We've been very busy with fanfest and myself with getting these devblogs out the door. We're definitely not done taking feedback on those balance changes.

out of pure curiosity where do you mine

That would involve adapting which is evidently an unthinkable concept, it's only other people who should Adapt Or Die when changes are made.

Much better to sulk and cry on the forums about it instead.

The 4h respawn time means you have plenty of time to relocate, haul stuff around or do ~other things~.

Well that's comforting. At what point before an expansion would you say changes are locked in? A week before? Two weeks?

Feel free to find out.

Adapt. I've always loved that word. Lets all say it... Adapt. Unfortunately, in these forums the word Adapt, is being used as a euphemism for SHUT UP.

I can honestly say that the increased value of low sec ores would have been enough to mine in gravimetric sites, but with them going to anomalies it is still not worth risking you mining barge for.

It's fun to tell the employer he has to adapt so that the player can adapt to the new EvE schedule.

I can honestly say that the increased value of low sec ores would have been enough to mine in gravimetric sites, but with them going to anomalies it is still not worth risking you mining barge for.

agreed, i demand all moneymaking options in game be balanced around my unique schedule rather than various options being better for various schedules

accordingly, i demand a complete rebalance of ratting to accommodate my logging in for 5-10 minutes per day to look at the market

We're quite happy in general with the increased risk associated with the increased reward. Ore sites in lowsec, 0.0 and wormholes (especially lowsec) are getting a whole lot more valuable.

Huh? The Dev blog only mentioned the 0.0 ore: the ABC ores, Gneiss, Spod and Dark Ochre. Nothing was mentioned about the J-H ores that show in low sec.

Look, its really simple. Low sec will never ever be worth mining UNTIL, they place something there that is so valuable that the risk <= reward.

Low sec could benefit from a different form of mining. Perhaps booster gases. You know, a half @ss implemented idea that never got any love after it was introduced into the game. An expansion of an idea that at its core is really good but gets no use because of scarcity, lack of knowledge and ignorance.

Low sec has extra issues with security that are not found in Null Sec. It seems that CCP generally thinks of risk as High -> Low -> Null, which makes it difficult to balance risks and rewards for common activities within Low Sec.

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Which is the fundamental problem. In reality lowsec is more dangerous than null or even wh under certain circumstances. The only exception to this would be the use of bubbles true. But I look at it from an economic danger not purely a ship loss danger. Economically, the risks do not equal the rewards thus it is more dangerous.

It has risks that are not present in sovereign nullsec but most of those are present in NPC null. Really, the only one is you can't anchor defensive bubbles.

you don't have the risk thousands of people will descend on your stations, take them, and lock you out of them and leave you unable to do anything in your space

you don't have the risk thousands of people will descend on your stations, take them, and lock you out of them and leave you unable to do anything in your space

1) The numbers will be out on sisi soon anyways, so I'll go ahead and let you know that the high sec anoms contain 2500 units of their racial isotope ice.

That's small. Really small. I'm quite surprised that's big enough to supply 80% of all the ice products needed by the game.

After the harvester changes a typical miner will get a block every 40 seconds. One miner could drain an anomaly in 100,000 seconds. But there will not be one miner. As anoms pop the miners will travel to wherever there is ice. The result could well be 100 miners in one belt, mining it out in 1000 seconds, or 17 minutes. They then move to the next system and do it again. The result is all these ice systems will have a belt for 17 minutes and be barren for 93% of the time. To me this does not seem like a desirable state of affairs.

Suggestion: The respawn timer starts as soon as any mining takes place. The re-spawn occurs when both the current belt is mined out AND the timer has expired. Result: Its best for miners to spread out and not outmine the respawn timer. If you lengthen the timer to 5 hours (for balance) along with this change, that would be five to six miners per belt.

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We will also be making a significant change to the way hidden asteroid belts will be found by players. We are phasing out the Gravimetric signature category, and instead pilots will be able to find all Ore Sites using their shipGÇÖs built-in anomaly scanning equipment. This change will make finding hidden belts much less difficult for both miners and for those who would prey on them, so pilots are always advised to practice vigilance.

Is this going to effect WH space too? Are you telling me that probes will no longer be needed to hunt miners in wormholes? This makes "practicing vigilance" nearly impossible if true.

Which has been said over and over in this thread with no response.