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Svennig
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:36:00 -
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August Hayek wrote:good nerf, but please:
1. buff dreads --> 20% more tank, better tracking
2. buff carriers --> 20% more tank, more fuel bay
3. let fighters as they are now, with the nerf they get somewhat useless
CCP, do this.
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S8nt
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:36:00 -
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Xue Slick wrote:Simple solution... want less super capitals on the field... make them 4 times as expensive so there is less of them?
CCP, you have made it so easy to make ISK that any Joe can get one now.
Easy changes:
- Double the bandwidth required for fighter and fighter bombers. Half the DPS and helps with system lag.
- Reduce Super Carrier and Titans EHP by 20%
- Increase Dreads and Carriers EHP by 20% ( Will solve your DD problem )
- Reduce the Siege cycle to 5 minutes
- Remove the Drone bays as stated and buff damage to Dreads
- Rework the cost of Super Capitals so less people can get into them. 2x, maybe 3x the price?
Do it CCP.
This! |
Cambarus
Clearly Compensating
11
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:36:00 -
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The tracking penalty for the siege mod has got to go. Make dreads and carriers anti-BS platforms, while supers kill caps, BSs kill BCs, BCs kill HACs, etc. |
Klam
Viziam
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:41:00 -
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1 big concern... fighter weapon sig changes...
The impact the fighter weapon sig change will have on standard carriers. Carriers were usable for small raiding support and PvE Level 5 missions. This has the potential to dramatically impact their effectiveness in these roles. Both functions which have very little to do with fleet blobs. Please consider not having this sig change impact standard carriers.
If standard carriers didn't get the fighter nerf, I suspect it would add some additional flavor to fleet battles, as softer standard carriers could be used as anti-subcap.
In truth i'm not sure the fighter weapon sig change is necessary with the drone bay changes for supers. If killing all the fighters defangs the supers completely against subcaps; then a counter already exists. Once they are defanged, the logout changes ensure that a well run subcap fleet just earned itself a super killmail.
As the sig penalty currently stands described in the dev blog it apears to have many unintended side effects. If the intention is to also nerf Standard carriers please make that intention clear. |
Ganthrithor
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:46:00 -
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Another thing-- an additional small change to logoff mechanics would be good: allow ships to be agressed until their ewarp has ended. I can't tell you the number of kills I've missed out on because I wasn't flying a dictor and a hostile ship either jumps through a gate or cynos to a cyno-beacon and just logs out before their 60/30s of invulnerability are up. At that point, even if you tackle their ship when it decloaks / starts to ewarp, the ship vanishes before you can kill it.
Change the mechanic so that a ship that is agressed while ewarping stays in space. Quit letting idiots get away with horrifically poor-decision making by simply pressing ctrl-q while invulnerable.
e: for example, I remember a while back we had a rapier camping a cyno-beacon on a de-fanged pos (only the beacon was left online), with a supercarrier in system. An Archon cynoed to the beacon. The Rapier decloaked and started trying to lock the carrier. Before the carrier's 30 second invulnerability timer was up, he control-q'ed. As soon as his ewarp started, the rapier was able to lock and got a point, but the carrier disappeared a minute later, well before it was possible to kill it.
The other day, we chased a Maelstrom through a gate. He logged out before our dictor could burn back to zero on the gate and drop a centered bubble. Although we interrupted his ewarp with a bubble when he control-q'ed, he disappeared before we could pop him.
This mechanic is developmentally challenged. |
kralz
Angelus.Mortis
RED.Legion
4
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:46:00 -
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dear ccp,
when and if this patch goes live as outlined. will one of you please light me a cyno in jove space? i guess when ur time is dont in this world its time to go on to the next. jove empire is a good enough place to retire. i wont make much noice i promise, just crash my nyx into a nice green planet some where and look for these awesome drugs u guys are on.
thanks, your sincerely
kralz, hot dropper, super cap, cap, black op...
PS wtf is that black ops buff? werent they supposed to be super killing machines? some one mentioned that...either way...i digress, cyno in jove space for me please. thanks |
Baron vonDoom
Scorn.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:48:00 -
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Don't nerf fighters - they're fine. |
Mekia Buelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:51:00 -
[608] - Quote
Kari Kari wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:If you enjoyed these changes and things happening to spaceships IN SPACE I guerantee you'll love the rest of the stuff we have lined up for winter  Keep an eye out for the blogs. Already cancelled all other subscriptions since EVE and CCP has gone to total sh**!
Since people have leaving so "quickly" can i have your stuffz as well? I promise i`ll keep it safe 
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Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
72
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:51:00 -
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so will we get the option to have super cap/dread/carrier skills reimbursed? ill even give you aur for it(only cos you keep dumping that **** into my wallet)
CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
106
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:56:00 -
[610] - Quote
People who buy obvioulsy unbalanced stuff because of the unbalanced **** in the stuff should stay quiet. You ought to know that it is going to be balanced sooner or later.
Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
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Luara Vherok
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:58:00 -
[611] - Quote
Should also reduce the damage inflicted on sub-capital ships from guns fitted on a titan. When you make this change, with the other ones, titans will become balanced (in my biased opinion of course). You'll give meaning to support fleets for capitals.
I like all the other changes, I think they're a step in the right direction. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
146
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:59:00 -
[612] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:People who buy obvioulsy unbalanced stuff because of the unbalanced **** in the stuff should stay quiet. You ought to know that it is going to be balanced sooner or later.
It's more fun to see them throw tantrums about their space wangs being nerfed. |
Cheekything
Black Lance
Executive Outcomes
56
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:01:00 -
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One minor change and it'll be nearly perfect.
Increase Fighter Bomber Prices, current ones are far too cheap.
Fighter = > 15 mill => Similar Stats to a Tier 4 cruiser
Fighter Bomber => 20 mill => Similar Stats to a Tier 3 battleship. |
Svennig
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
6
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:02:00 -
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Baron vonDoom wrote:Don't nerf fighters - they're fine.
Gonna keep quoting the truth until someone at CCP recognises it. Might be here a while  |
kralz
Angelus.Mortis
RED.Legion
4
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:03:00 -
[615] - Quote
Renan Ruivo wrote:People who buy obvioulsy unbalanced stuff because of the unbalanced **** in the stuff should stay quiet. You ought to know that it is going to be balanced sooner or later.
HAAAA ur smoking crack bro. people who fly broken lame stuff are stupid for wasting time to train it.
people who train to fly stuff that is awesome actually LOOKED INTO WHAT THEY WERE TRAINING...only to have years of training ruined because lame ass loosers very much like youself who cannot hang with some super cap pilots ruining their day
1st time i got hot dropped i laughted i died so fast...and decided THATS HAT I WANNA DO with MY life. cuz it works
its mean
its moral jarring to know that i can drop 26 million hit points on u and **** ur skull off with 20 fighters and u cant do nothing about it.
people do whats effective. and people who cant do it like me cry about it.
still i challenge CCP to not be ******** and nerf carriers like they intend. and i challenge u to try and get one. u might actually like not being a looser. |
JuGGeR
Phantom Squad
Atlas.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:04:00 -
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only have 1 small hope that maby could be added , docking of supers , since they utter bullcrap after this patch , plz give us the option to drop em in a hangar so we can reprocess and build something usefull from em ...
and also thanks for clearing out some of me accounts .. keep it up , saves me more and more money on subs.
o/ |
Silence iKillYouu
The Innocent Criminals
7
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:12:00 -
[617] - Quote
Everyone will be unsubbing there cap alts.
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Akara Ito
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:14:00 -
[618] - Quote
Silence iKillYouu wrote:Everyone will be unsubbing there cap alts.
90 % of them will resub them as soon as they see caps are still wanted.
As for Supercaps, well thats an unconventional way to reduce their numbers, but it seems to work. :tinfoil: |
Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:22:00 -
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A few of the changes aren't what we expected and a few expected are not there, but whatever. As long as you have changed your internal process to enable frequent rebalancing when something is patently not working or the fotm is dominating.
Supercarriers
- consider the Revenant solution of +1 per level and buff the damage and h.p. to balance. Less fighter bombers on grid in mass battles is good and brings the Drone Control Unit back into play in pve as each one becomes a +10% buff rather than their current +5% buff which again puts pressure on pilots at their fittings choices.
- consider leveling down the nyx slightly relative to the wyvern and aeon and leveling up the Hel. The difference in popularity between nyx and hel is a balance issue.
Titans
- gun stats, both tracking speed and signature resolution need looked at .. consider the titan blob and how its power scales
- leviathan's weapons
Capital force and logistics projection
- consider a five minute limitation on consecutive cyno jumps - slow down capital travel - my jump freighter and capitals can get to the other side of the map very fast indeed - make space bigger
- capital fuel consumption - consider scaling it much more viciously so that supercap fleets literally need jump freighters and rorqals following them with more fuel
- consider reducing the supercarrier and titan carrying capacity for fuel - again make force projection harder for us - eve is too small |
Bluemelon
Polaris Rising
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:22:00 -
[620] - Quote
All I am gonna say is, this is a massive **** you to the older players who have earnt their isk without RMT'ing and being whiny faggots.
Titans can be killed by 90 Hurricanes. Simple. They are balanced. Supers, are not. If I choose to put my titan stationary and in a system for 10mins for doomsdaying a ******* loki, thats my choice.
Stupid change |
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rodyas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:30:00 -
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kralz wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:People who buy obvioulsy unbalanced stuff because of the unbalanced **** in the stuff should stay quiet. You ought to know that it is going to be balanced sooner or later. HAAAA ur smoking crack bro. people who fly broken lame stuff are stupid for wasting time to train it. people who train to fly stuff that is awesome actually LOOKED INTO WHAT THEY WERE TRAINING...only to have years of training ruined because lame ass loosers very much like youself who cannot hang with some super cap pilots ruining their day 1st time i got hot dropped i laughted i died so fast...and decided THATS HAT I WANNA DO with MY life. cuz it works its mean its moral jarring to know that i can drop 26 million hit points on u and **** ur skull off with 20 fighters and u cant do nothing about it. people do whats effective. and people who cant do it like me cry about it. still i challenge CCP to not be ******** and nerf carriers like they intend. and i challenge u to try and get one. u might actually like not being a looser.
Man thank god this nerf went through now. So many faggots I didnt know existed, just so happy they are finally being dealt with and flushed away. So many retards being helped out with this nerf. So glad |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:31:00 -
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Because CCP Devs play league of Legends more than they play Eve Online. Ask the Devs of LOL how CCP Devs being in LOL`s League of Developers server is working out ?
xxxak wrote:After further thought, I am more and more disturbed that a super carrier cannot carry a full flight of fighters and FB.
Can a Dev explain why this was considered necessary?
<-áI believe he is right > Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Dr Cedric
Orbital Industry and Research.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:34:00 -
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So, this might be better in FnI, but here goes anyway...
Super carriers hold fighters and fighter bombers...they are the "damage dealers" in the capital class. I've not flown one, nor have I been blown up by one. I can't say what effect the changes to SC drone bay and fighter sig resolution will have. However, people seem to be saying that nerfing fighters will affect Carriers.
Long story short:
Make the carriers Drone boats with a vengeance, make SC's fighter boats (with or without the vengeance)
For example:
Change carrier bonus from "Can deploy 1 additional Fighter or Drone per level" to "Can deploy 3 additional Drones per level."
It would seem that the SC bonus is changing from "Can deploy 3 additional Fighters, Fighter Bombers or Drones per level" to " Can deploy 3 additional Fighters or Fighter bombers per level."
I think this gives each class a niche by allowing carriers to be the "poor man's" super carrier, and give more options for DPS in a Capital fleet that does not involve Titans and SC's.
We'll see, This is just my idea!
Ced |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
Universal Consortium
5
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:37:00 -
[624] - Quote
Yaaaaaaaay'z!
(I <3ulots CCP)
But yes, please do make an exception for Chribba's Veldnaught as long as it remains in his possession, and is flown by him. |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:40:00 -
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" Welpfleet " is a term used for psycological purposes. It means we are going to fail so accept defeat with a smile. Keeps their soldiers happy when they do lose a whole fleet. When they win and kill a fleet they recieve cudos as they were suppose to lose.
It is an acceptance of failure. It is a very smart tactic. Although it can only last between 3 to 5 weeks at a time before the loud voices ( whiney rejects / turbulant spys ) drown out the mantra.
David Carel wrote:Tokino Kaalakiota wrote:Mittani and the rest of the "supercap blob" whiners can go cry themselves to sleep while smart individuals can make use of existing tactics to counter supercap blobs I recommend you to look up "Welpfleet" and the distribution of supers; it would be nice if you had a clue before posting.
<-áI believe he is right > Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Anile8er
Origin.
Black Legion.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:40:00 -
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Cheekything wrote:One minor change and it'll be nearly perfect.
Increase Fighter Bomber Prices, current ones are far too cheap.
Fighter = > 15 mill => Similar Stats to a Tier 4 cruiser
Fighter Bomber => 20 mill => Similar Stats to a Tier 3 battleship.
If my fighter bombers can hit a tier 3 BS I would agree with you. |
Gevlin
SMANews.net
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:40:00 -
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RORQUAL now has the strongest Set of Drones in the GAME!!!!
I am so going to PWN You all!! |
Samanta Raiolaser
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:43:00 -
[628] - Quote
2 things that I've found hilarious:
- Pilots saying "adapt or die" to supercap heavy alliances. When CCP adjusted supercaps the way they are today all you did was bawawawaw cry. The truth is "adapt or cry" huh?
- CCP Tallest said: "If you want to deal with sub-capitals, you should bring your own sub-capitals or a carrier." We have been saying for quite some time, dear biased Dev: "If you want to deal with super-capitals, you should bring your own super-capitals or dreads".
But asking 6000 goons to put some "effort" it's too much, right? Lets just nerf-it to the ground and make Soundwave and Mittens happy.
GG
Flame away
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Kari Kari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:52:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Kari Kari wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:If you enjoyed these changes and things happening to spaceships IN SPACE I guerantee you'll love the rest of the stuff we have lined up for winter Keep an eye out for the blogs. Already cancelled all other subscriptions since EVE and CCP has gone to total sh**! no one cares about obvious alt posts. you will still be here and you will still be flying your caps. Quit your whining and get back to farming out your 0.0 space.
Actually dips*** I will not be already gave most of my assets away to friends. So your intelligence level is pretty low... CCP LOW! |
kralz
Angelus.Mortis
RED.Legion
7
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:52:00 -
[630] - Quote
Samanta Raiolaser wrote:2 things that I've found hilarious:
- Pilots saying "adapt or die" to supercap heavy alliances. When CCP adjusted supercaps the way they are today all you did was bawawawaw cry. The truth is "adapt or cry" huh?
- CCP Tallest said: "If you want to deal with sub-capitals, you should bring your own sub-capitals or a carrier." We have been saying for quite some time, dear biased Dev: "If you want to deal with super-capitals, you should bring your own super-capitals or dreads".
But asking 6000 goons to put some "effort" it's too much, right? Lets just nerf-it to the ground and make Soundwave and Mittens happy.
GG
Flame away
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