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Leeluvv
Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marlorn Aeon This thread makes me laugh. Careful what you wish for carebears! 
Next up! NERF L4 mission!
Why do all the idiots think the carebears wished for any of this? I wasn't aware that NPCs nanoing all over the missions was whined about so much....
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maddmaxx III
Caldari Middleton and Mercer LLP Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: maddmaxx III on 12/11/2008 17:06:52 Edited by: maddmaxx III on 12/11/2008 17:05:09
Originally by: Ticondrius ZOMG! Missiles are now a secondary weapon like all the other secondary weapons! OH NOEZ! I need to train turret skillz lyke everyone else! OMGZ!
It's pretty simple and has been said since the first missile nerf in the depths of time: The Caldari primary weapon is NOT missiles. It is Railguns.
To say otherwise is like saying the primary Gallente weapons are drones, where our real main weapon are blasters, and to a lesser extent, missiles/railguns.
So, go train up gunnery skills and learn about guns. They work about as well as missiles do now, but have better ship bonuses available IMO. Just see the Rokh. 
I think what determines your primary weapons are the bonuses that your ship gives to that particular weapon, in the case of caldari, most ships have missile bonuses fella. On a side note, I just finished up with extensive missile training last week, only to find that they get nerfed right after I finish, I now do the same amount of dmg to a BS with cruise missiles as I did with faction heavy missiles, seems silly to me but whatever.
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Verx Interis
Amarr Aurora Security Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:06:00 -
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My Purifier is still fine... I think.
As for other missiles, hell with them. And missionrunners. The economy can survive without the massive injection of stale ISK. --------- Your bad loan management perfectly strikes the stock market, wrecking for -777.68 points. Eve job list |

maddmaxx III
Caldari Middleton and Mercer LLP Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:10:00 -
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I did one mission, only once, they are the most repetitive thing in the game, my funding for pvp is mainly ratting and salvage, now I need to cross train or something, which is something I don't think you should have to do because of a nerf.
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Rylet VanDorn
Q3 HOLDING CORP
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:16:00 -
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The solution to the problem is simple:
QUIT. Don't try to sell your accounts or characters off to someone else to start a new character that won't be woefully gimped. Don't just keep training skills because you have faith that CCP will actually balance things. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT.
People need to start realizing there are games out there that are actually FUN TO PLAY. The dev teams behind them actually give a damn about the game being fun for their subscribers. The dev & GM teams for those games don't abuse GM powers in order to give themselves advantages, and they don't arbitrarily silence people blowing the whistle on these types of activities.
Seriously... if anything, Eve will always be here. The European Fanbois alone will provide them enough revenue to keep the game going. In that effect, Eve Online is basically just a really popular private server with everyone "donating" monthly to support it. My brother has 5 accounts only because he likes to play the market instead of the actual game, so nerfs don't really affect him much. I suspect more than 50% of Eve's subscription count can be account for by people with 2nd accounts.
Whatever the case... if you really don't like it, hit CCP where it hurts: Their subscriber base / Wallet. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. Let the fanbois drink the Kool-aid until they drown in it.
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Donkee Punch
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Marlorn Aeon This thread makes me laugh. Careful what you wish for carebears! 
Next up! NERF L4 mission!
Ummm.... in what thread did Carebears ever whine about Nanoships? Do you even read the forums or just flame post? The whole point to this thread was that missiles as they stand now have been hit rather hard... harder than necessaery IMO.. but that's just the opinion of apparently a minority of us.. both carebear and non-carebear.
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maddmaxx III
Caldari Middleton and Mercer LLP Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rylet VanDorn The solution to the problem is simple:
QUIT. Don't try to sell your accounts or characters off to someone else to start a new character that won't be woefully gimped. Don't just keep training skills because you have faith that CCP will actually balance things. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT.
People need to start realizing there are games out there that are actually FUN TO PLAY. The dev teams behind them actually give a damn about the game being fun for their subscribers. The dev & GM teams for those games don't abuse GM powers in order to give themselves advantages, and they don't arbitrarily silence people blowing the whistle on these types of activities.
Seriously... if anything, Eve will always be here. The European Fanbois alone will provide them enough revenue to keep the game going. In that effect, Eve Online is basically just a really popular private server with everyone "donating" monthly to support it. My brother has 5 accounts only because he likes to play the market instead of the actual game, so nerfs don't really affect him much. I suspect more than 50% of Eve's subscription count can be account for by people with 2nd accounts.
Whatever the case... if you really don't like it, hit CCP where it hurts: Their subscriber base / Wallet. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. Let the fanbois drink the Kool-aid until they drown in it.
This is prolly the route that I will take, having stuff nerfed right after training in that specific area is just very unattractive to me. And Im not talking about not being able to hit frigs with giant missiles, But when It effects my ability to kill npc rats efficiently it in turn affects my ability to fund pvp efficiently.
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Riga Mortiss
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rylet VanDorn The solution to the problem is simple:
QUIT. Don't try to sell your accounts or characters off to someone else to start a new character that won't be woefully gimped. Don't just keep training skills because you have faith that CCP will actually balance things. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT.
People need to start realizing there are games out there that are actually FUN TO PLAY. The dev teams behind them actually give a damn about the game being fun for their subscribers. The dev & GM teams for those games don't abuse GM powers in order to give themselves advantages, and they don't arbitrarily silence people blowing the whistle on these types of activities.
Seriously... if anything, Eve will always be here. The European Fanbois alone will provide them enough revenue to keep the game going. In that effect, Eve Online is basically just a really popular private server with everyone "donating" monthly to support it. My brother has 5 accounts only because he likes to play the market instead of the actual game, so nerfs don't really affect him much. I suspect more than 50% of Eve's subscription count can be account for by people with 2nd accounts.
Whatever the case... if you really don't like it, hit CCP where it hurts: Their subscriber base / Wallet. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. Let the fanbois drink the Kool-aid until they drown in it.
One of the Top Ten best responses so far 
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Rylet VanDorn
Whatever the case... if you really don't like it, hit CCP where it hurts: Their subscriber base / Wallet. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. Let the fanbois drink the Kool-aid until they drown in it.
Awesome, looks like this patch will fix the lag as well.
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Zora
Gallente Concealed Intentions
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:46:00 -
[400]
I'm sorry, I eated them :(
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RedSplat
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:49:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Zora I'm sorry, I eated them :(
Accidentally an entire munitions stockpile
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Voin
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:54:00 -
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To those bravery damn pilot's who think their bloody weapon`s wouldn't be nerfed in a future, my recommend - come down from the sky...
When CCP accomplishing to fuck Caldarians, they will turn over to others...
So be ready to be fucked in near future...
Amen... My E.T.
1. English is not my native language 2. You can have my stuff in a Hell in your next life
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Feriluce
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rylet VanDorn The solution to the problem is simple:
QUIT. Don't try to sell your accounts or characters off to someone else to start a new character that won't be woefully gimped. Don't just keep training skills because you have faith that CCP will actually balance things. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT.
People need to start realizing there are games out there that are actually FUN TO PLAY. The dev teams behind them actually give a damn about the game being fun for their subscribers. The dev & GM teams for those games don't abuse GM powers in order to give themselves advantages, and they don't arbitrarily silence people blowing the whistle on these types of activities.
Seriously... if anything, Eve will always be here. The European Fanbois alone will provide them enough revenue to keep the game going. In that effect, Eve Online is basically just a really popular private server with everyone "donating" monthly to support it. My brother has 5 accounts only because he likes to play the market instead of the actual game, so nerfs don't really affect him much. I suspect more than 50% of Eve's subscription count can be account for by people with 2nd accounts.
Whatever the case... if you really don't like it, hit CCP where it hurts: Their subscriber base / Wallet. Just CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT. Let the fanbois drink the Kool-aid until they drown in it.
Funny how you dont follow your own advice. 
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Heather Drauls
Rabies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rylet VanDorn The European Fanbois alone
It's all our fault. Now, please finish your emoquitrage thingy.
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Taius Pax You are definitely not a good Raven pilot (or one at all) if you stuck an AB on it for missions in the first place. You need all the mids for the shield tank.
If you need all mids on a Raven for tank, then maybe you should increase your skills and/or rethink your fitting. It's certainly not needed.
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Ultrakorne
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:08:00 -
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i am just a noob, and with mi caracal with missile i cannot do quests anymore. lvl 2 quest are umbalanced, i have NO chance. is just frustrating.. i am playing this quest for 6 hours now, and i wear 3x LARGE shield extenders ...
its this normal? what should i do?
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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
OR... i'm not **** stupid and do just fine with a 5 slot tank 
Even a 5 slot tank is probably bit of overkill. The change brings the Caldari in line with other races. As a Minmatar player who shield tanks for pve (Sleipnir, Maelstrom and I've been known to shield tank the tempest too ) I've managed to do every level 4 I've come across with a 4 slot shield tank (XL Booster, Boost amp and 2 inv-fields) we need our other mids for stuff like AB's and tracking computers, glad you guys know what thats like too now.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:38:00 -
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Took my Cerb out ratting for an hour.
Works exactly as it did before as far as I could tell.
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frsd
Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Leeluvv
Originally by: Marlorn Aeon This thread makes me laugh. Careful what you wish for carebears! 
Next up! NERF L4 mission!
Why do all the idiots think the carebears wished for any of this? I wasn't aware that NPCs nanoing all over the missions was whined about so much....
Lee
This.. Carebears never ever whined about nano's..most of them dont even know what a "Nano" is.. blame yourselves for flying something overpowered..if you wouldnt have nano'ed in the first place nothing of this would have happened. But yeah, some people just cant accept that they sometimes have to lose, so they find something that gives them massive advantages at the costs of players who actually want to have fun PvP'ing and not always getting ganked. And the only counter to nano's was nano'ing... i never knew that Energy Neutrilizars and Webs did damage 
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ultrakorne i am just a noob, and with mi caracal with missile i cannot do quests anymore. lvl 2 quest are umbalanced, i have NO chance. is just frustrating.. i am playing this quest for 6 hours now, and i wear 3x LARGE shield extenders ...
its this normal? what should i do?
Train target navigation prediction and guided missile precision.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari Product Number 3
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Ultrakorne i am just a noob, and with mi caracal with missile i cannot do quests anymore. lvl 2 quest are umbalanced, i have NO chance. is just frustrating.. i am playing this quest for 6 hours now, and i wear 3x LARGE shield extenders ...
its this normal? what should i do?
Train target navigation prediction and guided missile precision.
Effects are nominal, unfortunately. I had trained these to counter nanos pre-ccp-f-up, and the difference was not noticeable, and it certainly doesn't help much now.
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Disteeler
Moritso Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:47:00 -
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My God, It's full of emoragequits!
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frsd
Caldari Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:48:00 -
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Or maybe CCP just wanted to reduce the playerbase so that the people who stay have more fun 
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Malcanis
RuffRyders Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Khamal Jolstien
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Ultrakorne i am just a noob, and with mi caracal with missile i cannot do quests anymore. lvl 2 quest are umbalanced, i have NO chance. is just frustrating.. i am playing this quest for 6 hours now, and i wear 3x LARGE shield extenders ...
its this normal? what should i do?
Train target navigation prediction and guided missile precision.
Effects are nominal, unfortunately. I had trained these to counter nanos pre-ccp-f-up, and the difference was not noticeable, and it certainly doesn't help much now.
They should work well enough vs rats.
Alternatively, he should fit assault launchers on his caracal.
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Circle
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Posted - 2008.11.12 18:58:00 -
[415]
I dont notice any changes, maybe im to newb to notice yet
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Art of War Exalted.
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Posted - 2008.11.12 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Laechyd Eldgorn on 12/11/2008 19:18:18 Answering before reading 9 pages.
Anyway. For what I've tested they did nerf BS sized missiles too much at least. I don't give a crap about missioning, but when apparently you can speed tank torpedoes with a bs it's a bit too much. :P
Also everyone who posted before me is a carebear.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2008.11.12 19:22:00 -
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There exist a module called 'Target Painter'.... It exist in drone form too....
Improvise! Adapt! Overcome!
(I make my PvP money in L4 missions flying a Golem)
Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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zombeee
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: zombeee on 12/11/2008 20:17:33 I did a crappy lvl4 full of frigs and cruisers yesterday to test it. I have a raven with meta 3 launchers, level 3 to all missile skills, but good T2 drones. It took a while but the drones did their job. If I wanted to go faster I would have fitted a target painter, or brought a drake.
It's really not that bad, the Raven is just not a solo owning machine in all PvE situations.
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Opertone
Caldari SIEGE. United Legion
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Posted - 2008.11.12 20:46:00 -
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the surplus of ravens will last for decades! most produced ship in game, no demand at all... imagine the situation, the will become the relic weapon of the pre Quantum age.
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viuva
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Posted - 2008.11.12 21:13:00 -
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Someone can tell me why i choose caldari ??... i forget ... oh w8... i remember because pvp 
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