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Lloyd Roses
Risk-Averse PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
53
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Posted - 2013.04.23 12:31:00 -
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ExAstra wrote:All level 5 Dominix with 5 Garde IIs (no OTLs) still had a hard time hitting a double webbed Broadsword at 50km.
I was kinda disappointed, actually.
Your skills must be terrible... We use sentry-ishtars for station-games, and they got no issues hitting non-webbed battleships at 30. That is without 50% tracking bonus. |

Omnathious Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
920
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Posted - 2013.04.23 13:28:00 -
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Grunnax Aurelius wrote:CCP Rise wrote:Dominix:
With the Dominix we've abandoned the split weapon bonus (hybrids and drones) and moved it to a fully dedicated drone ship by adding a drone optimal and tracking bonus. We hope that this new bonus will provide a very strong Gallente fleet option in the Dominix, via sentry drones. It will of course also be stronger at short range using heavy drones. As a combat battleship, its received increased hitpoints across the board, increased mass (it got its mass lowered during the hybrid buff), increased cap pool, and increased sig.
We believe this is a very exciting direction for the Dominix, and hope you will too!
I also want to mention here that while the drone system overall needs looking at, we here on the balance team have some short term ideas for helping the usability of sentry drones GÇô no timeframe on them as of yet, but its something we have in mind.
Gallente Battleship Skill Bonuses: +10% Drone Damage and Drone hitpoints +10% Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed (replaces large hybrid turret damage)
Slot layout: 6H, 5M, 7L; 6 turrets , 0 launchers Fittings: 10000 PWG(+1000), 600 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7200(+1731) / 8000(+1789) / 8500(+1859) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 6000(+1000) / 1087s / 5.51 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 109 / .1254 / 100250000(+3150000) / 16.88s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 375 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km / 90 / 7 Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric Sensor Strength Signature radius: 465(+45) I like the Domi Changes, but i still feel like its being obsoleted by the Armageddon with its changes, there isnt really any niche that puts the Domi in competition of it, i think that giving it another bonus to increase the number of drones controlled by 1 per leveand increase the bay size to 400m3 and bandwidth to 250MBit and drop the turret hard points to 2 and 1 high slot for a low. So like the following. Gallente Battleship Skill Bonuses: +10% Drone Damage and Drone hitpoints +10% Drone optimal range and Drone tracking speed (replaces large hybrid turret damage) (+1 Drone Controlled per level) Slot layout: 5H(-1), 5M, 8L(+1); 2 turrets(-4) , 0 launchers Fittings: 10000 PWG(+1000), 600 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 7200(+1731) / 8000(+1789) / 8500(+1859) Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second) : 6000(+1000) / 1087s / 5.51 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 109 / .1254 / 100250000(+3150000) / 16.88s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 250(+125) / 400(+25) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km / 90 / 7 Sensor strength: 22 Magnetometric Sensor Strength Signature radius: 465(+45) What do you guys think? EDIT: reduce CPU by 10% and increase Power-grid by 25%. OP as hell.
The only ship I might be able to imagine CCP allowing to get the coveted (+1 Drone Control Per Level) is the Navy Dominix, though many would be opposed to that ship changing at all. I could possibly see them doing this *Navy Dominix* +1 Drone Control Per Level +10% Drone Tracking and HP Bandwidth 250 Drone Bay 750m3 Ideas For Drone Improvement Updated 11/30/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |

Marxzo Andoun
EVE University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.04.23 13:51:00 -
[2133] - Quote
Omnathious Deninard wrote: The only ship I might be able to imagine CCP allowing to get the coveted (+1 Drone Control Per Level) is the Navy Dominix, though many would be opposed to that ship changing at all. I could possibly see them doing this *Navy Dominix* +1 Drone Control Per Level +10% Drone Tracking and HP Bandwidth 250 Drone Bay 750m3
Subtract tracking bonus and playing with turret slots if need be from this (in addition to the EHP and fitting numbers for reg) would get you at a reasonable vanilla Domi.
The argument I'm seeing here is that it's too "shiny" a bonus which is pretty subjective considering a large number of ship hulls used to be able to do this way back.
The question we are unable to answer from our perspective is whether after 8 years the server load would still be an issue. If so, larger damage/utility bonus could be applied to drones while still capping at 5. |

ExAstra
Echoes of Silence Kraken.
27
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Posted - 2013.04.23 15:34:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:ExAstra wrote:All level 5 Dominix with 5 Garde IIs (no OTLs) still had a hard time hitting a double webbed Broadsword at 50km.
I was kinda disappointed, actually. Your skills must be terrible... We use sentry-ishtars for station-games, and they got no issues hitting non-webbed battleships at 30. That is without 50% tracking bonus. 1) My skills are all level 5 (any and all related to the drones). Please read. 2) You were hitting battleships, not a Broadsword (well gee that's 1/4 the sig and slow as hell to start with). Please read. Save the drones! |

Bigg Gun
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.04.24 05:11:00 -
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Save the DOMI !!!! Do not remove the hybrid bonus or else you'll only see projectile domies
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Fade Azura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
136
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Posted - 2013.04.24 09:46:00 -
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as a dedicated dominix pilot for last several years i have to say these changes are crap ... i am going to quit for good if you ruin my ship with this crap... the double damage bonus is great and the main reason i fly it and the only reason i trained up my drone skills, large railgun spec and gallente battleship to 5.
and none of these changes will help gallente battleships its making them all worse.
I sure do hope your offering a refund for gallente trained skills in conjunction with these changes or you can kiss my accounts goodbye.
if it isnt broke dont fix it ... if it is broke then fix it right.
The dominix isnt broken its just fine but this change will ruin it.
the mega and hype are subpar and useless in fleets and that will not change with these changes it will only magnify it .... so again what are you guys doing or thinking over there?
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
174
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Posted - 2013.04.24 09:58:00 -
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Fade Azura wrote:as a dedicated dominix pilot for last several years i have to say these changes are crap ... i am going to quit for good if you ruin my ship with this crap... the double damage bonus is great and the main reason i fly it and the only reason i trained up my drone skills, large railgun spec and gallente battleship to 5.
and none of these changes will help gallente battleships its making them all worse.
I sure do hope your offering a refund for gallente trained skills in conjunction with these changes or you can kiss my accounts goodbye.
if it isnt broke dont fix it ... if it is broke then fix it right.
The dominix isnt broken its just fine but this change will ruin it.
the mega and hype are subpar and useless in fleets and that will not change with these changes it will only magnify it .... so again what are you guys doing or thinking over there?
are you nuts? The mega and the hyperion are borderline broken now. Much more powerful than they used to be! |

Fade Azura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
136
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:22:00 -
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let me explain what your doing wrong ccp
CCP-With the Hyperion moving to more of a combat/utility ship via its drones .......
wtf we already got a combat utility in the dominix and we dont need some crap regurgitated hyperion to fulfill this ....
CCP-we felt the mega could now afford to move towards a completely dedicated gun boat
umm the mega was already a dedicated gunboat ... blasters specifically ... taking away its drones doesnt change anything ... this change is just exchanging some dps numbers and making the ship use more cap which is one its main flaws already
CCP-With the Dominix we've abandoned the split weapon bonus (hybrids and drones)
why would you do this since noone complained about it and everyone loves it the way it is? this is an unnedded change. the dominix is a great combat utility ship as it is stop trying to swap its roles with hyperion
CCP-We hope that this new bonus will provide a very strong Gallente fleet option in the Dominix, via sentry drones
the gallente fleet options do no lie in sentry drones optimal or tracking they lie in you making the other useless gallente ship viable.
this is what you need to do to make gallente viable in fleets and not **** alot of people off using domi's already.
Hyperion- 7.5% hybrid rof bonus and 7.5% to Hybrid optimal range per level (this will make it a good mix between dmg and application for blasters using null and rails with antimatter)
this would be the armor version of the rokh favoring dmg over tank basically and would possibly see fleet representation .. much more so than the proposed version. maybe streamline the slot layout to favor this as well.
Megathron- 5% hybrid dmg bonus 5% increased armor amount per level
Gallente version of abbaddon dmg bonus instead of ROF bonus means it wont be so cap hungry. bonuses suggest fleet representation in armor fleets due to nice buffer ... should fit in well with armor doctrines using blasters or rails. adjust slots if needed accordingly.
Dominix- its just fine leave it ... its the best utility ship in the game by far already
fix things right dont re-break stuff for no reason.
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Fade Azura
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
136
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Posted - 2013.04.24 10:29:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Fade Azura wrote:as a dedicated dominix pilot for last several years i have to say these changes are crap ... i am going to quit for good if you ruin my ship with this crap... the double damage bonus is great and the main reason i fly it and the only reason i trained up my drone skills, large railgun spec and gallente battleship to 5.
and none of these changes will help gallente battleships its making them all worse.
I sure do hope your offering a refund for gallente trained skills in conjunction with these changes or you can kiss my accounts goodbye.
if it isnt broke dont fix it ... if it is broke then fix it right.
The dominix isnt broken its just fine but this change will ruin it.
the mega and hype are subpar and useless in fleets and that will not change with these changes it will only magnify it .... so again what are you guys doing or thinking over there?
are you nuts? The mega and the hyperion are borderline broken now. Much more powerful than they used to be!
yeah i said they were crap basically and all these changes due to these 2 ships is the equivalent of shining up a turd ... it may look a bit nice but they are still gunna be crap and changes dont address the problems and dont fix anything and they are friggin pissing all over the domi with these changes. |

Bigg Gun
Flying Bags Inc. Bulgarian Space Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 11:38:00 -
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fleet domis are gonna be what : a mjd, sensor booster , 6 x 1400, and sentries? God a non moving fleet, which s#its drones. Yes I can see the Domi is the new fleet ship alright.
hyperion is better btw. mega is missing it's high slot , drones bandwidth and uses more cap so worse, with it's 8 lows i expect even more brick mentality.
I feel like they took from the mega and gave to the hyperion - why did they need to take from mega I do not know. |

Drake Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
143
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:02:00 -
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Would it be too much to ask for a higher damage bonus to maintain the difference between gallente and amarr drone boats? "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."-Vermaak Doe |

Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
69
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Posted - 2013.04.24 12:39:00 -
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Bigg Gun wrote:fleet domis are gonna be what : a mjd, sensor booster , 6 x 1400, and sentries? God a non moving fleet, which s#its drones. Yes I can see the Domi is the new fleet ship alright.
hyperion is better btw. mega is missing it's high slot , drones bandwidth and uses more cap so worse, with it's 8 lows i expect even more brick mentality.
I feel like they took from the mega and gave to the hyperion - why did they need to take from mega I do not know.
at least the domi cannot fir 1400mm T2 because of powergrid :P |

Jerick Ludhowe
J temp corp
426
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:09:00 -
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Bigg Gun wrote:fleet domis are gonna be what : a mjd, sensor booster , 6 x 1400, and sentries? God a non moving fleet, which s#its drones. Yes I can see the Domi is the new fleet ship alright.
hyperion is better btw. mega is missing it's high slot , drones bandwidth and uses more cap so worse, with it's 8 lows i expect even more brick mentality.
I feel like they took from the mega and gave to the hyperion - why did they need to take from mega I do not know.
Mega is better than it was in almost all situations. The loss of a nuet in the high does have a negative effect however the cap issues that people often claim are "game breaking" are really rather insignificant. A single heavy cap booster is way more than enough to run your guns and your mwd. As for it's dps... A larger portion of it is in guns rather than drones and with the 8th low a 3rd mag stab can be fit onto the standard plater fit. This means that the post change mega will be doing like 70+ dps compared to current mega and a couple hundred more gun dps. Gun dps is > than heavy drone dps for multiple reasons, namely overheat, and lack of travel time. Only thing the current mega proposal could use is another 25m3 drone bay, after that, there should be no complaints beyond fruitless whiners.
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Jame Jarl Retief
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
1075
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:21:00 -
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I'll just leave this here: Gallente are a primary drone race? Look at the new Dominix. Now look at the new Armageddon. Now back at the Dominix. Get it?
And removing hybrid bonus from Dominix is fine and well. Except of course it totally breaks the progression. Frigate droneboat is hybrids/drones. Destroyer drone boat is hybrids/drones. Cruiser drone boat is hybrids/drones. Battleship drone boat is drones and...drumroll please...projectiles! That's right, say it with me, pro-jec-tiles. Did you not learn with Myrmidon? |

Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
69
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Posted - 2013.04.24 13:43:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:I'll just leave this here: Gallente are a primary drone race? Look at the new Dominix. Now look at the new Armageddon. Now back at the Dominix. Get it?
And removing hybrid bonus from Dominix is fine and well. Except of course it totally breaks the progression. Frigate droneboat is hybrids/drones. Destroyer drone boat is hybrids/drones. Cruiser drone boat is hybrids/drones. Battleship drone boat is drones and...drumroll please...projectiles! That's right, say it with me, pro-jec-tiles. Did you not learn with Myrmidon?
Projectiles.. or tachyons with NOS :P At least the dominix will be able to feed the tachyons that the apoc cannot :P |

Jizzmaster Mckenzie
Az'Suran Nation
16
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:12:00 -
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A 108 page threadnaught, and CCP Rise has not returned.
Can we have at least an acknowledgement from someone on Dev team that they are still thinking about Gallente BS? Or is it a done deal?
I really hope not. The new Sentrinix is awful  |

Cearain
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
877
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:26:00 -
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I'm not sure how more optimal would work for anyone who uses combat drones instead of sentries. Perhaps add some more speed to the drones themselves as well as tracking like the algos. Maybe mwd and normal speed boost. I think the geddons ability to drain cap is just better than what the domi offers. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
182
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:33:00 -
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Jizzmaster Mckenzie wrote:A 108 page threadnaught, and CCP Rise has not returned. Can we have at least an acknowledgement from someone on Dev team that they are still thinking about Gallente BS? Or is it a done deal? I really hope not. The new Sentrinix is awful 
He has returned int he amarr thread. You cannot hope him to return to all 4 threads. You need to check each one always.
PERSONNALY I like the sentrynix. But i can agree that the bonuses are very pingeonholing it and that may make a lot of people unhappy. |

Dilbert HighSeed
Pirannha Corp
1
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:50:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Jizzmaster Mckenzie wrote:A 108 page threadnaught, and CCP Rise has not returned. Can we have at least an acknowledgement from someone on Dev team that they are still thinking about Gallente BS? Or is it a done deal? I really hope not. The new Sentrinix is awful  He has returned int he amarr thread. You cannot hope him to return to all 4 threads. You need to check each one always. PERSONNALY I like the sentrynix. But i can agree that the bonuses are very pingeonholing it and that may make a lot of people unhappy.
The Dominix will be a solid mission boat, except of course against Explosive, as always. The Navy Domi will be an AWESOME mission boat, assuming it gets the same bonuses as the standard flavour version. The Navy Domi MIGHT be an solid Incursion boat.
But the PvP Domi will be a piece of junk compared to the Geddon, or the Mega, or maybe even the Hyperion. Why would anyone fly a Domi as anything but a Sentry alpha doctrine boat. And the Navy Vexor will fill that role, albeit at a much shorter range. But I would take a much more agile, and likely cheaper Navy Vexor over the Domi in that role.
Plus, given that Sentry drones have a 4 second lag before firing, now we are looking at something like 9-12 seconds of time from the start of a Domi locking to damage being applied to a cruiser hull. That would be rather useless in anything other that large stationary fleets engaged in massive fights. |

Marxzo Andoun
EVE University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.04.24 14:56:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:
The Dominix will be a solid mission boat, except of course against Explosive, as always. The Navy Domi will be an AWESOME mission boat, assuming it gets the same bonuses as the standard flavour version. The Navy Domi MIGHT be an solid Incursion boat.
But the PvP Domi will be a piece of junk compared to the Geddon, or the Mega, or maybe even the Hyperion. Why would anyone fly a Domi as anything but a Sentry alpha doctrine boat. And the Navy Vexor will fill that role, albeit at a much shorter range. But I would take a much more agile, and likely cheaper Navy Vexor over the Domi in that role.
Plus, given that Sentry drones have a 4 second lag before firing, now we are looking at something like 9-12 seconds of time from the start of a Domi locking to damage being applied to a cruiser hull. That would be rather useless in anything other that large stationary fleets engaged in massive fights.
Yeah, the Sentrynix is the ultimate AFK ratter. Is that exciting to you? |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction Whores in space
184
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Posted - 2013.04.24 15:02:00 -
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Dilbert HighSeed wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Jizzmaster Mckenzie wrote:A 108 page threadnaught, and CCP Rise has not returned. Can we have at least an acknowledgement from someone on Dev team that they are still thinking about Gallente BS? Or is it a done deal? I really hope not. The new Sentrinix is awful  He has returned int he amarr thread. You cannot hope him to return to all 4 threads. You need to check each one always. PERSONNALY I like the sentrynix. But i can agree that the bonuses are very pingeonholing it and that may make a lot of people unhappy. The Dominix will be a solid mission boat, except of course against Explosive, as always. The Navy Domi will be an AWESOME mission boat, assuming it gets the same bonuses as the standard flavour version. The Navy Domi MIGHT be an solid Incursion boat. But the PvP Domi will be a piece of junk compared to the Geddon, or the Mega, or maybe even the Hyperion. Why would anyone fly a Domi as anything but a Sentry alpha doctrine boat. And the Navy Vexor will fill that role, albeit at a much shorter range. But I would take a much more agile, and likely cheaper Navy Vexor over the Domi in that role. Plus, given that Sentry drones have a 4 second lag before firing, now we are looking at something like 9-12 seconds of time from the start of a Domi locking to damage being applied to a cruiser hull. That would be rather useless in anything other that large stationary fleets engaged in massive fights.
You know what would be a great dominix bonus? 10% per level extra remote armor repair :) Dominix woudl become a VERY powerful spider tanking battleship....
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Jovat
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.04.24 18:54:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote: You know what would be a great dominix bonus? 10% per level extra remote armor repair :) Dominix woudl become a VERY powerful spider tanking battleship....
It doesn't need that to be a powerful spider tanking battleship. Changes to dominix are good. People are freaking about about nothing. -12% DPS in the absolute worst case, but much more tank, more grid, and more applied drone dps.
The gank boat with 2000 dps now does 1750 dps, oh noes, but has nearly twice the tank.
Most other fits, the rails, lasers, projectiles, RR, neut, smartbomb, get more powerful, and more unexpected.
The problems with the domi is drone control range, combat drone speed, and no way to recall sentry drones outside of 2500 meters, and not enough drone bay for 3 flights of heavies and a flight of lights or mediums.
I'd like 425m drone bay, sentry drones that have a mwd to return to the drone bay, and a speed boost to combat drones, but I'm glad the split weapons system that got unused or underutilized on most fits is going away. |

Jovat
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.04.24 19:01:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:I'll just leave this here: Gallente are a primary drone race? Look at the new Dominix. Now look at the new Armageddon. Now back at the Dominix. Get it?
And removing hybrid bonus from Dominix is fine and well. Except of course it totally breaks the progression. Frigate droneboat is hybrids/drones. Destroyer drone boat is hybrids/drones. Cruiser drone boat is hybrids/drones. Battleship drone boat is drones and...drumroll please...projectiles! That's right, say it with me, pro-jec-tiles. Did you not learn with Myrmidon?
Myrms are often fit with autocannons because of falloff and cap... unless you want to do damage and can afford the cap then you use neutrons or pulse lasers as a better brawler or kiter.
Not sure why people think that projectiles are always used on unbonused turrets, because they aren't. Domis will use pulse, rails, neutrons, autocannons or just RR. They wont use 1400s or tachs because they don't have the grid for it. |

Marxzo Andoun
EVE University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.04.24 19:51:00 -
[2154] - Quote
Jovat wrote: It doesn't need that to be a powerful spider tanking battleship. Changes to dominix are good. People are freaking about about nothing. -12% DPS in the absolute worst case, but much more tank, more grid, and more applied drone dps.
The gank boat with 2000 dps now does 1750 dps, oh noes, but has nearly twice the tank.
Most other fits, the rails, lasers, projectiles, RR, neut, smartbomb, get more powerful, and more unexpected.
The problems with the domi is drone control range, combat drone speed, and no way to recall sentry drones outside of 2500 meters, and not enough drone bay for 3 flights of heavies and a flight of lights or mediums.
I'd like 425m drone bay, sentry drones that have a mwd to return to the drone bay, and a speed boost to combat drones, but I'm glad the split weapons system that got unused or underutilized on most fits is going away.
So you really brought up a laser domi... and smartbombing *droneboat* domi as valid arguments?
You seem to be looking at just numbers as a result of tiericide without thinking what it means for picking a ship to bring to battle, barring the RR domi which is actually somewhat interesting.
Why would anyone sit in station and fit up a Domi for anything other than sentry sniping given all the other ships that would fill the roles you listed above? Humor value?
Be practical if you want to be taken seriously. |

Django Askulf
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.04.24 19:52:00 -
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Not a single Gallante BS that can fit a full rack of 8 anymore with the proposed changes. Bonus's aside, it was nice to have that as an option. In my opinion. |

Tom Guhl
1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 21:10:00 -
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Django Askulf wrote:Not a single Gallante BS that can fit a full rack of 8 anymore with the proposed changes. Bonus's aside, it was nice to have that as an option. In my opinion.
Would think ships would get roles, not an entire race. Dont like drones?......too bad..find another race to fly. Because the Catalyst, Thorax, Brutix, Talos, Megathron etc. are so drone dependent.
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Bouh Revetoile
TIPIAKS
307
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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:06:00 -
[2157] - Quote
Marxzo Andoun wrote:Why would anyone sit in station and fit up a Domi for anything other than sentry sniping given all the other ships that would fill the roles you listed above? Humor value?
Be practical if you want to be taken seriously. What does the domi won't be able to do the hybrid turret bonus allowed it to do ? |

Django Askulf
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:16:00 -
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Tom Guhl wrote:Django Askulf wrote:Not a single Gallante BS that can fit a full rack of 8 anymore with the proposed changes. Bonus's aside, it was nice to have that as an option. In my opinion.
Would think ships would get roles, not an entire race. Dont like drones?......too bad..find another race to fly. Because the Catalyst, Thorax, Brutix, Talos, Megathron etc. are so drone dependent.
Catalyst, Talos...full rack. Cheap gank, and PVP ships. As I fly. |

Tom Guhl
1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans
3
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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:43:00 -
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Django Askulf wrote:Tom Guhl wrote:Django Askulf wrote:Not a single Gallante BS that can fit a full rack of 8 anymore with the proposed changes. Bonus's aside, it was nice to have that as an option. In my opinion.
Would think ships would get roles, not an entire race. Dont like drones?......too bad..find another race to fly. Because the Catalyst, Thorax, Brutix, Talos, Megathron etc. are so drone dependent. Catalyst, Talos...full rack. Cheap gank, and PVP ships. As I fly. So you've abandoned your point about Gallente being exclusively droneboats? K |

Marxzo Andoun
EVE University Ivy League
14
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Posted - 2013.04.24 22:59:00 -
[2160] - Quote
Bouh Revetoile wrote: What does the domi won't be able to do the hybrid turret bonus allowed it to do ?
I'm actually not hung up on the hybrid bonus, unlike some people. I don't like the new bonus to be so sentry-specific in the state sentries are now. The bonus to non-sentries is extremely minimal - which has already been covered to death in this topic. |
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