It has three inertia stabs on it, thats to get it into warp faster. Thats what a travel fit requires. Brick tanking is not a travel fit, its brick tanking.

Also, how do the bumpers keep the ship locked down without giving the target a weapons timer, which attracts CONCORD (which, by your own admission, makes the gank significantly more difficult?) Why doesn't the bowhead or freighter simply safe log the moment they start to get bumped?

Why doesn't the bowhead or freighter simply safe log the moment they start to get bumped?

Actually I have no clue what that fit is.....no tank in mids....istabs in lows....no DC....kinda crazy fit....and lots of stuff in cargo.

If it wasn't on zkill, I'd think it was a fraud!

But definitely not a "travel fit."

And now he is dead. GF

Those things in the hold? Thats his normal fit.

He put on stabs to get into warp faster, its a travel fit. Every time you post you somehow manage to show that you know less and less about this game.

They aggress with a rookie ship to create an LE timer.

Code has this down to a science...I assume miniluv does as well.

I've actually thought about this myself, but given that safe warp brings you right back to where you started, don't the bumpers just have to keep bumping you again? Its not as if the bumper is under a time crunch given how slow those ships are to align.

Confirming that travel fits have no tank in mids, and no DC in low.

No cloak either.

and carry around 1.5 bil of implants in cargo.

You just stay logged off until the gankers go away. Scouting the gate with an alt helps you figure out when it's time to log in again.

The principle still applies GÇö your preconceived notions due to the poster's alliance colored your responses. If you were willing to overlook it for me, personally, great GÇö-áthat doesn't excuse you for turning heel and continuing to do it to others.

I inherently discard all information about a poster's alliance and corporation when posting because using that information to assassinate a person's character is poor form. It makes things too easy. I prefer to operate from a position where that cannot be used against me, and I often succeed.

The point is that the barge EHP increase had a measurable effect in reducing the incidence of suicide ganking.

Hell, we can measure it right now GÇö-áI, personally, stopped suicide ganking due to that change. Too much effort for too little reward.

Them shooting at you prevents the logoff I think. So when you disconnect on gate, you get warped 1 mil km off.....they quickly scan down and send a rookie ship to agress....this prevents logoff....the they bump away from concord....and come in for the kill.

No, they dont tend to fit a cloak or overtank the ship. This guy was a moron no doubt but that is what a normal travel fit looks like. You fit for speed not tank and you sure as hell don't fit billion isk mods.

You just stay logged off until the gankers go away. Scouting the gate with an alt helps you figure out when it's time to log in again.

Not if you safelog. Safe logout takes 30 seconds, and as long as you aren't aggressed, you disappear from space immediately after the 30s timer elapses. It is the premiere choice for Folks Logging Out In Space.

Also, when you log in again, you immediately enter emergency warp without having to align. There's no way for someone to aggress you before you initiate the e-warp, and if someone DOES manage to somehow, the GMs will reimburse your ship if you petition it.

You will have to forgive me for thinking that this example shows why Eve has a tendency to have a bad reputation...

A simple web frigate counters the bumping anyway and get the freighter into warp so fast it enters the warp tunnel sideways.

This is very true, what a webbing frigate doesn't do is combat the reputation that Eve is infested by griefers...

(otherwise pages like this wouldn't even exist)
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Skullduggery_101#What_are_Griefers.3F

That's a rather bad article, Griefing is a bannable offence and is very much not what was described in that site.

Here's a teaser image that CCP released at EVE Vegas.

That's a rather bad article, Griefing is a bannable offence and is very much not what was described in that site.

Again all true. But given that the distinction between pirate and griefer can be rather grey and confusing to new players, there is a reason that Eve has the rep it does.

This is very true, what a webbing frigate doesn't do is combat the reputation that Eve is infested by griefers...

Will probably give you guys updated numbers for HP and bonus change tomorrow, did want to address the jump fatigue generation thing which seems to be coming up a little bit at least.

Every 'hauler' in the game got this reduction because the fatigue change wasn't meant to hit logistics, this ship simply fits under that umbrella. It is not meant as any kind of special treatment or specific incentive to use it outside of high-sec. It's fine if that happens but I just wanted to point out that it's a role based bonus and that's all.

Hi everyone,

We've collected, parsed and thoroughly discussed your *extensive* feedback on the proposed long-distance travel changes, both in the official thread and elsewhere, consulted with the CSM, and made adjustments accordingly.

Conclusions we have reached through this exercise:
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The ease of nullsec logistics permitted by jump freighters and, to a lesser extent, jump bridge networks is not aligned with where we would like nullsec industry to be.

[*]It *is*, however, pretty well aligned with where nullsec industry is right now. As we improve the status quo for industry in nullsec, we will want to reevaluate this balance, along with the impact potential changes would have on logistical work for other areas of the game.

cloak in highs, 2 pith as and 2 lses and gist x mwd in mids, 2 1600 faction plates, 4 x type harderners and dcs in low.....it would be more with shield rigs...overheated 300k ehp

Again all true. But given that the distinction between pirate and griefer can be rather grey and confusing to new players, there is a reason that Eve has the rep it does.

Gotta say that you claiming to be on the side of Right on Eve's reputation is pretty laffo considering some things you've posted in the past.

yes, all those newbies flying freighters that are loaded with enough goods they're worth making a special effort to gank

Who said anything about newbies flying the freighters? I was implying that the newbie would be flying the webbing frigate and would be wondering why something like that would necessary for safety...