EVE Search - Thermodynamic's Reduce to Energy Management 4 please! (First Whine)

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Thermodynamic's Reduce to Energy Management 4 please! (First Whine)

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 .. 19 :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Mystic Pete	Posted - 2007.06.25 19:15:00 - [511] Ok, after reading the first couple of pages I thought I'd skip to the end. As this still seem s to be going on, a few thoughts. If you don't think Energy Management 5 is worth it don't get it. If not getting EM5 means no thermodynamics maybe you should rethink whether it's worth it. Thermodynamics is a new skill based on overclocking modules. Its makes sense to have engineering and cap skill reqs. Having both these skills mastered before you can fine manipulate the power to these modules seems perfectly acceptable. As a side note I had a quick look at Command Ships the other day. As I've just got in a BC it will take me a hell of a lot longer to get one of those than to get thermodynamics. Should it's requirements be nerfed so I can get one sooner? And aimed at the OP or sympathisers. You are expressing your freedom of speach and expressing an opinion. What you are doing is whining. The worst thing is that sometimes bad choices get made because ignorant people whine. It's just not possible to get everyone that actually wants a balanced, fair game to post each and every day on the boards 'Please CCP don't listen to the whiners today' Oh and one last thing to the OP "but for now look's like im gonna have to train it to keep inline, and once again go off my goal, AGAIN...." if you've got a goal stick to it. When your in a position to fine tune look at the fancy skills.
BOBHOPE Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.06.25 21:47:00 - [512] nothing worng with it in my opinion. the prereq's are fine and it is something that adds a little extra as rigs were to the older player who cant max anymore skills to get a desired effect with his/her chosen playstyle. my 2quid
Chainsaw Plankton	Posted - 2007.06.26 05:24:00 - [513] a) its a good skill to train b) heat is a lead up to tech 3. lets not make it easy to get
Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 10:56:00 - [514] Only a few hours left before Energy Management 5 is done here now. As for everyone complaining about the needed prerequisites, if you don't want to use heat, don't. CCP doesn't force you. We're sorry, something happened.
Cpt Branko Guardian Heroes	Posted - 2007.06.26 11:58:00 - [515] I'm going to rip-off the opinions of a few other posters and rehash them, as this hasn't been asnwered to by all the "suck it up" fanbois: I believe there should be no pre-requisites for heat. Why? It is available on every ship and is not a module. It's not as though you need a pre-requisite skill to use your scanner, or to warp, so why to use heat? Sure seed skills for using it more effectively, but it has the capacity to be a game changing mechanic, why exclude 95% of the playing population from using it? Comparing Heat to the scanner, warp drive, in-built system scanner and such is much more valid then comparing heat to HACs/whatever. And to the guy who said that exploration (probing) is also a part of the UI but requires skills, well, at a basic level (in-built scanner), it doesn't now. And noobs baking modules (which can be repaired), well, noobs can also go to low-sec and get blasted/podded. Nothing stops them from that. Rather put heat in the tutorial. Can any of you even formulate a logical answer to this except "suck it up"?
Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:12:00 - [516] Originally by: Ssoraszh Tzarszh Edited by: Ssoraszh Tzarszh on 25/06/2007 13:02:33 Originally by: Hasak Rain Wow this is still going strong and I am even still being quoted. 17 pages and haven't really seen one good reason yet. Just a bunch of rabble from some jaded Vets with inferiority complexes {or should it be called a WoW complex?} where they don't want anyone approaching things that they have. Pathetic really but what can you expect from little children? <snip> Thanks and have a nice day. Maybe ill come back tomorrow and see if anyone has come up with something intelligent yet. Not holding my breath though. Wow, you lack what you claim to seek seemingly. By your logic, you are just a "whining noob" who envies what "jaded vets" have and wants everything handed to you on a silver platter. Just like a 5 year old. Originally by: Hasak Rain The 13 days it would take for me to train for this doesn't even bother me in itself. Then why bother creating this thread then anyway? Just train the darn skill, its not like its useless, everyone who has it and is dependend on cap in their fittings can attest to that fact. Oh, i'm sorry you dont get out mutch, playing with NPC's all day and such. Nevermind, i see why its "useless" to you. Well then, i got news for you. Heat is not more usefull to you than training EM to lvl 5, to be honest i would not use it against NPC's anyway. So theres no need to train either skill. just put the Thermodynamics on your "to do list" like EM 5. Have fun, Wow you are certainly pretty stupid. For one thing, I didn't create the thread. I thank the guy who did however. Secondly, Why wouldn't heat be useful to me? What in the hell are you even talking about? I am assuming that you think I am a PvE player only but if that is what you read, I think you need to take a reading comprehension course. All I said was I will not PvP until I get around to training up for Heat. I never said anything about wanting Heat for use in PvE. Idiot.
Edania Caldari 9th army CMC Edge Of Sanity	Posted - 2007.06.26 19:22:00 - [517] "All I said was I will not PvP until I get around to training up for Heat" oh come on dont be so ludicrous thats like saying im not useful in PVP till i have everything ever and implys you think of PVP as 1V1, if you want to stay out of PVP because of that realise that it isnt CCPs fault its your own imbicility. people PVP in 1 month olds or 1 day olds and have fun, to blazes with everything else its supposed to be fun to play right? get into a good gang op and heat will be utterly utterly pointless it wont stop overwhelming damage and it wont contribute overwhelming damage prehaps just as some have mentioned warp scraming and realise that the world isnt about to explode because you cant use a feature, hell im 3 years old and cant use cloaks or the current flavour of the month but thats not going to stop me try to have a laugth Quote: my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
Umit Davala Corpus PCG The State	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:56:00 - [518] Originally by: Hasak Rain Wow this is still going strong and I am even still being quoted. 17 pages and haven't really seen one good reason yet. Just a bunch of rabble from some jaded Vets with inferiority complexes {or should it be called a WoW complex?} where they don't want anyone approaching things that they have. Pathetic really but what can you expect from little children? Probably the closest thing I have read to a good reason is someone mentioned that Heat is supposedly the bridge to T3 and for that reason should have high reqs but until that is confirmed, I am not buying it yet. The 13 days it would take for me to train for this doesn't even bother me in itself. I have trained longer skills and EM 5 was on my list of "to do" even before I knew Heat was attached to it. However, I just view it as yet another unnecessary time sink implemented by CCP. There is no justification for it. Until I get it trained, I will just fly lvl 4 missions in high sec making millions upon millions. One less target out there for the kiddies telling me to "suck it up." The good news is this will help finance the fleet of Faction and regular Battleships I am putting together. Thanks and have a nice day. Maybe ill come back tomorrow and see if anyone has come up with something intelligent yet. Not holding my breath though. Oooo, you big fat troll. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This post was brought to you in association with Amateur Dramatics Forum Whoring, and Quafe Ultra: in the heat of the moment.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:38:00 - [519] Originally by: Cpt Branko I'm going to rip-off the opinions of a few other posters and rehash them, as this hasn't been asnwered to by all the "suck it up" fanbois: I believe there should be no pre-requisites for heat. Why? It is available on every ship and is not a module. It's not as though you need a pre-requisite skill to use your scanner, or to warp, so why to use heat? Sure seed skills for using it more effectively, but it has the capacity to be a game changing mechanic, why exclude 95% of the playing population from using it? Comparing Heat to the scanner, warp drive, in-built system scanner and such is much more valid then comparing heat to HACs/whatever. And to the guy who said that exploration (probing) is also a part of the UI but requires skills, well, at a basic level (in-built scanner), it doesn't now. And noobs baking modules (which can be repaired), well, noobs can also go to low-sec and get blasted/podded. Nothing stops them from that. Rather put heat in the tutorial. Can any of you even formulate a logical answer to this except "suck it up"? QFE. Also, even if there would be no onboard scanner, you can get probing skills pretty fast. It's no valid comparsion to heat. Oh, and EM5 in 10 hours
TOPSTER Twilight Void	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:38:00 - [520] Even though I have Energy Man. 5, I have to admit I was a bit shocked when I saw that as a requirement. Its overkill. _______________ MK2
Cpt Branko Guardian Heroes	Posted - 2007.06.27 11:07:00 - [521] Originally by: Aramendel ...failure to deliver any argument except EM V in 10 hours... QFE. There, two can play "you're wrong" game
Cleric JohnPreston	Posted - 2007.06.27 12:24:00 - [522] Originally by: TOPSTER Even though I have Energy Man. 5, I have to admit I was a bit shocked when I saw that as a requirement. Its overkill. NAH MATE, THIS SEPERATES THE MEN FROM THE ******* WHINERS lmfao
Unfamed II FinFleet	Posted - 2007.06.27 12:28:00 - [523] I think Eng 5+EM 5 is not enough prereqs. It should be Eng 5+EM 5 and some rank 2 level 5 skill. That way all the noobs could prolly whine off the rank 2 skill and still not make it too easy to train. Thermodynamics is NOT a skill that is required to play the game. Suck it up and train EM 5. Oh and btw, thermodynamics 4 done now. - - Seriously, it's not that great being an amarr, is it?
Car Wars coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.27 14:17:00 - [524] see it as a teaser from ccp, they want you to spend 14d on em5. as you will be playing/paying those 14days. high skills reqs make money.
Raven	Posted - 2007.06.28 01:26:00 - [525] Why won't this thread just die It turned into a pure flamefest several pages ago. Plz, someone ask a Mod to lock it up.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.28 03:09:00 - [526] Originally by: Cpt Branko QFE. There, two can play "you're wrong" game You might reread what I was writing - because I was agreeing with you
bellator militaris	Posted - 2007.07.07 12:39:00 - [527] CCP is looking into this situation and will get back to everyone in about three years.
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.08 02:06:00 - [528] Originally by: Aramendel Originally by: Cpt Branko QFE. There, two can play "you're wrong" game You might reread what I was writing - because I was agreeing with you "you're wrong" ... ignore me. Interesting times await...
nihlanth	Posted - 2007.07.08 05:05:00 - [529] First, I just want to say that I'm not a vet. (my main is barely 2 months old). My opinion on this matter is that the skills requiremnets are fine. I'm an Amarr pilot and I was planning to train EM to V anyway. (5% extra cap is a big enough difference between maintaning cap and running dry in the heat of battle...). I don't think heat is absolutely neccesary though....Im going to be spending the next few months training gunnery, navigation and HAC; so until then I can do without it. :) Keep up the good work CCP. I can't wait to see what you have in store for the future of EVE.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:12:00 - [530] EM 5 is a must for pretty much any ship, so this just bumps it up on everyone's list of to do. So this is not like a wasted skill to lvl 5, take a look at the starbase skill. --------------------------- Originally by: Ductoris At this rate I'm going to ask for a BOB sub-forum.
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:17:00 - [531] I think anyone that wants to partake in this worthless skill should definitely be allowed. Make no skill prereqs at all. we ran outta cowbell.
Saralle Zhukov	Posted - 2007.07.09 01:17:00 - [532] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Edited by: Shiwan Khan on 19/06/2007 23:52:29 We trained these skills, so now you have to train the skills. Edit - How about we just make it so when you start a new character you have all the skills ingame already set at lvl 5. That way there will be no division and everyone will be exactly the same. That sounds like fun! Isn't that like a new DEV hire?
Greenbolt Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.09 21:21:00 - [533] I think its stupid that it takes a L4 skill to V to get a L3 skill. Thermodynics should be L8 (or atleast L5,L6) since it would be natural that the skill would be higher level than its requirements. --------------------------------------------------- Scordite -Who was it that said that flying minmatar is kinda like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an uzi?
City Chick	Posted - 2007.07.13 15:06:00 - [534] I realy dont care dude to be honest, if your thinking level 5 isn't a priority your gonna die anyway.
Zenst Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.14 00:33:00 - [535] Originally by: City Chick I realy dont care dude to be honest, if your thinking level 5 isn't a priority your gonna die anyway.
Plave Okice Naughty 40 Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.14 07:01:00 - [536] All those who started whining in this thread could have had this trained by now.
xHalcyonx Amarr EmpiresMod Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.07.14 20:32:00 - [537] Originally by: Plave Okice All those who started whining in this thread could have had this trained by now. I did.
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 20:48:00 - [538] Originally by: Plave Okice All those who started whining in this thread could have had this trained by now. hahahah! CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Chainsaw Plankton	Posted - 2007.07.14 23:51:00 - [539] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Plave Okice All those who started whining in this thread could have had this trained by now. hahahah! and even have a useful skill at level 5
Malcanis High4Life Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.15 09:42:00 - [540] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Plave Okice All those who started whining in this thread could have had this trained by now. hahahah! and even have a useful skill at level 5 A very useful skill, even. It's next on my list as soon as Propulsion Jamming 5 is done. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 [18] 19 .. 19 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.