^ But don't you have to step on their lawn, to give their logo back? I am just a simple miner, and those logo placing and lawn treading mechanics are a bit over my head.

suggestion: with the buff to reapers, a large gang of reapers can gank a hulk in highsec....

Its kind of funny, my old CEO was the same as you. Started out mining, then moved to pirating and said it was much more fun. I am still kind of expecting that to happen to me someday, Just wake up and turn pirate, but it hasn't happened yet.

some maybe, others well 2nd or 3rd gank attempt is usually called bait and tanked to hell and back with a fleet waiting either off grid or one system over :)

Step 1: Halve Concord Response time, triple the sec status penalty. (ganker nerf)

Step 2: Create the Noctis - destroying ninja income by crashing the value of salvage.

Step 3: Kill the LVL 4 Loot, while leaving 'unstealable' bounties untouched. (ninja nerf)

Step 4: Two stealth nerfs of the Orca's abilities, specifically so ninjas cannot benefit from them. (ninja nerf)

Step 5: End enforcement of alliance hopping exploits. (merc nerf)

Step 6: Remove insurance, but only for gankers, while leaving it in place for self-destruction. (ganker nerf)

Step 7: Screw up RR and aggression flags, then provide helpful popups so nobody can hurt an Incursion bear. (Skunkworks)

Step 8: Dramatically reduce the time and effort it takes to set-up or break-down a POS. (merc nerf)

Step 9: Buff Concord by preventing pirates from boarding or bailing out of ships while GCC'd. (Smodab Ongalot nerf)

Step 10: Buff Concord again, by making them appear instantly to prevent warping while GCC'd. (Herr Wilkus nerf)

Step 11: Huge increase of wardec costs, while allowing free allies and unrestrained corp-dropping to the defender. (mercs)

Step 12: Insane barge buff. (ganker nerf)

Step 13: Crimewatch (major nerf to hauler/freighter ganking and ninjas)

Step 14: Who knows? Instant Concord death ray? Quoting some fool in FF 2012: "Pewww!"

And thats just high-sec.....I'm not even going to start a list of punitive measures taken against a certain nul-sec Alliance that will remain nameless.

Factor in statements from DEVS, on this very thread: Quotable Winners like "Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable", or "Gankers are expected to lose more than the victim..."

Its pretty clear where these steps are taking us.........

Ah, was wondering where all the 'likes' were coming from.

Seems that James 315 posted the 2nd part of his excellent series on the inexorable nerfing of highsec aggression.

Read it here....at themittani.com



http://themittani.com/features/road-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future

Just meant, CCP joined our side (the miners) but we are still gankable, even with their help. Its not really an instant game over, the way you guys are making it out to be.

But there might be a reason, why someone wants to kill a frog.

Perhaps the frog should learn that as well. To help keep the pot exercise from becoming perpetual.

I suppose the hi sec pot was built on the backs of the frog gankers. I usually see us normal hi seccers as the original hi seccers., but you say the ganking frogs we try to boil, were the first there. Not sure maybe they were, they suck as in frogs were used as a plague, but if plague frogs were there first, they were there first.

Ah, was wondering where all the 'likes' were coming from.

Seems that James 315 posted the 2nd part of his excellent series on the inexorable nerfing of highsec aggression.

Read it here....at themittani.com



http://themittani.com/features/road-nerfdom-highsecs-carebear-future

counter-point: a large gang of anything can gank anything anywhere

Maybe now, but I'm sure they can do something about that, given enough time ...

Look at all these suicide ganker tears because they can't fit up a T1 destroyer for little to no ISK and solo gank a ship that cost 200m+ for the hull. Absolutely pathetic.

You can still suicide gank that shinny, but you will need to bring a few friends (you know, the thing you keep telling everyone in high sec to get...) and you will need to pony up a bit of ISK to do it. So dry those eyes already.

Well you know, miners that fit a good tank pre-patch couldn't be ganked by said solo ganker in a destroyer either.

No...it took a whole 2 cheap fit destroyers instead of 1.
Barges/Exhumers needed this buff a long time ago. Still gankable, just not at the ridiculous low cost as it was pre patch.

Can't Suicide Gank a Titan, SuperCarrier, or Rorqual.

No...it took a whole 2 cheap fit destroyers instead of 1.