint on any market have you any ideas where can I found one of them ? thank a lot
Same place you get the orca from.
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Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
4
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:09:32 -
[2030] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Arcomius wrote:Hello there, EvE client patched.. new GUI is nice but.. no Bowhead Blueprint on any market have you any ideas where can I found one of them ? thank a lot Same place you get the orca from.
im at a place to get an orca and i dont see any
aparently CCP missed some stations |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
14142
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:21:56 -
[2031] - Quote
Citidel it seems.
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Azahar Ortenegro
Astromechanica Maxima
Astromechanica Federatis
26
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:23:00 -
[2032] - Quote
No NPC orders in Citadel. |
Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
5
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:26:36 -
[2033] - Quote
also i still find it interesting that the BPO and the ship indy tab say different things for build requirements on the main server |
Yume Ookami
Cognitive Disonance
5
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:29:06 -
[2034] - Quote
Azahar Ortenegro wrote:No NPC orders in Citadel.
was in a Citadel station that sold orca and no NPC orders for the 3 stations that should have had them |
Random McNally
Isogen 5
86488
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:31:49 -
[2035] - Quote
So, basically ORE space.
So much for availability similar to an Orca.
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Locke Deathroe
Clan 86
Antesignani Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.12.09 12:48:53 -
[2036] - Quote
CCP Rise wrote:Acquisition will work the same as freighters - there will be a NPC seeded BPO (with the same distribution as the Orca), it will be a bit cheaper than a freighter BPO, the Bowhead build materials will also be similar to other Freighters but will be be a bit lower. I would expect eventual market price to be 100 or 200 mil lower than other freighters.
It will use capital rigs.
I think it's been said other places but as far as loot - we hope to get a change ready in time for Rhea that will make SMA loot work the same as CHAs where the contents will be inside the wreck on ship death, it's still not totally clear if that will happen in time but it would be in the following release if not.
I'm not convinced about the EHP needing to be higher but I'll bring this to the rest of the team and get back to you.
Given it seems a lot of us actually read what CCP Rise said here... and are sitting in the stations that have Orca BPO's and see zero Bowhead BPO's yet a TON of them are already posted for sale in Jita makes me think CCP Devs have cheated yet again and told "select" people where the damn BPO's were seeded.
Sick and tired of Dev hacks and insider information being passed to the big boys. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
14143
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Posted - 2014.12.09 13:36:27 -
[2037] - Quote
Locke Deathroe wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Acquisition will work the same as freighters - there will be a NPC seeded BPO (with the same distribution as the Orca), it will be a bit cheaper than a freighter BPO, the Bowhead build materials will also be similar to other Freighters but will be be a bit lower. I would expect eventual market price to be 100 or 200 mil lower than other freighters.
It will use capital rigs.
I think it's been said other places but as far as loot - we hope to get a change ready in time for Rhea that will make SMA loot work the same as CHAs where the contents will be inside the wreck on ship death, it's still not totally clear if that will happen in time but it would be in the following release if not.
I'm not convinced about the EHP needing to be higher but I'll bring this to the rest of the team and get back to you. Given it seems a lot of us actually read what CCP Rise said here... and are sitting in the stations that have Orca BPO's and see zero Bowhead BPO's yet a TON of them are already posted for sale in Jita makes me think CCP Devs have cheated yet again and told "select" people where the damn BPO's were seeded. Sick and tired of Dev hacks and insider information being passed to the big boys.
Or said people went out and hunted them down.
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Hoyy Lawson
ARES Unlimited
4
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:03:43 -
[2038] - Quote
You could get it in 4C-B7X and in NM-OEA like Retriever and Covetor BPOs.
But pay attention, stations are camped and it's nullsec.  |
Locke Deathroe
Clan 86
Antesignani Alliance
16
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:07:43 -
[2039] - Quote
Hoyy Lawson wrote:You could get it in 4C-B7X and in NM-OEA like Retriever and Covetor BPOs. But pay attention, stations are camped and it's nullsec.
Thanks mate, already been there and back again. Just wish I had known that's where it was going to be in the first place. |
Hoyy Lawson
ARES Unlimited
5
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Posted - 2014.12.09 17:11:03 -
[2040] - Quote
Yeah, had the same problem. Waiting in Citadel for the patch, see nothing there and burned to Outer Ring. |
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