I have no idea what I'm doing (you're right)!

[Hurricane, Instacane]

Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I

Locks a Catalyst in 1 second.
A direct hit alphas an untanked Catalyst.

Can I have a gold star now?

I prefer 425mm or 650s ACs on a Nado. Sure it takes 2 shots to kill a Catalyst, but you get a shot every 2 seconds and change (call it 3s). You'll end up killing more Catalysts over the course of the 20s gank. (3 instead of 2)

Ice is not. Also go mine in 1.0 yourself and you'll find out you why nobody serious does it.

Then be ATK.

Again, that Tank is the counter to a gank specifically designed to murder a tanked Hulk.

Put a Midslot/Rigslot/1 Low tank on a Hulk and people will go after softer targets instead of you. Midslot/Rigslot only tank will also probably keep you alive.

It's just not the "never profitable" protection of the total brick tank.

Stuff about -10 and SiSi.

BTW how comes I can get a gank cane setup that sacrifices NOTHING (top tracking, best possible T2 turrets, 1.6s lock time, all T2 mods, 37k EHP without all V skills, high burst, 3 gyrostabs...) but if I want to fly a Mack I either forfeit 35% of yeld or have a pure sh!t zero tank and ofc all V skills?

Even being ATK and with YOUR fitting I got a guy still managing to shoot *1* 'nado salvo on my experiment mack and quite hurt it before it warped out (and it was aligned and full speed or else...).

Not even when playing in low sec you have to be ATK like an hawk like that, nor you are out for 8 hours in an universally warpable location when you go in low sec.


BTW how comes I can get a gank cane setup that sacrifices NOTHING (top tracking, best possible T2 turrets, 1.6s lock time, all T2 mods, 37k EHP without all V skills, high burst, 3 gyrostabs...) but if I want to fly a Mack I either forfeit 35% of yeld or have a pure sh!t zero tank and ofc all V skills?

nothing wrong with that; it's perfectly balanced.

Without that all those elite pvp dudes would have some hard time undocking, don't even tell them they have free targets in null sec.

I have no idea what I'm doing (you're right)!

[Hurricane, Instacane]

Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Counterbalanced Weapon Mounts I
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution Script

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I
Medium Targeting System Subcontroller I

Locks a Catalyst in 1 second.
A direct hit alphas an untanked Catalyst.

Can I have a gold star now?

nothing wrong with that; it's perfectly balanced.

Mining Ice in a Hulk is perfectly viable, if a little slow. And when I say ATK, I mean actually doing something, which means that your protection is not being there for him to salvo you. You warp out as he starts landing on grid, not after he starts locking you.

Anyway, have I ever said the Mack couldn't do with some love? I've only said that the New SISI mack has gotten too much love and because of that, it eclipses the New SISI Skiff.

Last night I had a Falcon decloak on me (I think accidentally) and then tried to crash a gate. He started jamming me on the way to the gate. He had a full rack of Multispecs and a pair of 220s in the Highs.

That's pretty much a free target. And a Free kill.

Not enough dps to destroy that Catalyst.

How can he use the gate if he aggressed you?

Might be balanced but I totally feel well in my combat ships (minmatar and caldari) while the mining ships feel big smelly cartons that are just poor and lacking.

Even the Orca is a great ship, mine got like 250k EHP without sacrificing but a little cargo, it can be reconfigured to carry a lot or be very tanked or use a MWD for quick warp...

it's just the mining ships that suck really hard balls.


And even then, I prefer today's Hulk vs the new version. I'll never fly it. Total removal of any flexibility (like it had a lot to begin with!).
Nobody who is not a masochistic drone will use that piece of crap.

the problem is either the exhumers will eclipse the skiff or they will still be gank fodder. there's no middle ground. it'll be unprofitable to tank and the skiff will be redundant, or it will be profitable to gank and the rebalancing has failed.

At the moment, on SISI, it's as follows:
Skiff: What, are you stupid? Go use a Mack.
Mackinaw: Set me off on an Ice belt and take a nap. You look tired. I'll still be here when you wake up. Probably not full, even.
Hulk: Got friends and not worried about ganking? You're in the money, you're in the money.

The Hulk's fine. The Skiff and Mack are splitting the same Role, and the Mack is better at it.

RF EMP does 3879 damage per Volley.
Suicide Catalyst has 3764 EHP vs EMP.

Hulk: lol why-ever-fly-unpracticable-cargo-and-stupidly-small-crystals-hold piece of paper?

There's this really cool thing called friends.

Yes I'll get friends to waste their day continuously emptying the minuscule hold for me and one of them will sit in a corner like a waiter for my gracious new crystals order. Read above, min maxed things need to be streamlined else they lose much of their viability in useless micromanagement (because it does not require any skill, it's just imposed burden).

There's this really cool thing called friends.

So you're saying that you don't have friends.

Tears..tear never changes...117 pages and counting.

Hi bears
Null bears
Griefers

keep em comin.

So you're saying that you don't have friends.

even if he did it wouldn't matter. if your friends have half a brain they wouldn't want to spend the day constantly going back and forth with cargo holds full of crystals in addition to the stuff they're meant to be doing etc.

the simple fact is the new tiny cargo hold means you have additional pointless logistics for no reason; there was never an issue being able to carry 30 crystals before, so why have ccp decided to make it one?

Only if you somehow get perfect shot. It's often only 2600-2800 per volley.