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Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.21 06:51:00 - [451] Originally by: Vicomte de'Bragelonne Edited by: Vicomte de''Bragelonne on 21/04/2010 06:45:22 Originally by: Grath Telkin monkey is indeed working with in the game mechanics. fk yeah! HE'S SHOOTING RAVENS 5'846KM AWAY ZOMG HAX**
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 06:54:00 - [452] Edited by: Certero on 21/04/2010 06:54:36 Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha They don't seem against the use of exploits, macros ARE exploits as well. In 5th time in this thread just for you and other clever guys: Monkey killed a lot of macro users and there were no troubles. But his recent victims were good russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.21 06:59:00 - [453] Originally by: Certero russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread.
Creamster Fremen Sietch DarkSide.	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:00:00 - [454] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: They cannot hotdrop che mach, as the fight was man against a bot. Bots don't hotdrop (for now). Well, bots deserve whatever's coming to them, when they were less sophisticated I used to hunt them down myself. But if monkeyshpere's victims were in fact piloted by men they received a golden opportunity to get a cool frag and they whined it away. By the way I do remember themonkey and lol internets lurking around stain years back. True pro, patient and deadly. Didn't cause us (stain empire folks) any trouble though but our pets complained a lot ___________ In Petition we trust
Corbeau Lenoir ZER0. IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:03:00 - [455] Few days ago I encountered this bug. I wasn't victim of some gank and haven't done anything special. I was just browsing through contracts, when my eve client froze. I closed the frozen client and relogged really fast. I wasn't present in any chat(local/corp/other). I experimented a little bit with my corpmates. It appears that everyone, who has logged after I did, saw me normally as it should be. Others(those who logged in before) - did not. Session change did not influence this bug. Docking/undocking didn't make me appear to those, who saw me not. So bug is clearly in the game. But I'm not sure how to reproduce it. I tried to bugreport this, but my report was filtered out, because of lack of guaranteed ways to reproduce this.
Jana Solaris	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:08:00 - [456] He's using a packet sniffer to single out the chatserver. How exactly he does it isn't clear but afaik it is similair to when you have severe lag and your chat windows don't load. It's been known for some time and judging by the ammount of PL fanboys there's more of 'm doing it. Monkeysphere, you should have just let it blow by instead of defending yourself (together with your alt ;)) only pulled more attention to it. So now the story's out we are gonna see 100's maybe 1000's of people doing this and CCP will have to fix it.
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:08:00 - [457] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Certero russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread. hey funny guy! do you really think that a lot of russians are macrousers??? You need to be more realistic. There are a lot of way to make good money (really god money) in this country if you have a mind. I'm not interesting in pilots who trying to work in eve - it's their own problem. But why to suspect all russians? Bcos you are reading bad papers and watchind bad tv?
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:13:00 - [458] Originally by: Jana Solaris He's using a packet sniffer to single out the chatserver. Exactly. Reprodused by EVE-RU users for one of the screenshots.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:14:00 - [459] Originally by: Certero Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Certero russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread. hey funny guy! do you really think that a lot of russians are macrousers??? Yes
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:21:00 - [460] Originally by: Boomershoot Yes Congrats! Most clever guy in this thread detected
Jana Solaris	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:33:00 - [461] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1305506 ?
SlayerOfArgus Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:36:00 - [462] Originally by: Jana Solaris http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1305506 ? ?
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:43:00 - [463] Quote: Monkey killed a lot of macro users and there were no troubles. But his recent victims were good russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread I suppose a non macro user who went attacked by an "invisible" player would immediately post a screenshot showing his ship being attacked / blown up while in local no one else is apparently present. I know I'd do. What's preventing those "good pilots" from doing that? Quote: So bug is clearly in the game. But I'm not sure how to reproduce it. I tried to bugreport this, but my report was filtered out, because of lack of guaranteed ways to reproduce this. You are experiencing the same bug I and Chribba already reported days ago on the Issues forum. Not sure if it's the way he's killing those guys, replicating the bug for 3 accounts / ships seems hard, I only get on 1 account out of 4 and not always. Quote: So now the story's out we are gonna see 100's maybe 1000's of people doing this and CCP will have to fix it. Hopefully CCP will do what they should have done years ago and remove local from 0.0 chats. Oh THE TEARS! MWAHAAHAH! - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Jana Solaris	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:45:00 - [464] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: Monkey killed a lot of macro users and there were no troubles. But his recent victims were good russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread I suppose a non macro user who went attacked by an "invisible" player would immediately post a screenshot showing his ship being attacked / blown up while in local no one else is apparently present. I know I'd do. What's preventing those "good pilots" from doing that? Quote: So bug is clearly in the game. But I'm not sure how to reproduce it. I tried to bugreport this, but my report was filtered out, because of lack of guaranteed ways to reproduce this. You are experiencing the same bug I and Chribba already reported days ago on the Issues forum. Not sure if it's the way he's killing those guys, replicating the bug for 3 accounts / ships seems hard, I only get on 1 account out of 4 and not always. Quote: So now the story's out we are gonna see 100's maybe 1000's of people doing this and CCP will have to fix it. Hopefully CCP will do what they should have done years ago and remove local from 0.0 chats. Oh THE TEARS! MWAHAAHAH! It is allready proven. Thread over.
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:46:00 - [465] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: Monkey killed a lot of macro users and there were no troubles. But his recent victims were good russian pilots (not macrousers)! That's why russians began this thread I suppose a non macro user who went attacked by an "invisible" player would immediately post a screenshot showing his ship being attacked / blown up while in local no one else is apparently present. I know I'd do. What's preventing those "good pilots" from doing that? because he is not mentally ******ed and enters local shortly before he attacks to make sure there is no proof of him using an exploit?
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:54:00 - [466] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I know I'd do. You're wrong. Covert is not in local chat and he will not decloak and kill you. You will be killed by 3 other ships. They will appear in local and jump to you as soon as they enter the system. Your screenshot will show 3 ships killing you, they will be in local. But your screenshot will not show cloaked covert and he will not be in local. So, screenshot will not help you...
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.04.21 07:59:00 - [467] Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 21/04/2010 08:04:57 Quote: because he is not mentally ****ed and enters local shortly before he attacks to make sure there is no proof of him using an exploit? So, get the eval FRAPS and use the feature that always keeps 30 seconds worth of video capture "hot" so that it can be stored when needed. This WILL show the 30 seconds before the attack, therefore Monkeywhatshisname will have to appear in those 30 seconds. If he appears in local 5 seconds before the gank then it's exploit, else it's just botters spewing excuses. This is the one and objective "proof" that would have any foundation for any claim. The made up crap posted in this thread does not prove the precise individual is using one of those methods to do so. Quote: They will appear in local and jump to you as soon as they enter the system. I know how to do the same, without breaking any EULA - and I am not even a 1337 PvPer at all. Quote: You're wrong. Covert is not in local chat and he will not decloak and kill you Take note of the exact EvE time the attack happened and petition CCP to check if the server actually had a covert in the system or not. That cannot be spoofed like a chat does. I mean, WTF all these people inventing new and creative ways (including exploiting the client themselves to prove a point) when with simple** things he could be pinned down? - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:02:00 - [468] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha The made up crap posted in this thread... Monkey is just a pilot. The question is about exploit not to be in local. No need to bann anybody, but need to fix exploit (or remove local from 0.0) to achieve fairplay.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:16:00 - [469] Originally by: Certero Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I know I'd do. You're wrong. Covert is not in local chat and he will not decloak and kill you. You will be killed by 3 other ships. They will appear in local and jump to you as soon as they enter the system. Your screenshot will show 3 ships killing you, they will be in local. But your screenshot will not show cloaked covert and he will not be in local. So, screenshot will not help you... Wait Wait so let me get this right. A cov ops who does not delcloak thoughout the fight and does not show up in local finds the target and the other three warp in on top of you?
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:16:00 - [470] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 21/04/2010 08:04:57 Quote: because he is not mentally ******ed and enters local shortly before he attacks to make sure there is no proof of him using an exploit? So, get the eval FRAPS and use the feature that always keeps 30 seconds worth of video capture "hot" so that it can be stored when needed. This WILL show the 30 seconds before the attack, therefore Monkeywhatshisname will have to appear in those 30 seconds. If he appears in local 5 seconds before the gank then it's exploit, else it's just botters spewing excuses. This is the one and objective "proof" that would have any foundation for any claim. The made up crap posted in this thread does not prove the precise individual is using one of those methods to do so. hey i'm not affected by him, i rat in a hac :P still that would proof nothing cause he could sit in local all day cloaked in his arazu and just enter local before he decloaks. Well i'm curious what ccp detects but no one would have thought it is possible to create materials from thin air in posses aswell
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:20:00 - [471] Edited by: Certero on 21/04/2010 08:21:03 Originally by: baltec1 Wait Wait so let me get this right. I'm not the victim - it was just my thoughts. I mean that ships that kill victim IS IN LOCAL at the moment of killing. Nothing more.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:23:00 - [472] Originally by: Certero Originally by: baltec1 Wait Wait so let me get this right. I'm not the victim - it was just my thoughts. I mean that ships that kill victim IS IN LOCAL in the moment of killing. Nothing more. Yea hypothetical talk talk. Its just that I have the burning question of, how do you know he is there if it never shows up in local or decloaks?
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:25:00 - [473] Originally by: Jana Solaris It is allready proven. Thread over. Guess CCP Will remove local then OH JOY :3
chrisss0r	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:25:00 - [474] nah from waht i understands he hangs around in local and searches for his target. When he finds it he enters local, uncloaks and points the target, then the buddies jump in. and yes i'm aware that the reason why people believe he did not show in local could be that people think "if he hd been in local my macro would have saved my ship up"
MisterAl tt1	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:28:00 - [475] Edited by: MisterAl tt1 on 21/04/2010 08:29:49 Originally by: Grath Telkin It seems the russian forums may be working out whats going on, and the consensus is that whatever your doing, can't be recreated on the live server, and that all the other screen shots are fakes (this is from their mouths), and that monkey is indeed working with in the game mechanics. THIS ia a LIE. There is no such idea at eve-ru at present. Damage Control failed.
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:31:00 - [476] Originally by: baltec1 Yea hypothetical talk talk. read ps in my last post please. i wrote it after you answer.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:35:00 - [477] Originally by: Boomershoot Originally by: Jana Solaris It is allready proven. Thread over. Guess CCP Will remove local then OH JOY :3 We can only wish. I doubt they will go that far though. Also kudos to PL for figureing out a massive bug and being kind enough to gather copius data to make a comprehensive steps to reproduce list. Moar alliances should be this helpful in the QA process. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Vicomte de'Bragelonne	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:37:00 - [478] Originally by: Zeba Also kudos to PL for abusing a massive bug Fixed for you.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:40:00 - [479] Originally by: Certero Originally by: baltec1 Yea hypothetical talk talk. read ps in my last post please. i wrote it after you answer. Well as someone who went to the dronelands to shoot some game I can safely say the russians dont take much care. I have a little spot at a gate I like to camp (gave up hunting them as everyone seems to use a macro). The amount of ships that continue to pass through after I just killed something is amazing. The best haul was something like a hauler and three drakes and a flight of guards from a carrier in 5 minutes on the same gate. I am willing to bet that a combination or gate camping, bubbles and good probing are all that is going on here. If I had the money to blow I would be taking solo BS around there all the time or a blocade runner full of bubbles and a pigrim team.
Certero	Posted - 2010.04.21 08:42:00 - [480] Edited by: Certero on 21/04/2010 08:45:33 Originally by: baltec1 If I had the money to blow I would be taking solo BS around there all the time or a blocade runner full of bubbles and a pigrim team. You're right. But now we know how not to show ourself in local and anyone can make any tricks he likes.

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