So, these threads appear to be abandoned by CCP?

? This post makes no sense unless it's a troll....

Hyperion is better in pretty much every imaginable way than it was before... dual rep tank with ions and dual heavy cap injectors now fits... Dps overall is higher due to extra low and and the extra 25m3 of bandwidth... If anything the Hyperion is a bit too strong atm.

just looking at the changes comeing in im probly not gona be flying Gallan for a long time

i dont fear changed before someone screams that i just dont like the direction the change is heading in and geting told it will be better when from what i can see atm its gona be "renderd" less than other races ships in overall performance

only bright side of this is the cost of the ships will drop a lot due to the shear amount of suck added to em so i guess you can get a cheep giggle on susideing em

just looking at the changes comeing in im probly not gona be flying Gallan for a long time

i dont fear changed before someone screams that i just dont like the direction the change is heading in and geting told it will be better when from what i can see atm its gona be "renderd" less than other races ships in overall performance

only bright side of this is the cost of the ships will drop a lot due to the shear amount of suck added to em so i guess you can get a cheep giggle on susideing em

This.


Just because a ship has a bonus doesn't mean you HAVE TO use it.


Also i hate how everyone and their mother has this annoying desire to shield tank every ship in the game. Really stop that.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with buffer armor tanks, only active armor tanking, and this is also true for all active tanks which are not oversized ASBs.

Yep, I agree. Oversized ASBs is about the correct level for active tanks, but they shouldn't be cap immune.

Strategies need to be viable and counterable.

Yep, I agree. Oversized ASBs is about the correct level for active tanks, but they shouldn't be cap immune.

Strategies need to be viable and counterable.

They are not IMMUNE. They are more resilient. They are immune for like 20 seconds.. then they are VERY cap hungry .

I think CCP nerfed ASB wrongly. THey should not have changed their stats... they should have limited in 1 per ship.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with buffer armor tanks, only active armor tanking, and this is also true for all active tanks which are not oversized ASBs.

They are counterable, you can't perma run them because of the charges. The problem is you can hold close to one hundred cap boosters if I'm not mistaken in BS's.

You can't affect the tank with neuts = neut immunity.

ExAstra, the reason why you see the Mega as plated ship is because active armor tanking isn't fixed yet.

And the reason I see active(hybrid) tanking the Mega as a possible option is because it's partly fixed.

1600mm+LAAR fit looks like it could almost work, after they finally buff the repper base rep amounts, reduce the cap drain and cycle time, a T2 LAAR will work. We're not talking about dramatic changes, 5-10% and it's go.

What if the bonus to rep amount was changed to a bonus to cycle time to further lower the absurdly long cycle compared to the amount repaired.

if the rep time was upped the cap demand would also increas and make it even harder to keep feed

end result would be it would be easyer to nut out than it is atm

Dominix:

With the Dominix we've abandoned the split weapon bonus (hybrids and drones) and moved it to a fully dedicated drone ship by adding a drone optimal and tracking bonus. We hope that this new bonus will provide a very strong Gallente fleet option in the Dominix, via sentry drones. It will of course also be stronger at short range using heavy drones. As a combat battleship, its received increased hitpoints across the board, increased mass (it got its mass lowered during the hybrid buff), increased cap pool, and increased sig.

We believe this is a very exciting direction for the Dominix, and hope you will too!

I also want to mention here that while the drone system overall needs looking at, we here on the balance team have some short term ideas for helping the usability of sentry drones GÇô no timeframe on them as of yet, but its something we have in mind.

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonuses:
+10% Drone Damage and Drone hitpoints
+10% Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed (replaces large hybrid turret damage)

Slot layout: 6H, 5M, 7L; 6 turrets , 0 launchers
Fittings: 10000 PWG(+1000), 600 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7200(+1731) / 8000(+1789) / 8500(+1859)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 6000(+1000) / 1087s / 5.51
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 109 / .1254 / 100250000(+3150000) / 16.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 375
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km / 90 / 7
Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 465(+45)

I like the Domi Changes, but i still feel like its being obsoleted by the Armageddon with its changes, there isnt really any niche that puts the Domi in competition of it, i think that giving it another bonus to increase the number of drones controlled by 1 per leveand increase the bay size to 400m3 and bandwidth to 250MBit and drop the turret hard points to 2 and 1 high slot for a low. So like the following.
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonuses:
+10% Drone Damage and Drone hitpoints
+10% Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed (replaces large hybrid turret damage)
(+1 Drone Controlled per level)

Slot layout: 5H(-1), 5M, 8L(+1); 2 turrets(-4) , 0 launchers
Fittings: 10000 PWG(+1000), 600 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7200(+1731) / 8000(+1789) / 8500(+1859)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 6000(+1000) / 1087s / 5.51
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 109 / .1254 / 100250000(+3150000) / 16.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 250(+125) / 400(+25)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km / 90 / 7
Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 465(+45)

What do you guys think?

EDIT: reduce CPU by 10% and increase Power-grid by 25%.

They are counterable, you can't perma run them because of the charges. The problem is you can hold close to one hundred cap boosters if I'm not mistaken in BS's.

You can't affect the tank with neuts = neut immunity.

ExAstra, the reason why you see the Mega as plated ship is because active armor tanking isn't fixed yet.

And the reason I see active(hybrid) tanking the Mega as a possible option is because it's partly fixed.

1600mm+LAAR fit looks like it could almost work, after they finally buff the repper base rep amounts, reduce the cap drain and cycle time, a T2 LAAR will work. We're not talking about dramatic changes, 5-10% and it's go.

You can affectt he tank. because you stop the hardeners. ASB are only RESILENT to neuts. Not immune.

just looking at the changes comeing in im probly not gona be flying Gallan for a long time

i dont fear changed before someone screams that i just dont like the direction the change is heading in and geting told it will be better when from what i can see atm its gona be "renderd" less than other races ships in overall performance

only bright side of this is the cost of the ships will drop a lot due to the shear amount of suck added to em so i guess you can get a cheep giggle on susideing em

I like the Domi Changes, but i still feel like its being obsoleted by the Armageddon with its changes, there isnt really any niche that puts the Domi in competition of it, i think that giving it another bonus to increase the number of drones controlled by 1 per leveand increase the bay size to 400m3 and bandwidth to 250MBit and drop the turret hard points to 2 and 1 high slot for a low. So like the following.
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonuses:
+10% Drone Damage and Drone hitpoints
+10% Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed (replaces large hybrid turret damage)
(+1 Drone Controlled per level)

Slot layout: 5H(-1), 5M, 8L(+1); 2 turrets(-4) , 0 launchers
Fittings: 10000 PWG(+1000), 600 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7200(+1731) / 8000(+1789) / 8500(+1859)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 6000(+1000) / 1087s / 5.51
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 109 / .1254 / 100250000(+3150000) / 16.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 250(+125) / 400(+25)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km / 90 / 7
Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric Sensor Strength
Signature radius: 465(+45)

What do you guys think?

EDIT: reduce CPU by 10% and increase Power-grid by 25%.

ASBs are pretty much spot on. If you use a single one, it's really just a slowly working LSE with higher max HP and similiar interaction with the minmatar SB-Bonus as the passive resist bonus granted to other races' ships. Now with resistances being mildly tunes downwards, SB-bonused ships might finally create more EHP than a comparable resist-bonused set-up.
Anyways, wether using two ASBs to create an active tank, or cap booster + SB to create a tank having less peak, more sustain are equally valid choices. ASB ships - unless you don't kill the container they are getting charges from - are running out of time incredibly quickly. I personally don't see much wrong with the current state of ASBs.

Hybrid tanking the mega though is incredibly appealing, mounting a plate and a repper that you can stick between two eanms or so, making up for very long OH-durations. For 80 more mil, you even get a c-type that you can use overheated with an exile boost for ages, in supersmallscale/solo-scenarios imo the smarter choice over a second plate.