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Grath Telkin Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 04:22:00 - [1471] Originally by: Zeke Mobius Closer to 1500 replies and a whole clip of views and yet..... Silence from Iceland.... Will they blame it on the volcano? Update at 11! I know facts and the truth shouldn't really be brought into this thread (we've come so far without it), but for those keeping score, CCP have commented in this thread yo.
Criegor Sniggerdly	Posted - 2010.04.24 04:53:00 - [1472] Originally by: Bad Kroxa You demand evidence, but where is the proof that all Russian macro-miners? You damage control is poor. Silly goose, everyone knows russians = macros.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:14:00 - [1473] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia I think we should ban everyone. Everyone in this thread too. E v e r y o n e Considering every single forum troll and his alt army are in this thread that would mean that noone would be left to poast on the forums. Hrmm, there is a certain appeal to this. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:15:00 - [1474] Edited by: Ranka Mei on 24/04/2010 05:15:43 Originally by: Bad Kroxa Originally by: Ranka Mei Well, it would appear we agree at least on this. :) I'm sure they milk this thread for the honey-pot that it is; and if, along with the prinical culprits, a few hundred macro-miners go down as well, you won't find me shedding any tears over it, either. You demand evidence, but where is the proof that all Russian macro-miners? You damage control is poor. I wasn't the one demanding: I'm already convinced. :) You're barking up the wrong tree. As for all Russians being macro-miners, who said that? Certainly wasn't me, either. I never even mentioned 'Russian' (see above). I was just saying that when CCP does its cleanup and happens to sweep a few hundred macro-miners off the map as well, as part of said operation, you won't see me lose any tears over it either, is all. -- Gorgeous, delicious, deculture!
Bad Kroxa Amarr Russian SOBR SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:16:00 - [1475] Originally by: Criegor Silly goose, everyone knows russians = macros. Silly monkey, everyone now knows that the PL and macaque = cheaters! Good luck!
Shade Millith Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:18:00 - [1476] I just find it amusing the amount of PL denile about it a non-local exploit existing, then video on the OP of it being done appears. Nice job on bring it to light OP ------------------------
Malaclypse Muscaria	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:19:00 - [1477] burps oops, excuse my french.
Bad Kroxa Amarr Russian SOBR SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:28:00 - [1478] Originally by: Romale Interestingly enough OUR method of staying out of local only works if the other player is using a cyrillic client Wait, is not an exploit? Why not use other players for your alliance? Why not tell CCP about exploits? This is a violation of the EULA, is not it? Oh wait, Judge Dredd detected!!!
Thaylon Sen Tetra-Pac	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:29:00 - [1479] I have a pitch fork, and burning torch. Where do I sign up for the lynch mob?
Tonto Auri Vhero' Multipurpose Corp	Posted - 2010.04.24 05:52:00 - [1480] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: Zeke Mobius Closer to 1500 replies and a whole clip of views and yet..... Silence from Iceland.... Will they blame it on the volcano? Update at 11! I know facts and the truth shouldn't really be brought into this thread (we've come so far without it), but for those keeping score, CCP have commented in this thread yo. \o/ yau we got to the bottom of it! PL DC surrendered! -- Thanks CCP for cu

Ded MATAP	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:07:00 - [1481] The more PL DC deny abuse of exploit, the more ppl belive that they really giulty. Nice work! No one can damage your reputation better.
lookatzebirdie	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:17:00 - [1482] Originally by: Romale Edited by: Romale on 23/04/2010 22:34:31 Edited by: Romale on 23/04/2010 22:33:34 Originally by: POKETMACTEP Originally by: Boomershoot I Wonder if they even bother making a non-cyrillic version now. Originally by: Romale its funny you consider the pl trolling racist when its pretty clear that the ones being racist here is the russian community from eve-ru (the ones posting in the monkey thread anyway) Can you point to One, just, ONE, bot, that have russian (well, Cyrillic interface)? I lame with google, but can found 10+ english/latin bot macro, and fail to find "russian" one. Look like most of the bots used by ? speaking users. Who is "trolling racist" here, without any ground? P.S. sorry, i am wrong, racism and troll do not need any ground. nope, but i read the original thread where the guy on eve-ru admitted he was botting. In my comments anyway i stopped calling russians botters russian botters, as i felt that was an unfair depiction of russian people, i know plenty of russians who are great American Citizens and deserve to be proud of their russian heritage. So my understanding of how the russian botting community works is their implementation of communism on eve where some poor bastards slave away botting isk all day and through a high tax rate they pay for others to buy ships and pvp. Pretty typical communism exploiting the workers really. As such i felt bolsheviks was the best term to describe the community of slavic people who automatically jumped to the aid of a guy who admitting botting, believing his word when he provided no proof and onslaught the eve-online community with its propaganda and lies. All because you felt a russian was being wronged. you did it based on race, no other reason. you wouldn't of done the same for a native french speaker or native german speaker. Infact the way you have treated monkeysphere honestly reminds of the histories of the **'s painting on jewish businesses based on race. In this case its not that monkeysphere is jewish, its that he's not russian. Just my opinion anyway I don't recall any of the russian dudes bringing monkeysphere's nationality into this at all, only their accusations about his actions. Whether they are fair or not, it is certainly not based on race. Witch hunt ? maybe. Racist witch hunt ? Not even anywhere close. I do however remember YOU generalizing Russians as botters and generalizing Russians as bolsheviks, you HAVE brought nationality into this and while I wouldn't call it racist, it is at least xenophobic and bigoted. As for trying to deflect from this by turn the tables and accuse the Russian crowd of racism by comparing their accusations of monkey to a NA (german facists) ZI witch hunt of the Jews ? Are you **ing mad ? Apart from being in incredibly bad taste and hideously offensive, the comment shows you generalizing about the Russians ONCE AGAIN as you claim to know they all hate monkeysphere because he is not Russian. You really need help mate, can you actually talk about our fellow Russian Eve players without making an offensive generalization ?
Neo Gabriel Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:29:00 - [1483] I can't wait for the BANHAMMER to fall so I can start collecting all these tears. They will be delicious tears.
Jeremey Glittering Dust	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:33:00 - [1484] Originally by: Romale As such i felt bolsheviks was the best term to describe the community of slavic people who automatically jumped to the aid of a guy who admitting botting, believing his word when he provided no proof and onslaught the eve-online community with its propaganda and lies. All because you felt a russian was being wronged. you did it based on race, no other reason. you wouldn't of done the same for a native french speaker or native german speaker. Infact the way you have treated monkeysphere honestly reminds of the histories of the ****'s painting on jewish businesses based on race. In this case its not that monkeysphere is jewish, its that he's not russian. It was just a warning - the monkey in fact is escaped with slight shock. Don't mess with russian faschimacrofarmers - we have long hands. By the way, how's your iskie alt corp living? No problems recently?
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:41:00 - [1485] Originally by: Jeremey It was just a warning - the monkey in fact is escaped with slight shock. Don't mess with russian faschimacrofarmers - we have long hands. By the way, how's your iskie alt corp living? No problems recently? Remember me to drop the hammer on russians from now on, they want to be treated as a race, they'll be treated as a race from now on. Just sayin'
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:48:00 - [1486] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha How can them be "REGULAR" players if they don't do the most basic 101 of using a directional scanner? And yet use ships that have NO chance to escape, that is ships where using the directional scanner is vital? Are you really this dense? Is this how YOU tell whether someone is at the keyboard versus botting? No wonder you're accusing all against this exploit "botters" . But most likely you're just trolling. Funny thing is you consider T3s cheating, but an actual cheat using exploits by Pandemic Legion, to you, well, ratters deserve to be cheated on if they're not paying attention to local. If not paying attention to local is so critical to survival then why would you need a cheat to kill a player at the keyboard? . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:51:00 - [1487] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha How can them be "REGULAR" players if they don't do the most basic 101 of using a directional scanner? And yet use ships that have NO chance to escape, that is ships where using the directional scanner is vital? Are you really this dense? Is this how YOU tell whether someone is at the keyboard versus botting? No wonder you're accusing all against this exploit "botters" . But most likely you're just trolling. Funny thing is you consider T3s cheating, but an actual cheat using exploits by Pandemic Legion, to you, well, ratters deserve to be cheated on if they're not paying attention to local. If not paying attention to local is so critical to survival then why would you need a cheat to kill a player at the keyboard? . CTRL+QQ Is an exploit too based on how the mechanics work and on your view on the subject. But CCP doesn't seem as much as interested in it. The local has to go, what do you say MatrixSkye?
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:54:00 - [1488] Originally by: Lady Karma Please post those facts, I would like to see any exploiter removed from the game. Once CCP has layeth down the smackbans, you'll be in the Assembly Hall begging CCP to unban Pandemic Legion cheaters. Mark my words. I think you've already proven your loyalties unquestionably lie with Pandemic Legion, for whatever reasons. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 06:56:00 - [1489] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Lady Karma Please post those facts, I would like to see any exploiter removed from the game. Once CCP has layeth down the smackbans, you'll be in the Assembly Hall begging CCP to unban Pandemic Legion cheaters. Mark my words. I think you've already proven your loyalties unquestionably lie with Pandemic Legion, for whatever reasons. [lamegreen]> implying all PL Characters are cheaters[/lamegreen]
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:04:00 - [1490] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 24/04/2010 07:05:46 Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Lady Karma Please post those facts, I would like to see any exploiter removed from the game. Once CCP has layeth down the smackbans, you'll be in the Assembly Hall begging CCP to unban Pandemic Legion cheaters. Mark my words. I think you've already proven your loyalties unquestionably lie with Pandemic Legion, for whatever reasons. [lamegreen]> implying all PL Characters are cheaters[/lamegreen] I highlighted the part you failed to understand. Oh, and: Originally by: Boomershoot CTRL+QQ Is an exploit too based on how the mechanics work and on your view on the subject. But CCP doesn't seem as much as interested in it. The local has to go, what do you say MatrixSkye? And that justifies the use of another exploit? I think local should stay. I also think infnipoint HICs are overpowered, but you know what I am NOT doing? Creating an exploit to counter them and blaming CCP's "inability" to fix the things that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE. That's not how things work. Does this compute? Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!

Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:10:00 - [1491] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 And that justifies the use of another exploit? I think local should stay. I also think infnipoint HICs are overpowered, but you know what I am NOT doing? Creating an exploit to counter them and blaming CCP's "inability" to fix the things that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE. That's not how things work. Does this compute? Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win?
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:14:00 - [1492] Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:16:00 - [1493] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. The fix for local problem without the eradication of this intel channel will affect all players, too. And i don't see people ranting of no-local in WH either.
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:19:00 - [1494] It doesn't take a genuis to figure out that he knows what he is doing is clearly an exploit. Just look at the name of one of the chars. he is using lol internets. Poking fun at the fact that he is manupulating his connection? Now, I have no technical knowledge on how to delay the relay. But, clearly it can, is and was being done. CCP should strip all his assests that come back to any and all chars. for his ip address. Ban all accounts and reimburse all the players that were a victim of his crime. Yes, that's correct I said CRIME. If I use RL cash to purchase a plex. Sell that plex to purchase ships, mods, etc. Then some *sshole uses an exploit or hack to destroy the items that I purchased with CASH and takes those items. It is THIEF and WILL BE DEALT WITH.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:21:00 - [1495] Originally by: Psychotic Maniac Just look at the name of one of the chars.
Bargnar Amarr	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:22:00 - [1496] 01/10 for :effort:
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:22:00 - [1497] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. The fix for local problem without the eradication of this intel channel will affect all players, too. And i don't see people ranting of no-local in WH either. Too bad right now the ones with the upper hand are the PL cheaters and anyone else that is sharing this exploit. I'll tell you what, let EVERYONE use this exploit and at least we're now all on even grounds. Stop excusing the use of this exploit like it's the mighty solution to a problem you personally don't like. If you don't like local, then use normal means to get rid of it (petition, garner support, etc). DO NOT create an exploit and justify its use because there's something in-game you personally don't like. If people had your mentality they'd create exploits for everything they didn't like about the game and it'd be perfectly reasonable to do so. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Neo Gabriel Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:22:00 - [1498] Its because in WH space, everyone knows you only show in local if talk in local. People are mad at this because everyone knows you show up in local in k-space, or so we thought. Imagine, someone discovered an exploit where they could see everyone in WH space who is online, and someone finds out. Imagine all the tears of the gankers and the wh citizens. Or worse, imagine an exploit where you can warp to anyone in system who is claoked, even when they are not in your fleet! Imagine the rage! Now, imagine someone found an exploit where they can enter a local system and not show up in local! OMG, ***! Its not the idea of having a delayed local or no local in nullspace that **es people off, its the fact that someone has an unfair advantage that has been used to farm players and bots for 2 years and no one has done anything to stop it until now.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:26:00 - [1499] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Originally by: Boomershoot Ctrl+QQ can escape HIC's Infinipoint. Your point on how this is not an exploit, then? With local gone you solve a great chunk of bot problems, and it will also fix the current "Oh Exploitable" Situation. How is that not a Win/Win? BECAUSE it affects players that are NOT cheating as well. How are non-cheaters supposed to get around an exploit that makes the predator dissappear from local in normal space? AND BAN ALL EXPLOITERS... ALL OF THEM. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. The fix for local problem without the eradication of this intel channel will affect all players, too. And i don't see people ranting of no-local in WH either. Too bad right now the ones with the upper hand are the PL cheaters and anyone else that is sharing this exploit. I'll tell you what, let EVERYONE use this exploit and at least we're now all on even grounds. Stop excusing the use of this exploit like it's the mighty solution to a problem you personally don't like. If you don't like local, then use normal means to get rid of it (petition, garner support, etc). DO NOT create an exploit and justify its use because there's something in-game you personally don't like. If people had your mentality they'd create exploits for everything they didn't like about the game and it'd be perfectly reasonable to do so. Too bad exploits are not creatred, but discovered. And too bad you're endorsing the use of an exploit. Reported.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.24 07:29:00 - [1500] Nice argument there, Boomershot. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!



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