Straw Filling

So, about EHP of Catalyst. I think untanked Catalyst should have at least 20k EHP.

You'll find you get better DPS with a T2 Burst Aerator and a Pashan's Turret Customization Mindlink.
With an Augmented Hobgoblin, it totals up to 1585.

See what I mean? You just follow the party line.

How about you keep your accusations in one place until you have some evidence to show that they have any merit. Hmmm?

You'll find you get better DPS with a T2 Burst Aerator and a Pashan's Turret Customization Mindlink.
With an Augmented Hobgoblin, it totals up to 1585.

Though, none of your incredibly meticulous straw man is at all relevant.

You mean like the fact that having the barge re-balanced removed is pretty much the party line and so is removing implants to benefit null sec PvPers and the party line. I'm sure if I could be stuffed looking I would find more but I can't be bothered. Its just a normal thing for the forums your masters push a point on these forums and you follow behind.

Please, use calculater next time so we don't have to see how bad you are at math.
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Why it's so important for you to be able to destroy barges/exhumers with one volley?

What "Party" is this? Am I a Communist now?

As I said in the other thread that you tried to derail with personal attacks, do you have any evidence that shows that I am arguing in bad faith?

Where did I say that it was important to me to be able to one volley barges/exhumers? Quote and Link please.

No you do personal attacks. I was just stating that you never seem to gone against the party line (As I have seen Communist style propaganda pictures involved, I could say communist but I won't)

As does your ability to only ever follow party lines. Your involvement in something like this is always guaranteed as are your personal attacks. Your masters say jump and you say "How High, Sir"

Ok... Why it's so important to profit from suicide gank?

When Gankers are plentiful, Ore Prices go up, so those who manage to avoid getting ganked get a higher return for their efforts, while those who cannot manage to do so get a lower return (cause they have to tank their ship or they have to recoup losses). Nerfing or Removing Suicide Ganking reduces or removes the profits that smart/industrious miners make over stupid/lazy miners.

You propaganda posters no, only your masters.

As to bad faith that depends on your terminology. I am sure a lot of people have fully believed in their rulers propaganda over the years.

After all it is well known that allied troops eat children.

No you do personal attacks. I was just stating that you never seem to gone against the party line (As I have seen Communist style propaganda pictures involved, I could say communist but I won't)

You missed if more T2 barges are killed more often, the tech moon owners sell more, as there is a larger demand and subsequently they make more isk.

Because Suicide Ganks are the only risk HS miners face. Without suicide ganking, there is no benefit for miners who are better equipped to cope with risks. When Suicide Ganking someone is profitable, someone will do it. When it is not (for instance, when someone bothers to Tank their Hulk), nobody (or very, very few people) will do it.

So, since suicide ganking Mackinaws is not profitable, nobody (or very, very few people) do it, so there's no reason to use the Skiff, ever. And since nobody (or very, very few people) are suicide ganking miners, the people who are too stupid or lazy to avoid suicide gankers don't gain any value from their ability.

When Gankers are plentiful, Ore Prices go up, so those who manage to avoid getting ganked get a higher return for their efforts, while those who cannot manage to do so get a lower return (cause they have to tank their ship or they have to recoup losses). Nerfing or Removing Suicide Ganking reduces or removes the profits that smart/industrious miners make over stupid/lazy miners.

As we are discussing my posting, show me the Propaganda posters that I have posted or admit that you lied.

As to bad faith, you accused me of being beholden to a "party" and having "masters." Now you're admitting that I am neither beholden to a "party" nor do I have "masters?"

Quite a U turn for something without an apology.

Skiff is useless and indeed isn't used in any way:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17358069
Just one from quick Google search. You can find more but you have to learn how to use search engines first.

So, you want ship prices to go up? And you whine about how possible profit you could make from suicide ganking drops?

Oh another talk drivel and see if it works post. You resort to those rather easily.

No you have not posted propaganda pictures (as far as I know), it is your masters that do that.
As to towing the party line and following your masters lead. Yep you do this completely.

Sorry, I meant to add the caveat "for mining." Since that's a bait ship.

Sorry, I meant to add the caveat "for mining." Since that's a bait ship.

And since you're accusing me of having a party line to "tow" and masters to "follow" do you have any evidence to show that I have either?

Or is disagreement with you evidence enough of some massive conspiracy?

So? Do you have a problem with bait ships?

The Procurer and Skiff are made for protection against suicide gank, or NPCs, by giving a large enough buffer to react to incoming attacks, while paying for that with a lower mining yield.

Has to be... 28,673 damage received!?

The evidence is in these forums, your masters say this is good you are there not long after repeating the same things.

So then you'll have no trouble presenting your evidence of my colluding with "masters" to "tow" a "party line."

Like that would work, you perfectly well know you follow the party line so any thing pointed out to you like, I don't know this thread, you will just deny.

Not at all. But the stated purpose of the Skiff is to be a mining ship with a bunch of EHP for, and I'll quote the Dev Blog,



So, since the Mackinaw provides sufficient protection against Suicide Gank to render it rare enough to be ignored (and all the Exhumers can easily deal with belt rats), what is the purpose of the Skiff in the context of mining?

Killmails record raw damage received after resistances. So it's the sum total of those "X has done Y damage with a Rocket" messages. In other words, it's your Raw HP plus whatever raw HP you healed.