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Danixex Gosu Yumping Amok Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2016.05.24 15:56:04 - [2371] - Quote whats wrong with isk as a reward? This money earned could be put towards skill injecotrs, BPOs, or whatever the hell else they wish to buy.
Marcus Tedric Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation 74	Posted - 2016.05.24 16:11:12 - [2372] - Quote Danixex Gosu wrote: whats wrong with isk as a reward? This money earned could be put towards skill injecotrs, BPOs, or whatever the hell else they wish to buy. Because there's far too much isk coming in already. Don't soil your panties, you guys made a good point, we'll look at the numbers again. - CCP Ytterbium
Danixex Gosu Yumping Amok Apocalypse Now. 0	Posted - 2016.05.24 16:14:32 - [2373] - Quote not for the noobs that this is supposed to help, from what i heard. this was a response to the response right above mine, forgot the quote....
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2844	Posted - 2016.05.24 16:43:52 - [2374] - Quote Danixex Gosu wrote: not for the noobs that this is supposed to help, from what i heard. this was a response to the response right above mine, forgot the quote.... It's not targeted at noobs but at the entire player base.
Paul-Dieter Breitner University of Tennen 0	Posted - 2016.05.24 17:12:30 - [2375] - Quote This is truely the worst update i have ever seen on eve. Its farmville online now. So the basic daily work for me world be killing one rat per alt on my 3 accounts. Otherwise ill miss 300k SP per month, which is roughly 7-8 skill injectors for 9 alts. Are you kidding me? Well, i should move all my alts back to hs then, to do daily lvl 1 combat missions. Really, this how eve is supposed to be played now? i hate it.
Leeham Sum Corp. I N G L O R I O U S 1	Posted - 2016.05.24 17:26:15 - [2376] - Quote Going to just voice my dislike of this plan, bit late though since it's now live. While the idea of more skillpoints is good, there is no sense of earning it here. All that has been introduced is a chore. EVERYONE, when they launch eve will log into each toon 1-by-1 to kill a belt rat then log into their main. It takes time away from actually playing the game and will just get annoying for everyone and you cannot stop because the though of turning down free skillpoints is ludicrous
AlStorm Prime Hotline K162 The Clown Car 2	Posted - 2016.05.24 17:47:07 - [2377] - Quote - another 10k SP for participating in 1 billion worth kill mail? Please do not take it literally, just as a concept.
Leeham Sum Corp. I N G L O R I O U S 1	Posted - 2016.05.24 17:53:00 - [2378] - Quote Leeham wrote: Going to just voice my dislike of this plan, bit late though since it's now live. While the idea of more skillpoints is good, there is no sense of earning it here. All that has been introduced is a chore. EVERYONE, when they launch eve will log into each toon 1-by-1 to kill a belt rat then log into their main. It takes time away from actually playing the game and will just get annoying for everyone and you cannot stop because the though of turning down free skillpoints is ludicrous Going to correct myself here. After checking ingame I can confirm this feature is per account, not per character. Still not keen on it, as this increases the base SP yield of everyone and punishes those who have unsubbed or have multiple accounts. Kind of wondering if this change was made to punish them.
Jessika Lee Perkone Caldari State 18	Posted - 2016.05.24 18:09:37 - [2379] - Quote Indeed that's looks strange. EVE - the only hardcore game we still have. I can understand extra SP given for some valuable action in the game: 15 signatures scanned / 3 missions finished / first capsuleer ship killed / etc. but not over the first kill of _any_ NPC daily. It costs about 1 minute mostly, LOL. Or just provide it at first character login. P.S. How about reward over first line typed in chat daily?
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3526	Posted - 2016.05.24 18:32:52 - [2380] - Quote is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I am not playing this game for daily rewards, i don't want to contribute to the success metric of that feature. If i kill a rat i would have killed it with or without this daily mission. Please add a option to opt out just like with the opportunities, thanks. how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Barduck Martins Hell Lead Co. Spartan Republic 1	Posted - 2016.05.24 18:43:19 - [2381] - Quote Positive feedback from a player that plays on a daily basis. Guess the "rich" dont like the idea to have more "rich" people.
Erebus 'TheChin' Sundance Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2016.05.24 19:57:23 - [2382] - Quote Any chance of the recurring opportunities notification disappearing once completed, and reappearing when the timer expires? I am referring to the area top left, under the route/ current solar system information. The little shield with a clock bit.
Gardav Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 29	Posted - 2016.05.24 19:58:47 - [2383] - Quote My reply here is not an argument against Recurring Opportunities or in support of them. My reply here is a request to have an option in either the notification UI itself, or in the Options panel, be added so I can turn of the viewing off the RO notification completely. I have searched and dug and found no way to turn off the RO notification and remove it from my screen. "TheChin" suggests the notification turn off until the next day, I am suggesting, asking for, the ability to turn it off completely like how we can remove the opportunity notifications from our UI. So CCP, please add the option to turn off the notification for Recurring Opportunities? Thanks. (if there is a way to turn these off can someone please enlighten me? thanks)
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 592	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:01:53 - [2384] - Quote Gives us an option to remove dailies icon. I don't care for them, I don't want to be bombarded with "Thrill of the hunt" message every time I dock up. I'm thrilled how bad it is implemented. Now we will have content that will bombard us until we done it? I am the 85%
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4871	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:08:29 - [2385] - Quote ArchAngael wrote: I'm strongly opposed to the system as described. Anyone who played WoW will know that if something is perceived valuable enough, even if technically optional, it will seem mandatory because otherwise you are leaving something valuable on the table. Therefore people will feel obligated to log on EVERY character on EVERY account and shoot a belt rat frigate every day, which is mind-numbingly terrible and a giant waste of time. For people who only have an hour or so per day to play, that'll become the entire game. Which since it sucks, will lead them to the conclusion that the game sucks, and hence fewer people in space overall. Even for those who have more time, spending their first hour doing their dailies will make it feel like a job rather than looking forward to PvPing/building/mining/whatever they actually like to do. Also, this really is SP ginned up from nowhere, which is against the spirit of Eve. So 6 pages in I see lots of people are failing to grasp the concept of opportunity cost. And all this talk about being forced to log in. "The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
Manic Velocity Emergent Dynamics 198	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:20:13 - [2386] - Quote Bienator II wrote: is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I am not playing this game for daily rewards, i don't want to contribute to the success metric of that feature. If i kill a rat i would have killed it with or without this daily mission. Please add a option to opt out just like with the opportunities, thanks. I second this. Please give us the ability to opt-out. I don't want to inadvertently contribute to the metrics gathered from this, and I really don't want the UI reminding me to complete a task every day. @manicvelocity
sero Hita Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 167	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:27:08 - [2387] - Quote I would prefer if the timer was reset for everyone once a day at the same time. This 22 hour timer means you are kinda locked into logging in at the same time of the day you if want to do these recurring opportunities (I am aware you can potentially slide the time two hours backwards everyday so it fits you better, but it is still restricted). As the goal is more people logging in, I see no reason not to let people decide themselves when in a given day they want to be on. "I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Kaybella Hakaari State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2016.05.24 20:49:33 - [2388] - Quote Manic Velocity wrote: Bienator II wrote: is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I am not playing this game for daily rewards, i don't want to contribute to the success metric of that feature. If i kill a rat i would have killed it with or without this daily mission. Please add a option to opt out just like with the opportunities, thanks. I second this. Please give us the ability to opt-out. I don't want to inadvertently contribute to the metrics gathered from this, and I really don't want the UI reminding me to complete a task every day. There are some ways I can think of to do this: Don't log in. See if you can convince everyone you play with not to. You and your friends are the content. Doing anything at all will not convince anyone the feature is bad. Maybe there's something in your Steam library you've been meaning to play? Shoot the Jita 4-4 monument. Bring friends and alts, fleet up. Shut down a trade hub, preferably Jita. Fleet up, and shoot anything on the undock which isn't purple. Don't forget to have everyone copypaste spam "Dailies are terribad" in chat. If you haven't already cancelled your subscription, you can always do that and leave some variation of "Shouldn't have put any dailes in, those were the reason I left [game]" as the reason in the text box. Especially do not plex.
Circumstantial Evidence 317	Posted - 2016.05.24 21:18:56 - [2389] - Quote Bienator II wrote: is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I don't see them coding a UI checkbox to accommodate feature protesters, that's like... planning for failure. They've made it clear that this is merely the first attempt, and a simple implementation of the feature. (Tippia argued for even simpler: "did you log in today" for 5-10 mins.) So, as I wrote in my previous post here... maybe it's time to give the local NPC pirate factions a break :) Jeremiah Saken wrote: Gives us an option to remove dailies icon. I don't care for them, I don't want to be bombarded with "Thrill of the hunt" message... If you click the Recurring Opportunity button in the bar along the top, the "Thrill of the hunt" details won't be shown. Same as for Route and Solar System info. (To my mild annoyance when I forget why I can't see my current route info, lol. Sometimes that button gets clicked accidently.) ArchAngael wrote: ...people will feel obligated to log on EVERY character on EVERY account and shoot a belt rat frigate every day, which is mind-numbingly terrible and a giant waste of time CCP Rise wrote: Thanks to feedback we see that it would improve the experience quite a lot minimize the amount of characters available for this reward so we are going to limit the reward to the first character completing the daily task on each account.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3528	Posted - 2016.05.24 22:26:47 - [2390] - Quote Circumstantial Evidence wrote: Bienator II wrote: is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I don't see them coding a UI checkbox to accommodate feature protesters, that's like... planning for failure. you can disable opportunities, not being able to disable dailies is an inconsistency. And i am not protesting. i only want to be sure to be on the right side of the metric. how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value

Memnon Shepard Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops 28	Posted - 2016.05.24 23:36:12 - [2391] - Quote Thrilling experience hunting SP confirmed. I almost always kept Eve online open in the background while on my home PC to keep up with chat and see if anything exciting was going on. Today I made it a point to log on, complete the daily, and immediately log off. I'll continue to do this as long as I don't have anything specific to do in Eve and the daily system is in place, if only because I'm too much of an addict to ignore free SP but don't want to reward CCP with an improved PCU for this lazy, boring, SP devaluing feature.
Aetran Molou Carbon Thirty-Two Sinful Legion 9	Posted - 2016.05.25 00:23:00 - [2392] - Quote Memnon Shepard wrote: Today I made it a point to log on, complete the daily, and immediately log off. I'll continue to do this as long as I don't have anything specific to do in Eve and the daily system is in place, if only because I'm too much of an addict to ignore free SP but don't want to reward CCP with an improved PCU for this lazy, boring, SP devaluing feature. That's not very good protesting... That's just ruining the game experience for yourself. Suit yourself, I guess.
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 495	Posted - 2016.05.25 01:25:55 - [2393] - Quote l0rd carlos wrote: I was really mad Now I'm confused. Confused over my own feelings. I don't know what to think about it any more. Its alright... just close your eyes... bend over and let it happen. "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." \| zoonr-Korsairs \| QFT !
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1488	Posted - 2016.05.25 01:41:22 - [2394] - Quote are you changing the name of the game to "Space WoW " while you are at it?
helana Tsero Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 497	Posted - 2016.05.25 01:41:54 - [2395] - Quote Please provide a option to remove the icon for dailys that is now permanently fixed to top left of my screen. Sick of each patch adding more UI. eg - first person cam icon... such a used feature that its definitely worth obscuring my view of space for.. NOT - Track icon on selected icon window.... again.. no one uses this extra track feature.. The actual tracking cam and look at cam is much better - cargo hold icon... easily just use [control] [c] or open neo com. - huge citadel icon placed in center of citadel when your targeting it. We already have the regular targeting icon showing its shield/armor level.. don't need this giant ugly icon ruining the beautiful citadel. Eve's space, ships and structures are beautiful. STOP RUINING IT WITH MORE AND MORE UI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to add more icons stick them on the neo com that I can hide or display at my preference. "... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." \| zoonr-Korsairs \| QFT !
Revman Zim Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 280	Posted - 2016.05.25 01:41:54 - [2396] - Quote I understand and like what CCP is trying to do. Back in the old days, capsuleers had to log on daily to put in a skill to train or else lose out on time to advance their character. There was a reward for logging in frequently. It was a reward in increased SP. This reward was valuable to ANY player, regardless of they style of play. Since changing the skill queue in CCP has seen a noticeable difference in the number of people logging in and amount of time logged in. The skill queue change, while lauded by the players as a great improvement, had a negative affect on activity. This is their attempt to put that "reward" for activity back into the game. I fully support that. Arguments can be made about what the reward should be, but the premise of the change is important. This game's content is driven by people being logged in and interacting with the EVE universe. Yes, not everyone shoots things, and I am sure CCP will be open to expanding the activities that will count as a "Reoccurring Opportunity". But this is a GOOD start. And I believe that SP is a good reward as it was in the beginning. It is valuable to everyone and does not screw with the economic model. Well done CCP! This was a well thought out feature, and I hope it has the desired affect.
Lugh Crow-Slave 2622	Posted - 2016.05.25 03:26:27 - [2397] - Quote Revman Zim wrote: I understand and like what CCP is trying to do. Back in the old days, capsuleers had to log on daily to put in a skill to train or else lose out on time to advance their character. There was a reward for logging in frequently. It was a reward in increased SP. This reward was valuable to ANY player, regardless of they i can remember back when i had to set my alarm clock to make sure i didn't miss out on any sp it's not something anyone wanted back. at least with the last skill queue (the thing this is supposedly replacing) i only had to log in at most once a week on my newer toons and only about once a month on my older ones. Quote: P.S. It is easy to sit behind a keyboard and criticize without offering up any alternatives. CCP wants to incentivize participation. Offer a better plan or just shut up. go back to the first few pages of this thread we were giving loads of alternatives we stopped when we saw ccp had no interest in real feedback Citadel worm hole tax
Circumstantial Evidence 318	Posted - 2016.05.25 03:50:29 - [2398] - Quote Bienator II wrote: Circumstantial Evidence wrote: Bienator II wrote: is there a way to opt out of the daily missions? I don't want to give the wrong impression to participate in them while killing a plex or gate rat during a roam. I don't see them coding a UI checkbox to accommodate feature protesters, that's like... planning for failure. you can disable opportunities, not being able to disable dailies is an inconsistency. And i am not protesting. i only want to be sure to be on the right side of the metric. The Opportunities map is part of the tutorial system, aimed at helping new players. It makes sense that after a player is no longer new, that those one-time Opportunities have served their educational purpose, and they should be able to hide UI and notifications. This "recurring opportunity" feature is supposed to apply to, and be of compelling interest - to all players, every day. The word the two features have in common, is perhaps unfortunate. Of course, your point still stands. As implemented, players don't have an "opt out," except to avoid shooting NPC's.
Jeremiah Saken The Fall of Leviathan 596	Posted - 2016.05.25 05:33:55 - [2399] - Quote Circumstantial Evidence wrote: Quote: Gives us an option to remove dailies icon. I don't care for them, I don't want to be bombarded with "Thrill of the hunt" message... If you click the Recurring Opportunity button in the bar along the top, the "Thrill of the hunt" details won't be shown. Same as for Route and Solar System info. (To my mild annoyance when I forget why I can't see my current route info, lol. Sometimes that button gets clicked accidently.) I did that, but when you docking on station message pop again. What is this? "Love us we giving you SP for nothing?", "Did you do your dailiy?", "Do your dailiy!", "It's dailiy or sandbox, choose dailiy", "Why you don't want to do dailiy, we will pop this message until you do". Only my alarm clock is more annoying. I am the 85%
Lavayar Russian SOBR Dream Fleet 288	Posted - 2016.05.25 06:13:32 - [2400] - Quote Jeremiah Saken wrote: Circumstantial Evidence wrote: Quote: Gives us an option to remove dailies icon. I don't care for them, I don't want to be bombarded with "Thrill of the hunt" message... If you click the Recurring Opportunity button in the bar along the top, the "Thrill of the hunt" details won't be shown. Same as for Route and Solar System info. (To my mild annoyance when I forget why I can't see my current route info, lol. Sometimes that button gets clicked accidently.) I did that, but when you docking on station message pop again. What is this? "Love us we giving you SP for nothing?", "Did you do your dailiy?", "Do your dailiy!", "It's dailiy or sandbox, choose dailiy", "Why you don't want to do dailiy, we will pop this message until you do". Only my alarm clock is more annoying. Just do it! We need you for PCU!



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