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FMarshal Montgomery Caldari Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.08.08 23:02:00 - [631] Originally by: Sargeraes Edited by: Sargeraes on 06/08/2007 21:15:37 I'd like to present to the Raven community the debate in the level 4 low slot usage. Here's my high and mediums for argument's sake. I'm relatively new to 4's (only been doing them through July) and I'm finding I have to turn down some of the harder ones because even with my shield booster on, the rats out-DPS my tank! I'm leaning towards the extra tank the Damage Control provides, pretty much at no cost to my capacitor. Which one is more tried and true? The difference is about +/-60 DPS or 15% extra resistance. What say you, Raven pilots? Which missions u having to turn down? the raven is arguably the best PVE battleship in eve, looking at your tanking modules, you look pretty good to me, maybe drop the amp for a fourth hardner? best rule of thumb with lvl4's is to squeeze tank over damage output ------------------------------------------------ ** off with ur drakes tank! stop being a *** and buy a raven with its massive sig radius and then TANK THAT! Pirates are pussies in Real Life - F
Gerrard Lea Caldari The Populace	Posted - 2007.08.12 22:43:00 - [632] Hello all, Just because I can, heres my generic LvL 4 mission running raven Highs 6 x ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay (To lazy and cheap to get arbalest) 2 x Medium Nosferatu I (Will have to change that when the new patch comes out ) Medium 1 x Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster 4 x Tech 1 Rat Specific Shield Hardeners (To lazy to go for T2 yet. Patern of mediocroty there ) 1 x Shield Amplifier Tech 1 (Same as above) Lows 2 x Tech 2 Ballistic Control Systems 3 x Tech 2 Power Diagnostic Systems Rigs 3 x Capacitor Control Circuits I've only found one or two missions that I had to warp out of and regain my cap and shields. Now that i've put in a set of low grade crystal implants into a jump clone i've never had to warp out of a mission. So far anyways
Mik Nostrebor Minmatar Holy Cross Research	Posted - 2007.08.13 06:00:00 - [633] Edited by: Mik Nostrebor on 13/08/2007 06:02:08 After 10 months of doing level 4's I have finally got close to what I want in a Raven setup. This one makes most level 4's easy and I have to warp out almost never, unless I make a bungle of agro management. Raven Navy Issue (Woot) Highs: 7xCruise II, 1x Domination Large Proton Smart bomb (6500m radius) Mids: Heavy Cap Booster II (w/800's), Shield Boost Amp II, Republic Fleet X-Large Shield Booster (170 cpu), 3 tech II hardners. Lows: Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Unitsx2, Power Diag IIx2, Signal Amplifier II Rigs: 3x Cap Control Circ Let me explain a couple of things: 1. The Domi smart bomb, while not the best damage type all round (explosive) will kill those pesky interceptors where a standard one won't. Would be nice to get a Dread Guristas one but I can't afford it :) 2. Republic Fleet XL SB does not perform any better than a XL SB II but is 50 cpu less! They cost about 80-90 mill to buy. If I did caldari missions then the Caldari Navy LP reward item is way superior. 3. CN BCS are there because their 24 cpu is a big drop on the BCS II's 40 cpu. At 80 mill each they are reasonable to buy. 4. Signal amp II...to got those blighters at 100+km range!! All up the faction items in this fit totall about 250 mill. This means that the whole ship is less than 1 billion to buy and fit out. The Raven I used before was fitted like this: High: 6xarby Cruise, Mid: 3x tech II hardners, Heavy Cap Booster II (800), Shield boost amp I or II, XL Shield Booster II Low: 2xBCS II and 2x PDS II and amybe a CPU II to help fit everything. Rigs 3xCCC I That plain Raven served me well for several months. I lost 1 due to lag (got it back) and 1 to idiocy....didn't get it back. Mik AUSSIE AND KIWI EVE Fansite
Spurgo	Posted - 2007.08.14 10:06:00 - [634] MMmm.... i really dunno what kind of elv 4 r u doing but: I can hardly end ALONE my lev 4 in 0.0 from true power faction. My raven is fitted with 6 Siege Arby 2 Invul T2 2 Specific Hardener II 1 XL SHIELD BOOSTER T2 (how the hell can u use a LARGE????) 1 Shield booster amplifier 3 PDU faction 1 BCU T2 1 DMG control T2 3 CCC rigs My skills r only lev 4 or 5. I really cannot sustain the DPS in few missions, where i can find 6 bs and 15 BC shooting at me at the very beginning. So i wonder how can some peoples do the damn lev 4 mission running a SIMPLE LARGE shield booster.... Any kind of idea?
columbo	Posted - 2007.08.14 10:34:00 - [635] ok here is my lvl 4 setup( caldari navy raven ) high- 7 x caldari navy siege launcher 1 x tractor beam mids- gist b-type large shield booster 1 x t2 boost amp 1 x t2 invul shield 2 x t2 rat specific hardner 1 x t2 cap recharger lows- 3 x caldari navy bcu 1 x t2 bcu 1 x t2 pdu rigs- 2 x cap recharge rig 1 x thermal resistance rig Can run the shield booster permanantly and cap holds at 45%.
MrRookie Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.08.14 11:30:00 - [636] Originally by: Mik Nostrebor You get my vote for the Shield booster thing. I currently have a CN XL booster but I want to switch to a Domination/Republic one since the CN booster sucks cap too fast on auto. The Republic booster as you say is just as efficient as the T2 booster which is enough for any mission but most important saves you for alot of CPU. Likewise I got a Domination shield amp. 40 cpu ;) Honestly the fastest way to get a pimp setup is to get a navy booster and some navy/dread hardners. It's hardly expensive but makes it possible to fitt T2 launchers and a T2 XL booster if you already don't have a navy one. My setup: CNR High: 7 siege T2 Med: CN XL-booster, 3 CN hardners, Domination SBA and 1 Cap recharge T2 Low: 1x PDU2, 2x Cap flux T2 and 2x CN BCU T2 So if I only get the Domi/Republic booster I suppose my cap will stabilize. At least until I get a gist booster... Sig removed. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow May I have pink next time plz?
Jhagiti Tyran	Posted - 2007.08.14 17:24:00 - [637] Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran on 14/08/2007 17:25:57 Just getting my Raven ready for level 4s and gonna try this setup:- High 6x Malkuth Siege 2x 150mm rails Medium XL T2 shield booster Heavy T2 cap booster (800s) Named Target painter 3x Braced multispectral hardeners Lows 3x Named PDS 1x Named BCS 1x Named co processor And assorted drones I kinda ran out of CPU somewhere hence the Malkuths and Co processor, This setup probably sucks so any advice would be welcomed
Pinkranger	Posted - 2007.08.14 18:02:00 - [638] My setup: High 7 Caldari Navy Raven Cruise Missile Launchers 1 True Sansha Nosferatu Med Gist XL C-Type Booster, Gist C-Type Amplifier, 4 Tech II amps Lows 3 Tech 2 PDS, 2 Caldari Navy BCU's Using navy cruise missiles, pump out 630 damage per missile or so ;)
Gerrard Lea Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.08.14 21:26:00 - [639] Edited by: Gerrard Lea on 14/08/2007 21:27:20 Originally by: Spurgo MMmm.... i really dunno what kind of elv 4 r u doing but: I can hardly end ALONE my lev 4 in 0.0 from true power faction. My raven is fitted with 6 Siege Arby 2 Invul T2 2 Specific Hardener II 1 XL SHIELD BOOSTER T2 (how the hell can u use a LARGE????) 1 Shield booster amplifier 3 PDU faction 1 BCU T2 1 DMG control T2 3 CCC rigs My skills r only lev 4 or 5. I really cannot sustain the DPS in few missions, where i can find 6 bs and 15 BC shooting at me at the very beginning. So i wonder how can some peoples do the damn lev 4 mission running a SIMPLE LARGE shield booster.... Any kind of idea? It might be because your using Invuls or because you don't have a cap injector to go with your XL shield booster. Or maybe its because i've never had more than 3 bs's and a few bc's shooting at me at one time. Try not aggroing the whole place EDIT : Are missions in 0.0 harder than in empire?
Kryttos	Posted - 2007.08.15 12:04:00 - [640] Edited by: Kryttos on 15/08/2007 12:07:01 Edited by: Kryttos on 15/08/2007 12:06:45 My Setup. Keep In mind. sometimes I have to warp out, regen up some cap/boost shields to full, and then warp back in. High 6x Arby Cruise Launchers 1x Salvager 1 1x Small Tractor Beam Medium 1x XLarge Clarity Ward Booster I 1x Shield Boost Amp I 4x Rat Specific Hardeners II Low 3x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 1x Capacitor Power Relay II Rig 3x Capacitor Control Circuit I Drones 7x Rat Specific Drones or just 7x Vespa I
Kryttos Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.20 11:23:00 - [641] can anyone recomment something for slots 7 and 8 in High. I dropped Salvager and Tractor and use a Cormorant for that now. Tried an autotargeter and it just wasnt for me. I was thinking throwing on a NOS again, and perhaps a drone link augmentor.
Spurgo	Posted - 2007.08.20 12:10:00 - [642] Originally by: Gerrard Lea Edited by: Gerrard Lea on 14/08/2007 21:27:20 It might be because your using Invuls or because you don't have a cap injector to go with your XL shield booster. Or maybe its because i've never had more than 3 bs's and a few bc's shooting at me at one time. Try not aggroing the whole place EDIT : Are missions in 0.0 harder than in empire? I think that they r more difficoult. In few missions i have 4-6 bs and 8-15 Cruiser/Bc shooting at me at a certain point. I can tank the 90% of the missions but there r still some that i cannot hold for long and have to warp off. Perhaps a GIST XL will solve this problem to me :)
Kryttos Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.08.20 12:39:00 - [643] Originally by: Kryttos can anyone recomment something for slots 7 and 8 in High. I dropped Salvager and Tractor and use a Cormorant for that now. Tried an autotargeter and it just wasnt for me. I was thinking throwing on a NOS again, and perhaps a drone link augmentor. Keep in mind, i only have 25 CPU available at the moment as well.
Gerrard Lea Caldari PLAYERS OUTSIDE THE REALM OF NORMALITY ORDER	Posted - 2007.08.22 21:16:00 - [644] Originally by: Gerrard Lea Hello all, Just because I can, heres my generic LvL 4 mission running raven Highs 6 x ZW-4100 Siege Missile Bay (To lazy and cheap to get arbalest) 2 x Medium Nosferatu I (Will have to change that when the new patch comes out ) Medium 1 x Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster 4 x Tech 1 Rat Specific Shield Hardeners (To lazy to go for T2 yet. Patern of mediocroty there ) 1 x Shield Amplifier Tech 1 (Same as above) Lows 2 x Tech 2 Ballistic Control Systems 3 x Tech 2 Power Diagnostic Systems Rigs 3 x Capacitor Control Circuits I've only found one or two missions that I had to warp out of and regain my cap and shields. Now that i've put in a set of low grade crystal implants into a jump clone i've never had to warp out of a mission. So far anyways Changed the ZW-4100s for Arbalest and took off both of the Medium Nos's and was able to fit on an X-large C5-l emergency shield overload. With a grand total of 740 shield boost. Only 40 points lower than a pith a-type.
Khorian Gallente Excidium.	Posted - 2007.08.24 22:06:00 - [645] Edited by: Khorian on 24/08/2007 22:14:08 Edited by: Khorian on 24/08/2007 22:12:43 I know I will probably get flamed for this one, but what the heck: I was trying to get a T2 Fitting that could be run on permaboost and not cost me a billion to start with. This is what I came up with. Accoring to Quickfit it will run through, the Shield Booster doing 800 per cycle. I know I know, CPR and shield tank and all that stuff, but if it works and it tanks missions on permaboost why should I care? I'm gonna give it a try hehe. Raven 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] Turret Slot Turret Slot Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II X-Large Shield Booster II Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Flux Coil II Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay Rigs : Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ Capacitor Control Circuit I \ 9375 shield, 12.5/s, E/T/K/Ex=72/58/68/79 8301 armor, E/T/K/Ex=59/44/25/10 5418.750151991844 cap, +84.51/s, -80.4/s 144.0 m/s 285.7 DPS EDIT: just checked, there is room for two heavy Diminishing NoS. With those you COULD replace a CPR with a BCU, but you would be dependant on haveing something to NoS and you would boost 890 instead of 800. Last EDIT: Oh yeah, this also works with just T2 stuff, except that the Boost will only be 750ish. But damn is it cheap ;P
Mr ApE Caldari Bob The Builder Breidablik	Posted - 2007.08.27 20:29:00 - [646] Hmmm, here's my fitting, please come with ideas to improve it if you wish, not too expensive thou :P Highs: 6x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Mission Specific Ammo) 2x Heavy Diminishing nos (dunno what else to put there =)) Meds: 1x Domination X-Large Shield Booster 2x Active Hardeners (Mission Specific) 1x Invulnerability Field 1x Cap Recharger II 1x Shield Boost Amp II Lows: 1x Domination BCS 1x BCS II 1x DCU II 2x PDU II Rigs: 3x CCC Drones: 5x Tech II (Mission Specific) Misc: Cap: 7321 / 356 sec Yeah I know it might not be an optimal lvl 4 setup, but that's what I got atm, and I'ld love to hear what changes I can do that doesn't cost too much, I've just spent most of my isk on other stuffs :P
Ruato Gallente Gurgleblaster Industries	Posted - 2007.08.27 23:41:00 - [647] Hi: 6x T2 cruise, 2x heavy dimu nos Med: T2 large booster, T2 boost amp, 4x T2 hardeners Low: 3x BCU, 2x PDU Does everything quite nicely --- *Get rid of those bleeping secure containers. bleep!*
IrenKa	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:18:00 - [648] Raven, fit next: High 6x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher (w/Caldari Navy Cruise Missile, Mission Specific) med 2x Caldari Navy Hardener (Mission Specific) 2x Caldari Navy Shield Booster Amplifier 1x XL Shield Booster II 1x Heavy Cap Booster II (w/800's) low 2x PDU II 2x BCS II 1x Co-Processor II
William Alex Viscosity	Posted - 2007.09.05 12:02:00 - [649] I"m wondering if I'm the only one who see's the benifit of using CCCx3 along with Cap Flux Coil II x2 now... With that setup you can run a LSB and 4 hardeners indefinately Please give us a 1 depth skill queue CCP.
Jarod Diablos	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:25:00 - [650] Here is my setup since I don't understand why people want to have an active tank when yuo can go through almost all lvl 4 missions on a passive tanked raven. High: 6 x Cruise or Siege Launchers 2 x 250 mm Hybrids Mid: 3 x Large T2 Shield ext 2 x Rat specific passive harderns 1 x T2 Invu hardner Low: 3-5 T2 Shield power relay 2-0 T2 BCU Rigs: 3 x Shield purger Depending on your skills you may want to choose to have more SPR in the low slots to get more recharge rate. The only trick with this is to go for the Non spawning BS as first targets. Once that is done the rest of the spawn will not have enough DPS to break the tnak. Cos with this recharge I have so far not encountered a lvl 4 mission that would break my tank.
William Alex Viscosity	Posted - 2007.09.05 15:51:00 - [651] Edited by: William Alex on 05/09/2007 15:53:03 Originally by: Jarod Diablos Here is my setup since I don't understand why people want to have an active tank when yuo can go through almost all lvl 4 missions on a passive tanked raven. High: 6 x Cruise or Siege Launchers 2 x 250 mm Hybrids Mid: 3 x Large T2 Shield ext 2 x Rat specific passive harderns 1 x T2 Invu hardner Low: 3-5 T2 Shield power relay 2-0 T2 BCU Rigs: 3 x Shield purger Depending on your skills you may want to choose to have more SPR in the low slots to get more recharge rate. The only trick with this is to go for the Non spawning BS as first targets. Once that is done the rest of the spawn will not have enough DPS to break the tnak. Cos with this recharge I have so far not encountered a lvl 4 mission that would break my tank. Fact of the matter is that at MOST you can expect to tank maybe 900dps on a passive raven with that setup and that's only if they come at you with easily tanked kin/exp (any other reists are more like 350-700). Active setups can get similar tankable dps while keeping your outbound dps high. Please give us a 1 depth skill queue CCP.
Dant Kramble	Posted - 2007.09.05 21:00:00 - [652] Edited by: Dant Kramble on 05/09/2007 21:01:02 HereÆs a rather over-the-top fitting Highs 6 x T2 Cruises Med 2 x XL Shield Booster IIÆs 3 x T2 Rat Specific Hardeners (2 and 1) 1 x Shield Boost Amp II Low 2 x BCU IIÆs 1 x DCU II 2 x CPU IIÆs Rigs: Shield Hardners (EM, and donÆt remember) Drones: Shield Reps (?, wait) With current skills, gives around 1600 shield boost every 5 seconds, has roughly 90% resists in two damage types, but for omni tank they are all in high 70Æs ThatÆs ridiculous, you say? Cap is gone in about 15 seconds, you charge? Pishaw û the key to the setup is an alt in an Amarr Logistic (Guardian) (Yes, I know this is stupid, but I was impressed) Guardian Fit: High 5 x Large Cap Transfer Array IIÆs 1 x Best Large Remote Armor Repair Med 2 x Cap Recharge IIÆs Low 4 x CPR IIÆs 1 x Cap Flux Coil II Rigs 2 Port EgressÆs Drones 1 Heavy Armor Repair With current skills, this baby can run the five large t2 cap transfer arrays full time. I can drop the remote armor repairer for a sixth and it will run 7-10 minutes. The net effect is around 400 cap a second being transferred at ranges (Logistics 4 atm) around 80km. Depending if I go 5 or 6, its like firing an 800 cap booster every 1.9 û 2.5 seconds on the raven in a magical extra mid slot with magical cargo and instant reload. If I get into any trouble with the Raven, the remote armor repairer and the heavy armor repair bot approaches the repair ability of a having a good Large Armor Repairer in a magical extra low slot, and with the DCU II going, I do have some armor resists. Finally, the Guardian, despite fitting no tank at all, is a tough little monster. Lately a BS and a couple frigs have not bothered me at all. Any trouble and the Raven can launch its shield repair drone and help out. I make the Guardian pilot the squad commander, so he can ôtagö the rats that are targeting him for the Raven to take out first. Works great. Its actually really overkill. The Raven can run both shield boosters full time and never see its cap dip at all (maybe go to 95% for a second or two before another transfer), and shields largely do the same. The killing is slower than optimal with only 6 cruises and 2 BCU IIÆs, but I watch a lot of TV.
FMarshal Montgomery Caldari Mean Anglo-Danes	Posted - 2007.09.11 22:28:00 - [653] Originally by: Khorian Edited by: Khorian on 24/08/2007 22:16:21 I know I will probably get flamed for this one, but what the heck: I was trying to get a T2 Fitting that could be run on permaboost and not cost me a billion to start with. This is what I came up with. Accoring to Quickfit it will run through, the Shield Booster doing 800 per cycle. I know I know, CPR and shield tank and all that stuff, but if it works and it tanks missions on permaboost why should I care? I'm gonna give it a try hehe. Raven 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I [23xWrath Cruise Missile] Turret Slot Turret Slot Last EDIT: Oh yeah, this also works with just T2 stuff, except that the Boost will only be 750ish. But damn is it cheap ;P Howcome ur only 23 missiles in the launcher? the arbalest will fit 24 ------------------------------------------------ ** off with ur drakes tank! stop being a *** and buy a raven with its massive sig radius and then TANK THAT! Pirates are pussies in Real Life - F
Prince Bebop	Posted - 2007.09.13 07:52:00 - [654] High 6x Dread guristas Siege Launchers Medium 1x X-large shield booster II 1x Dread guristas shield boost Amp 1x Target painter of choice 1x Gist c-type EM harderner 1x Gist c-type Heat harderner 1x Invul Field II Low 4x BCU II 1x Dread co proc Rigs 1x Bay loading accel 1x Em screen 1x Kinetic screen Total setup comes to around 600-750mil But to make this work, cause this tank is kind of rubish on the cap side, i use an alt in an oneiros with a remote energy transfer, this way i can run the booster indefinately And i got great damage and a very good rof on those siege launchers. Doing lvl4's on easy mode Bebop.
Asmosis	Posted - 2007.09.13 12:02:00 - [655] Originally by: William Alex I"m wondering if I'm the only one who see's the benifit of using CCCx3 along with Cap Flux Coil II x2 now... With that setup you can run a LSB and 4 hardeners indefinately I use flux coils instead of PDS because even with all cap/booster skills at 5 I can't permarun a large navy booster with 3PDS/2BCS. Fitting 2 flux coils just falls short but with a PDS or another flux it perma runs the tank plus other mods.
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.13 17:54:00 - [656] Here's my setup, with two active resists can run the booster for about 6 minutes, with all passive can run it at a loss of only one cap per second at optimal. Highs: 6x Cruise II 2x Drone Link Augmentor Mids: L Booster II Boost Amp II (Some combination of passive to active hardeners depending on mission) Lows: 2 BCUII 2 PDUII 1 Damage Control II / Signal Amp II / BCU II depending on Mission Rigs: 2x Capacitor Control Circuit 1x Core Capacitor Sa*uard ---- I found switching out one capacitor control circuit for the core capacitor sa*uard resulted in a much better cap regen time. This is especially true for those of you with XL shield boosters, not to mention the rig costs all of 5 million isk. _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
Primp CNR	Posted - 2007.09.17 09:53:00 - [657] My Setup: High 7xEstamel Siege 1xBrynn 425mm Med Gist XT XL SB Estamel Invul 2xPith XT Hardener Draclira Cap Recharger Named TP Low 3xEstamel BCU Vepas Co-processor Draclira PDU
Ryu Kibegami	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:31:00 - [658] Edited by: Ryu Kibegami on 19/09/2007 14:34:16 I am wondering if this ok for lev 4 High 6 arb cruis 2 dim pow nos med 2 Large Shield Extender II 3 Shild Recharg II 1 V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix low 4 Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I 1 PDS II 5 Vespa I 15857 shield 299 recharge Any help would be appreciated
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp.	Posted - 2007.09.19 16:05:00 - [659] your max regen on that setup is only 127 hp/s, with only one multispec, that won't be near enough to tank most of the level 4s. You might be able to range tank some missions, but you have no backup. You'll really want to get an active shield tank setup. _______________ Pwett CEO and Founder [QTC]QUANT Corp.
Shari Vegas Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites	Posted - 2007.09.19 16:50:00 - [660] Raven isn't a Drake. Do not try to passive tank it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler I have no clue.

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