fear of unknown is one of the biggest fears for a man. its easy to say "overcome your fear", but hard to do. You can't be so pushy toward carebears to overcome their fears, you have to cater the game around this

You cant be so pushy to cater the game to those unwilling to experience its true nature. Every successful pvper was once not, and learned to overcome their challenges.

If anything, the high concentration of players in highsec indicates a need for dispersal across more areas of space. Not that eve should cater even more content options for those that choose to live exclusively there. We need more reasons for players to leave highsec far more desperately than content to keep them happy there.

people who have bad opinions of dojos probably have some kind of greedy agenda to keep their businesses going or maybe they just want more flies to be caught in their pvp net somewhere in lowsec which nobody cares about

Complete Bullshit.

I'm not a pvper and even I see this as against all of the founding principles of Eve Online.

An Instance in the Sandbox...

Eve's sandbox is where the kids can play with their toys, and other kids can come kick sand in your face, stomp all over your toys, and perhaps ransom the bits back to you. Or just laugh in your face.

There are much better means of driving conflict and content into low/null.

So here I am, going out for a roam in FW space. I do not have a link-alt available to get boosts so about 75% of the fights are badly in the opponent's favor. So I am sitting there with skills that need some work, fighting someone who has a massive advantage and you then tell me it's my fault I can't find fightable targets without just throwing ISK at it and pray?

It's a problem that puts a lot of new players off.

havent read the whole thread just the first few pages.

but i have to say this is the single most awesome idea i have heard of yet in eve and also that i cant understand the fear and skeptisim behind putting this on TQ.

I have played eve since Dec 2012 so im a relatively young character but i feel the addition of this feature will breath new life into the game.

Eve is an awesome game, and i love it. But man at times i just want to log on and pvp.

I've been in Hi, Lo, Null and wherever i go sometimes (most of the time) space is just dead. You can roam for ages and find nothing. Making the whole experience boring.

Even in RvB its duifficult to find a fight all the time. Sure you get more fights but sometimes theres just nothing going on.

This is why for a short while i stopped playing eve and just logged in to update my skillqueue. Other games had more instant gratification so I went there.

I have now returned to eve to give nul another go in the hopes of finding gf''s.

sometimes there are. but most of the time space is dead.

but if eve had this feature, i would never be bored. imagine during fleet downtime you can instantly find pvp. practice ur game , actually get better...

I think it would certainly open up pvp to new players as well. which is fantastic because its so awesome in this game when **** actually goes down.

I really cant express enough how excited i am by this.

Someone else posted that what if people just stayed in station using the dojo all the time instead actually 'playing' eve.

Of course people will still play the game. Use the space, go on roams, find the kills. Theres also always going to be pos' and poco's to bash and fights to be had out of it. Hi sec war decs, low sec FW, Null SOV and of course bitter vets who dont like change.

Dont worry, I dont think this will break eve.

This will make it even more ******* awesome.

One problem tho if it does get really popular. is like when u have to form up quickly to save some 'assets' becuase someone is attacking something or other. Sometimes u need to form u fast and if poepl are stuck in the instance they wont be forming up fast. So there should be an option to quit the dojo at any time.

Flame all u want this dojo idea is aweome!

With any luck Dojos will all die in a fire.

i think this should should be rented from concord so corps and alliances can have theire small tournaments.


but the structure should be baned in hi sec space.

it would be super cool to have it, but it should not interfere with normal pvp in any way.

Make it like special tournamet only thing.

200 mil per 24h can not be used in Hi sec space

dont think i have heard worse argument ever. and why is highsec of all places so precious to you in terms of banning pvp there?

Wel ive read some more of them and they seems to boil down to "but i wanna gank your ship in space and if ur preventing me from doing that ur removing content" without really addressing the fact that ccp are actually adding content into the game.

i guess a higher evolved sandbox would be more like what we have in real life society, where people cant necessarily have an easy time to "stomp all over other peoples toys" because then they would get into trouble and the whole thing wouldnt be worth it to begin with

You do understand that this kind of thinking is the reason why criminals exist in real life?

We're playing in a sandbox with a set of rules which apply to everyone, none of the rules are preventative in ship-to-ship interaction. Concord is there to punish, not to prevent. If you create an area of space which prevents any unsolicited PvP interaction, then you explicitly create an environment where more and more rules and regulations will be called for to protect those who just want to fly their pink unicorns in the pretty skies.

Games with dojo-like mechanics already exist and they have their crowd, that crowd is not compatible with the crowd in New Eden.