No you are the one not soundign OK. THe bhalghron thing i take as a joke. But he is right. Battleships will in 90% of tiem use rigs for endurance or fitting. At least on PVP.

Tornados were NOt created to be snieprs. they were created to be mobile AC boats. the falloff bonus screams that lounder than anything !

THe bhalghron thing i take as a joke.

to make it more interesting for u ccp HERE IS A SUGESTION ..since u gave the armageddon ..NOS bonus and turned it into a mini bhaalgorn / curse ..why not turn the bhaalgorn into a "larger" rapier give it 5% missile rof 7.5 % bonus to target paint / level that way or 7.5 reduction in exp radius / lvl

poor tempest it can't get a break....
tornado considering it has a falloff bonus its odd thats its the best arty user ... answer reduce fittings so can only use AC's

IQs definitely have dropped in the thread. Your answer to the Tempest is to nerf the Tornado so much that it can no longer fit artillery and has to resort to autocannons? And that is one of your more reasonable proposals compared to what you propose to do to the Tornado later in the post..

Also, weren't you the one who was suggesting making projectile weapons use capacitor in the other thread? Lets hope they never let you near ship balancing.

Sad thing is you actually have two people who have liked your post so I guess there is little hope for this thread.

I think IQs just dropped in this thread all of a sudden. Falloff is even more beneficial to snipers than it is to autocannons. Why do you think the Tornado has enough PG to equip a full rack of 1400mm's? And every tier 3 BC can fit a full rack of long range guns. Because of course they were designed to be agile sniper boats, and that is what they quite rightly excel at.

Also now your changing his words to try and support him. He never said anything about fitting rigs, according to him leet pvpers only fit endurance rigs on their ships. They don't care about damage rigs, fitting rigs, energy or electronic rigs, or anything else for that matter. As long as they can sit there like a brick in their logi and capital backed up null fleets then they are leet pvpers.


You are kidding yourself, he is deadly serious, just take a look at what he wrote again


I don't know why you are giving that Test nut job the time of day.

FYI, weapons rigs are just about the poorest type of rig you can use on any ship.

And I think CCP Rises opinion of the tempest is pretty obvious. He knows it's broken but doesn't think the effort of a real fix is worth the aggro of the community generally resistant to change.

It would have been nice if something was done about the horrible slot layout on the Tempest.

LOL..... You want the bhaal, a blood raider ship, to lose its nuet bonuses and be turned into a rapier....? o_o

Please biomass yourself right now.

Ment typhoon -_- that came out wrong ill make sure to fix it lulz ! also your WH living is diferent from actual pvp you fight npc ..while we fight players ..get my point ?

FYI, weapons rigs are just about the poorest type of rig you can use on any ship.

Tempest is looking very good to me, some extra agility and speed would be all it needs now in my view. Perhaps a falloff bonus and combine the damage bonus also to top it off

So basically, a bigger Tornado?


/adds Rebecha Pucontis to the ignore list.

You are starting to derail yourself completely. 1400mm benefits much LESS from falloff than AC> Arties get about 27% of the effect that AC get from same falloff bonus relative to their base effective damage projection. You are the one not using the brain to analyse properly

So basically, a bigger Tornado?

The tempest can fill a role close to tornado.. but it must be MUCH more powerful on part of that role to be useful.

Lol. Ok good to hear you aren't totally crazy then. And anyway, that kind of backs up my point. You sound like the kind of leet Pvper who uses his BS's in massive logi and capital backed fleets. There are other things in Eve other than mindless gigantic fleet battles. I fight in small gang pvp in null sec, WH space, and low sec, and so I'm looking at this from this angle.

Tempest is looking very good to me, some extra agility and speed would be all it needs now in my view. Perhaps a falloff bonus and combine the damage bonus also to top it off. But no change to slot layout.

killboard or it didnt happen and no i prefer smaller ships my self as u can see on my losses unfortunatlly u are still out of your league here u said u do wh stuff and use small stuff so why comment on bs if you dont use it ? simple as that ...last time i used pest was in 2010 was a gazilion time ago but it loved it i said **** it ..ima try it and barelly killed a drake and got out with 20% hull while having a slave set on me ...the ship lacks dps A LOT and i was fighting only a drake and a hurricane and again the bonus u sugested with faloff + rof ...is stupid ...u want a NANO bs with faloff i bring u the machariel ..fly it ..dont sugest turning the pest into one like ccp did with the mini bhaalgorn on the armageddon part

..the ship lacks dps A LOT and i was fighting only a drake and a hurricane and again the bonus u sugested with faloff

Watching CCP Rise at Fanfest is promising! Tempest being expanded in its role as an overgrown battlecruiser, so pretty much the big brother to the hurricane like I was suggesting! \o/ Hopefully some more buffs on the horizon too. DPS please. :)

did he presented anything on stream? I am at work :(

did he presented anything on stream? I am at work :(

He didn't say too much about it, but he did say that the Tempest might be lacking something and they'd be looking at it as things progressed. He also mentioned emphasizing its role as a "big battlecruiser," which sounds promising.

He might want to make it cheaper in that case, and delete the hurricane.

He might want to make it cheaper in that case, and delete the hurricane.