But it's acceptable that hi-sec is the only place that is viable for production, right?

I am concerned that with it being pos-only the supply may not match the demand.

Bingo.
That is likely coming soon enough.
First, we lost meta 0 loot.
Then we lost drone alloys.
Now, we lose half the value of the loot left over.
Guess what is next?

Oh so now High/low sec (and btw I no longer mine or produce but I know many who do) miners shouldn't rely on there own stocks they should buy there minerals from there null sec overlords. Bows to the CFC

Right, so this announcement is not a net nerf to high sec?
And this is apparently just the first of several "big changes", as per the dev''s first post.

they aren't training other skills. they are training for barges and the perfect refine. because they don't feel ready for pvp. takes an organisation like brave newbies to change that mindset. brave newbies is probably the best thing that happened to eve on the player side in a looooooooong time.

Then it will become profitable to compress ore, and it will be worth your time to do it.

Why not just improve it to at least add something other than a minuscule 5% extra. Or is there any particular reason why CCP has gone for the arbitrary value of 55% as the maximum. Increasing it to at least 60% would give some reason to still have the skill.

Aha, you are one of those "I mined it, so it's free" types. Carry on, then -- I don't have the patience to try and correct your hilariously awful concepts about how things work.

CCP is touching a part of the game which is sacred: perfect processing;

which really is by far the most boring activity in eve. i guess more people quit because mining is boring than anything else.

(sadly) there are plenty people around that will buy ore or support newbie miners in mining corps.

And your one of those I live in null sec so everyone else go.......... so are you not worth my time. No I understand its not free and I will always go for what's most profitable and knowing me I will buy minerals with mineral profits but it seem just a little like screwing some to unscrew others why not try to fix the issue. Tbh I feel null sec should because of the risks have a buff eg like 120% efficiency however I don't think that a player with perfect standings with an npc corp (and perfect refining skills) should have less then 99% efficiency.

you need to get out more

You can only have 100% efficiency.

In order to make null rewarding the perfect refining of high sec must go.

coughs so you've read the Dev blog then points to Hisec 113% efficiency stats

And I thought I was on shaky ground..

coughs so you've read the Dev blog then points to Hisec 113% efficiency stats

And I thought I was on shaky ground..

they aren't training other skills. they are training for barges and the perfect refine. because they don't feel ready for pvp. takes an organisation like brave newbies to change that mindset. brave newbies is probably the best thing that happened to eve on the player side in a looooooooong time.

But it's acceptable that hi-sec is the only place that is viable for production, right?

In order to make null rewarding the perfect refining of high sec must go.

In order to make null rewarding the perfect refining of high sec must go.

It would be nice to see you answer something without spin once in a while. Clearly, nosec is totally unrewarding and no one wants to go there. Only by stripping hisec of everything will nosec be rewarding.

You do realize it's not a zero sum game, right?

It would be nice to see you answer something without spin once in a while. Clearly, nosec is totally unrewarding and no one wants to go there. Only by stripping hisec of everything will nosec be rewarding.

You do realize it's not a zero sum game, right?

So to fix that you make null the only place viable to do production? Can't there be an equal divide.....

You're making a big change so that people should spend the 6+ months training their refinery skills up, giving two tiers of max refinery, one in NPC stations and one in nullsec outposts.

Then you take all that and throw it away saying that PoS refinery will be better than NPC stations without any skills or implants needed.

So that means people can launch a PoS in highsec using standing boosters, and by that get refinery without any skilltime spent at all.

Guess we'll see that rise of hundreds of refinery corps, only there to hold a highsec PoS to refine in.

Skills should affect the PoS refinery just like anywhere else, making PoS refineries still useful, even though STILL requiring the training time to do so.