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Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:00:00 - [1561] Originally by: Grath Telkin So, what proof did you find that Monkey is cheating? Ever since post 1 of this thread, people have been reporting Monkeyman as having done stuff which is impossible under normal gameplay. All y'all have been dismissing or ridiculing such reports, so there's little use in pointing you to those posts again. CCP is investigating. If even any of those reports can be proven, he will be banned. Even if CCP can't directly prove wrongdoing (lack of relevant server log info, for example), they'll at least fix the exploit. And then, and someone said earlier, you'll suddenly see Monkeyman's killstats return to that of a normal player. Neither scenario is going to be very pretty. -- Gorgeous, delicious, deculture!
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:06:00 - [1562] Originally by: Romale Originally by: Ranka Mei Yes, yes, poke fun. One thing is certain, though, from now on people will look at your Alliance Tournament victories a little differently. im still waiting for why this matters? Actually, it doesn't. At least not to me. Most corps care about their reputation, though, is all. I thought you guys did too. -- Gorgeous, delicious, deculture!
Grath Telkin Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:23:00 - [1563] Originally by: Ranka Mei Originally by: Grath Telkin So, what proof did you find that Monkey is cheating? Ever since post 1 of this thread, people have been reporting Monkeyman as having done stuff which is impossible under normal gameplay. All y'all have been dismissing or ridiculing such reports, so there's little use in pointing you to those posts again. So, just to be clear: Your witness statements are obviously true, because you said so, but our witness statements, are obviously lies, also because you said so. That totally sounds legit.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:25:00 - [1564] I see that the thread has finally crossed over to a full blown CAOD rant. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Romale Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 19:59:00 - [1565] As this thread has wound down and is pretty terrible i'm going to quote the place that does the bots for you so you guys can figure out whats going on. I'm not going to post the link because that will probably get me banned but some of you are smart enough to find this using google, and some of you might be smart enough to realize botters can and always will be **ed. Originally by:** Chameleon hello everyone! i have a problem with bot killers. i believe not only me. the problem is: then hostile enter the system bot run on NotWhiteListPilot to SSpot(pos in my example). If bot arrive to SSpot while hostile in local, bot switch to wait some time in ss after hostile leave local. But if hostile leave local while bot IN Warp to SS, bot didn't switch to WAIT and warp to NEXT belt or even FIRST Belt in list. So what we have summary: Hostile enter system, warp to any belt and logoff in warp. Bot run to SS cause Hostile enter the system. Arrive to SS and as local is clear it warp to next belt. hostile login back on belt. looking: if bot not in belt, logoff for a 1-2 min again. bot arrive in next belt from SS and back to SS then hostile login back. and again back to next belt from SS cause Hostile is logedoff and bot don't switch to Wait timer. so in 1-10 tries bot will warp directly to the belt with botkiller and if they use scanner in first enter and know the group of belts where the bot was then they enter, they can kill bot in 1-3 tries. :cry: so i don't know where i can write delay for "ANYWAY wait on SS for few min IF hostile enter system just for few seconds and warp after to random belt" Originally by: CyberTech It doesn't wait at all, in any case, unless you added it yourself. There is always, even with a wait, the potential for someone to simply logout in a belt... that's why we say don't bot afk. It gets you banned or blown up The dev version has improved behavior in this regard, but there will never be a foolproof way around folks who want to blow you up and just incase some of you are to stupid to have followed this from the start: the guy who did original complaint said he botted
Grath Telkin Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:07:00 - [1566] Edited by: Grath Telkin on 24/04/2010 20:07:34 Originally by: Romale As this thread has wound down and is pretty terrible i'm going to quote the place that does the bots for you so you guys can figure out whats going on. I'm not going to post the link because that will probably get me banned but some of you are smart enough to find this using google, and some of you might be smart enough to realize botters can and always will be **ed. Originally by:** Chameleon hello everyone! i have a problem with bot killers. i believe not only me. the problem is: then hostile enter the system bot run on NotWhiteListPilot to SSpot(pos in my example). If bot arrive to SSpot while hostile in local, bot switch to wait some time in ss after hostile leave local. But if hostile leave local while bot IN Warp to SS, bot didn't switch to WAIT and warp to NEXT belt or even FIRST Belt in list. So what we have summary: Hostile enter system, warp to any belt and logoff in warp. Bot run to SS cause Hostile enter the system. Arrive to SS and as local is clear it warp to next belt. hostile login back on belt. looking: if bot not in belt, logoff for a 1-2 min again. bot arrive in next belt from SS and back to SS then hostile login back. and again back to next belt from SS cause Hostile is logedoff and bot don't switch to Wait timer. so in 1-10 tries bot will warp directly to the belt with botkiller and if they use scanner in first enter and know the group of belts where the bot was then they enter, they can kill bot in 1-3 tries. :cry: so i don't know where i can write delay for "ANYWAY wait on SS for few min IF hostile enter system just for few seconds and warp after to random belt" Originally by: CyberTech It doesn't wait at all, in any case, unless you added it yourself. There is always, even with a wait, the potential for someone to simply logout in a belt... that's why we say don't bot afk. It gets you banned or blown up The dev version has improved behavior in this regard, but there will never be a foolproof way around folks who want to blow you up and just incase some of you are to stupid to have followed this from the start: the guy who did original complaint said he botted NO DAMN IT! IT STILL HAD A FEW DAYS LEFT IN IT
FactorLT	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:29:00 - [1567] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: WhiteSavage Oh he's cheating and he needs to be banned. And PL fools who defend him will be looked down upon as should be. SWEET, finally a man that sounds like he knows exactly what's going on! So, what proof did you find that Monkey is cheating? You sound so sure, you must have something right? ... Right? Man, you should be careful, or your unfounded smear campaign could result in people looking down on Atlas, as it should be. You just pretend stupid?or you are? but i gues its not the case...you just one of the guys who new about it In beggining you said its just your superior tactics and skill,now you changed melody to " proove, proove it,you cant proove **,ya ya expoit exist but proof we did it... So why the f.... thes thread came up? not becourse someone found a bug,but becourse you damn cheaters (dont mean all PL) but the primat and the others who cover it got reported becourse of killing regular players.So cut the drama, i hope all you will be banned,becourse of you SUCH a grate aliance started to smell like ** In RA we trust
Stonie001101 Stonie001101 Holding's	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:37:00 - [1568] they are accused of cheating in 1 or 2 of their killboard mails a day even before this thread was made.
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.04.24 20:42:00 - [1569] I lost all respect(be it very little) for PL. Not cause some guy in thier alliance is cheating. Because some of them are trying to defend it. Monkey got busted, get over it. I'm quite certain had any of them been a victim to this expoilt they would be singing a different tune. I don't like macro's. But, you know the old saying. Two wrongs don't make a right. Becides, it's evident that most of his targets were not macro's.
hattifnatt North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:31:00 - [1570] Originally by: FactorLT You just pretend stupid?or you are? but i gues its not the case...you just one of the guys who new about it In beggining you said its just your superior tactics and skill,now you changed melody to " proove, proove it,you cant proove **,ya ya expoit exist but proof we did it... So why the f.... thes thread came up? not becourse someone found a bug,but becourse you damn cheaters (dont mean all PL) but the primat and the others who cover it got reported becourse of killing regular players.So cut the drama, i hope all you will be banned,becourse of you SUCH a grate aliance started to smell like ** Yes, because at first noone in pl knew about the existence of an exploit until nunununu created one just to prove monkeysphere was using it.
Neo Gabriel Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:40:00 - [1571] Edited by: Neo Gabriel on 24/04/2010 21:41:20 CCP is gonna ban you all and say they found a way to check the logs. I always thought the no logs thing is bull **** so they can cover themselves. They know when people lag out when loading grid they just say nothing shows on the logs to shut people up and not have to reimburse them. It always shows on the logs. Maybe they don't have logs of packet delays or denials but they don't have to prove to us that "the logs don't show anything", they can just ban the cheaters and say they have evidence and they don't have to prove anything to anyone. PS: I bet they are waiting to have the exploit fixed before the bans to prevent a counter attack.
FactorLT	Posted - 2010.04.24 21:41:00 - [1572] Yes, because at first noone in pl knew about the existence of an exploit until nunununu created one just to prove monkeysphere was using it Yes ofcorse,monkey is super ninja, and huhuhu just really wanted to find a bug to prove monkey is not a super hero , but just a pathetic cheater.I understand to cover your corpmate,or ally m8 is noble,but in thes situation the thing is out of control,and only one way to control damage witch primate made not to me,or to other players,but to you and other of your ally mates is to get rid of these element and give evidense to public,that yes we made our own investigation,nobody believed it but its true.At least these pilots of yours who have nothing to do with thes embaresment will safe face. In RA we trust
Franga NQX Innovations	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:09:00 - [1573] Originally by: Nata Asphyxia Originally by: Sabrosa Namaste well as someone who was in PL for a long time (and I probably wont remain anonymous for long) the monkeysphere has long been known to not appear in local, story goes his internet was crappy (from estonia) and after some research he somehow figured out how to make his connection to the eve server without appearing in local, he's been killing unkillable farmers for years, and does it without appearing in local on either of his chars, go look at his history of kills on the PL killboard and you'll see what I mean, the rumours about this started in PL 2 or so years ago, If I'm wrong then my bad but from what I've seen I was pretty convinced of his ability to not appear in local. Cool story bro. I can assure you that here, in Estonia we have pretty good connection (proof) I live far from town in a private house and still have my 12Mbit/s, probably will have switched to 100Mbit/s by 2011. How is it that a country like Estonia can get that kind of connection speed, but not in Australia. So ghey.
hattifnatt North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:16:00 - [1574] Originally by: FactorLT Yes, because at first noone in pl knew about the existence of an exploit until nunununu created one just to prove monkeysphere was using it Yes ofcorse,monkey is super ninja, and huhuhu just really wanted to find a bug to prove monkey is not a super hero , but just a pathetic cheater.I understand to cover your corpmate,or ally m8 is noble,but in thes situation the thing is out of control,and only one way to control damage witch primate made not to me,or to other players,but to you and other of your ally mates is to get rid of these element and give evidense to public,that yes we made our own investigation,nobody believed it but its true.At least these pilots of yours who have nothing to do with thes embaresment will safe face. I am unsure what to make of this post as your google translate English while funny is really quite incomprehensible. also: the only thing that will come out of this is that nunununu will have his accounts permabanned. And as has been stated before no one have proved spherical monkey has used the exploit that nunununu has presented (and will probably be banned for.)
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:19:00 - [1575] Originally by: Neo Gabriel Edited by: Neo Gabriel on 24/04/2010 21:41:20 CCP is gonna ban you all and say they found a way to check the logs. PS: I bet they are waiting to have the exploit fixed before the bans to prevent a counter attack. are you serious? or do you really think this way for real? "A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game."
Lanais Suleia	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:21:00 - [1576] Edited by: Lanais Suleia on 24/04/2010 22:23:08 Originally by: Romale As this thread has wound down and is pretty terrible i'm going to quote the place that does the bots for you so you guys can figure out whats going on. *snip* So the botters admit that they're botters. Now if we can only get the exploiters to admit they're exploiting, the rest of us can get back to playing Eve without having scum like you and them around. edit: Word filter shouldn't care about that word.
Romale Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:24:00 - [1577] Originally by: Lanais Suleia Edited by: Lanais Suleia on 24/04/2010 22:23:08 Originally by: Romale As this thread has wound down and is pretty terrible i'm going to quote the place that does the bots for you so you guys can figure out whats going on. *snip* i guess you weren't one of the people who could read and figure it out So the botters admit that they're botters. Now if we can only get the exploiters to admit they're exploiting, the rest of us can get back to playing Eve without having scum like you and them around. edit: Word filter shouldn't care about that word.
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:30:00 - [1578] RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Neo Gabriel Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:31:00 - [1579] I am pretty sure that "open-ended" and "no right way to play" is not supposed to mean you can use hacks to cheat and take advantage over other people. Neither does it mean, that you can write and use macros to abuse the game engine.
FactorLT	Posted - 2010.04.24 22:43:00 - [1580] I am unsure what to make of this post as your google translate English while funny is really quite incomprehensible. also: the only thing that will come out of this is that nunununu will have his accounts permabanned. And as has been stated before no one have proved spherical monkey has used the exploit that nunununu has presented (and will probably be banned for.) Listen m8 i dont use google translator,i speak flueant english(at least turist english),just my grama is quit bad,since i havent write in this language for really long time.Them huhuhu demonstrated bug on sisi not tq.If he would be a cheater it wouldnt be in hes interests to point the bug.Now you will say he brought it to light becourse all russians are macro and protecting hes income... its same like to say that al of you Pandemics are just a bunch of cheaters, witch i believe is not true.I dont think there less macros from your side or any other side,in case i know there lots of them just go to geminate to r.a.g.e,morsus spaces or go to deep insmother to atlas or HTA space you find them everywhere.I agree its evil,but now we not talking about them its other problem witch should be dealt with,we talking about "primat magic" and as i am a pvp pilot i dont give a f... about ships and isk witch i lose till then until it was FAIR FIGT,if i lost-i made a mistake,noone to blaim,but if someone have that kind of advantage its the same like aim bot on counter-strike.So stop pointing that russians are macros,stop the bulls... that primat is super pvper and all other jut a bunch of loosers and now **** what to do in the battle...Just... why i am still answering your posts? for me and for most of eve comunity PL is ally witch covers cheaters-means most of them are cheaters...should be so if they covering it.SHAME ON YOU In RA we trust
Vincent Gaines Macabre Votum	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:14:00 - [1581] ban everyone.
Rellik B00n Minmatar Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:37:00 - [1582] 780 - 778 half time score. + LDSkill+hireLDS
Dianeces SiN. Corp Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:38:00 - [1583] Ban bans and the banners who ban them.
Pr1ncess Alia Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.04.24 23:38:00 - [1584] Originally by: Neo Gabriel I am pretty sure that "open-ended" and "no right way to play" is not supposed to mean you can use hacks to cheat and take advantage over other people. Neither does it mean, that you can write and use macros to abuse the game engine. did you just reply to my sig? yes, you just replied to my sig. not the smartest steak knife in the drawer are we? "A game that is significantly nonlinear is sometimes described as being open-ended or a sandbox, and is characterized by there being no "right way" of playing the game."
Pestilent Industries	Posted - 2010.04.25 00:12:00 - [1585] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: WhiteSavage Oh he's cheating and he needs to be banned. And PL fools who defend him will be looked down upon as should be. SWEET, finally a man that sounds like he knows exactly what's going on! So, what proof did you find that Monkey is cheating? You sound so sure, you must have something right? ... Right? Man, you should be careful, or your unfounded smear campaign could result in people looking down on Atlas, as it should be. The proof is in the pudding. Monkey is guilt and will be banned along with his other PL accomplishes who also abuse the game. And don't worry, everyone looks down on PL, you have nothing to worry about.
Billybob Braggins	Posted - 2010.04.25 00:15:00 - [1586] Quoting Hammurabi, "Build this glorious thread the largest of them all! Let this rant reach the skies, and may it never fade from the first page."
Neo Gabriel Gallente Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.25 00:48:00 - [1587] You think there is a chance of resolution of this during the weekend? Does ccp even work during the weekend? I guess we gotta wait till Monday to maybe get the final score.
kaisersauzee	Posted - 2010.04.25 01:15:00 - [1588] Originally by: Neo Gabriel You think there is a chance of resolution of this during the weekend? Does ccp even work during the weekend? I guess we gotta wait till Monday to maybe get the final score. I think you`ll find only the macros will be working 23/7 this weekend
FactorLT	Posted - 2010.04.25 01:42:00 - [1589] REAL MAGIC http://i40.tinypic.com/346aw46.gif In RA we trust
Oscardoodle Amarr	Posted - 2010.04.25 02:01:00 - [1590] The real issue is CCP allowing Russians to play. Everyone knows Russians are evil. I once knew a Russian guy and he was pretty irritating to say the least. P.S. Russians are Klingons. I apologize for having one of those sigs...Sorry. I've just killed two parrots with one stone. Shadow.

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