I dare you to come up with a definition of "passive income" that actually sounds passive and includes moon mining.

Are you joking? I have 5 moon mining pos's. I JF two months worth of fuel for all towers into the system and take the goo out. In the mean time I log on a 2 day alt in a bestower in system once a month to refuel and empty silos. It's pretty well passive.

The only adaptation I can currently make when they move my cheese to null-sec is to quit a job or girlfriend so I have the time to join a corp, get comms situated, figure out the lay of the land, and emergency evac when something I have little control over causes leadership to decide we're now in a new region in a new bloc, and oh by the way, you'll need to get situated on all new comms and forums and auths.

But it is not just moving my cheese, it's also the lack of entertainment value in high-sec. Thus I have adapted by moving to SWTOR and haven't seen a reason to renew my sub which expires in June unless I lose a job/contract. Eve won't miss me, but if I'm any indicator of players' satisfaction with high-sec then God needs to create more PVPers, and fast. Hopefully I'm an anomaly and there will still be an Eve to come back to when I develop the time to be a null-sec resident again. But if I'm typical, that spells bad news until high-sec becomes more entertaining OR worthwhile.

Sorry you are not telling the current Null sec narrative that Moon Mining is not passive income. Therefore you must be lying.

Secondly, those outpost slot increases are off by about one order of magnitude. The design goal should be that if you really max out an indy station, you should have 500GÇô700 manufacturing slotsGǪ even these new numbers aren't nearly enough to get there.

I like the mineral changes and the outpost changes. I don't do much t2 production but I have the skills so I am relatively unimpressed with the T2 moon minning changes.

The Ice belt thing.....Whoever made this decision needs to be taken out to the fishing dock, Wrapped in very heavy chains and pushed off the end.

ARE YOU GUYS F@#%ING RETARD3D!!!!

Skip the whole belt/anomaly thing. Put in frigging non renewable ort clouds. No beacons, just a simple scan down with probes to the edge of the system, as area's get mined out people have to move to new locations. Simple as that. The amount of ice available should never be a reflection of player usage. I think mining belts should be moved to the same method. but lets try it with ice first. Every system should have some sort of ort cloud and there should be multiple types of ice in each. The amount of ice available in each system should be relative to the sec status of each, so 1.0 or .9 systems will have very thin ort clouds and .0 or less will have lots of untapped large ort clouds. The Idea should be how much do the players want to look, NOT how much you think we need. This will also make it harder for anyone to control the flow of ice. Eventually you will force players out in to low and null as the ice belts get thinner. Hell if your going to put anomalies in for ice make them comets so we have to keep pace with the ice chunk.


I know from a technical side adding in a 100k plus object per system could be a pain in the butt, so make it something that gets seeded as players warp to grid or scan down a specific grid and warp to it. If a grid isn't accessed in 30 or 60 days it gets archived till it is scanned down and warped too again. Thus you don't load down your servers too much. I have found that miners are creatures of habit and they will happily work an area dry if they can.

And once these are all used up, there's no cap ships or POSes left because the fuel is so expensive that no one can afford it anymore?

brilliant plan.

COPY AND REPLY TO THIS IF YOU THINK ITS A GOOD IDEA SO THE DEVS WILL TAKE A SERIOUS LOOK AT IT

You won't find any because this expansion is, and looks like those for the foreseeable future, are all about the null sec crowd. CCP's listening to the null sec zealots who scream the loudest on the forums as well as the null dominated CSM. This isn't about balance or simply buffing null, it's about buffing null at the expense of high sec. This is what the zealots have been striving for for years. They want high sec to be a starter area for newbies with only very limited resources so that targets are driven out to low sec and potential worker drones to null.

Hey, high sec is the perfect isk generating, no risk, no skill required paradise. The non-valued suckers, err I mean...subscribers there, don't deserve anything better, right?

Yeah, there are things that are broken with null especially but, why correct those issues on the backs of one particular group of players?

I like the ore yield changes, it'll definitely make nullsec mining profitable and make nullsec production much easier. But lowsec mining will still be pretty worthless, and it's all because Pyroxeres yields too much Nocxium. As long as you're fixing mineral yields, you might as well fix Pyroxeres. It currently yields around half as much Nocxium as Jaspet, Hemorphite, or Hedbergite (Nocxium is pretty much their entire value), but Pyroxeres is available in highsec. It should yield much less Nocxium.

Enough for 45-63 industrialists with perfect skills to perform all available manufacturing jobs 24/7? No, I don't think that's a good idea. Inflate the volume and you deflate the value.

Enough for 45-63 industrialists with perfect skills to perform all available manufacturing jobs 24/7? No, I don't think that's a good idea. Inflate the volume and you deflate the value.

Enough for a single nullsec system to be comparable with a single highsec system. It's an excellent idea.
Alternatively, we can slash the number of highsec indy slots byGǪ ohGǪ 80% or so. Would that be a better solution?

Ooh, you do sound so tough.

You need to tone down the role-play a notch or two.

50% of players play solo, (quoted at fan-fest) so it is rather difficult for any solo miming ship to defend itself against a pvp ship.

a miner is prey and its only defense, like prey, should be fleeing to safety when the predators arrive

How many Hi-sec systems have 500-700 manufacturing slots?

500-700 slots per station would give just Goonswarm more manufacturing slots than all of Hi-sec and then you have everyone elses outpost on top of that.