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Clare Starblaze	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:46:00 - [601] lets look at the sm 2 requirement first folks, most havent read all the pages but the deves obviously have been as they seem to indicate that they may be willing to reschedual/rethink the module 3 requirement from some of the posts theyve put up, so before crying about next december, lets look at march :) honestly my family's got a 6-7 year old pc thats capable of sm 2 and 99% are capable of at least that much, if not well... im sorry but if your not you might want to think about a new pc. I do agree that there needs to be a way to lower graphics requirements though, mainly because sometimes my wireless connection cannot keep up with the data flow :( and lower graphics would net me much better performance, but having 2 full clients is a resource drain, they need to stick with one or the other, and sorry classic fans premium won. Hopefully though ccp will rethink its sm 3 reqs in december, seeing as many still use them, but thats a long ways away and there are far more issues between now and then atm.
Etren Stokk Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:48:00 - [602] Originally by: Professor Dumbledore Id' rather them throw away the fancy ****ty graphics no one cares what the game looks like just so long as it plays you idiots. If that's true, why don't you just play text based games or even live action role play? Graphics matter. It's why they're called "video" games.
Hiro Nacatomy	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:50:00 - [603] Hey all, I understand from a business perspective that there is a lot to maintain, however please flip the coin and look at the chain effect. I have 3 alts that i like to run at the same time, and do so by two pc's split monitor setup, I also have an awsome computer setup with a 788 mb card. The problem is that there is just way tooo much lag on premo when i do this. Classic should be maintained, you created the dragon, and now you need to feed him. Now that i have gotten accustomed to paying for 3 active accounts and CCP is accustomed to taking my cash for it. You should keep Classic.
Clare Starblaze	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:50:00 - [604] Originally by: Etren Stokk Originally by: Professor Dumbledore Id' rather them throw away the fancy ****ty graphics no one cares what the game looks like just so long as it plays you idiots. If that's true, why don't you just play text based games or even live action role play? Graphics matter. It's why they're called "video" games. this
Brainless Bimbo Minmatar	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:50:00 - [605] Originally by: Digital Anarchist If you want to force us to use new hardware, at least give us an option to run wireframe graphics. No need to fork and maintain 2 codebases, just the option to strip more graphics stuff if we want to. oh... brings back memories of 1989 and elite on my pc.....
Girabaldi D'Protagonist Minmatar In Theory.	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:52:00 - [606] Edited by: Girabaldi D''Protagonist on 14/01/2009 20:53:27 Ok for all of the people that can't play after March 10, can you please contract all of your stuff to me before you go.. will probably take me a while to go around the galaxy to pick it all up.. but hey, I'll do it.. Heck if enough do it.. I can survive off of Time Codes for quite a while.. huh? huh? So just make those contracts out to me.. or my corp and we will be happy to come aroudn and pick it up.. then at least you won't have to worry about all that stuff going to waste in a hanger that you can't log into anymore.. Thank you for your support.. Oh man I remember elite.. that was the bomb.. was awesome.. hell why don't we just make a text based version.. huh huh? .. I shoot my 125mm Scout at XXXXXX. XXXXXX deftly slides away resulting in zero damamge.. Hahahahahahahaha
Etren Stokk Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:52:00 - [607] Originally by: Girabaldi D'Protagonist Ok for all of the people that can't play after March 10, can you please contract all of your stuff to me before you go.. will probably take me a while to go around the galaxy to pick it all up.. but hey, I'll do it.. Heck if enough do it.. I can survive off of Time Codes for quite a while.. huh? huh? So just make those contracts out to me.. or my corp and we will be happy to come aroudn and pick it up.. then at least you won't have to worry about all that stuff going to waste in a hanger that you can't log into anymore.. Thank you for your support.. Shameless opportunist! I love it!
Clare Starblaze	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:55:00 - [608] Originally by: Hiro Nacatomy Hey all, I understand from a business perspective that there is a lot to maintain, however please flip the coin and look at the chain effect. I have 3 alts that i like to run at the same time, and do so by two pc's split monitor setup, I also have an awsome computer setup with a 788 mb card. The problem is that there is just way tooo much lag on premo when i do this. Classic should be maintained, you created the dragon, and now you need to feed him. Now that i have gotten accustomed to paying for 3 active accounts and CCP is accustomed to taking my cash for it. You should keep Classic. problem just is the resource usage for 2 clients, not only dev support but phisical computing assets needed as well. it costs less computing assets for ccp to put us on one client rather than two, thus netting more free resources for there servers to dedicate out during peak periods. I do agree that the frame rate using premium graphics is a little low, but the lite style graphics is supposed to help with this without tying up large amounts of additional resources on ccps part. and like has been said befor most developers are saying that needing to support sm 1 is holding them back, so they have decided not to do so anymore, and ccp should do so as well to furthur their own development.
Imaos	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:01:00 - [609] Originally by: Etren Stokk Originally by: Girabaldi D'Protagonist Ok for all of the people that can't play after March 10, can you please contract all of your stuff to me before you go.. will probably take me a while to go around the galaxy to pick it all up.. but hey, I'll do it.. Heck if enough do it.. I can survive off of Time Codes for quite a while.. huh? huh? So just make those contracts out to me.. or my corp and we will be happy to come aroudn and pick it up.. then at least you won't have to worry about all that stuff going to waste in a hanger that you can't log into anymore.. Thank you for your support.. Shameless opportunist! I love it! Garibaldi D'Protagonist was already taken? Back to topic. The real nice aspect of EvE is that I can play the game while not at my desktop. I don't intend to upgrade my notebook, because EvE would be the only reason, too. March wont be my problem, but the next step with model 3 would break it. So I guess there will be some long skills and breaks incoming. Imaos ------------------------------------------ Originally by: NoNah My friend, this is EVE, as it's a space oriented game, they couldn't have trolls. We have Caldari.
Daelorn Perkone	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:01:00 - [610] Originally by: Hiro Nacatomy Hey all, I understand from a business perspective that there is a lot to maintain, however please flip the coin and look at the chain effect. I have 3 alts that i like to run at the same time, and do so by two pc's split monitor setup, I also have an awsome computer setup with a 788 mb card. The problem is that there is just way tooo much lag on premo when i do this. Classic should be maintained, you created the dragon, and now you need to feed him. Now that i have gotten accustomed to paying for 3 active accounts and CCP is accustomed to taking my cash for it. You should keep Classic. Looks like your video card isn't so awesome then.
Etren Stokk Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:06:00 - [611] Maybe we should just get rid of graphics and just have a text only version and a wireframe version. This way, everyone can play Eve even decades from now on any kind of networked device!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:09:00 - [612] Originally by: Clare Starblaze Originally by: Hiro Nacatomy Hey all, I understand from a business perspective that there is a lot to maintain, however please flip the coin and look at the chain effect. I have 3 alts that i like to run at the same time, and do so by two pc's split monitor setup, I also have an awsome computer setup with a 788 mb card. The problem is that there is just way tooo much lag on premo when i do this. Classic should be maintained, you created the dragon, and now you need to feed him. Now that i have gotten accustomed to paying for 3 active accounts and CCP is accustomed to taking my cash for it. You should keep Classic. problem just is the resource usage for 2 clients, not only dev support but phisical computing assets needed as well. it costs less computing assets for ccp to put us on one client rather than two, thus netting more free resources for there servers to dedicate out during peak periods. I do agree that the frame rate using premium graphics is a little low, but the lite style graphics is supposed to help with this without tying up large amounts of additional resources on ccps part. and like has been said befor most developers are saying that needing to support sm 1 is holding them back, so they have decided not to do so anymore, and ccp should do so as well to furthur their own development. The servers farm out the same info to all clients. Also, Shader Models do not currently hold CCP back because they have two seperate clients. When they have one client, then shader models will be a restriction to development. The whole idea just seems silly, so I guess there must be another factor that they haven't told us about. Throwing away $2mil in revenue per year just so you can reduce your potential subscriber base .. doesn't that sound odd to anyone? Premium can stride ahead already, because people have Classic to fall back on. I don't care if Classic looks "old" .. in fact I would like the alternate scanline rendering back too, that looked awesome. We don't want CCP to make Classic like Premium, we just want to be able to continue to log on and play the game we love. I couldn't care less if Classic won't have ambulation, I don't need it. I just want to be able to take my laptop with me knowing I can log on and enjoy Eve where ever I may be. The clients are both just different frontends to the same data and tasks - there is no need to remove one of them, and keeping them both is better for the community. CCP can still develop the new Premium version, and maintain classic - they just don't want to. If it was judt about cost or development time, they wouldn't be throwing away $200,000 per month.
Scojo27	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:10:00 - [613] I have yet to see any one talk or even discuss the current changes of the classic client to the premium lite version. While I know its more work and the thoughts are that this is done to reduce work load. So you have more time to work on content. I think there will be more than just 3-5% people affected by this change. Most users I know in RL that play this game are on laptops. I myself I have both laptop and desktop and play eve mostly on my laptop. This change will basically subject me to my desktop only and reduce the time I have to play this game. To me the fact there will be more content but I wonÆt have time to play means nothing to me. Its one thing to get the basic client up to speed but you are changing it then pre-warning us that your even going to rise the requirements in what sounds like less than 6 months. From what I have seen the average laptop life span is about 2-3 years and with the increase of laptop sales to desktop I would say most users are possible half way thur that cycle. I will say I use a more low end laptop and I guess I would upgrade but its unlikely I will. So it leaves with one question do I want to hold to pay a game till dec when I wonÆt be able to play
Wathoom	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:12:00 - [614] I see some concernes here. I'm using linux to run premium client under wine. As far as i know premium graphics is not supported with official linux client. Would that leave linux users without official client because some cards are not supported like (ATI) or would it finaly bring premium content to us? Do you plan to release native linux client? Also removing shader2.0 cards by the end of year would be too fast. You should leave it for another year or two.
Milla Jovo	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:15:00 - [615] there is a dusty old box on my shelf that says C&C Generals,, I can still play that. Look I have 4 teenagers in my house. 2 of them and I play eve with 4 accounts. Only one of our pc's has a pcie slot witch i bought a video card for 2 months ago. I got the cheapest one for about 80 USD. now I need to get another one, I was going to try to update just one of my other pc's in Febuary,the others have agp slots. I am self employed in a shrinking economy. there is no way i can go out and buy a bunch of new hard ware for my pc's. Why should i even log into the game anymore if after 60 days i can't run it anymore? This is going to be bad news for my kids. CCP this is what is called "Bad Form"
Etren Stokk Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:16:00 - [616] Originally by: Wathoom Also removing shader2.0 cards by the end of year would be too fast. You should leave it for another year or two. One thing I can agree with is that the timing seems too quick. I think they should give it a year or two to sink in before taking that next step after introducing Premium Lite.
ordietrying	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:23:00 - [617] I am not a specialist of video programming, but there must be some way to completely disable shaders.This way people would be able play on an ultra light version, pretty ugly but high performance without any significant programming or regression testing work needed.
clone 1 Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:24:00 - [618] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Leeham I hate to disturb the argument here regarding people being excluded but will Premium Light graphically represent prenium or classic? Premium Light will be an "auto-generated SM2 version" of the current Premium art content (which is SM3). Then what benefit does dropping this Auto-generated SM2 version give CCP, as opposed to loosing 3-5% playerbase (according to 'What we don't know is exactly how many. We estimate..' We further predict ..) numbers. Why develop Premium lite if its canned 9 months down the line. Logic.. where is it.. show it to us.
zacuis Great Big Research	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:28:00 - [619] PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DONT DISCONTINUE SHADER MODEL 2 i just bought a netbook i use it to switch skills while on the run and play the market. it has onboard graphics and only does shader model 2. i`d be really upset to loose the use of it. also frankly i think premium client still needs some work i have a quad core 2.6mhz processor and BFG GeForce GTX 280 1GB graphics card ran under windows vista at home, and i still get noticable lag running 4 clients ( not much but its there compared to classic ). last time i couldnt run all my account at once i just stopped paying for 2. most people i know run at least 2 accounts some run as many as 12 ( more people than u would guess). saying that only 5% of customers will be affected is rubbish. true 5% may not have the minium specs but as most are using multiple cliets alot more are actually affected.
Etren Stokk Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:28:00 - [620] Edited by: Etren Stokk on 14/01/2009 21:30:19 Edited by: Etren Stokk on 14/01/2009 21:29:10 Quote: Premium Lite will only require ShaderModel 2.0 hardware, and far less texture memory than the current Premium, ensuring good framerates on older hardware. We won't stop there - we are providing two flavors of ShaderModel 2.0 compatible shaders, currently named "lo" and "hi". What does this mean? It means that framerate enthusiasts can get even more performance when running under ShaderModel 2.0. We will also allow people to select any ShaderModel below what their hardware supports - thus allowing players to trade quality for performance and vice versa. Quote: To summarize: older hardware will use the same assets as Premium - they just won't look as detailed and shiny. Quote: Step 1: In Apocrypha, March 10th, we discontinue support for ShaderModel 1, making ShaderModel 2 (GeForce FX (5 series) or ATi R300 series cards or compatible) the minimum requirement and discontinue the "Classic client" version of EVE, replacing it with "Premium Lite" Quote: Step 2: In the Winter Expansion 2009 we are considering discontinuing support for ShaderModel 2 and make the minimum specification ShaderModel 3 Okay, why can't you implement step 1, which even low end graphics should still be able to handle, even if they have to use the 'lo' setting and select a shadermodel that's "below what their hardware supports", and then simply modify step 2 to discontinue support for ShaderModel 2 in Premium only, leaving Premium Lite alone? Is that a technically feasible compromise?
Pichonsita Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:30:00 - [621] Originally by: clone 1 Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Leeham I hate to disturb the argument here regarding people being excluded but will Premium Light graphically represent prenium or classic? Premium Light will be an "auto-generated SM2 version" of the current Premium art content (which is SM3). Then what benefit does dropping this Auto-generated SM2 version give CCP, as opposed to loosing 3-5% playerbase (according to 'What we don't know is exactly how many. We estimate..' We further predict ..) numbers. Why develop Premium lite if its canned 9 months down the line. Logic.. where is it.. show it to us. they got little time for cofee break so they need more time for it, and that means less work to do, so they have to merge all in one and fuk all
M'ing Pai The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:38:00 - [622] To all who will be leaving in December: Your Stuff? Can I have? Gimmeh.
Gner Dechast Flashman Services	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:39:00 - [623] Originally by: Avon I couldn't care less if Classic won't have ambulation, I don't need it. Could this be the real reason, not wanting to do ambulation models etc. twice? I for one would also gladly accept no WiS and to keep classic. -- No expansions before holidays and no release until QA gives it's approval
Psycho Lordling GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:49:00 - [624] Edited by: Psycho Lordling on 14/01/2009 21:50:43 Originally by: Avon The servers farm out the same info to all clients. Also, Shader Models do not currently hold CCP back because they have two seperate clients. When they have one client, then shader models will be a restriction to development. The whole idea just seems silly, so I guess there must be another factor that they haven't told us about. Throwing away $2mil in revenue per year just so you can reduce your potential subscriber base .. doesn't that sound odd to anyone? Premium can stride ahead already, because people have Classic to fall back on. I don't care if Classic looks "old" .. in fact I would like the alternate scanline rendering back too, that looked awesome. We don't want CCP to make Classic like Premium, we just want to be able to continue to log on and play the game we love. I couldn't care less if Classic won't have ambulation, I don't need it. I just want to be able to take my laptop with me knowing I can log on and enjoy Eve where ever I may be. The clients are both just different frontends to the same data and tasks - there is no need to remove one of them, and keeping them both is better for the community. CCP can still develop the new Premium version, and maintain classic - they just don't want to. If it was judt about cost or development time, they wouldn't be throwing away $200,000 per month. so... I can on my 7 month old computer run 2 premium clients for 30 min before it crash or 5 clasic's from DT to DT... I turned off sound in 2004 and I never missed it. **** graphichs, fix lag. :condi: Even BOB gets this :ccp:
mattimus9	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:55:00 - [625] i don't understand why you people are getting all annoyed? to run an amazing game on a graphics technology now 7yrs old is amazing. they say that most computers should be replaced after 4yrs due to technology upgrades. to run any new game on a computer that old is always a struggle and CCP have to upgrade in the end otherwise EVE will become obsolete as other games improve. I won't be able to use my laptop but luckily I have a PC and a new PC to be able to take version 3 you can get for about ú400 so maybe its time for you to upgrade!!!
mattimus9	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:58:00 - [626] Originally by: M'ing Pai To all who will be leaving in December: Your Stuff? Can I have? Gimmeh. lol! is shot gun all gallente stuff!!!
Stradiot Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:05:00 - [627] Edited by: Stradiot on 14/01/2009 22:05:33 I'm on a laptop with shader 2.0 support so I'll be able to switch from Classic to Premium Lite but I can't use Premium. The change in March 2009 won't stop me from playing Eve but if CCP decides to drop shader 2.0 support in Winter 2009 they can kiss me goodbye. P.S. CCP, please don't drop support for shader 2.0
T92M Disturbing tha Peace	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:07:00 - [628] "They" say that so they get more money. Looks like my laptops out the window
Pichonsita Caldari FILTHY MINKY CORP	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:14:00 - [629] Originally by: mattimus9 i don't understand why you people are getting all annoyed? to run an amazing game on a graphics technology now 7yrs old is amazing. they say that most computers should be replaced after 4yrs due to technology upgrades. to run any new game on a computer that old is always a struggle and CCP have to upgrade in the end otherwise EVE will become obsolete as other games improve. I won't be able to use my laptop but luckily I have a PC and a new PC to be able to take version 3 you can get for about ú400 so maybe its time for you to upgrade!!! ignorant not everyone is from europe or has free money to spend, most have familly to attend to, bills, and all irl that can have the pleasure to upgrade the computer. if u dont eat, u dont sleep, u dont get ill, then maiby a 80% can have all the comps at date, think about everybody before saying something. and ccp one thing : more ppl = more money u get, why the fuk u want to have less ppl ?
LordRyan77 Gallente Ooops Inc.	Posted - 2009.01.14 22:17:00 - [630] Originally by: mattimus9 i don't understand why you people are getting all annoyed? to run an amazing game on a graphics technology now 7yrs old is amazing. they say that most computers should be replaced after 4yrs due to technology upgrades. to run any new game on a computer that old is always a struggle and CCP have to upgrade in the end otherwise EVE will become obsolete as other games improve. I won't be able to use my laptop but luckily I have a PC and a new PC to be able to take version 3 you can get for about ú400 so maybe its time for you to upgrade!!! Thats all fine and dandy as long as I don't have to replace my +$3,000(+ú2,300) 24 MONTH old PC. LordRyan77

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