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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Bright on 20/08/2009 18:51:42
In the recent patch CCP decided to put a 2 second delay on scanning, you can still click the button repeteadly, but it will now only update 2 seconds instead of the normal "every time you click".
No, seriously, a delay on scantiming? How the hell ya gonna check a 50 au systems different celestials in a inty, in the 2 second scantimer delay you will have passed over 30 au... YES there is now a scan timer delay - Thats messed up :/
I could understand making it a 0.10 second delay or even 0.3, but 2 seconds is rediculous for interceptors and the like. |
Bob Mc
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:47:00 -
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Yep undo please :( /signed |
gazarsgo
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:50:00 -
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Signed. Narrowing people out at different belts with the scanner just got a lot harder. |
Mendolorian Girl
Caldari
Can't Decide
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:54:00 -
[4]
this is as dumb as a box of rocks (or Jester :p) |
Izo Alabaster
Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:56:00 -
[5]
Agreed. In a situation that requires very quick and exact timing to scan down hostiles, this change has a drastic negative impact on the playability of the game.
Please lower it to .1 seconds. |
Sunabi
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:56:00 -
[6]
Signed. Even a 0.1 delay would filter out a lot of spam clicking but 2 seconds is just way too much. |
D Julez
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 18:57:00 -
[7]
signed for a 0.1 |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:06:00 -
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How do you check 50 AU in an inty? Well, they have these things called "probe launchers"...
No, the anti-lag feature should stay. Expand the range on directional to solve some of these problems, maybe, but don't bring back laggy directional spam.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:12:00 -
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Probe launcher on an inty? Good one, And scanning down someone to a belt = 1 second. Probing down someone to a belt = Placing probes in position + clicking scan would be 30-40 seconds depending on how fast you are.
Also, for that reply I would wager you do not actually play the game. And scanning hardly has anything to do with lag, putting it down to a 0.1 or 0.3 delay would evaporate any lag that is currently.
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admiral drakus
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:17:00 -
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confirming yet another ccp fail |
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tim omarkson
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:18:00 -
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Yes, back to the old setting
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CarbonFury
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:20:00 -
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Agreed. This is f'in stupid.
You didn't even mention the fact that if you jump into system and are trying to narrow a ship in a belt that carebear now has a huge amount more time.
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MitchPT
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:21:00 -
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GG CCP..... -_-
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Don Pellegrino
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:28:00 -
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PLEASE edit your post and click the "Support this topic box" or it won't be counted. (/signed is useless in Assembly Hall)
It is a huge nerf to pvp. It's the first time that I am REALLY disappointed by this game.
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LOPEZ
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:30:00 -
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agreed. CCP, making 0.0 as safe as high sec 1 update at a time.
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Natural Selector
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:38:00 -
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JZIM
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:41:00 -
[17]
Supportin'
Directional scan was terrible enough already without it nerfing if further.
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Mangold
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:56:00 -
[18]
I liked when the devs actually played the game and understod what consequences their nerfs have.
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Nibbix
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:56:00 -
[19]
brill idea really shows you thought it through but at the end of the day it's a numbers game and you can count me against this.
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Solasta Kovacs
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Solasta Kovacs on 20/08/2009 19:57:59
Agreed. Ratters just got even safer.
Jump in- scan. Raven on scan. Narrow it down... wait two secs... hes in oone of three belts. wait 2 secs to narrow it down to each...
Oh hes safespotted.
Part of the overall plan to make ratters pretty much fireproof- which I thought was against the ideals of the game. Wheres the risk if people cant scan you down?
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:07:00 -
[21]
Meh.
Standard patch day whine-a-thon.
--Vel
You're killing me Smalls!
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:08:00 -
[22]
 Originally by: Solasta Kovacs
Edited by: Solasta Kovacs on 20/08/2009 19:57:59
Agreed. Ratters just got even safer.
Jump in- scan. Raven on scan. Narrow it down... wait two secs... hes in oone of three belts. wait 2 secs to narrow it down to each...
Oh hes safespotted.
Part of the overall plan to make ratters pretty much fireproof- which I thought was against the ideals of the game. Wheres the risk if people cant scan you down?
You do realize there are other ways to find a ship in a system right? Even in a safe spot?
--Vel
You're killing me Smalls!
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Mangold
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Solasta Kovacs
Edited by: Solasta Kovacs on 20/08/2009 19:57:59
Agreed. Ratters just got even safer.
Jump in- scan. Raven on scan. Narrow it down... wait two secs... hes in oone of three belts. wait 2 secs to narrow it down to each...
Oh hes safespotted.
Part of the overall plan to make ratters pretty much fireproof- which I thought was against the ideals of the game. Wheres the risk if people cant scan you down?
You do realize there are other ways to find a ship in a system right? Even in a safe spot?
...and probes will get him before he warps to a pos, docks or logs right?
good thinking.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: De''Veldrin on 20/08/2009 20:19:55
Originally by: Mangold
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: Solasta Kovacs
Edited by: Solasta Kovacs on 20/08/2009 19:57:59
Agreed. Ratters just got even safer.
Jump in- scan. Raven on scan. Narrow it down... wait two secs... hes in oone of three belts. wait 2 secs to narrow it down to each...
Oh hes safespotted.
Part of the overall plan to make ratters pretty much fireproof- which I thought was against the ideals of the game. Wheres the risk if people cant scan you down?
You do realize there are other ways to find a ship in a system right? Even in a safe spot?
...and probes will get him before he warps to a pos, docks or logs right?
good thinking.
I don't seem to have problems finding people with them. Maybe you're doing it wrong.
The part about this I find to be very ironic is that before the patch all the mission runners were complaining about how it would make it harder for them to watch out asshats like you.
Now you lot in here *****ing about how much harder your job is.
FFS - it's like a damned kindergarten playground around here this week.
--Vel
You're killing me Smalls!
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Ikoma Sunblazer
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:23:00 -
[25]
Originally by: De'Veldrin
You do realize there are other ways to find a ship in a system right? Even in a safe spot?
Mission runner spotted
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Mangold
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:25:00 -
[26]
just had a look on eve-kill and battle clinc of you and your corp.
thanks for your valuable input. Do you tutor people? I am sure I have lots to learn about pvp from you.
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Dexion Slayer
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:28:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Dexion Slayer on 20/08/2009 20:31:45
why was this change exactly necessary? It lowers the killing potential... i dislike that..alot.
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:31:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Mangold
just had a look on eve-kill and battle clinc of you and your corp.
thanks for your valuable input. Do you tutor people? I am sure I have lots to learn about pvp from you.
You're welcome for the input. It's nice to be apprecitaed.
I do have to forgo the opportunity to offer my tutoring services however. Since you only seem to judge the worth of people by their killboard (aka epeen) I'm not entirely sure the lessons would stick, and I'd hate to waste your money.
--Vel
You're killing me Smalls!
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Tortugan
F9X
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:39:00 -
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This thread needs moar CH tbh :P
CCP said in patch notes that this change was being made purely to combat lag, which means that any other effects it would have on game play are unintended.
Clearly, this change is effecting more than just lag- both carebears and PVPers alike have been compaining about it; and for that reason, I support the reversal of this change, or reducing the delay signifiantly.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:41:00 -
[30]
Carebears and pvpers unite, Repell this evil "Feature"
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demonfurbie
Covert-Nexus
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:43:00 -
[31]
well there goes plexing in 0.0
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LOPEZ
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:49:00 -
[32]
Originally by: De'Veldrin
I don't seem to have problems finding people with them. Maybe you're doing it wrong.
The part about this I find to be very ironic is that before the patch all the mission runners were complaining about how it would make it harder for them to watch out asshats like you.
Now you lot in here *****ing about how much harder your job is.
FFS - it's like a damned kindergarten playground around here this week.
yea... cause watching local is SO HARD!
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:51:00 -
[33]
Originally by: LOPEZ
Originally by: De'Veldrin
I don't seem to have problems finding people with them. Maybe you're doing it wrong.
The part about this I find to be very ironic is that before the patch all the mission runners were complaining about how it would make it harder for them to watch out asshats like you.
Now you lot in here *****ing about how much harder your job is.
FFS - it's like a damned kindergarten playground around here this week.
yea... cause watching local is SO HARD!
Thank you for missing my point.
--Vel
You're killing me Smalls!
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Aya
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:53:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Aya on 20/08/2009 20:55:38
Originally by: gazarsgo
Signed. Narrowing people out at different belts with the scanner just got a lot harder.
What do you expect when the NC votes itself into the CSM slots
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king jks
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:55:00 -
[35]
Absolutely stupid addition.
Get rid of it, i support this thread.
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Jogvan
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:56:00 -
[36]
Signed.
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Nira Razor
Caldari
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:56:00 -
[37]
/signed
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Mangold
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:57:00 -
[38]
Originally by: De'Veldrin
Originally by: LOPEZ
Originally by: De'Veldrin
I don't seem to have problems finding people with them. Maybe you're doing it wrong.
The part about this I find to be very ironic is that before the patch all the mission runners were complaining about how it would make it harder for them to watch out asshats like you.
Now you lot in here *****ing about how much harder your job is.
FFS - it's like a damned kindergarten playground around here this week.
yea... cause watching local is SO HARD!
Thank you for missing my point.
Thank you for contributing to thread about stuff you nothing about. Go out roam and try catching stuff and come back and tell me how easy it was.
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Thi0ridazin
Monastery of Eternal Life
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Posted - 2009.08.20 20:58:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Thi0ridazin on 20/08/2009 21:08:24
/Signed.
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TractionControl
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:02:00 -
[40]
/signed
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Neily
The Circle
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Izo Alabaster
Agreed. In a situation that requires very quick and exact timing to scan down hostiles, this change has a drastic negative impact on the playability of the game.
Please lower it to .1 seconds.
I agree. Change it, don¦t make sense how he is now.
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ramand
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:07:00 -
[42]
/o Signed
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danneh
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:11:00 -
[43]
Edited by: danneh on 20/08/2009 21:12:03
This needs to be looked at straight away, not tomorrow, not next week, hotfix, lets make it happen CCP.
Danneh! \o/
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Can't Decide
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:13:00 -
[44]
/signed
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CarbonFury
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:19:00 -
[45]
Make sure you guys aren't just typing /signed. You need to put a check in the "Support this thread" box.
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:31:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Wasted Skillpoints on 20/08/2009 21:37:56
Another horrible nerf to something that was fine. Stop nerfing **** that is fine and fix all the **** that is broken.
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JitaBum
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:32:00 -
[47]
Support this completely, stupid and ill-concieved nerf
People need to click the frickin box ffs not just a /signed 
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Aragorn Angelus
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:32:00 -
[48]
Please CCP Remove an utterly awful change
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Ford Chicago
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:45:00 -
[49]
Because there aren't enough CH in this thread yet, signed and supported.
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Daniel Borealis
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:47:00 -
[50]
Did we really need another nerf to solo pvp and scouting?
Changing a VITAL part of intelligence gathering to the point where it has reached near uselessness for the sake of "performance concerns" is extremely foolish.
If you want to have a game with perfect performance, you could simply remove all the players, weapons, and spaceships, and the dev's could roll around in shuttles checking out their cool little universe. Performance is NOT an excuse for a amputated game experience.
On top of that the actual implementation of the nerf is awful. No visible timer, a notification message that appears in the center of the screen...
Good work. Change it back, now please.
Translation And Grammar Service
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GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:56:00 -
[51]
threadnaughting this now
undo this pls
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Halsoy
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 21:58:00 -
[52]
F'in stupid piece of ****... fix please!
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Kaiser128
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:04:00 -
[53]
signed
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Andeir
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:04:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Daniel Borealis
Did we really need another nerf to solo pvp and scouting?
Changing a VITAL part of intelligence gathering to the point where it has reached near uselessness for the sake of "performance concerns" is extremely foolish.
If you want to have a game with perfect performance, you could simply remove all the players, weapons, and spaceships, and the dev's could roll around in shuttles checking out their cool little universe. Performance is NOT an excuse for a amputated game experience.
On top of that the actual implementation of the nerf is awful. No visible timer, a notification message that appears in the center of the screen...
Good work. Change it back, now please.
I wrote this for him, so...
/signed
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Jazzadanub
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:04:00 -
[55]
/signed
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:08:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Andeir
Originally by: Daniel Borealis
Did we really need another nerf to solo pvp and scouting?
Changing a VITAL part of intelligence gathering to the point where it has reached near uselessness for the sake of "performance concerns" is extremely foolish.
If you want to have a game with perfect performance, you could simply remove all the players, weapons, and spaceships, and the dev's could roll around in shuttles checking out their cool little universe. Performance is NOT an excuse for a amputated game experience.
On top of that the actual implementation of the nerf is awful. No visible timer, a notification message that appears in the center of the screen...
Good work. Change it back, now please.
I wrote this for him, so...
/signed
Bullcrap you did : <
However, as any pvper of any sort of competence should be in full agreement, I guess we do share the same opinion. If this is the first step in changing the scanner in such a way as to not require spamming of the "Scan" button, or integrating it more fully into the system scanner arrangement then that's a good thing.
Unfortunately the current implementation is awful.
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Gibson Rothman
Shadowed Souls
Violent Society
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:18:00 -
[57]
Signed |
Amber Bock
Trojan Trolls
Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:19:00 -
[58]
So is this why ccp announced dust?
/signed
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rEvolutionTU
Liquid Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:19:00 -
[59]
I already posted this in the deployment thread, guess it's good to crosspost here.
Quote:
Quote: The Directional Scanner can now only be activated once every 2 seconds. This has been done due to performance concerns and exploits.
This is just horrible in my opinion.
a) You can't see people who decloaked for just a few seconds (e.g. when decloaking after jumping in or when they landing at a gate and decloak before they jump out) anymore unless your timing is lucky. Right now it is the job of good scouters to keep spamming scan which results in skill > luck instead.
b) You can't time many things correctly. 2s delay means 6au to 27au someone got closer to you. Especially in fast roaming gangs / sniping hac gangs its crucial to see how far the enemy is spread out and to get exact information asap. 2 seconds are a lot of time there.
c) When hunting people or e.g. ratters decent scouts keep checking belts they are not warping to midwarp right now. It works because there is no delay between scans, here again 2s delay in an interceptor is just huge. Also, 14au scan range + 27au warp distance within 2 scans doesn't mix too well.
If there really has to be a fix for performance issues I'd suggest a delay which relates to the systems current performence, aka a relation to the normal lag you get in systems with more people in them. While 2s delay are insane and horrible in a system with 10 people in it they pretty much don't matter in a system with 150 people when it's slowly getting laggy anyway.
Also I'd suggest (if this increases overall performance) a delay in highsec, but way less or no delay at all in lowsec/0.0
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TheUnknown
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:24:00 -
[60]
word..
/signed
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DiddyW
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:25:00 -
[61]
Edited by: DiddyW on 20/08/2009 22:25:40
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NightANgel7
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:29:00 -
[62]
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Mal Neutrino
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:31:00 -
[63]
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Bluetippedflyer
82nd Gallente Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:34:00 -
[64]
agree
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Misses Meow
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:43:00 -
[65]
If anything do it for efram the ******ed rabbit.
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Cynthia Ysolde
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:50:00 -
[66]
yep, this is a really dumb change
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S1r Minealot
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:52:00 -
[67]
meh
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.20 22:52:00 -
[68]
I wrote this in General Discussion, but it's more appropriate for this thread:
I live in 0.0 and often times I try to scan down farmers at asteroid belts. The best way to do that is to warp to a planet with many belts around it, reduce your directional scanner angle to 15 degrees, and start point-checking 1-20 belts as quickly as possible.
The time it takes to scan 1 belt and aim for the next belt with a scanner is just under a second. 1 second tops. 2 seconds definitely creates noticeable lag when trying to scan 10~ belts. This mostly benefits the defender - the farmer.
But aside from extra benefit to farmer, the main problem here is the high level of annoyance this would create for everyone scanning belts. I'd say, this sacrifice is definitely not worth it any slight server performance improvements. Unless CCP can show us direct evidence that this change helps a lot of people have better game experience, or there are many willing who will testify that they have much less lag with the new scanner mechanic - CCP should undo this game change. If CCP has any shred of care for the community left, enough to put aside their huge ego, they will do this.
CSM people have the opportunity to do real good to the community. Unlike most other issues, this one is the simplest and offers the greatest benefit for the effort. If they can do anything, they should resolve this issue.
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eClara
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:02:00 -
[69]
/signed
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juaN pachangA
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:04:00 -
[70]
i`m in
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Togalosh
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:04:00 -
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Railwhore
Advocates of Sin
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:07:00 -
[72]
get rid of the delay. No 1 second or half second. Just get rid of it!!!!!!!
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Junior Gleam
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:12:00 -
[73]
<-- scout/inti pilot...
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Graies Marquees
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:14:00 -
[74]
Signed, yup take this off!
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Nexus12
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:18:00 -
[75]
2 second delay.....? Are you ****** 
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Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:20:00 -
[76]
Revert changes. Signed.
The Cerbmeister |
Diandathu
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:20:00 -
[77]
signed
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EveJoker
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:23:00 -
[78]
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Clipparius
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:26:00 -
[79]
signed, really bloody annoying now
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TinkerHell
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:26:00 -
[80]
This is annoying, and slows down scouting, i can no longer pin point people in belts while im in warp, with 2 seconds delay i could of past the entire cluster.. |
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Caeruleus Ardea
Monsters
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:26:00 -
[81]
Supported by many mad pirates.
caer
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Ira Astrum
TEMPLAR.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:27:00 -
[82]
I think the best possible compromise between performance and gameplay here would be adjusting directional scanner time depending on the shiptype you're in.
e.g. Interceptors .2 sec delay, battleships the full 2 seconds.
This would have a positive impact on scouts, as they'd be able to find ratters with a greater degree of success, and would make solo ratting in potentially hostile space an altogether more unwise idea (as it should be anyway).
This would offer up a much more balanced solution to the lag problem, and is probably the best possible compromise in this situation.
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Eddie Gordo
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:28:00 -
[83]
+1
I'm out of practice with the directional scanner, but I'm not likely to get back IN practice with this nonsense.
Dust514 | Podlogs | Pluggit |
Aedun Sole
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:29:00 -
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ChaseTheLasers
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:29:00 -
[85]
Absolute terrible change. It needs to be reverted - sorry CCP.
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Caius Severus
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:30:00 -
[86]
It is now much harder to locate a target quickly on jumping in to a system. Terrible change.
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Cick Lunt
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:33:00 -
[87]
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Dyntheos
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:33:00 -
[88]
agreed, either revert the whole change or set the delay to a fraction of a second - 2 seconds is way too long
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Tizian Enel
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:37:00 -
[89]
When CVA and U'K agree that some feature is bad, it must be so.
/signed
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Tanso
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:38:00 -
[90]
agreed, this was a bad idea on ccp's part, this one needs to be reverted.
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Sabre Civire
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:38:00 -
[91]
Agree bad nerf ..
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ImRedYoureDead
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:40:00 -
[92]
Revert the change /Signed
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kyrieee
Brutal Deliverance
Novus Auctorita
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:41:00 -
[93]
This is a horrible change
I can't see them not reverting it
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5 Liter
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:41:00 -
[94]
agreed, bad nerf.
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William Pierce
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:44:00 -
[95]
This is a bad change, signed
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Dante Templar
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:46:00 -
[96]
Reduce it to 1 sec. And it will still lighten server workload and still be usefull.
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NotFred
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:50:00 -
[97]
This is as much a nerf to solo roaming as removing MWD+cloak was. Lets hope it goes the same way as that did...
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Ambaire
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:51:00 -
[98]
Agreed. Change the scan delay to 0.1 second. Maybe 0.3-0.4sec absolute maximum.
2 second scan delay is UNACCEPTABLE.  |
Cenm
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:54:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Cenm on 20/08/2009 23:57:09
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Stubnitz
Exiled.
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:56:00 -
[100]
Horrible change!
please fix.
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Arn Novelus
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:58:00 -
[101]
This Idea is a stupid one, revert it
/Signed
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Saihras
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.20 23:59:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Saihras on 20/08/2009 23:59:18
agreed
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Seliah
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:08:00 -
[103]
Definitely makes it a lot harder to scan down anything or even to check what's in system while warping around ...
/signed
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Celestia Hawk
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:11:00 -
[104]
/signed |
RickyBoby
Caldari
4 wing
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:15:00 -
[105]
/signed
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Coupo
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:17:00 -
[106]
Totally signed, scanning ruined it is.
I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later |
Annu
Minmatar
Satanic Nu Nu
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:18:00 -
[107]
/signed!
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Darkopteron
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:20:00 -
[108]
Supporting this, because this issue is seriously game-breaking for me, and as I'm often scouting for targets the delay is just unacceptable. As others here have said, it's about moving the angle around and hitting scan in the direction of different celestial objects quickly. Pre-patch I could get a target ship to 5 degrees within 5-10 seconds, now it can take 20+. As the original poster mentioned, scanning whilst mid-warp is badly affected, especially with interceptors.
The bare minimum delay I would be okay with is 0.3 seconds, but I would prefer it lower than that or removed entirely.
/signed
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BUDKING
Gallente
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:20:00 -
[109]
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Matthew Fontana
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:26:00 -
[110]
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xXxSatsujinxXx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:32:00 -
[111]
This is almost as frustrating as the jumpbug, maybe moreso since ccp actually intended to do this one. 
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Jack Sparroxx
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:37:00 -
[112]
signed
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Commodore Atari
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:38:00 -
[113]
/signed
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Jhagiti Tyran
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:38:00 -
[114]
Totally unnecessary nerf.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:39:00 -
[115]
Can we get some CSM members that are supposed to represent us "normal players" on board with this so we know we aren't completely ignored?
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Ndbele
Exile Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:40:00 -
[116]
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shuckstar
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:41:00 -
[117]
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Jessica Bains
Silicon Moon
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:42:00 -
[118]
/signed
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Ceratin
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:50:00 -
[119]
Please reverse this, makes scouting/scanning for a target very difficult
-Cera
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Kriegbokk
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:51:00 -
[120]
CCP, please don't give free tickets to macro ratters
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:51:00 -
[121]
Realise it's a problem but....
Whenever I hear someone frantically clicking scan over TS all I can think about is "oh I wonder where the lag comes from".
Spamming the server with scanning is bad.
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Doakke
1st Steps Academy
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:52:00 -
[122]
Signed. Please undo it CCP
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Jessie Arr
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:56:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Jessie Arr on 21/08/2009 00:56:41
The delay is a huge issue. Any experienced PvPer often uses their scanner more often than the current system allows.
If you must have it, then introduce this delay only in systems with 200+ people. That way it doesn't contribute to fleet fight lag, but won't hinder day-to-day PvP and skirmish tactics where it is a deciding factor.
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Captain Alcatraz
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:57:00 -
[124]
Yet another solo pvp nerf... harder and more annoying to scan down people. Guess thats fine for the bears and farmers... |
Jonis Sinmaker
Valiant Logistics Inc.
The Purge Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 00:59:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Jonis Sinmaker on 21/08/2009 00:59:41
I think CCP needs to take the nerf bat to the nuts of the idiot who thought this idea was a good one, because obviously we don't need that guy reproducing and spreading his "vast wealth of wisdon"
CCP stop nerfing s h i t just so you have something to do.
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Jonis Sinmaker
VLINC Recruitment
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Ricky1989
Caldari
Militaris Industries
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:07:00 -
[126]
*signed*
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ScoRpS
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:11:00 -
[127]
Another fine, well thought out and market tested solution for a better gaming experience. You make me proud!
PS: I really do have a cv in the post.
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Robinh123
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:12:00 -
[128]
Signed, i understand that spamming it might stress server too much but 2 seconds is too much time, reduce it or better yet remove it.
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Kura Accipter
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:18:00 -
[129]
I've been pinpointing targets on the scanner for a long time now and its nothing like the olds days but thats ok; times change. However this change is too much, too harsh. This breaks the game experience for alot of people.
Signed
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zombiedeadhead
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:27:00 -
[130]
Signed.
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Lanu
0utbreak
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:29:00 -
[131]
signed!
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Slapchop Vince
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:30:00 -
[132]
Thank you CCP for turning all pvp into station camps.
/signed
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BREAK OUT THE VACUUMS! |
The Slayer
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:35:00 -
[133]
Supporting this idea
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Aegaeonos
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:38:00 -
[134]
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Only the Dead see the End of War -PLATO
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Karasuma Akane
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:42:00 -
[135]
My understanding is that macros/farmers were setup for spam-scanning on a continuous basis (basically, something new appears on scan ---> they logoffski), therefore causing excessive levels of server use and lag. 
A hint might be that graph in the Unholy Rage explanation a few days ago showing significantly less server stress with the removal of those macro/farmer accounts, as they were perhaps generating server use above and beyond the typical 'real' player?
As well as the patch note announcing it, which says "This has been done due to performance concerns and exploits." 
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Originally by: Richard Phallus
Originally by: Kyrial Tidolfas
damn spies.
Damn counter intelligence officers.
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Sir Muffoon
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.08.21 01:52:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Karasuma Akane
My understanding is that macros/farmers were setup for spam-scanning on a continuous basis (basically, something new appears on scan ---> they logoffski), therefore causing excessive levels of server use and lag.
A hint might be that graph in the Unholy Rage explanation a few days ago showing significantly less server stress with the removal of those macro/farmer accounts, as they were perhaps generating server use above and beyond the typical 'real' player?
As well as the patch note announcing it, which says "This has been done due to performance concerns and exploits."
2 seconds is far too long, 1 second or better, 0.5 second delay would still reduce lag.
Supporting, definitely a bad change. |
Jakus Cemendur
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:01:00 -
[137]
/signed, this is an awful change
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Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:03:00 -
[138]
Agreed. Roll this back please the idea is atrocious both in concept and implementation.
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Johnny Trigger
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:16:00 -
[139]
this is a nerf to both pirates and carebears. please revert.
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Cyzlak
Karkand Kampa
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:27:00 -
[140]
I just submitted a petition about a broken scanner that just gives an error now and no results, only to find that was a DELIBERATE patch change?
Get serious, if this was to prevent lag in fleets, yknow what. I just dont care. More people means lag will occur, however breaking gameplay in an attempt to fix it is ****ED.
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Tryptic Photon
Mad Bombers
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:33:00 -
[141]
signed ffs
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KrazyTaco
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:41:00 -
[142]
Signed, please revert the changes.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:41:00 -
[143]
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Lexang
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:44:00 -
[144]
Major problem, please undo. Even postin with my main for this.
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Thorvik
Valklear Guard
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:56:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Thorvik on 21/08/2009 02:56:59
Seriously CCP.
None of us want 0.0 any safer than it already is. This is just a ridiculous idea and needs to be reversed.
If you want to reduce lag, get rid of local.
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Van Steiza
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.21 02:59:00 -
[146]
SERIOUSLY UNDO...
Honestly this is RIDICULOUS.
They can make or break the chances of getting into warp and getting that target pointed. Those 2 seconds can be the time you hit it on a 5 degree begin your warp sequence and get on top of that target before he warps out. THERE VITAL!!
I am not just whineing Im making a valid argument here. I have gone out today and I have killed a few things using the scanner in its new form, and the 2 second delay has had some affect on the efficency.
Those 2 seconds are vital.
For a minor performance increase I think the choice of change was badly chosen. Look elsewhere rollback to the orginal system.
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Stop removing my Sig its fine!!!! Nerf Moderaters. |
Rojo Ocho
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:26:00 -
[147]
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Elridon
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:32:00 -
[148]
I have 17 million isk, can I help fix the scanner?
I'd be perfectly happy with a .1/.2 sec delay, but 2 seconds is a bit obsessive. |
Kodu Riik
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:34:00 -
[149]
supported and reasoning posted in feedback thread.
stupid stupid change which really frustrates people who know how to use the scanner to hunt. Roll back this change.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:44:00 -
[150]
Quite honestly, the worst change to happen to the game in the past 2 years. Makes it even worse they don't bother to explain any of the rationale outside of the blanket "server performance" BS.
Please undo it or post something serious explaining why it got nerfed the way it did (as in, pretty graphics and charts)
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:46:00 -
[151]
your nerfs, they are terrible
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Charney deGeoff
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 03:57:00 -
[152]
Good call, reverse this.
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2tone stevens
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:11:00 -
[153]
signed |
Siigari Kitawa
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:26:00 -
[154]
Friggin' unfair change.
Here is the reason they nerfed it:
People who were decloaking after gate transit were showing up on scanner before they were showing up on overview. This was causing people to gain a lock before the target "showed up" and created a lot of sad people and a lot of petitions.
What they did wrong:
They nerfed the directional scanner instead of providing a solution to the problem.
How to fix it:
Provide a protective amount of time that targets will not show up on scanner (in the area of 0.5 to 1 second) so that people cannot use the scanner to get a faster lock on targets. This is a direct nerf to the directional scanner and it affects the game everywhere, not just on gates.
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Jeats Conti
Cardamine Advanced Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:40:00 -
[155]
urgh
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Jeats Cheats
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:43:00 -
[156]
Agreed :)
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Serj Reaper
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:47:00 -
[157]
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VOMIT BURGER
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:47:00 -
[158]
terrible terrible change, carebears in providence rejoice! =(
real pvp'ers will post in this thread.
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Traug Desh
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:53:00 -
[159]
Signed.
The delay and the automatic refresh when changing the angle is frustrating!
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Xiphos Volund
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Posted - 2009.08.21 04:55:00 -
[160]
/signed
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Tiberius Rhavinia
Fatal Endeavors Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:01:00 -
[161]
I lag enough that it already takes more than 2 seconds between scan cycles. That doesn't keep me from scanning people down and killing them...
Seriously if you can't adapt to a 2 second delay, that's kinda pathetic really.
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rubico1337
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:02:00 -
[162]
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Tagami Wasp
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:04:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 21/08/2009 05:04:53
Agree, too much delay lets carebears slip away.
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Suitonia
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:06:00 -
[164]
Checking a belt cluster with 14 belts previously took me about 10 seconds. now it takes almost three times as long.
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Monkey M3n
Middle School Comedy Club
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:07:00 -
[165]
Rather have lag.. Reverse please
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Navigaytion
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:09:00 -
[166]
signed , ccp u've done enough allready for the carebears :)
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DeathEngine
Scythe Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:12:00 -
[167]
Supported.
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Nyphix
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:23:00 -
[168]
Signed.
lol'd |
Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:23:00 -
[169]
Signed, very bad change for all the good scouts in game.
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Micia
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:33:00 -
[170]
Terrible change. |
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Whispi
Chimera Raiders
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:41:00 -
[171]
/signed
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dedcupid
Gallente
Blackwind Securities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:51:00 -
[172]
So the care-bears really control the game then? I thought it was just a rumor...
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Czarna Stopa
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:56:00 -
[173]
signed |
Kapradian
Amarr
Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2009.08.21 05:59:00 -
[174]
signed
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Kelly O'Connor
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:05:00 -
[175]
Crazy 'fix' and once again proves CCP dont play the game too much before they decide to push through a change.
/signed x 100
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Sral TBear
Mark Of Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:08:00 -
[176]
The seas are growing. The wind will rip the sails.
Soon the captains will have to dock. The Brothers struggle, but the wind is to hard, the sails wil rip and be torn apart.
The guns will silence, the colours be taken down. The solo pirate is dying, he will drown.
Adapt or die! , the choise is yours. Join the blobs or start to cry.
Alone they stand, alone they die, for my dying brothers i will cry...."finF"
tx ccp for another nail into the coffin named solo piracy...
sorry to say....sandbox is getting smaller....
TBear
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:15:00 -
[177]
OP: Dscan range is 14.3 AU.
If you scan constantly flying in a 13.5 au/s interceptor, then you will have crossed 27 AU per dscan.
Given that you're scanning 14.3 AU in every direction every 2 seconds, you still scan every single bit of space that you did before.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox42
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:22:00 -
[178]
signed.
__________________
Look, a forum alt! |
g0ggalor
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:25:00 -
[179]
OMG THEY CHANGEDED SOMETHING!!!
TO TEH FORUMS!!!!!
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PMolkenthin
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:35:00 -
[180]
Change it back. Only a fool likes to 2 second rule.
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Shiroi Okami
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:37:00 -
[181]
Signed. Is CCP trying to make 0.0 space even safer or what? This is an absurd idea.
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Fasine
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:44:00 -
[182]
Signed.
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Ombey
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 06:50:00 -
[183]
Signed. Not a good move for us CCP, please reconsider.
2d EveMaps|My blog
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Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:08:00 -
[184]
signed,
now gimme my no delay back, I will gladly sacrifice a bit of performance for something we really need in our trade
if not, then give every outlaw in the game the ability to directly warp to what they find on the overview scanner
Federic 'Gilgamesh1980' Chopin
Supreme Commander and Diplomat of the Black Rabbits and Gurlstas associates |
The PitBoss
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:12:00 -
[185]
Support
Thank-You,
The Pitboss (Space between The & Pitboss)
Signatures by: Kalen Vox |
Nyveg
Hyperborea Re
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:15:00 -
[186]
Yes.
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Cassini Huygens
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:19:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Cassini Huygens on 21/08/2009 07:20:34
Signed.
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Natasha Zenith
Crushed Ambitions
Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:25:00 -
[188]
Yes, please get rid of this crap CCP! Worst Idea ever!
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John Burdell
Crushed Ambitions
Soldiers of Solitude
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:30:00 -
[189]
last minute nerf to hunting/piracy, eh? nice one ccp.
Next time remove warp disruptors and scrams at the same time /s
Supporting.
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Arron Wade
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:32:00 -
[190]
Supported.
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Neridah Tanz
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:42:00 -
[191]
please either rethink this or remove the delay placed on scanning, the 'balance' keeps going in one direction only
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Mekala Haphitur
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Posted - 2009.08.21 07:56:00 -
[192]
/signed
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Lady Vorax
Infusion.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:02:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Lady Vorax on 21/08/2009 08:02:17
/signed, it sucks genitals:)
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:05:00 -
[194]
Another server performance boost put in place because some server diagnostic tool says that performance can be increased by 0.001% assuming of course that EVERYBODY were spamming their directional scanner constantly previously.
That the diagnostic tool has an error margin of 0.05% is conveniently ignored.
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Mr. Science & Trade Institute
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Rye Contini
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:19:00 -
[195]
Signed
Terrible change is terrible.
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Eleniel Octere
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:26:00 -
[196]
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Grimglyn
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:29:00 -
[197]
Signed
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Raukho
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:37:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Raukho on 21/08/2009 08:37:43
supported we need to gank more bears
edit: alternativly give a 10 seccond delay upon entering local to ofset this nerf
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DanMck
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:40:00 -
[199]
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KeLLaX
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:45:00 -
[200]
most of the stupid things that CCP changes, are somehow reasonable at some point ... this is not! signed ... get rid of the delay pls or make it 0.1
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Tenchuu Khaan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 08:50:00 -
[201]
The scanrange doesn't fit to the delay and warp-speed. Period.
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roystonvasey
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:01:00 -
[202]
signed
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Awyn Lothr
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:07:00 -
[203]
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Max Teranous
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:21:00 -
[204]
Not only is the change really annoying if you're scouting, the UI change to support it is terrible. At least give us a timer or progress bar, or grey out the scan box until we can scan again please if you do keep the change.
Max 
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boabiski
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:23:00 -
[205]
Look at dat fukkin alt.
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woRt HoG
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:24:00 -
[206]
and dis one.
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Helena Trisaris
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:25:00 -
[207]
/signed
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teunsu
Eyes Of Ice and Fire
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:26:00 -
[208]
This needs to be undone asap, the timer ruins small gang pvp
/signed
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Whowoulddo suchathing
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:26:00 -
[209]
150 supports !
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DRACO selen
Krupp-Stahl
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:56:00 -
[210]
I realy like the basic "need for speed" idea to improve the game, however need for speed should NOT improve the game by "destroying" parts of it!
/signed
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sue AGPlant
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:56:00 -
[211]
awful idea is awful
useless large gap making macroing even easier, iritating as hell message in the center of the screen and no on screen hints to when you can actualy scan again
CCP: destroying the game we love 1 nerf at a time.
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Raa Jin
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Posted - 2009.08.21 09:59:00 -
[212]
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Garen Ragnek
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:06:00 -
[213]
Signed
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Reprimander
Failswarm
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:06:00 -
[214]
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Kazn Antilli
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:06:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Ira Astrum
I think the best possible compromise between performance and gameplay here would be adjusting directional scanner time depending on the shiptype you're in.
e.g. Interceptors .2 sec delay, battleships the full 2 seconds.
This would have a positive impact on scouts, as they'd be able to find ratters with a greater degree of success, and would make solo ratting in potentially hostile space an altogether more unwise idea (as it should be anyway).
This would offer up a much more balanced solution to the lag problem, and is probably the best possible compromise in this situation.
That does sound reasonable.
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Kazn Antilli
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:07:00 -
[216]
Signed. Signed. Signed. Signed.
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Itchy pants
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:09:00 -
[217]
signed
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Dark Soldat
The Green Machine
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:10:00 -
[218]
Yes.
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Rhalith
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:19:00 -
[219]
signed
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Dan Deoxys
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:31:00 -
[220]
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Christopher Reeves
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:39:00 -
[221]
So dumb it hurts
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Warin
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 10:51:00 -
[222]
Signed.
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Xious
Phaze-9
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:02:00 -
[223]
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RuhRoh
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:06:00 -
[224]
Save my PVP!!!
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Leon vanUber
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:12:00 -
[225]
/signed
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Urishkan Kharii
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:14:00 -
[226]
"Please can you hold still a second , no make that 2 whilst I recalibrate my scanner?!!,
thankyou your a diamond !"
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Canine Fiend
Black Serpent Technologies
Atropos.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:24:00 -
[227]
Signed. The scanner is a crucial tool and being able to scan repeatedly is a large part of the game.
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Eagle142
Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:27:00 -
[228]
Signed |
Horisontti
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:31:00 -
[229]
Stupid dev is stupid. |
Another Liberthas
Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:39:00 -
[230]
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Robelopethy
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:39:00 -
[231]
Signed |
Stupid1324
Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:39:00 -
[232]
Supported. Get rid of this horrible feature. |
draak noir
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:39:00 -
[233]
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Trik Aya
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:41:00 -
[234]
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Leo solunar
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:42:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Leo solunar on 21/08/2009 11:45:04
What was the exploit from scanning anyway? :(
Scanning midwarp has become inefficient :(
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Shalbriri Vetis
Cardamine Advanced Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:43:00 -
[236]
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hired goon
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:44:00 -
[237]
My god. How can people intelligent enough to use computers do something as stupid as complain about a TWO SECOND wait that was introduced not for any opinion of balance but to address server issues!? You should all be ashamed of yourselves!
This is a COUNTER-SUPPORT post 
-omg-
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Karin Tykrest
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:44:00 -
[238]
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Karazack
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:45:00 -
[239]
A nerf to PvPers probably brought upon us by scan button spamming carebears, that is just wrong.
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Beckzman
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:47:00 -
[240]
/signed
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Seliah
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:48:00 -
[241]
Originally by: hired goon
My god. How can people intelligent enough to use computers do something as stupid as complain about a TWO SECOND wait that was introduced not for any opinion of balance but to address server issues!? You should all be ashamed of yourselves!
This is a COUNTER-SUPPORT post
You have obviously never used your scanner, or at least not in an efficient way like most pvp'ers do.
I think we are all aware that CCP is making efforts to improve the servers and noone is blaming them for that. What we're all saying here is that this 2 seconds delay is just way too much and badly screws up the directional scanner. Several solutions have been suggested, hopefully CCP will reconsider this.
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Smuttler
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:48:00 -
[242]
remove this crap
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Anubis E
Ha'Menudim
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:48:00 -
[243]
signed
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chromez0r
Roving Guns Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:51:00 -
[244]
signed, bad idea
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robbyx
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:53:00 -
[245]
Edited by: robbyx on 21/08/2009 11:53:09
Unbelievably bad and short sight-shorted solution....
Signed.
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Aisline
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:54:00 -
[246]
/signed
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Pixnator
Caldari
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:54:00 -
[247]
signed
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Beasty Blade
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:54:00 -
[248]
signed
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Commoner
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:54:00 -
[249]
I agree, this is a serious nerf for the belt pirates in eve.
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mean candy
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:56:00 -
[250]
/signed
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Eefel
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:57:00 -
[251]
Annoying as hell, needs to be reverted. If the payload is that much better with this change the very least grey out that stupid button, getting spammed with nonsense in the middle of the screen during a battle is just 
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Aiko Leiko
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:57:00 -
[252]
What is the message here?
Abuse a feature by spamming the scan button all the time and in the end you get rewarded by a nerf that you made necessary but hits the people trying to kill you?
Yea, that sounds like a great concept....
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Riverat
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Posted - 2009.08.21 11:58:00 -
[253]
/signed
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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
Exxxotic
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:01:00 -
[254]
count me in
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Thrasher89
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:01:00 -
[255]
signed
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Blackend Sky
Phoenix Tribe
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:05:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Blackend Sky on 21/08/2009 12:05:11
Wonders which of the many ******s at CCP came up with that ****...flogg that bastard at fanfest
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Drug Kito
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:06:00 -
[257]
Another well thought of change made it onto TQ
/signed btw
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Mimaying
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:12:00 -
[258]
signed
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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:12:00 -
[259]
agreed. 0.1 or at most 0.5
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db T
M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:13:00 -
[260]
/signed
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Ruscky
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:14:00 -
[261]
signed,this aint good.
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Pete X
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:18:00 -
[262]
Signed!
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Tarac Nor
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:18:00 -
[263]
Edited by: Tarac Nor on 21/08/2009 12:18:53
/Signed
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macaquinh0
Idle Miners
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:21:00 -
[264]
/signed
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Anariel Andurill
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:26:00 -
[265]
/signed
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Wiaf
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:41:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Wiaf on 21/08/2009 12:40:48
Failfix undo
/signed
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Cuchulin
DEFCON.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:42:00 -
[267]
nearly impossible to scan cloaky ravens down now...remove that quick !
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Alex Rudd
Caldari
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:43:00 -
[268]
Signed, this makes me angry!
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ReaperTox
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:51:00 -
[269]
Signed!
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bournville
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:54:00 -
[270]
Edited by: bournville on 21/08/2009 12:54:20
/sighned
Please resize your sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal |
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El Liptonez
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Posted - 2009.08.21 12:59:00 -
[271]
/signed
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Khar Velsox
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:01:00 -
[272]
Two seconds delay is horrible, it makes scanning out targets take way too long compared to pre-patch.
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FleshDiver
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:03:00 -
[273]
signed
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:15:00 -
[274]
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 21/08/2009 13:14:51
/Signed
Seems CCP really do want to kill solo/small gang warfare. How suprising...
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Uncarian
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:15:00 -
[275]
Signed
Kind Regards, Uncarian
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leffet
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:16:00 -
[276]
/Signed
Shade threads is best threads.
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Abenham
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:20:00 -
[277]
/Signed
I hate the delay - but am slowly adapting to it.
The most annoying thing is the damn pop-up right in the middle of the screen - if that could be replaced with the button being greyed out with a timer like that of the probe scanning mechanic then the two second delay may become bearable.
Perhaps instead of this implementation there could be another? Something like a computer processor percentage bar for your scanner?
Like overloading modules - if you overuse the scanner (i.e. constantly spam it for too long while say ... idk... macro mining in a belt) it renders it unuseable for a long period of time (30/40seconds maybe even a minute.... maybe you even have to dock up and repair it or have some nanite paste handy).
It could have a quick cool down period if you haven't overloaded the scanner cpu unit but a long one if you have.
This could potentially allow a scout warping around to use the scanner quickly for a while until the pilot leaves warp and has to start actually piloting his ship - clicking buttons other than the scan button - allowing it to cool down.
With this in place an active miner in a belt (who isn't macro mining and actually watching local) can use the scanner in the same way as a scout to avoid being caught. However, a macro would not be able to constantly spam the scanner without actually breaking it.
Encourages active play from both hunter and gatherer - penalizes macro players.
Thoughts?
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Blaidd Ddrwg
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:23:00 -
[278]
Agreed.
This nerfs the game for anyone who ever played it properly. If this does not nerf you then you are doing it wrong.
I cannot help but feel that some devs need to sit down and actually look at the way the people who really care about this game actually play instead of how the majority of highsec missionrunners feel. I really dont understand why anyone would pay monthly to grind in order to make money to buy gear to grind more efficiently. Go play WOW.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:36:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Abenham
Perhaps instead of this implementation there could be another? Something like a computer processor percentage bar for your scanner?
Like overloading modules - if you overuse the scanner (i.e. constantly spam it for too long while say ... idk... macro mining in a belt) it renders it unuseable for a long period of time (30/40seconds maybe even a minute.... maybe you even have to dock up and repair it or have some nanite paste handy).
It could have a quick cool down period if you haven't overloaded the scanner cpu unit but a long one if you have.
This could potentially allow a scout warping around to use the scanner quickly for a while until the pilot leaves warp and has to start actually piloting his ship - clicking buttons other than the scan button - allowing it to cool down.
With this in place an active miner in a belt (who isn't macro mining and actually watching local) can use the scanner in the same way as a scout to avoid being caught. However, a macro would not be able to constantly spam the scanner without actually breaking it.
Encourages active play from both hunter and gatherer - penalizes macro players.
This might actually be the best idea ive read in a long time.
P.S. Make a cooler cyno effect more like the old one. Thats totally a game changing nerf for me :P
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Katanaha
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:53:00 -
[280]
lame ccp really fing lame
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TSSHeratix
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 13:58:00 -
[281]
Edited by: TSSHeratix on 21/08/2009 13:58:39
signed
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Your sig is too big. Sigs should be Maximum height: 120 pixels, Maximum width: 400 pixels, Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) - Karass Sayfo
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Seliah
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:00:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Abenham
Edited by: Abenham on 21/08/2009 13:33:58
/Signed
I hate the delay - but am slowly adapting to it.
The most annoying thing is the damn pop-up right in the middle of the screen - if that could be replaced with the button being greyed out with a timer like that of the probe scanning mechanic then the two second delay may become bearable.
Perhaps instead of this implementation there could be another? Something like a computer processor percentage bar for your scanner?
Like overloading modules - if you overuse the scanner (i.e. constantly spam it for too long while say ... idk... macro mining in a belt) it renders it unuseable for a long period of time (30/40seconds maybe even a minute.... maybe you even have to dock up and repair it or have some nanite paste handy).
It could have a quick cool down period if you haven't overloaded the scanner cpu unit but a long one if you have.
This could potentially allow a scout warping around to use the scanner quickly for a while until the pilot leaves warp and has to start actually piloting his ship - clicking buttons other than the scan button - allowing it to cool down.
With this in place an active miner in a belt (who isn't macro mining and actually watching local) can use the scanner in the same way as a scout to avoid being caught. However, a macro would not be able to constantly spam the scanner without actually breaking it.
Encourages active play from both hunter and gatherer - penalizes macro players.
Thoughts?
Hey, I like the idea :). Although i think the pre-patch scanner system was just fine, i trust CCP if they're saying that the scanner has to be changed in order to improve the performance, and your suggestion is a good solution to that, plus it adds an interesting dimension to the scanning, without completely screwing it up like it is now.
Let's hope CCP will even read this :)
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Bobroglaz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:04:00 -
[283]
doh
support
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:04:00 -
[284]
.5 of a second would barely noticeable, 1 second would be just about bearable. 2 seconds is a gigantic pain when trying to scan down a target quickly.
Alternatively:
Originally by: Ira Astrum
I think the best possible compromise between performance and gameplay here would be adjusting directional scanner time depending on the shiptype you're in.
e.g. Interceptors .2 sec delay, battleships the full 2 seconds.
This would have a positive impact on scouts, as they'd be able to find ratters with a greater degree of success, and would make solo ratting in potentially hostile space an altogether more unwise idea (as it should be anyway).
This person may be onto something here. Linking the rescan delay to the scan resolution of the player's ship (and perhaps making the scanner's results marginally delayed according to the target ship's sig radius too?) might be a way of salvaging this.
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Mellissa
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:08:00 -
[285]
CCP pls think before acting, next time.
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Liza la'fabre
Keep It Simple Stupid
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:09:00 -
[286]
Signed
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lord muckypup
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:09:00 -
[287]
Signed
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Cribb
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:11:00 -
[288]
Edited by: Cribb on 21/08/2009 14:16:16
Aah CCP Fixers of things that needed no fix, pls revert this.
A.S.A.P
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Lord Bana
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:11:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Lord Bana on 21/08/2009 14:16:31
Erm well /signed!
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fibrose
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:12:00 -
[290]
Edited by: fibrose on 21/08/2009 14:16:39
what 2 sec ... no way i'm a scout not a miner, I don't have time for this.
Revert pls.
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Beggarboy
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:15:00 -
[291]
/Signed
Ratting is so unsafe now
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Sarina Tillaar
Bladerunners
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:23:00 -
[292]
/signed
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Alvar Kesh
Ealurian Wolves
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:24:00 -
[293]
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:28:00 -
[294]
supported
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T'aun
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:39:00 -
[295]
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DarkFollower
The Edge Foundation
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:40:00 -
[296]
Edited by: DarkFollower on 21/08/2009 14:41:20
/signed
2 seconds dellay is stupid , maybe you wanted to do 0.2 seconds between scans that might have worked
Cap rechargers on PvP ships Suxxor monkey ballzorz!!
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Instapopper
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:46:00 -
[297]
signed
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Severiun
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:50:00 -
[298]
CCP please rethink this change.
spend some time optimizing the call to the server, instead of putting in the delay. it really makes solo pvp very frustrating.
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headweapon
The Flowing Penguins
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Posted - 2009.08.21 14:53:00 -
[299]
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Alex Galax
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:03:00 -
[300]
Was a horrible change.
/Signed
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Rottw Adleweh
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:04:00 -
[301]
signed
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Poreuomai
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:09:00 -
[302]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 21/08/2009 15:08:49
Originally by: Mr Bright
... in a inty, in the 2 second scantimer delay you will have passed over 30 au ...
Same for covo ops.
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Callibi
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:12:00 -
[303]
This is insane, change it back please.
/signed
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Moff Tigriss
IMpAct Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:15:00 -
[304]
Edited by: Moff Tigriss on 21/08/2009 15:15:42
Signed too
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AltBier
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:21:00 -
[305]
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:22:00 -
[306]
Hurr threadnaught. I'll bring it up at the next meeting. Due to database issues CCP are unlikely to change it back the way it was, however I'll push for a change to a 0.5 or 1.0 second (at most) timer (takes me about that long to adjust my angles, cause I'm pretty pro like that). I certainly agree that 2 seconds is currently far to long.
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gamertrav
Department of Defence
Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:23:00 -
[307]
Edited by: gamertrav on 21/08/2009 15:25:44
/Signed.
I'd sign it again, but there's probably a 2sec delay and an error message.
Originally by: Poreuomai
Edited by: Poreuomai on 21/08/2009 15:08:49
Originally by: Mr Bright
... in a inty, in the 2 second scantimer delay you will have passed over 30 au ...
Same for covo ops.
And it should be noted that these are the two most common ship classes used for scouting and scanning.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:24:00 -
[308]
some interesting ideas in this thread - especially the one tying scandelay to shipclasses - but overall a reduction to 0.5sec or even 1sec would also be sufficient.
therefore /signed
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Etriss Jiguiss
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:26:00 -
[309]
+1
2 sec is very lonnnnnng. And even in old scifi universes, scanners are more faster...
CCP invent the new-old-style-scifi, woot |
Asinne
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:31:00 -
[310]
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Raimo
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:35:00 -
[311]
Signed. Reduce the delay, and bypass CSM protocols on this one!
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Aerok
BSC LEGION
Strip Mining Club
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:44:00 -
[312]
/signed
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Aero Marec
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Posted - 2009.08.21 15:44:00 -
[313]
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40 Cent
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:18:00 -
[314]
2 secs is very longish
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Bunzan Cardinal
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:27:00 -
[315]
not supported. Was much easier to adapt then i thought it would be. Everyone needs to quit QQing.
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Valmieki
CORE Elements
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:31:00 -
[316]
signed
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Zed Jackelope
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:32:00 -
[317]
the Cry is strong in this thread.
not supported, but its always nice to know where people get their name.
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Ban in place for using inappropriate language and evading the profanity filter.
When Will I be able to post again? 09/03/09
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philip3000
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:43:00 -
[318]
signed
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Captian Kage
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:53:00 -
[319]
Signed,
Never lagged, never bugged, always nerfed.
Thus is the life of Outlaw.
CPP; please stop taking our bread and butter away...
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Malicia IV
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:54:00 -
[320]
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Lachesis VII
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 16:59:00 -
[321]
Really annoying nerf to piracy.
Signed and supported. Hotfix now!
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Minuteman
Gunship Diplomacy
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:00:00 -
[322]
/signed
Minuteman's Comic |
Theodore Kaczynski
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:09:00 -
[323]
Terrible implementation of a terrible idea. Half a second is reasonable, two is not. And give some feedback when we can use the scanner again, like graying out the button. The pop up message is terrible.
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Kronma Kequa
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:10:00 -
[324]
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Raivi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:30:00 -
[325]
Strongly supported.
This isn't an issue of nerfing any one particular playstyle or group, it's a significant blow to one of the most useful general-purpose tools in the game. A delay of 0.5 seconds would have my support, as it would stop the server lag from scanner spam without significantly delaying the use of the scanner for scouting and targetted information gathering.
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Angelina Ballentyne
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:37:00 -
[326]
Signed....
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Insa Rexion
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:40:00 -
[327]
/signed this is krep
I has 17 XBOX can I get sov ??
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Octavious Maxamus
Caldari
The Black Rabbits Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:55:00 -
[328]
Signed...
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Nauticaa
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:58:00 -
[329]
/signed
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Maurok Ortega
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 17:59:00 -
[330]
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Kombat PL
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:12:00 -
[331]
Srsly
If there was an issue or exploit with using directional CCP should focus to fix it and not whacking a hammer on game's funcionality like this therfore REDUCING PVP OPTIONS in game.
It was already goddam hard to scan ratter in belt and TONS of way to avoid beeing catched like LOCAL / WCS / Beeing in system with belts outside scanrange from gates / etc etc. And even with old system it was impossible to catch ratter even in inty when ratter hited warp just after You enter local. This change brings it to the point of absurd. Does CCP really want's to limit pvp options to blob warfare vel pos and gatecamps?
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Vir Hellnamin
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:18:00 -
[332]
Edited by: Vir Hellnamin on 21/08/2009 18:26:57
2 secs is too much - especially when in warp or narrowing the scanner angle on target and re-fixing the loc, but ADHD spanking of scanner can go out of the window. Also, get rid of that damn on-screen-longer-than-delay-time warning message - that's the biggest PITA with current scanner mess.
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"Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi [GRD]
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Kurimuzon Renkinjutsushi
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:23:00 -
[333]
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Szakal
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:31:00 -
[334]
+1
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Ryan Coolness
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:43:00 -
[335]
/signed
find another solution, this is just making belt piracy even harder then it already is with the all-mighty intel tool that is local chat
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Jonos B
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:43:00 -
[336]
Signed
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Shmak DatAmarr
Federation Republic
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:45:00 -
[337]
/signed
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Shmak DatAsh
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:46:00 -
[338]
+1
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Morbo Avarist
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:48:00 -
[339]
/signed
please revert
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Ze'p Maximus
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:48:00 -
[340]
Signed
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Shaky Clone
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Posted - 2009.08.21 18:50:00 -
[341]
/signed
remove this nerf to pvp
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Val Kox
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:08:00 -
[342]
rediculous change
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:09:00 -
[343]
Please increase scan timer to 10 secs
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mothyowns
teeny tiny space pirates
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:11:00 -
[344]
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/ |
OximusPrimeIIII
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:40:00 -
[345]
signed
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Lachrymal
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:43:00 -
[346]
Signed, this is the worst thing CCP has ever done. |
IamSickNess
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:44:00 -
[347]
Signed
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Yo Mofo
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:46:00 -
[348]
CCP stop....stop it now
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Gostyx
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:47:00 -
[349]
Edited by: Gostyx on 21/08/2009 19:47:11
/signed
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Woe to the vanquished. |
eXeGee
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.21 19:50:00 -
[350]
I fully support previous scanner.
Maybe 0.5 sec delay max huh?
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mystiq pwnzorg
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:01:00 -
[351]
+1
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EvE Templar
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:02:00 -
[352]
Agree
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luthorS Harkon
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:02:00 -
[353]
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Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:03:00 -
[354]
2 seconds seems too long. Supported.
The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation |
Nucanot
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:05:00 -
[355]
Signed.
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Supay
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:12:00 -
[356]
Agreed.
Either return to previous or find some way to improve the scanner system to achieve the same load reduction while not interfering with the basic scanner function as it was.
.
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Sybil Loc0
Body Count Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:23:00 -
[357]
signed
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Norman Negulesco
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:26:00 -
[358]
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Prez21
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:35:00 -
[359]
here be angry people with yellow hands
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Ikoras
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:44:00 -
[360]
Edited by: Ikoras on 21/08/2009 20:44:00
/signed
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Tor Lann
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:47:00 -
[361]
Indeed
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Devine13
Nomad LLP
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:52:00 -
[362]
just givin my support
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Kuentai
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:55:00 -
[363]
/signed
angry scout/raider/fc since 06 losing sanity here >.<
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Von Seth
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:56:00 -
[364]
/signed
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Hedliner
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.21 20:58:00 -
[365]
/signed |
Deathhawk
Hammersmith Hardmen
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:09:00 -
[366]
havent logged in but this is stupid
Chuck Norris wears Deathhawk pyjamas |
Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:10:00 -
[367]
Same level of gamebreak than cloak nerf and module activation delay.
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Calderus Rex
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:16:00 -
[368]
signed
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icy 1
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:17:00 -
[369]
signed 
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CruxArc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:17:00 -
[370]
Edited by: CruxArc on 21/08/2009 21:19:01
CCP please restore previous directional scanner.
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Oso Mafioso
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:18:00 -
[371]
/signed
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Rathnon Domitras
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:19:00 -
[372]
/signed
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Originally by: Savage Creampuff
TY for the snowballs
For halloween can we get corpse launchers???
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Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:30:00 -
[373]
Supporting
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Spike Larosse
RSP Enterprises
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:36:00 -
[374]
YES. Give us back our scanning backbone. 
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Abelard Solon
Minmatar
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:39:00 -
[375]
Supporting
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KaDiabl0
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:40:00 -
[376]
Supporting
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Greycap
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Posted - 2009.08.21 21:57:00 -
[377]
Supporting
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MrMaaX
Shadow Veil Industrial
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:00:00 -
[378]
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Badvar
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:08:00 -
[379]
Edited by: Badvar on 21/08/2009 22:10:31
/signed. Return it back to normal please. Nobody wanted this
throw some baddievars on it |
Crazy Tasty
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:10:00 -
[380]
/signed
Not only applies to the OPs situation, but many times in general PvP you need constant updates from scanner as that extra 2 seconds can mean the difference.
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// This is by design. When a ship jumps through a gate, it clears all aggression. // - BH ********
Pew on gate, if it gets hot, jump through and Ctrl-Q. Game mechanic endorsed by CCP. |
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Minchurra
Shadow Veil Industrial
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:10:00 -
[381]
Supported
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Lord Jamuga
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:14:00 -
[382]
/signed
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Leviathan Tank
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:15:00 -
[383]
Edited by: Leviathan Tank on 21/08/2009 22:15:43
i endorse this product
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xHP SAUCEx
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:25:00 -
[384]
i support this
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Skira Ranos
Blood Money Inc.
The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:33:00 -
[385]
Signed.
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Recruiting
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xsaracoast
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:34:00 -
[386]
signed
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Suboran
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:48:00 -
[387]
signed the delay makes it horrible to scan out ratters and whatever
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Chienka
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:50:00 -
[388]
As a covert ops pilot I have to agree. This change is a significant nerf to scanning safespots.
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Gehen Kralle
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Posted - 2009.08.21 22:57:00 -
[389]
Supported.....how I can scan ratters now ???!!!!???? CCP pls change it as it was before....it's a crap change....
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Marzzola
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:05:00 -
[390]
Edited by: Marzzola on 21/08/2009 23:06:01
seriously nerfed scouting/solo pvp and buffed ratters/miners. at least reduce the delay to 1 second.
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ViperPL
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:06:00 -
[391]
+1
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Mietek Cruise
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:12:00 -
[392]
Edited by: Mietek Cruise on 21/08/2009 23:15:48
Signed!!
Warp core stabs, cloaks and now even delay on board scanner?
Hard time became for hunters.
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Delavey
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:20:00 -
[393]
Edited by: Delavey on 21/08/2009 23:21:50
siiiiiiiiiiiiiigned.
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da Hawk
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:25:00 -
[394]
+1
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IceGuerilla
Poseidon's Wingmen
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:38:00 -
[395]
+1
All opinions expressed are of IceGuerilla and not of his corp/alliance. |
Straight Chillen
Solar Wind
AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:39:00 -
[396]
This was simply a terrible idea.
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Mes Devour
Infinity Enterprises
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:49:00 -
[397]
roll it back. delay is stupid and restricts solo and small gang pvp
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Kadra
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Posted - 2009.08.21 23:56:00 -
[398]
Stupid mechanic.
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Dartauw
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:05:00 -
[399]
Please go back to the time when U were sitting around the table and discussing lag prevention.
Please try to remember who first suggested the idea of delaying the scanner.
Now please fire him.
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AtheistOfDoom
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:08:00 -
[400]
signed
Pew Pew Lazorz!!! |
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Pherusa Plumosa
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:11:00 -
[401]
the 2 second delay timer would be ok, if you also delay the local by 2 seconds. btw why does local not get delayed do boost performance !? should give epically more performance than bugging the few pvpers who actually use the power of the range scanner...
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Andrea Skye
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:32:00 -
[402]
gayest thing ever implemented. |
Gjs312
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.22 00:45:00 -
[403]
Edited by: Gjs312 on 22/08/2009 00:45:42
Utterly horrible, quickly narrowing a ship on scan down to his location is pretty much the core solo or small gang skill atm and you just went ahead and made it impossible to find a belt ratter or specific ship in a system.
Do you guys even play this game anymore? 15-30 seconds at max if you dont want to break anything, or even better fix the ****ing servers instead.
-Gj
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Johnny thorir
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:11:00 -
[404]
this sucks bad CHANGE IT BACK
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Jodie Amille
Gunship Diplomacy
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:19:00 -
[405]
signed
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Kirishina
Ausbruch
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:42:00 -
[406]
Signed
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Myrkinia
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:43:00 -
[407]
Signed
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Amir Baki
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:48:00 -
[408]
signed, this is pretty rediculous tbh... good thinkin CCP
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Aestetica
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 01:51:00 -
[409]
U have my support.
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Sirokko
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 02:00:00 -
[410]
agreed
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MartyMorgy
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 02:05:00 -
[411]
Yeah.
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.08.22 02:13:00 -
[412]
Anybody who argues against this obviously doesn't scan, or doesn't do it as efficiently as others.
If you don't reset the 2 second delay, at least make that god awful notification banner go away.
It sticks around even after the delay is over, so you never really know when you can scan again.
Horrible change
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Trade person
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Posted - 2009.08.22 02:28:00 -
[413]
ADAPT OR DIE NOOB!!! Carebears stink!
Oh wait... wrong thread. Please carry on complaining. |
gwnorth
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 02:34:00 -
[414]
lose it
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Demon Azrakel
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Posted - 2009.08.22 03:43:00 -
[415]
Agree with this, scouts need some love from ccp...
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danaloo
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Posted - 2009.08.22 04:04:00 -
[416]
+1
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Inflatable Alt
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Posted - 2009.08.22 04:08:00 -
[417]
This new scanner change is terrible.
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Mevadem
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 04:11:00 -
[418]
/signed
Way to long of a delay... change it back.
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.08.22 04:20:00 -
[419]
I like it.
The timer is a good length.
Stops the exploits.
Means I'm no longer having the grid robbed of resources by a few ppl spamming the server.
Less lag for all, yay!
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Joseph Dreadloch
Out For Blood
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Posted - 2009.08.22 05:13:00 -
[420]
Not only has this made my piracy about 5x slower... it has made it more irritating than fun
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SuperUglyChick
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Posted - 2009.08.22 05:52:00 -
[421]
Where was the person with common sense when this was put into game, was he out for coffee?
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Jarek Naumen
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 08:11:00 -
[422]
I guess no dev actually uses the directional scanner in-game.
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olzi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.08.22 08:15:00 -
[423]
This is way too limiting, supported.
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Pesadel0
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.22 08:57:00 -
[424]
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Darekish
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:12:00 -
[425]
Signed.
This was a very bad change for everyone both hunter and hunted, please reverse it.
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Krugerrand
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:12:00 -
[426]
Edited by: Krugerrand on 22/08/2009 09:12:32
Yep, makes scanning near impossible in a lot of situations.
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SunOfSun
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Posted - 2009.08.22 09:15:00 -
[427]
plz undo this... it was fine before patch  |
ko0rt
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 10:12:00 -
[428]
Signed
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Hankey84
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Posted - 2009.08.22 10:38:00 -
[429]
signed
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yieasase
H3ad 4uarter 69
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Posted - 2009.08.22 10:39:00 -
[430]
one step forward, two steps backward
or welcome in the world of microsoft 
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Gunned Down66
Orion Katana
Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2009.08.22 10:52:00 -
[431]
RAWR i support this!
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Buhhdust Princess
Annihilate.
Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:04:00 -
[432]
Edited by: Buhhdust Princess on 22/08/2009 11:04:41
Scan nerf is unneccesary, CCP just wants carebears and isk buyers to get away comfortably in their Macro Ravens and miners.
CCP, why are your priorities so ****ed up? Seriously, do something right.
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Xeovar Stoner
Pink Bunnies
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:13:00 -
[433]
If there has to be timer, make it 0.5 sec. That prevents scanning and will be WAY manageable for real use.
--
"Learning is not compulsory...
neither is survival. "
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Llievit Nnang
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:18:00 -
[434]
i fully support to move back to the old scanner system. before the patch i hadn't thought it would be that bad. but damn, 2 seconds are long.
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Stirnak
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:22:00 -
[435]
2 seconds is too long. especially since it seems a premature click resets the timer for another 2 seconds without actually producing any scan result.
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S'ara
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:24:00 -
[436]
i don't approve of the changes introduced in 'crypa 1.5
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.22 11:51:00 -
[437]
Originally by: Buhhdust Princess
Edited by: Buhhdust Princess on 22/08/2009 11:04:41
Scan nerf is unneccesary, CCP just wants carebears and isk buyers to get away comfortably in their Macro Ravens and miners.
CCP, why are your priorities so ****ed up? Seriously, do something right.
This is why CCP recently banned over 9000 ISK farmer accounts recently? From what I'm aware the change came about due to these people causing a load on the server by constantly spamming their scanners and whatnot.
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |
Dungheap
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.22 12:12:00 -
[438]
Edited by: Dungheap on 22/08/2009 12:19:18
15 pages; took most of downtime to read. lots of experienced players in here make me believe this is more than just the whine du-jour.
however, calling people carebear, macroer, farmer, etc., doesn't help make your point. the style of game play you prefer doesn't make your account any more valuable than anyone else's. asking for changes reflecting the way you play, where you live, or the ship you fly, does not represent any kind of balance. ignoring the fact that 2 seconds scan does not leave gaps in the brief time that any ship is at top warp speed doesn't help the case, either.
ok, so throwing those posts out, to me this is another heavy-handed work-around that should have been dealt with differently.
there's many other ways the exploit could have been dealt with, as pointed out in several posts. a whole overhaul of the scanner could have reduced lag, while eliminating the server load caused by constant spamming of scan.
this quick fix only made the deficiencies of the onboard scanner stand out more than before. put an auto-timer on it; greyed out while unavailable. stop the auto-scan when you change degree setting. try a one-second delay; combined with a proper fix of the scanner should make the game playable for every style.
bad fix is not good, i'll sign.
edit to click support
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Eragorn Shadowkiller
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Posted - 2009.08.22 12:42:00 -
[439]
Edited by: Eragorn Shadowkiller on 22/08/2009 12:42:41
/signed
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Rhug
The 8th Order
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:37:00 -
[440]
get rid of it please o/
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:43:00 -
[441]
Reducing server load by removing or cripling vital game features is not acceptable.
Just undo this "feature".
Don't listen to players who claim the scanning delay is fine. They are either trolls or have never used the directional scanner.
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Rellik B00n
Lethal Death Squad
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Posted - 2009.08.22 13:49:00 -
[442]
REMOVE please
cruiser & rig BPOs
LDS kb |
PKlavins
Extinction Severe
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:07:00 -
[443]
...why???
Remove/minimize the delay... scanner was fine before this.
The new 7.5km web = web + scram = "Wamble".
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Kristos Valamache
Phaze-9
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:12:00 -
[444]
Personally, I'd say I'm average at using the D-scan. This change now affords me no room for improvement.
Change it back plz CCP.
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:19:00 -
[445]
wow, what an unfortunate turn of event. when its carebears that whines and cry, pirates and pvp'ers just have to say adapt and die turdbrain and go play wow.
well, thats what I can say to you homo's. adapt and stfu FFS.
ALL YOUR WHINING ARE EPIC...an epic fail that is lmao...have fun with the new feature lmao Im sure I am having fun
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Rex Rawhead
M. Corp Engineering
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.08.22 14:22:00 -
[446]
I tried the new scanner out today and was really disappointed in the way it has been changed, its allmost impossible to smoothly scan down a ship in the way it used to be, and its so anoying. Wee need the old scanner back!
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Ros Tin
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:07:00 -
[447]
Signed
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Tyremis
The Perfect Storm
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:20:00 -
[448]
ccp obviously didn't think this through. Instead of crippling scanning maybe get rid of some more macro players if u wanna speed up the servers. This is total fail ccp and u know it.
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Rixar
SteelVipers
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:27:00 -
[449]
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zergl
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Posted - 2009.08.22 15:30:00 -
[450]
Supported, it sucks badly in W-Space as well when you try to figure out at what planet and distance you'll have to start probing.
Especially when you try to pinpoint the distance to within a half or less AU it wastes lots of time.
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Reckoning 09
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:09:00 -
[451]
Please please remove it
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Mashashige
Eternal Perseverance Flight School
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:19:00 -
[452]
lol I love the fact someone brought this up, as I was going to it soon.
There was never any lag I've noticed associated with the scanner, and even if it lagged, at least it wasn't a CONSTANT 2 SECONDS LAG. I try to be supportive and constructive when I see an issue that I think CCP handled incorrectly - but (excuse my language) WTF were they thinking?
Anywho, supported.
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"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." |
Droog 1
Black Rise Inbreds
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:22:00 -
[453]
+1
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William Bellamy
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:27:00 -
[454]
this new delay will hurt both pirate and prey alike.
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inyreye
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:33:00 -
[455]
/signed
please put it back how it was! it makes scanning quickly horrible.
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The Djego
Hellequin Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 16:52:00 -
[456]
/signed
Or at least get this value down to something like 0,5-0,3 seconds what would be more in line with the human reaction time.
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Nerf Tank - Boost Gank!
Originally by: Amantus
Real men don't need to get into blaster range.
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Vonn Gauser
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:20:00 -
[457]
It's annoying, you shouldn't improve server's performance by limiting gameplay. /signed
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Karando
Random Goods
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:38:00 -
[458]
Undo this ****. Limit maximum mouse clicks for carebears in high sec, but not a crucial game feature.
_____________________________________________
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
I got exactly 68000 victory points.
According to FW-stats, that puts me on 5th place.
Kills are meaningless.
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Wuotan I
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:44:00 -
[459]
+1 to voices against this change. Please remove delay.
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Die Kutte
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:47:00 -
[460]
fix it
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Guriko
Disgruntled Pilots Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:47:00 -
[461]
UNDO THIS CCP FFS
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nixal
Random Goods
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Posted - 2009.08.22 17:55:00 -
[462]
2sec delay is bad, mkay?
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Ramsfeld
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 18:19:00 -
[463]
Signed
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Sparkamatron
The 0ri
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.08.22 18:23:00 -
[464]
support.
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Clementina
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.08.22 18:24:00 -
[465]
I would like to lend my support to this topic. I have posted my piece in the other thread.
Perhaps the delay should be 1/2 to 3/4 of one second.
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Cpt Branko
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.22 18:29:00 -
[466]
The 2s delay is far too long. I'd understand 0.5s or something... but this is far too long.
Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Kovorix
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:01:00 -
[467]
please change this. you've already nerfed solo pvp enough.
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HUNCHBACK
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:03:00 -
[468]
/signed
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FinalFlash84
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:06:00 -
[469]
/signed
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Final Flash
Rokhasm |
Laira Ohtar
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:18:00 -
[470]
Signed
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Uronksur Suth
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:23:00 -
[471]
No, this was implemented because of excessive server calls when people click "Scan" as fast as they can. I think there simply needs to be a new mechanic.
Or reduce the timer to 1 second. The whole idea is that you can't scan as fast as you can click, maybe 2 seconds is excessive. But doing away with the scan timer entirely probably won't happen.
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lucifers widow
3rd Kador lancers
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Posted - 2009.08.22 19:42:00 -
[472]
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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.22 20:02:00 -
[473]
Supported.
_____________________________________
Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout
:facepalm:
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.22 20:31:00 -
[474]
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Lunewraith
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.08.22 20:37:00 -
[475]
I could accept some delay, but 2 sec is an eternity when trying to catch someone. By the time you enter local, your target is already aliging to a safespot or celestial (if not cloaking). Any delay in scanning means the chance he gets away is that much more likely.
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techzer0
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.22 20:56:00 -
[476]
Supported... I still miss the Red Moon Rising scanner with the directional window in it. That was the best
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2009.08.22 21:27:00 -
[477]
Edited by: Dr Cron on 22/08/2009 21:27:17
Really hope this one gets pushed through for a reconsideration. Even if there needs to be some anti-spam built in, there are MUCH better ways to do it.
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sicieler
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.22 22:36:00 -
[478]
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Tomeus
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 22:51:00 -
[479]
Edited by: Tomeus on 22/08/2009 22:53:24
Signed
Line to join Bears! |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.22 22:57:00 -
[480]
Edited by: Yahrr on 22/08/2009 22:57:29
I don't mind the scan delay much... However, thanks to this people are gonna keep Local-chat even closer. Local-chat should go away imo, but with the current scan system that is not possible.
Second, is the way they did the delay. Instead of masking out the scan button for two sec, you can still click the button and a message appears. And I got the feeling that everytime I click the button within the 2 seconds, that it counts as a new scan and the message gets updated while the effect does not. Result is that my 3rd or 4th scan works, but I still see the message.
If they could just darken the button and make it unclickable for the two seconds, then it is fine to me.
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
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S3ND3TH
Gallente
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 23:02:00 -
[481]
/signed
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Samuel Wess
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Posted - 2009.08.22 23:18:00 -
[482]
/sign
me |
THE R3APER
Pilots Of Honour
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.08.22 23:33:00 -
[483]
/signed
I need my scanner to work when I ask it to.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:06:00 -
[484]
supported. if the lag is really that bad, then delaying it will not fix it.
_______________________
with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
<-- this is your brain on boosters
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:28:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
supported. if the lag is really that bad, then delaying it will not fix it.
uhh, what ??? wow, you must be living in a cave. do you know how many packets or info are sent when somone spam that button like 3 million time in 2 seconds ?
Seriously, if you dont have any intel or info about how network works, just stfu. and btw, adapt or go play wow. Isn't that what pirates and pvp'ers say when carebares whine and cry about a pve nerf or anything related to carebears.. lmao.
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Azerdan
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:50:00 -
[486]
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Bezzell
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:52:00 -
[487]
Signed. Fix the scanner.
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Fluffy McCraphound
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Posted - 2009.08.23 00:54:00 -
[488]
signed. fix it.
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Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:07:00 -
[489]
Originally by: RedSplat
The Forum moderation Software known as Mitnal became self aware. CCP had no choice but to shut it down.
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Jared D'Uroth
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:08:00 -
[490]
Terrible. This is so bad.
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Quote:
I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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leboe
Dark Star Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:09:00 -
[491]
Lark, don't fail me like we failed to kill your orca.
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Duncan Tanner
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:18:00 -
[492]
support |
Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:20:00 -
[493]
Signed ... please un**** the scanner
______________________________
Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal |
Vlad Cetes
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:24:00 -
[494]
Please unfix it, it didnt need to be done.
I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. |
stevoshadow
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:24:00 -
[495]
/ yep fix da scanner
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Therik
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:25:00 -
[496]
/signed
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:26:00 -
[497]
/signed
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Muloch
Caldari
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:27:00 -
[498]
SIGNED I DONT LIKE IT!!
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MeatyBites
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:41:00 -
[499]
+1
/signed |
Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2009.08.23 01:48:00 -
[500]
signed
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Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
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Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Rough Necks
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Posted - 2009.08.23 02:08:00 -
[501]
Supported
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Antgunner
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Posted - 2009.08.23 02:35:00 -
[502]
Scanning is FAIL, plz undo
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Kiatoo Storm
Pilots Of Honour
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Posted - 2009.08.23 02:36:00 -
[503]
Signed
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Marqui De'Xentura
Shadow Company
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:13:00 -
[504]
Who the hell had this bright idea??? Must be some dam farmer that has got popped too many times. I have seen so many changes in this game, some for the better some for the worse. This is definitely one that is for the worse. Someone at CCP needs to WAKE the Fu0k Up!!!
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4738/marquisigjw1.jpg |
Ronin Reborn
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.08.23 03:18:00 -
[505]
We've got lowsec lag in large fights, particularly when the server has to keep track of multiple GCCs. (this is p bad)
We've got FW lag where info being passed on about which militia pilots are in clogs up the system. (supposedly fixed)
We've got highsec lag where mission runners and market hubs are based due to large local population. (CCP use stronger nodes, ie Jita, Dodixie ect)
We've got nullsec lag where stront timers intice 1200 people into a system that won't work at all unless the node is reinforced.
So how does nerfing the scanner help to resolve ANY of these issues? People aren't spamming 'scan' when they're fully engaged in a large fight, they're spamming scan to GET that large fight. And in all likelyhood it's 1 person, the scout, the paranoid ratter, the solo pvper ect whos punching the button. Not every damn person in local.
I'm sorry but I can't see how this would drastically increase server performance. It appears to be a blatant nerf to those looking for targets.
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Uriel Kharan
RobCorp
Ventures
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Posted - 2009.08.23 04:00:00 -
[506]
/signed
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Mystic Amarr
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
Emergence.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 06:11:00 -
[507]
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Karn Mithralia
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.23 06:38:00 -
[508]
Adding my scanner hungry weight to the thread.
Fix please.
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.23 07:41:00 -
[509]
Yes, let's lower the skillcap in EVE even more.
Nobody can stand out!
Great plan, CCP.
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Ricki Lake
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:07:00 -
[510]
Edited by: Ricki Lake on 23/08/2009 09:07:10
I love how CCP has never played this game.
So dumb it hurts...
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Ricki Lake
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:12:00 -
[511]
I really want to know the names of the people that approved this, they are horrible and should be singled out for ridicule.
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Tyler
Annihilate.
Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:28:00 -
[512]
Signed, CCCP this is ****ing ridiculous.
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Arn Novelus
Caldari
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.23 09:55:00 -
[513]
When are we going to get a dev Response to this, its 18 pages long now...and its the most stupid change that Eve has had since they tried that cloak mwd nerf...get it changed back to how it was and stop blaming stupid stuff causing lag, you wanna fix it, stop spammers in jita, i bet that would free up a lot more than a guy hitting scan for a few seconds
Also...People from all walks of eve think this is stupid, the +10's, -10's, carebears, pirates, miners, missioners, its a move that annoyings the entire playerbase....
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lockinvar
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:00:00 -
[514]
Edited by: lockinvar on 23/08/2009 09:59:45
signed.
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The Cuckoo
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:22:00 -
[515]
Signed. Scan delay is utterly ridiculous.
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Maxiumus Monsoon
Black Stone Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:24:00 -
[516]
i use d-scan lots. this change makes me sad. see: :(:(:(:(
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Maisonian
Amarr
The Green Machine
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:34:00 -
[517]
Signed, this nerf makes anything that flies at 13.5au/s completely useless as a scanning ship...that takes the covops frigate and the tackle inty out of the picture. Weren't these meant FOR scanning (among other things ofc)
Signed.
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:38:00 -
[518]
403 supports in 3 days. About time this issue gets some attention ...
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Splash Whale
Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:47:00 -
[519]
It's so much harder to scan down people in time now. I'm all OK with a delay being there, but 2 seconds is just too much.
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50K khouri
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.23 10:57:00 -
[520]
+1
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Kolldos
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:03:00 -
[521]
signed, bad idea ccp
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Kadaver Bomber
Republic-Commando
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:27:00 -
[522]
Edited by: Kadaver Bomber on 23/08/2009 11:27:41
+1
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Elda Lumina
Projekt Erzengel
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:28:00 -
[523]
signed.
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Schmell
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:29:00 -
[524]
Signed. It`s just a torture
Also fix large autocannons and tempest plz
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Geenamarie
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:37:00 -
[525]
agree for changing it ..
how about no delay an 10 sec reuse after 3 uses ?
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nickiy
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Posted - 2009.08.23 11:52:00 -
[526]
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HyperZerg
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Posted - 2009.08.23 12:39:00 -
[527]
Maybe the exploit was, that you can locate player in belts or stuff ...#
2sec is really a joke
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Mary Krissmas
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Posted - 2009.08.23 12:48:00 -
[528]
same with me... undo, please :)
Greets,
Mary
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Uin'A
Kampfgeschwader
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 13:58:00 -
[529]
/signed.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 15:41:00 -
[530]
Please lets get something done about this NOW.
This issue is just another kick in the stomach for people who have loved this game for years.
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.23 15:46:00 -
[531]
pirate tears are just epic now a days.. I love when ccp makes a change and pirates are crying... lol. Just adapt guys.. its really simple. Theres more than the D-scan you know...I think I'm just talking a bit too much here lol
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Vivien Meally
Northern Enterprises Inc.
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:03:00 -
[532]
Signed.
2sec delay is a bad idea
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:04:00 -
[533]
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 23/08/2009 16:04:28
Originally by: Nidhiesk
pirate tears are just epic now a days..
I am not a pirate and never have been. I also know for a fact the OP is not a pirate. Please check your records, I'm sure you meticulously keep track of all the pirates.
Originally by: Nidhiesk
Theres more than the D-scan you know...
Yes there are, there are guns. But you need the directional scanner in order to find people to use them. If you seriously think using probes are a viable mechanic to find someone in a belt then you clearly have never tried.
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Aditia Holdem
Doom Guard
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:04:00 -
[534]
SIGNED
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:06:00 -
[535]
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 23/08/2009 16:06:40
Just reminding people that simply stating you agree will not get counted. You need to tick "Support this topic:[ ]Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on"
You can also tick this in the edit post menu for all those who forgot.
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Rompax
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:09:00 -
[536]
signed
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padraig animal
Vanguard Frontiers
Slightly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:09:00 -
[537]
Agreed it's not handy .
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tvisagem
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:09:00 -
[538]
Signed.
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Murkk
Burning Technologies
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:09:00 -
[539]
Edited by: Murkk on 23/08/2009 16:09:41
Signed, scanners must be quick useable
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Guygeboe
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:10:00 -
[540]
/signed and pressed: 'Check here if you want to give your support to the idea/discussion going on' :)
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Kaotixs
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:10:00 -
[541]
signed. what possible reson could you have for this that makes since CCP. quit screwwing with stuff thats not broke
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Tal Notts
Divine Power.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:11:00 -
[542]
yet another move to help the carebears. most of the time you only have about 2 seconds to scan down a target before he/she warps out anyway
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Seh Cunderri
Mythos Corp
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:11:00 -
[543]
signed
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:12:00 -
[544]
Click 'Edt' then click 'Support this thread'
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angrybanana
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:13:00 -
[545]
aweful idea
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Dai Sabin
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:14:00 -
[546]
bad change reverse it SOON
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Lynn de'Marco
Divine Power.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:14:00 -
[547]
signed
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Cyberjack Dogstone
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:15:00 -
[548]
signed
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gorm secandson
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:16:00 -
[549]
.
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Jessica Carnius
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:20:00 -
[550]
this really hurts every one, both carebears and pvpers
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Ms Celeste
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:29:00 -
[551]
I agree.
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Van Krakien
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:29:00 -
[552]
yep take away the 2 second delay /signed
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Dian'h Might
Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:50:00 -
[553]
2 seconds is ridiculous. As someone who frequently uses the dscanner to get a general location on mission runners before dropping probes, I'll often find someone on 60 degree, then set to 30 degrees and scan above/below/left/right of the initial 60 degree scan. For me that comes out to 5 (legit) scans within 2 seconds. Now I need to spend 12 seconds instead of 2 each time I narrow my scan range (180->90 90->60 60->30 30->15 plus finding distance). This really adds up when trying to find ships not at a warpable object. And even though the time isn't all that much in the grand scheme of things, it makes scanning feel very tedious. It's just bad gameplay design. There are much better solutions than a flat 2 second delay in between scans. Maybe something like no more than 5 scans in 10 seconds, or even reducing the delay to .5
TL;DR version:
There are plenty of legit (non spamming) reasons to use the scanner more frequently than once per 2 seconds. Change it back or, if it's really necessary to limit scanning to reduce server load, any of the many other suggestions of other ways to implement the scan delay are better than the current form.
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Bayer22
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:53:00 -
[554]
Edited by: Bayer22 on 23/08/2009 16:55:26
signed!
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Vanagib
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:55:00 -
[555]
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Tupolev
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Posted - 2009.08.23 16:57:00 -
[556]
signed
i support the removal of the very "camp" 2 second delay.
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toxicvega
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:05:00 -
[557]
Its clear that both the carebears AND the PVP'rs think this change is the worst thing since boot.ini.
How about you reduce EVE lag by reducing local spam in Jita or any other system that has 500 something people in them.
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Diaxess
Alliance among Wolves
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:13:00 -
[558]
+1 for this is ******ed, make it 0.1 or the way it was.
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Caster Rom
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:37:00 -
[559]
2 seconds... It's not nice, but I can survive. I will still play Eve.
What does annoy me, is the goddamn log message. Its a spam reversal... Instead of me spamming the server with scans, they are spamming me with logs. It makes it difficult to notice the newly refreshed scan results too, and i have to work harder and pay attention. I dont like working harder :(.
If CCP insist on having a delay time, perhaps make the scan button greyed out and UNclickable until the delay timer is complete instead of having some annoying message lashing at my face.
<3
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Other Side
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 17:57:00 -
[560]
Edited by: Other Side on 23/08/2009 17:57:24
Signed!
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Ithaki
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:11:00 -
[561]
There must be a better way of doing this...
Ohnooos, the horror....... |
Tromin
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:24:00 -
[562]
/signed
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Ryuzaki Lawliet
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:32:00 -
[563]
/signed
Originally by: Vabjekf
Once you have 12 decillion skill points you can equip smaller ships in your slots and shoot rifters at people
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Alex SOKOLOFF
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:34:00 -
[564]
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Facepalm
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 18:45:00 -
[565]
Edited by: Facepalm on 23/08/2009 18:49:21
Word is some alliance was using it to lag out an enemy fleet loading grid. One group using an exploitive practice and we all get the shaft.
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Camulos Redne
Amarr
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:06:00 -
[566]
/signed
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WarbzUK
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:12:00 -
[567]
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Vultureian
Demon Theory
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:13:00 -
[568]
signed
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Frontenac
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:19:00 -
[569]
please undo the change /signed
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Praxidikai
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:21:00 -
[570]
ya, reverse this change please... /signed
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zoltar pdp
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:26:00 -
[571]
You keep making it more difficult to solo in this game after every patch. Good job. Maybe hire some people that actually do PvP to review ******ed changes like this one?
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Rico Naginata
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:27:00 -
[572]
/signed
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Ahkin
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:28:00 -
[573]
Yea... Signed...
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Tony Ridalli
Demon Theory
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 19:45:00 -
[574]
Signed
This nerf is crippling.
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Ap0ll0n
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:15:00 -
[575]
Signed.. Stupid change and totally uncalled for.
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Anteros
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:17:00 -
[576]
Signed.. It is horrible..
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Vince Grant
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:20:00 -
[577]
Signed.
Why CeeCeePee, why?
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Cynobitj3
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:22:00 -
[578]
Signed...... Wtf?
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Ting Tong
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:26:00 -
[579]
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St0ne
Mercurialis Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 20:58:00 -
[580]
Anything between 0.1-0.5 is fine with me. |
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Firvain
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:01:00 -
[581]
/signed
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Mistress Frome
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:38:00 -
[582]
Yeah this makes narrowing down scans time consuming as **** now.
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Viturri
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:45:00 -
[583]
/signed
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stu007
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Posted - 2009.08.23 21:55:00 -
[584]
I agree, 2 seconds is crazy. Signed
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Ketora Kitana
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:29:00 -
[585]
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Nutmegpainter
Caldari
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 22:34:00 -
[586]
/Signed
lets get it back to normal
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DennyUK
Dark-Evolution
The Drift.
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Posted - 2009.08.23 23:47:00 -
[587]
Edited by: DennyUK on 23/08/2009 23:48:45
/singed
Terrible Change to the game, put it back.. |
RocketProf
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 00:54:00 -
[588]
/signed
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Da BlackWidow
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:18:00 -
[589]
/signed
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Butyok
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:20:00 -
[590]
/signed
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Xarrg
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:21:00 -
[591]
Edited by: Xarrg on 24/08/2009 01:22:11
/signed
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 01:45:00 -
[592]
I think the 2 second delay itself is manageable, but the expression of the delay in the UI is pretty awful. The message that appears when you click too soon lasts longer than 2 seconds, so it's very difficult to know whether or not your next click has produced an updated scan if you're not moving.
Not supporting the original complaint, but I would support a change in the UI that simply greyed out the Scan button for 2 seconds after clicking it, as an alternative to the current message.
/Ben
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LeviUK
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.24 02:09:00 -
[593]
Got my thumb, irritating as hell trying to solo with this change.
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Sturack
Minmatar
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 03:39:00 -
[594]
Please change it back
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Gilad Ayn
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.24 04:20:00 -
[595]
WAY too long of a delay. And the message is annoying as anything.
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Veloni
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Posted - 2009.08.24 04:31:00 -
[596]
/signed
The reasons have been posted before by other people, so I won't go into those again.
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Meno Theaetetus
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 04:47:00 -
[597]
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Nareg Maxence
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Posted - 2009.08.24 06:50:00 -
[598]
Directional scanner needs a complete rewamp. Meanwhile, this delay is insane.
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Cyrrus Ex
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 07:36:00 -
[599]
Signed.
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Lee Dalton
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.24 07:40:00 -
[600]
tttttttttttttttttttttttttt
***
You're only as good as your last fight. |
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Roastedpot
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.08.24 07:41:00 -
[601]
ccp your ******ed.. just sayin.. sexually..
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Hallan Turrek
Obsidian Operations
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Posted - 2009.08.24 07:50:00 -
[602]
I understand there is a problem, but lower the timer or put a timer on 360 degree scans only to reduce lag, 2 seconds is too long for every scan.
________________________________________
A merry life and a short one shall be my motto.
Bartholomew Roberts
Check out my blog. |
Miyamoto Uroki
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.08.24 08:26:00 -
[603]
CCP, you gotta find another solution for a good replacement of current scanner. 2 seconds wait timer isnt the way to go...
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Rhak Amharr
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.24 08:41:00 -
[604]
Yeah
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C7P9
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.24 08:42:00 -
[605]
Haey
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Max Tux
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Posted - 2009.08.24 10:24:00 -
[606]
Originally by: Hallan Turrek
I understand there is a problem, but lower the timer or put a timer on 360 degree scans only to reduce lag, 2 seconds is too long for every scan.
now there is an idea....
maybe reduce the directional timer to 0.5 seconds, but keep 360 at 2 seconds :D
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Misery Signals
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Posted - 2009.08.24 10:34:00 -
[607]
Terrible idea CCP.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
Banzai Boyz
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Posted - 2009.08.24 11:17:00 -
[608]
Edited by: Fon Revedhort on 24/08/2009 11:16:57
Yeah, new scanner is an absolute crap.
Looks like there are less and less PvP-oriented devs in EVE :( |
Senya RUS
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:00:00 -
[609]
Signed
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Tako Red
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:02:00 -
[610]
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BugsonTrade PL
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:03:00 -
[611]
support
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Althathwe
Minmatar
NeoCorteX Industry
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:03:00 -
[612]
/signed.
Waaa-aaa-aaaa-aa-aarp. |
Evgeny Onegin
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:17:00 -
[613]
+1
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Filthy Dog
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:43:00 -
[614]
I, too, am gay.
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LlamaOfDoom
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 12:53:00 -
[615]
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:32:00 -
[616]
Congrats for nerfing non-consensual pvp again
Do you ever think when you make changes like this?
If you're gonna do it, it should be less that half a second delay and the message shouldn't reset the bloody timer. Or how's about you just don't do it, at all.
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Abernie
Intolerable Tyranny
Unity Thru Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:33:00 -
[617]
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fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:37:00 -
[618]
Yep. 100% support.
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Lindvere
Big Shadows
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:37:00 -
[619]
Signed!
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Empire Vendor
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Posted - 2009.08.24 13:54:00 -
[620]
Signed
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Breaka
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:18:00 -
[621]
Edited by: Breaka on 24/08/2009 15:19:06
Signed.
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Xephys
Dark Twilight Solutions
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:48:00 -
[622]
Signed, me and most of my corp are really ****ed off by this.
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Decayes
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.08.24 15:54:00 -
[623]
Originally by: Mr Bright
Edited by: Mr Bright on 21/08/2009 00:38:03
In the recent patch CCP decided to put a 2 second delay on scanning, you can still click the button repeteadly, but it will now only update 2 seconds instead of the normal "every time you click".
No, seriously, a delay on scantiming? How the hell ya gonna check a 50 au systems different celestials in a inty, in the 2 second scantimer delay you will have passed over 30 au... YES there is now a scan timer delay - Thats messed up :/
I could understand making it a 0.10 second delay or even 0.3, but 2 seconds is rediculous for interceptors and the like.
Edit: Remember to click "Support this thread"
The answer to that is simple, fly a real f***ing ship, interceptor.. pft
Good job on the 2 second delay |
KaupB
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:07:00 -
[624]
Fixit pwetty plz
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Spyker NL
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:16:00 -
[625]
/signed
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Sei Fene
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:20:00 -
[626]
Agreed, totally useless nerf that servers little/no purpose apart from annoying the hell out of PvPers.
But, oh wait, who cares about them anymore?
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Antoine Lefevre
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:30:00 -
[627]
This has to end.
I might understand a 0.1sec delay.
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Chirinako
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:41:00 -
[628]
This is one of the most annoying and slightly pointless updates you've ever made. I can understand your need to implement changes to improve server performance but I hardly think nerfing solo PVP even more, is the only way to do it.
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Monianan
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:42:00 -
[629]
Horrible nerf is horrible.
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Kin Dolan
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:52:00 -
[630]
I agree to this completely the scan nerf needs to go :P.
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Johann Jeneau
Cricas Portuguese Korp
SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2009.08.24 16:54:00 -
[631]
another one
I like my steaks bloody as hell |
Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:03:00 -
[632]
Please increase timer to 2 mins
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brutorans
Gladiators of Rage
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 17:50:00 -
[633]
/signed. repeal this *******s change
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Azasello
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:05:00 -
[634]
Change it back to 0 delay. No compromises. |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:17:00 -
[635]
Originally by: Hoo Is
Please increase timer to 2 mins
Remove it completely, make a new type of scan probe
Pick Three:
Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
Gunpey
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Posted - 2009.08.24 18:50:00 -
[636]
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Uronksur Suth
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:32:00 -
[637]
CCP probably won't remove it. How about a topic asking CCP to make scan probes more usable?
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:54:00 -
[638]
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:56:00 -
[639]
So uhm, this thread isn't slowing down on postcount increases. Is CCP going to ignore us completely? Cause its getting a bit silly.
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Elias Modron
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.24 19:57:00 -
[640]
If I ain't broke don't fix it.
And it wasn't broken so what was the point?
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Krysss
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:00:00 -
[641]
Edited by: Krysss on 24/08/2009 20:00:44
Totalt disagree with this 2sec delay. This is breaking a big part of the gameplay that is scan to find people to kill and scan hostiles to not be killed. At least follow the scan resolution of the ships -> no delay for small ships/interceptors and 2 secondd for biggest ships. Between it's proportional.
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Dragon Ramirez
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:05:00 -
[642]
What a stupid idea!
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:12:00 -
[643]
Yes, do away with the delay please!
--
Originally by: Professor Slocombe
I will only buy tickets if the prize is your stuff and you leave Eve. Forever. You irritating self obsessed cretin.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:50:00 -
[644]
ADAPT OR GB2WOW
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SuXaR
Minmatar
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:51:00 -
[645]
I agree , this new scanner sucks the big one !.
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moranno
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Posted - 2009.08.24 20:54:00 -
[646]
CCP aka Chinese Communist Party is made of carebearing GM`s shooting lasers at roids all day thinking only at how to improve missions and mining and how to nerf ANYTHING and EVERYTHING having to do with PVP.
This is nothing but another attempt to make life easier for those macros, miners or ratters, so, HELL YEAH i`m signing it!
SIGNED!
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arbiter reformed
Annihilate.
Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:01:00 -
[647]
y
Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to Eve Online. All content must be in good taste.Applebabe |
Wynstone
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:16:00 -
[648]
2 seconds makes gathering fleet intel impossilbe.
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gibberface
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:26:00 -
[649]
Edited by: gibberface on 24/08/2009 21:25:59
Edited by: gibberface on 24/08/2009 21:25:43
Really really bad idea
Please remove
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mulletor
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:32:00 -
[650]
signed
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TheLibrarian
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:46:00 -
[651]
Scanning on the go is so awful!
CHANGE THIS BACK!
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Golden Helmet
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.08.24 21:50:00 -
[652]
Signed. Absolutely stupid change, fix it CCP.
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Uronksur Suth
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:10:00 -
[653]
Originally by: moranno
CCP aka Chinese Communist Party is made of carebearing GM`s shooting lasers at roids all day thinking only at how to improve missions and mining and how to nerf ANYTHING and EVERYTHING having to do with PVP.
This is nothing but another attempt to make life easier for those macros, miners or ratters, so, HELL YEAH i`m signing it!
SIGNED!
Your an idiot for making such an angry post then not even checking the "Support this topic" box. 
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Manu Hermanus
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:26:00 -
[654]
there already was a delay, there is a little timer thing that looks like the session change timer in the scanning window, but sadly that doesn't count out the 2 seconds now.
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Ricki Lake
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:29:00 -
[655]
I laughed a little, the joke is once again on us.
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AlexAllgood
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:31:00 -
[656]
Crap of the 1st rate.
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Skraeling Shortbus
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.08.24 22:56:00 -
[657]
Irritating change.
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Meldgaard
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.24 23:14:00 -
[658]
This make it take way to long to find a ship at a celestial when you enter a system, just getting it down to 90¦ scan can take 6 sec if you are unlucky, its was hard enough to find targets before this nerf
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Manfred Sideous
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.25 00:41:00 -
[659]
/Signed
______________________________
Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal |
rofflesausage
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:19:00 -
[660]
Originally by: Uronksur Suth
Your an idiot
*You're
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Jakus Cemendur
Caldari
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:27:00 -
[661]
Surely by now CCP have noticed the massive amounts of negative feedback this idea has got...it wasnt on the test server properly and it sucks on the live server..just get rid of it and we'll forget it ever happened... |
Aniel Zaar
Light of Orion
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Posted - 2009.08.25 01:58:00 -
[662]
Remove the delay. Please.
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By the way, I am an Ishtar and T2 sentries fan. Fight to make the sentry damage rig work for all drones. |
James Hawk
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 02:36:00 -
[663]
Signed. |
Cyberdine Katana
ReD or DeaD
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Posted - 2009.08.25 02:36:00 -
[664]
Remove the delay please, or at the very least lower the time in between scans to something like .2 seconds. Intie in warp = not very good scanner anymore :(
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Eliot Lagrange
Rayn Enterprises
Rayn of Destruction
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Posted - 2009.08.25 02:40:00 -
[665]
This needs to be put back.
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Synseer
Not Me Shoot It
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Posted - 2009.08.25 06:30:00 -
[666]
please remove this badly thought out scanning delay. and make it so the dev who came up with this idea, is only allowed to use his eyes once every 2 seconds.
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GRiMsReAPeR
Amarr
inFluX.
Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.08.25 06:58:00 -
[667]
signed
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GRiMsReAPeR
inFluX.
Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.08.25 06:59:00 -
[668]
signed
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GRiMsReAPeR
Amarr
inFluX.
Maru Ka'ge
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:00:00 -
[669]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
How do you check 50 AU in an inty? Well, they have these things called "probe launchers"...
No, the anti-lag feature should stay. Expand the range on directional to solve some of these problems, maybe, but don't bring back laggy directional spam.
wow.. your an idiot
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Rhadamantina
the united
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Posted - 2009.08.25 07:37:00 -
[670]
Yea.
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Sheratos
Beach Boys
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:26:00 -
[671]
signed
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Przodowniczka
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:27:00 -
[672]
Signed
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Zderzacz
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Posted - 2009.08.25 10:53:00 -
[673]
/signed
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:11:00 -
[674]
remove the delay, and while at it - remove the ship boarding/unboarding delay aswell.
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:27:00 -
[675]
Originally by: Arcturus Io
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 23/08/2009 16:04:28
Originally by: Nidhiesk
pirate tears are just epic now a days..
I am not a pirate and never have been. I also know for a fact the OP is not a pirate. Please check your records, I'm sure you meticulously keep track of all the pirates.
I never said you were, But I sure know they are pirates in here crying...and just to know that brings joy to me mwuihahahah
Originally by: Nidhiesk
Theres more than the D-scan you know...
Yes there are, there are guns. But you need the directional scanner in order to find people to use them. If you seriously think using probes are a viable mechanic to find someone in a belt then you clearly have never tried.
sure, theres the probe but if your there to hunt in AB, just put a BM near a load of AB nearby, that will allow you to remove you off his scanner if he uses it directly on the a gate .
If he doesn't flee you will probably be able to find him after a certain time. Remember that both you and him are penalyzed by this so if he just scanned the gate or the system near him he wont be able to do so for the next 2 secs.
tl/dr version: if your hunting or roaming in low sec or a somewhat populated system, no change imo (I said imo remember). but if your trying to find someone really quickly ..your busted lol.
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Resdayn
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:34:00 -
[676]
Never thought scanning could be so frustrating
Signed
Garmonation 7 - A pure pvp movie |
TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:42:00 -
[677]
Delays to scanning hurts small gang pvp and makes skirmishers/scouts slower to find targets (who will begin to bug out as soon as local changes).
Nerf people sitting at a safespot mashing the scan button if you want, but people in warp or changing scan angle to check celestials need to be able to get a new scan result faster...
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Lyvv
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:49:00 -
[678]
/signed
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Drojdier
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Posted - 2009.08.25 12:59:00 -
[679]
Idiotic change
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DreamSphere
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:07:00 -
[680]
Signed
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Dratic
Honour Bound
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:11:00 -
[681]
Definately revert this!
Yet another ill conceived change that they think we should live with.
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Morgorothiel
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Posted - 2009.08.25 13:47:00 -
[682]
lets go back to old scanner rules
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Etrange Phi
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:07:00 -
[683]
Signed.
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bw8
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:09:00 -
[684]
signed. please remove delay.
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Cerneus
The Dead Cell
Sanctimony of Bellum
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:14:00 -
[685]
Edited by: Cerneus on 25/08/2009 14:14:35
Signed. That new feature screws my efficiency pretty well. Please remove.
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William Dardrachen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:15:00 -
[686]
Edited by: William Dardrachen on 25/08/2009 14:15:32
Signing this.
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chongchong20
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:35:00 -
[687]
Edited by: chongchong20 on 25/08/2009 14:36:13
14:33:11 Notify The scanner is recalibrating, please wait a second
hhmm, it says wait a second.. i do this but i constantly get screwed...
Maybe it should say " wait 4 days while your target gets away " :)
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Ophichius
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:48:00 -
[688]
Edited by: Ophichius on 25/08/2009 14:48:25
Signed
Delay needs to be much lower. At a first approximation, 0.1 seconds between scans or less.
The directional scanner has always been an incredibly important defensive and offensive tool but this modification, while well-intentioned, has reduced its utility by several orders of magnitude.
-O
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Sazuka Kirr
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:49:00 -
[689]
Je suis d'accord avec ce que la premiFre personne dit.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:57:00 -
[690]
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 25/08/2009 14:57:55
Originally by: Nidhiesk
tl/dr version: if your hunting or roaming in low sec or a somewhat populated system, no change imo (I said imo remember). but if your trying to find someone really quickly ..your busted lol.
You really have never left highsec have you...
Finding people really slowly is not my idea of acceptable in any 0.0 system. The only systems you would ever be able to stay under the local radar long enough are heavily populated outpost systems (and thats only if you name happens to start with G-Q). In any 'normal' population 0.0 system you have no chance at all simply because you pop up in the big warning window that is local chat as soon as you enter.
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velocity7
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Posted - 2009.08.25 14:57:00 -
[691]
/signed
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Secluse
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:00:00 -
[692]
Reduce the delay, remove the warning message. Balance the delay between server side balance and skirmishers being able to skirmish effectively.
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GunnerySergeant Blair
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:35:00 -
[693]
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.25 15:47:00 -
[694]
Originally by: Arcturus Io
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 25/08/2009 14:57:55
Originally by: Nidhiesk
tl/dr version: if your hunting or roaming in low sec or a somewhat populated system, no change imo (I said imo remember). but if your trying to find someone really quickly ..your busted lol.
You really have never left highsec have you...
Finding people really slowly is not my idea of acceptable in any 0.0 system. The only systems you would ever be able to stay under the local radar long enough are heavily populated outpost systems (and thats only if you name happens to start with G-Q). In any 'normal' population 0.0 system you have no chance at all simply because you pop up in the big warning window that is local chat as soon as you enter.
do like lots of other poeple do, use a heavy inty or a sling shot then... and overpopulate the systems gate so he wont get away. if our alone, use the heavy inty yourself or just be lucky at the first scan MWUAHAAHAHAH. Believe me, just adapt, its possible to do that. Im sure some wise guy out there as already figured a way out of this loophole.
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Pagano
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:12:00 -
[695]
fix it please
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Ilunes Lailara
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:22:00 -
[696]
/signed
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Princess Aricia
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:46:00 -
[697]
If you want to ride my ass, at least pull my hair |
Tapin Tegellan
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 16:58:00 -
[698]
worst change since removing the cyno in effect
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:03:00 -
[699]
ADAPT OR DIE
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Roberto990
Caldari
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:09:00 -
[700]
eeee another fail CCP :D
Give me scam scanner back !!!!
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moranno
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:17:00 -
[701]
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:22:00 -
[702]
Stop whining and L2P or GB2WoW
Hooray for less server lag... maybe next patch they will increase the delay to 30 secs
Pick Three:
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.25 17:31:00 -
[703]
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Stop whining and L2P or GB2WoW
Hooray for less server lag... maybe next patch they will increase the delay to 30 secs
Good grief... stop making so much sense ffs. lmao
** I was sarcatic....just in case you wondered...but I think its obvious lol
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Cheekything
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:08:00 -
[704]
Signed
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XoPhyte
Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:10:00 -
[705]
Signed, it sucks now.
Decrease the time again or increase the max scan range. Problem solved.
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xenermorph
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:20:00 -
[706]
*agree*
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Proxay
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 18:20:00 -
[707]
Get rid of this stupid timer
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Wolf Pliskin
Fairlight Corp
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:14:00 -
[708]
/signed
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Kartani Jaartel
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:28:00 -
[709]
Catching people using the scanner requires enough time as it is. Being unable to get a clear picture of what is in system quickly is also detrimental to covert ops and interceptor scouts. A very heavy-handed change.
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Tataki Wisako
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:35:00 -
[710]
This change sucks! Undo!
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fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.08.25 19:35:00 -
[711]
Originally by: Nidhiesk
Originally by: Arcturus Io
Edited by: Arcturus Io on 25/08/2009 14:57:55
Originally by: Nidhiesk
tl/dr version: if your hunting or roaming in low sec or a somewhat populated system, no change imo (I said imo remember). but if your trying to find someone really quickly ..your busted lol.
You really have never left highsec have you...
Finding people really slowly is not my idea of acceptable in any 0.0 system. The only systems you would ever be able to stay under the local radar long enough are heavily populated outpost systems (and thats only if you name happens to start with G-Q). In any 'normal' population 0.0 system you have no chance at all simply because you pop up in the big warning window that is local chat as soon as you enter.
do like lots of other poeple do, use a heavy inty or a sling shot then... and overpopulate the systems gate so he wont get away. if our alone, use the heavy inty yourself or just be lucky at the first scan MWUAHAAHAHAH. Believe me, just adapt, its possible to do that. Im sure some wise guy out there as already figured a way out of this loophole.
Your 'adaption' is "be lucky"? Please stop talking about things you have no idea about. Ratters don't warp to gates, they warp to safes.
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:24:00 -
[712]
Were still being ignored by ccp eh? Surprise.
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GTN
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:40:00 -
[713]
/signed
CCP fails... again
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 20:43:00 -
[714]
This thread needs more highsec mission runners expressing their well valued opinions.
Here's an idea, get rid of highsec lvl 4 missions. It probably wont fix lag but at least then some people might leave Motsu and actually play the game.
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ShroomJohnny
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.25 21:32:00 -
[715]
Edited by: ShroomJohnny on 25/08/2009 21:32:55
signed wish some CCP would actually play the game to properly understand why we need these things.
In space no one hears you scream
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Ephemeron
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.08.25 21:41:00 -
[716]
Knowing CCP, it's pointless for us to try convince them. Our only hope is that CSM people take this issue seriously and actively push CCP. Only they can make a difference.
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Dalanya
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.08.25 23:32:00 -
[717]
Supporting this.
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ReioS
Stella Contego Security
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Posted - 2009.08.25 23:38:00 -
[718]
Gets my vote
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Ares Vakan
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.25 23:47:00 -
[719]
I support this.
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poonbomb
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:44:00 -
[720]
Edited by: poonbomb on 26/08/2009 00:44:46
If it was broken before and didn't cause any problems it should be easy to go back.
"server lag," bull. Just a horrible justification for a game breaking nerf.
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HiddenTaco
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Posted - 2009.08.26 00:46:00 -
[721]
Edited by: HiddenTaco on 26/08/2009 00:46:14
Lack of common sense at CCP it appears.
This needs to be fixed, now.
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:01:00 -
[722]
A CSM response would be appreciated.. if there has been one in the last 23 pages then I apologize, I looked but didn't see one.
Just a basic "Yes, we've acknowledged this issue and may discuss this with CCP"
Thanks, DB
Translation And Grammar Service
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Vengarioth Skullshanks
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:29:00 -
[723]
Signed !
Horrible change, scanresults need to be instant for efficient scanning.
Makes one wonder if the guys responsible for that play this game.
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Jackaryas
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2009.08.26 01:45:00 -
[724]
Defo this is such a pain, makes it 2x slower at scanning down ships in belts etc
also what exploit was it exactly? people who are able to click their mouse uber fast?
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whatulukinat
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Posted - 2009.08.26 03:01:00 -
[725]
I have to admit, its pretty god damn annoying
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2PROVIEF
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.26 07:03:00 -
[726]
Edited by: 2PROVIEF on 26/08/2009 07:03:05
after nanonerf it finish to kill the solo roaming in eve
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Rafael Tonka
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 09:57:00 -
[727]
Signed.
This is a terrible nerf that benefits no-one.
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Triiniity
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 10:27:00 -
[728]
2 seconds? Really? Feels like 7 seconds...
This is a completely nail bitingly frustrating, irritating, annoying, care bear hugging, counter productive, excessive, ill-thought out, untested nerf!
get rid of it please!
If you are trying to counter macro ratters and such then change it to like a 0.2 second delay as this is how long it takes to re-position your cursor for your next belt scan and is enough to catch people de-cloaking after jumping into system etc
Also this pop-up message is crap; we have no idea of knowing which scan worked and which one didn't
2 seconds, you're taking the ****, ships can align and warp quicker than that!
rubbish rubbish rubbish
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Hustra Deonia
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:06:00 -
[729]
Very annoying with 2 secs wait
pls change it to keep directional scanning useful and fun!!!
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Marx Powers
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:20:00 -
[730]
I normally dont whine about changes, but try to get the best out of it adapting.
But this change is FAIL!
2 secs waiting time is a huge nerfbat in the face and annoyance for pvp'ers who know how to use directional.
CCP should encourage gameplay for pvp, not kill it!
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Su'sar
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:29:00 -
[731]
bad, bad thing... i have no idea why this change was part of the last patch but it wasnt your best idea...change back this crap.
always changes that dont help my gameplay ;(
like this couple month ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=DE&hl=de&v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
i know its off topic, but still a cool vid bwahahha
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Ryuichi
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:51:00 -
[732]
Scan timer is terribad. Actually the timer itself isn't so bad. But the 'recalibrating' message? Suckier than Mr Sucky's Vacuum Emporium.
At the very least if the timer is going to stay, stop the scanner from automatically rescanning when you change angle / direction, cos that message is going to make me kill someone (in game).
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Triiniity
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:51:00 -
[733]
CCP failed with this change, yes.. but those of you who are posting without ticking the box "support to the idea" are failing just as bad
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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.08.26 11:58:00 -
[734]
Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/08/2009 11:57:41
Originally by: Triiniity
CCP failed with this change, yes.. but those of you who are posting without ticking the box "support to the idea" are failing just as bad
i think the whole post is supportive..To be honest im getting tired of CCP putting in these delays just make performance better..Its really lame..Either go back to the coding and resolve the issue properly and stop putting in hacks, or seriously start looking at hardware cos this need for speed has been going on for years and get worse..
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CyrusThe Virus
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:03:00 -
[735]
These guys coming up with these changes.. do they actually play on TQ ?
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Tjarish
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:18:00 -
[736]
/signed
______________________________________________
Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow
man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take
care of imself without that law is both.
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Sam Brein
Rune Inc.
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:27:00 -
[737]
Edited by: Sam Brein on 26/08/2009 12:26:58
Signed
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Blastil
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:34:00 -
[738]
What once took 10 seconds is now a half minute fiasco. Not to mention that certain tactics like narrow scan warping are useless now. I can understand SOME delay, but two seconds is nuts. yeah i spam my scanner occasionally, but I do it because I love the game, and want to find ratters before their juicy CNR's fly away to the safety of their POSes.
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Rathira
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:36:00 -
[739]
Confirming I have a second account to cancel.
--Blastil
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Altrech
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Posted - 2009.08.26 12:54:00 -
[740]
remove it, remove it, remove it, what a complete and utter fiasco this latest nerf is. Its just typical of something or someone fixing something that isnt broke, what are your reasons for this CCP, totaly *******s, change it back.
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Emerald Cortess
Caldari
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:03:00 -
[741]
/signed
Undo this horrific change! Serious nerf to solo/small-scale pvp!
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:17:00 -
[742]
It seems that clicking again inside the 2 seconds resets the counter, that's why it sometime takes even longer... Which makes the situation that much worse.
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workbench
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:21:00 -
[743]
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Romilly
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:23:00 -
[744]
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:23:00 -
[745]
This change is so absolutely ******ed.
CCP - lowering the skillcap in EVE, one patch at a time. Heavens forbid people excel at something in the game.
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Aktarus
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:25:00 -
[746]
signed
http://forums.tauceti-federation.com/showthread.php?tid=4575 |
Kock VORLON
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:27:00 -
[747]
signed
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Kock VORLON
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:28:00 -
[748]
Edited by: Kock VORLON on 26/08/2009 13:28:02
oups
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Shalya 01
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.26 13:33:00 -
[749]
signed
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Elliott Manchild
omen.
Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:20:00 -
[750]
put it back how it was :(
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Elomacaug
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:28:00 -
[751]
OMG - Horrible idea. Please fix kthxbye.
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Mira O'karr
UK1 Zero
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:47:00 -
[752]
this change is horrible
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Mr Garo
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:51:00 -
[753]
Please change this to something reasonable like 0.5 sec delay.
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fivetide humidyear
The Avalon Foundation
The Drift.
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Posted - 2009.08.26 14:53:00 -
[754]
bad change ccp, bad change.
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Hsu Li
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:17:00 -
[755]
Have you ever tried to narrow ship using directional scaner? Even 0.5 sec is probably too much for this change.
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Klausan
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:25:00 -
[756]
Its horrible, please remove it or atleast lower the time between scans.
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Red Cuckoo
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:35:00 -
[757]
Remove this ridiculous nerf, no lesser delay, no compromise. Remove it, what the hell were you thinking CCP? This has to be one of the stupidest things you've ever done.
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Allian Tarkand
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:41:00 -
[758]
agreed
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Nicke Nyfiken
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.08.26 15:43:00 -
[759]
support.
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Liberum arbitrium
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Posted - 2009.08.26 16:12:00 -
[760]
/signed. It is lT suck at the moment.
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Calypso's Wrath
Mad Bombers
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:07:00 -
[761]
Over the last 2 years non-consensual pvp keeps getting nerfs. When Eve goes back to being hardcore I will reactivate my 3 accounts. Way to cater to the Carebears û hope your subscription rates stay high.
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Trill Li
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:31:00 -
[762]
I saw this one coming. maybe .5 sec or less, but really 2 seconds? That's overkill.
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Grr'k An'Har
Violet Rovers
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:40:00 -
[763]
/signed
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Wensley
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:41:00 -
[764]
Horrible change. /signed
Read my Piracy Blog
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Sampanion
0ccam's Razor
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Posted - 2009.08.26 17:56:00 -
[765]
When is it imortant enough to scan for, but not so important it can't wait?
Maybe you did break some macros or somthing - maybe how would I know? But you broke the scanner in the process, hence supporting OP.
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Kraftmann
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:10:00 -
[766]
Scan delay is a game-breaker. Please fix. |
iam nameless
Disgruntled Pilots Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:10:00 -
[767]
change this back before eve becomes easier then warcraft
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Reiisan
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:17:00 -
[768]
I totally agree. If you MUST keep the two second delay, then:
a) good - get rid of the stupied error messsage
b) better - make the error message disappear when the scanner can be used again
c) still better - make the "scan" button disappear for 2 seconds
d) best - just give me back my scanner!!!!!!!!!!! |
ISKandia
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Posted - 2009.08.26 18:50:00 -
[769]
Yup, bad idea, worse implementation.
signed on.
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Shinwa Muax
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Posted - 2009.08.26 19:08:00 -
[770]
signed
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Sarah sindoff
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Posted - 2009.08.26 19:32:00 -
[771]
remove please
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Silas Sanyasi
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2009.08.26 19:38:00 -
[772]
/Signed
While I understand the reasoning behind adding a timer, the implementation needs to be looked at. 2 seconds is too long as well. and the annoying pop-up needs to go. I'd rather see a enable/disable on the scan button or something...
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Aunt Tom
Dark Voodoo Cult
VooDoo Technologies
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:30:00 -
[773]
/Signed
Voodoo people. Magic people. |
DaDutchDude
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.26 20:45:00 -
[774]
I understand the measure, but the 2 seconds seem too much. 1 second is pushing it but would be acceptable.
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Agony Unleashed (home of PVP University)
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Nero Prime
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:27:00 -
[775]
/signed
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Hekstatic
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:29:00 -
[776]
/Signed
0.1 Sec, if any delay at all.
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Jebei Noyan
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:30:00 -
[777]
Please revert to previous, cCP
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Nad'aa
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:32:00 -
[778]
Very bad change - breaks Inties.
I support OP
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Galazi
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:36:00 -
[779]
/signed
I presume this was the law of unintended consequences at work? Not just Inties affected - anyone in hostile space needing to see inbound or gather intel on enemy now nerfed.
Please fix this CCP - no delay best, but 0.1 or 0.2 may do if a delay is really necessary.
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Christina Bamar
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:44:00 -
[780]
/signed
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Shirukii
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.08.26 21:50:00 -
[781]
supported
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Mike C
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:10:00 -
[782]
It's horrible. Before, a good pilot (I mean good with person skills, not ingame) could locate something down to a celestial object (station, moon, planet, belt, etc) in under 20 seconds if he knows the system layout. Now, the directional scanner is all but useless. Scanning delay is bad, mmmkay?
/signed
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Originally by: Mike C
Trolls - We keep Humanity alive... and kicking...
Originally by: Mike C
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RUFiO 42
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:15:00 -
[783]
//signed//
RUFiO 42
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:21:00 -
[784]
yes this nerf is carp chage it now
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draskaar
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:28:00 -
[785]
Bah, inty needs the nerfing. I say cut the sub-warp speed down on them as well so drones can eat em. Stop whining cause its now a little harder to ruin someones day.
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Shauuri
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:28:00 -
[786]
Id rather have the .5 of lag scanner spamming creates than deal with this idiotic change.
Give me my old scanner back...
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Albert Unser
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:29:00 -
[787]
/signed
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Kaiman
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:30:00 -
[788]
/signed
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doyilooki
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Posted - 2009.08.26 22:57:00 -
[789]
What is the thinking for this new scan delay do you guys play eve or do you just brag about building eve? ThereÆs some of us that every day life in eve depends on that scanner unfortunately the majority of eve is filled with care bears that seem not to understand that the ship loss in eve is what bank rolls their fat wallets they want to get in their care bear social groups and say whatÆs bad and then petition gmÆs about what is wrong with eve. Just general info, the pilots that pvp donÆt have time to jump on the forms and petition every time someone jumps into system and scans them down oh by all means pops their ship. You would think they would be happy with out us they would have no one to buy their mods and ships plz fix the scan nerf and stop listening to care bears before you turn eve into some kind of social club for ex wow members
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Swifo
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Posted - 2009.08.27 00:51:00 -
[790]
wth is this 5h1t!!
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Wrathraker
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:11:00 -
[791]
signed
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Zarathon
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:16:00 -
[792]
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Spinward Bound
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:17:00 -
[793]
Very annoying and it detracts from the game. I'd rather see it go the other way and have an auto update button that will scan continuously (every 0.5 sec)
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Durris
Solitude Empires
Kahora Catori
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:20:00 -
[794]
posting with my main to +1 the rage. Would 1 sec have been so bad?
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Ryvvek
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Posted - 2009.08.27 01:46:00 -
[795]
/signed
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McKinlay
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.27 02:37:00 -
[796]
jesus fcking christ ccp
/signed
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.27 04:07:00 -
[797]
Please undo this change - it's another nerf to CovOps - being restricted in passively scanning makes it harder to be "Covert" - which is kinda important for a COVERT Ops specialist.
______________________
Isn't it time you learned to fight back? Agony Unleashed Home of the PvP University.
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Rocinantae
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.08.27 04:16:00 -
[798]
/signed.
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Kerzack
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Posted - 2009.08.27 04:36:00 -
[799]
- - this change was made in order to stop some 'kind' of abuse....
.... fix the damn-folks who are abusing it rather than nerfing the hell out of regular players!
Seriously is there no-one at CCP that PVP's anymore?
How about those that want to stop Macro/ISK Farmers...
::: Enter System - Begin Scanning - Nothing Found - Warp to Distant Object - Scan Lots, Scan 180 left, Scan 180 right, Scan Lots More - Get a Hit - Check Close Objects - Narrow Results - Warp Back - Macro Ratter Found - Ratter Tackled :::
!!!.... until now... now you get a free CCP get out of jail ticket ...
Happy Days!!!
"wannabuycheepiskfriend!?" will be heard more around the universe.... thanks
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soldieroffortune 258
Trinity Council
Seposita Astrum
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Posted - 2009.08.27 05:16:00 -
[800]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
How do you check 50 AU in an inty? Well, they have these things called "probe launchers"...
No, the anti-lag feature should stay. Expand the range on directional to solve some of these problems, maybe, but don't bring back laggy directional spam.
Oh, this is a PERFECT idea, if you want to use 220 of your Inty's tiny CPU capacity, ingenius, how come no-one else thought of this?
/signed for 0.1 - 0.3 second delay
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Kiko Tojima
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:19:00 -
[801]
/signed
urgs... never thought that 2 seconds could feel like an eternity
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Vora Dumem
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:29:00 -
[802]
/signed
with your name showing up in local instantly the directional scanning must be kept to be a fast paced procedure!
and that annoying popup window...
0.2 seconds should be more than enough.
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Daru Nada
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:35:00 -
[803]
/signed
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Max Hardcase
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:43:00 -
[804]
/signed
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Tristan Prime
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:47:00 -
[805]
/signed
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Kendra Prime
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:48:00 -
[806]
/signed
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Mortis Aguila
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:50:00 -
[807]
/signed
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Leykab
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Posted - 2009.08.27 06:54:00 -
[808]
I mean really why not do away with pvp all together CCP.
/Signed
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Der Fangzahn
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:10:00 -
[809]
/signed
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Leykab
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:11:00 -
[810]
If I wasn't clear I think that the new scan mechanics are poop. It seems that CCP favours the carebears by continueally making changes that help them and doing nothing to further pvp in EVE.
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floetenpoldi
N0IR.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:22:00 -
[811]
signed/
pls turn it back
i am only the scout.
The fleet is 2 jumps behind me :-) |
Rooky2001
Black-Wing
Empire of Serenity
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:26:00 -
[812]
/sign |
Butzewutze
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:26:00 -
[813]
REMOVE IT!!!
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Alyx Cjarrigan
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:34:00 -
[814]
/signed
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conKORD
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:34:00 -
[815]
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Joybar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:35:00 -
[816]
/sign
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Louis Trenker
POOPOOHEAD PATROL
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:36:00 -
[817]
Confirming NC requested this feature to keep their safespots.
+1
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Jane Salva
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:47:00 -
[818]
/signed
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g0nz028
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Posted - 2009.08.27 07:56:00 -
[819]
/signed |
Xantec
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:04:00 -
[820]
Edited by: Xantec on 27/08/2009 08:04:15
/sign
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hay jin
Gallente
Corpse Collection Point
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:10:00 -
[821]
/signed!
In der Macht der Dunkelheit, liegt eine Spur von DSmlichkeit ;-) |
Mear O'Breannen
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:18:00 -
[822]
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Ti'ara Ka'trik
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:19:00 -
[823]
/signed
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Lornnar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:56:00 -
[824]
/signed
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Idril Celebrindar
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Posted - 2009.08.27 08:56:00 -
[825]
signed
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Kyang Tia
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:03:00 -
[826]
/signed
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Herrzwerg
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:08:00 -
[827]
I never complain about any nerf or boost because I have trust in gamedevelopers and the knowledge about balancing a game.
but in this case the change is really annoying..
/signed
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Alexset Bath
D00M.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:20:00 -
[828]
Fix this please - it was fine before and it won't help with lag much as people are spamming the button more now.
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Elias Orphanou
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:21:00 -
[829]
Edited by: Elias Orphanou on 27/08/2009 09:27:07
/signed
this got to be removed!!!
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Aesircorp
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:22:00 -
[830]
Edited by: Aesircorp on 27/08/2009 09:26:54
/signed
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Arnba
Overplayed Associates Ltd.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:23:00 -
[831]
2 Seconds is too long for scanning down something from a Planet in a nearby Belt.
I totaly agree that something like 0.1 to 0.5 Seconds would be ok...
and through that time the "Scan" Button might be greyed out so you see that you can't scan again now.
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Ashnazg
Corpse Collection Point
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:27:00 -
[832]
Horrible change tbh. :(
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DarthMopp
I.D.I.O.T.
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:36:00 -
[833]
/signed Change please
"Alea iacta est"
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Jeri Meboka
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:37:00 -
[834]
signed.
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Wendy Spacetraveller
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:37:00 -
[835]
yes
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Dromina
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:40:00 -
[836]
Edited by: Dromina on 27/08/2009 09:40:00
signed
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Parthian
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:43:00 -
[837]
Confirming this is redonculous. |
Bam Bash
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:50:00 -
[838]
+1
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Rebeccha
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:57:00 -
[839]
/Signed
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Zheng Guo
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Posted - 2009.08.27 09:59:00 -
[840]
Edited by: Zheng Guo on 27/08/2009 09:59:59
sign
please change that
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Lord Timelord
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:22:00 -
[841]
/signed. Change it back please!
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Scarlett2004
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:28:00 -
[842]
/signed
pls change it back
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Rama Alcoholic
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:40:00 -
[843]
signed
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Zarat Weissman
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Posted - 2009.08.27 10:52:00 -
[844]
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Vilu Duskar
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.08.27 11:45:00 -
[845]
Lame.
Sauce.
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Deckerd
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Posted - 2009.08.27 11:58:00 -
[846]
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Iva Soreass
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2009.08.27 12:09:00 -
[847]
Why oh why change something that was never broke!!
Its incredibly bad now :(
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Tomash Kovahlsky
Polish Space Shipyard
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:10:00 -
[848]
Edited by: Tomash Kovahlsky on 27/08/2009 13:12:32
I support this request. Let the scanner SCAN and not wait...!
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Simon Hope
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:15:00 -
[849]
/signed
I want normal scanning back!
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Kemot Tlaonyc
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:16:00 -
[850]
/signed
Why don't you take this 2 sec delay back, and .....
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Dracthera
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:18:00 -
[851]
/signed
Apto Quod Ususfructus |
XxKatharsisxX
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:31:00 -
[852]
signed... it sucks
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Sir Quentin
Back to Yarrr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:36:00 -
[853]
signed! please undo!
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Toterra
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:38:00 -
[854]
The scan timer delay is fail. Very game breaking. Please fix CCP!!!!
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.27 13:43:00 -
[855]
close this..its useless. adapt or play wow
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Copter Pilot
PECKER OF YARR
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:12:00 -
[856]
Agreed,
2 seconds is way too long a delay. Since most skirmishers and scouts are in ships that warp @ 9au/s or greater, these fast warping ships cannot realistically scan for targets while in warp any longer as they will by pass by potential targets without having them on scan entirely.
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ROXGenghis
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:22:00 -
[857]
I'm now hamstrung when hunting or running. Please to let me scan faster again?
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Femaref
Armageddon Day
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:28:00 -
[858]
signed.
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HybridMiner
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.27 14:46:00 -
[859]
Signed.
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Cassius Longinus
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:02:00 -
[860]
It really does need to be fixed.
Scouting was already something of a difficult and thankless job. This change just makes it that much worse.
I'm sure something between 0.1-0.5 seconds would be sufficient to stop tight-looped macro's but still allow humans to use the scanner properly.
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Vaedian GER
Excidium.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:10:00 -
[861]
Thanks alot CCP.
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Ursakar Creed
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:34:00 -
[862]
signed
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Serj Darek
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Posted - 2009.08.27 15:56:00 -
[863]
I hate the change and instead of posting it with my fifty alts, consider this +50
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Volvoic
S.K. Astronautics
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:15:00 -
[864]
I absolutely friggin' love this change!
Or, maybe not. /signed
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TheMean Machine
Quantar Swords
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:55:00 -
[865]
signed
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Gluecksbaerchi
Quantar Swords
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Posted - 2009.08.27 16:57:00 -
[866]
I hereby support taking **** changes out of the game.
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Righteous Gun
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:14:00 -
[867]
check
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Patoa
Mercurialis Inc.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 17:49:00 -
[868]
Edited by: Patoa on 27/08/2009 17:50:18
/signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jac Straw
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:02:00 -
[869]
bring back the old scanner
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Holy Lowlander
Lone Star Joint Venture
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:26:00 -
[870]
fix it it is terrible.
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UKLynch
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:26:00 -
[871]
Edited by: UKLynch on 27/08/2009 18:33:55
/signed
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Reenom
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:27:00 -
[872]
Edited by: Reenom on 27/08/2009 18:32:41
Signed.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:31:00 -
[873]
With this kind of response its a joke that it hasn't been changed back already.
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cBOLTSON
SCUM. ACADEMY
SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:34:00 -
[874]
This scanning delay is very annoying and is making it a lot more difficult to track people using the scanner.
I do not approve!
PLEASE change it back!
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eC Cade
Gene Works
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:44:00 -
[875]
Edited by: eC Cade on 27/08/2009 18:46:25
Signed.
Make it x number of scans per minute if you have to. There are better ways of dealing with bots.
[url=http://koza.killmail.org/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=7826]
[/url] |
Optia Darkstone
Quantum Industries
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Posted - 2009.08.27 18:55:00 -
[876]
Signed. |
Kazn Antilli
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:00:00 -
[877]
Might as well just stop now, this is not going to be reverted.
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Haldolium
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:37:00 -
[878]
/me signed
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Haxa
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.27 19:37:00 -
[879]
Please return my scaner, hunting targets when trying to narrow sucks with delay.
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OOPS iJustBlasted
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:26:00 -
[880]
Originally by: Toterra
The scan timer delay is fail. Very game breaking. Please fix CCP!!!!
LOL
Yeah...
Sure..
G-G-G-GAME BRRRRRREAKER!!!!!!
Not quite.
Just because you all decide to cry in the same place, doesn't mean it matters.
CCP will just look at the accounts all these ragetoons are on and see it's only a hundred or two of the same butthurt (butt)pirates.
In fact CNN has a pic on the innernets of CCP sitting in a bar laughing at you right now
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:47:00 -
[881]
Originally by: OOPS iJustBlasted
Originally by: Toterra
The scan timer delay is fail. Very game breaking. Please fix CCP!!!!
LOL
Yeah...
Sure..
G-G-G-GAME BRRRRRREAKER!!!!!!
Not quite.
Just because you all decide to cry in the same place, doesn't mean it matters.
CCP will just look at the accounts all these ragetoons are on and see it's only a hundred or two of the same butthurt (butt)pirates.
In fact CNN has a pic on the innernets of CCP sitting in a bar laughing at you right now
I'm pretty sure that 600 characters cannot fit on 100 accounts. The math just doesn't work out.
As for the 2 second delay, it IS too much. I can see that if they have bots spamming the scanner like 10 times a second (if that's even possible), then it might create some lag. HOWEVER, this change is limiting actual player skill. All they ned to do is change it to a .5 second delay and it would be SOOO much better.
Honestly, when I see posts like yours, I wonder how stupid you can actually be. I'm so astounded by your stupidity that I actually don't know what to say in many cases. I can't argue against you because you made no point other than saying we are butt hurt **********s. I really don't know what else to say to your completely incompetent post. You must never use the scanner
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Six Strangelove
Quam Singulari
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.08.27 20:55:00 -
[882]
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Vollspaten
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:14:00 -
[883]
PLEASE change it back!
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CAM27
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:23:00 -
[884]
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Nitephly
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:36:00 -
[885]
signed
Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
Hiroshima Jita
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:44:00 -
[886]
Shorten the timer or make it walk the plank. Fix the UI.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:44:00 -
[887]
Originally by: OOPS iJustBlasted
Originally by: Toterra
The scan timer delay is fail. Very game breaking. Please fix CCP!!!!
LOL
Yeah...
Sure..
G-G-G-GAME BRRRRRREAKER!!!!!!
Not quite.
Just because you all decide to cry in the same place, doesn't mean it matters.
CCP will just look at the accounts all these ragetoons are on and see it's only a hundred or two of the same butthurt (butt)pirates.
In fact CNN has a pic on the innernets of CCP sitting in a bar laughing at you right now
Quoting someone who hasnt worked out how eve works yet. Go back to your missions.
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Dark Volt
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:45:00 -
[888]
/Signed
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Pretorax
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:45:00 -
[889]
Plusone
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Tess Tickled
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:46:00 -
[890]
/Signed
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Lady Spank
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:51:00 -
[891]
Huge FU to belt piracy :(
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
WingT
Angels Of Death EVE
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Posted - 2009.08.27 21:54:00 -
[892]
Please do away with the delay or at least make it shorter.
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TITOOO
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:01:00 -
[893]
Signed. It ruins a scouts life.
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Joseph Dreadloch
Out For Blood
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:05:00 -
[894]
about 900 replies and 700 supporters... in a matter of 7 days... fix it
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Andrest Disch
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:10:00 -
[895]
Atleast talk to us about it ffs.
Classic CCP. |
Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:34:00 -
[896]
It's ridiculous to limit it to 2 seconds. Signed.
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Raxip Elamp
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:34:00 -
[897]
Oh god the message is so annoying. Please, CCP. At least reduce it to .1 second. Or even .5 seconds, I could deal with that.
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masty
Gallente
The Executioners
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:38:00 -
[898]
Oooo for the love of whatever you hold dearly change it back
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Shae Tiann
Hellcats
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:39:00 -
[899]
Edited by: Shae Tiann on 27/08/2009 22:39:36
Signed. It's particularly bad in wormholes, where you live and die by the d-scanner.
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Sweet Little Bad Girl
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Destoya
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:43:00 -
[900]
/Signed
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Reuben Stone
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:53:00 -
[901]
I didn't think the change would be that all that bad, but it was clear pretty fast that it was baaad
/signed
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Killa Bee
Ghost in the Machine
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Posted - 2009.08.27 22:54:00 -
[902]
Signed, i hate this change
Buy your GTC here
Animated Avatar |
Astrocarm
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.27 23:13:00 -
[903]
Signed, return back to how it was.
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dimensionline
Agony Unleashed
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 00:18:00 -
[904]
signed. change the scanner back to the way it was. |
Pajama Sam
Copia-WarRages Armaments
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 00:25:00 -
[905]
|
Loren Gallen
Wrath of Fenris
Gentlemen's Club
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 01:22:00 -
[906]
signed, really bad change ccp...
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Shova'k
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 01:23:00 -
[907]
yes please remove the 2 second scanner delay
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Mishaet
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 01:41:00 -
[908]
/Signed
The consequences are far more detrimental than the original problem.
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Scadoo
The Comancheros
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 01:57:00 -
[909]
Unboobify scanner please
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Lord Dexxus
Liquid Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 02:09:00 -
[910]
signed.
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Sloppy Podfarts
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 03:08:00 -
[911]
Originally by: Xen Gin
Posting in support of keeping this feature as it is.
/signed
But even further. They should make it auto-repeat with a 10 second cycle like many other modules.
Then the scannerspammers would all be balanced and locked-down to results every 10 seconds.
And with only 1 click to turn it on or off!!
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Malena Panic
Veto.
Veto Corp
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 03:16:00 -
[912]
Edited by: Malena Panic on 28/08/2009 03:16:25
The two-second scanner delay destroys this tool's ability to narrow down targets. Please reconsider this change.
...
Stealth Bomber changes: a SERIOUS LEGAL ISSUE |
Philip Loki
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 04:06:00 -
[913]
Signed.
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Bayan Tull
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 04:10:00 -
[914]
I agree...change it back, please. |
BeatMaster
Caldari
Intergalactic Serenity
Ev0ke
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 05:59:00 -
[915]
/signed
How many pilots, from the online gamer are using the scanner at the same time? I think under 5%
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Terminus Vindictus
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 06:08:00 -
[916]
/agreed
Hello, I'm from the Government and I'm here to help. |
D'Fenixus
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 06:30:00 -
[917]
signed
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Mattk50
House Maadiah
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 07:42:00 -
[918]
yes!
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Mystic Boing
Kathryn Janeway Looks Ridiculous
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 07:58:00 -
[919]
I am extremely offended by this change.
|
Ribeye Jaksom
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 09:03:00 -
[920]
way too long of a delay. .5 might be acceptable.
|
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Kira Jung
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 09:45:00 -
[921]
Signed
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 09:52:00 -
[922]
Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 28/08/2009 09:56:30
2 seconds is just too much.
i could probably live with 1 sec. but remove the notification - change the scan button instead: like a module icon with a cycle-circle-outline-thingy
edit: and if stuff like dictor bubbles, probes etc could be selected per overview settings, we wouldn't need to use unfiltered scans - go fix your shortcomings before nerfing the entire game
-
putting the gist back into logistics |
Devron Nexus
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 10:18:00 -
[923]
/signed
|
Curse X
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 11:07:00 -
[924]
supported
|
Spinward Bound
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 11:09:00 -
[925]
It really is 'not good'
|
Curse 10
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 11:09:00 -
[926]
supported
|
Amantus
Genos Occidere
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 11:17:00 -
[927]
Yeah this is horrible.
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Marc Isabel
Neo Spartans
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 11:38:00 -
[928]
Supported. It bogs down scanning a lot. |
Techkraft
Chickens with an Attitude
Dark Solar Empire
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 13:17:00 -
[929]
 signed
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Arn Novelus
Caldari
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 14:08:00 -
[930]
31 pages...and still no response, ccp, I love your game, but for the love of god change this back, or at least post to say your changing it back
|
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Lolzugi
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 14:25:00 -
[931]
delicious pvp tears are even more delicious than carebear tears
|
Wukwuk
Minmatar
Sneaky Red Eye
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 14:37:00 -
[932]
/signed
Get your cheap GTC 30 and 90 days NOW |
Elaron
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 14:45:00 -
[933]
Originally by: Arn Novelus
31 pages...and still no response, ccp, I love your game, but for the love of god change this back, or at least post to say your changing it back
CCP don't respond to CSM issue threads...
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Katedralen
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:14:00 -
[934]
Edited by: Katedralen on 28/08/2009 15:14:28
/signed
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Sobon
Phantom Squad
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:23:00 -
[935]
/signed It's not that hard to outrun a 2 second timer tring to scan someone down.
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Does this mean we can expect down time in the near future? |
speacila pool
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 15:49:00 -
[936]
ccp FIX IT, slipping stupid nerfs into patches is about the dumbest way to do buisness.
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Prof Spock
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:37:00 -
[937]
Agreed, 2 secs is just too long.
/signed
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Rai Deo
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 16:53:00 -
[938]
/signed
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Travarica
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 17:07:00 -
[939]
Signed, undo please!
|
Leilana Phi
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 17:24:00 -
[940]
2 seconds delay is too much. |
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Wally Brombit
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 17:45:00 -
[941]
CCP: some of your ships cover 28AU in those 2 seconds in case you didn't know!
Yet another carebear boost.
supported
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mernekx
SniggWaffe
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:33:00 -
[942]
signed. it doesn't sound like it at first, but 2 seconds is a ridiculously large time span when trying to hunt someone down.
|
Mova Russeu
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:34:00 -
[943]
/signed
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John Tanashima
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:38:00 -
[944]
/signed
|
Caldari Corsair
SniggWaffe
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:38:00 -
[945]
SIGNED
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Lady Sharow
The Lazy Guns
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:47:00 -
[946]
|
UCassandra
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 18:53:00 -
[947]
Stupid idea, CCP.
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Jin Darius
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 19:53:00 -
[948]
/signed
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Lineage2CT1
Tracers Security Team
R.I.S.K
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 20:02:00 -
[949]
/signed
_________________________________________
There is only one correct way - own way. |
Gracillus
Point of No Return
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 20:23:00 -
[950]
/signed
|
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Lentor
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 20:36:00 -
[951]
Edited by: Lentor on 28/08/2009 20:37:25
/signed
|
Angus Marnoch
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 21:06:00 -
[952]
Please get rid of this CCP this NERF truly sucks...
|
Nomad Ignatius
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:13:00 -
[953]
/signed
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Stil Harkonnen
|
Posted - 2009.08.28 22:16:00 -
[954]
i propose that we all QQ once this thread gets to 1000 supports! keeping in mind I see some people who have said they supported but forgot to click the support button.
i already supported earlier
|
Caelum Mortuos
Zero G Research and Development
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:11:00 -
[955]
Sort it out
|
Dirk Mortice
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:12:00 -
[956]
This needs fixed badly, wtf is this s***
|
Market Bandit
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:12:00 -
[957]
Oh hi.
wth did you do to my scanner!?
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Hooded Hauler
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:14:00 -
[958]
Time to pay attention CCP!
Fix the scanner!
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Felicity Shears
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 01:14:00 -
[959]
Is that 750 supports I see?
and that doesn't even include the people that forgot to click support!
Sort it out k?
|
Romulus Silvia
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 02:17:00 -
[960]
this is just annoying.
|
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Achem
Borderlands corp
True Reign
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 02:17:00 -
[961]
Fix the d-scanner. I'd rather have lag than not be able to scan things out quickly.
....CCP has bbq'd my sig again....
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed by myself are my own and are not related to those of my corp and/or alliance. |
Minari Shiranui
Gulliver Corp
Prismatic Refraction
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 04:07:00 -
[962]
^^
What he said.
|
Avar Davola
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 04:53:00 -
[963]
This really has to be returned to its former state.
|
Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Evoke.
Ev0ke
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 04:53:00 -
[964]
Originally by: Daniel Borealis
A CSM response would be appreciated.. if there has been one in the last 23 pages then I apologize, I looked but didn't see one.
Just a basic "Yes, we've acknowledged this issue and may discuss this with CCP"
Thanks, DB
it's now page 33 and still no acknowledgment by the CSM
___________________
---[SAY NO TO CYNO-LOGISTICS]---
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Raven God
Clandestine Vector
The Space P0lice
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 05:37:00 -
[965]
Edited by: Raven God on 29/08/2009 05:37:23
/signed i needz my scanspam back
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Vanakov Mek'lanavar
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 05:38:00 -
[966]
Edited by: Vanakov Mek''lanavar on 29/08/2009 05:42:08
agree CCP fail.
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galphi
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 05:41:00 -
[967]
If they had coupled it with a much improved directional scan it might have been workable, but this clunky piece of crap got nerfed so it's worse than ever. Give the whole damn thing an overhaul, for 230th century tech it damn primitive 
|
Tasatia
Sileo In Pacis
The Space P0lice
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 05:46:00 -
[968]
/signed
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The AEther
Perkone
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 07:35:00 -
[969]
signed
Link to PVP University |
Candy Queen
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 09:06:00 -
[970]
Signed
|
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Indeep Doodoo
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 09:18:00 -
[971]
signed, this is just silly.
|
Balion rus
Gray Hunters
White Noise.
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 09:25:00 -
[972]
Agree |
Sp4rt4nII70
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 09:34:00 -
[973]
/signed
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splatb0y
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 10:09:00 -
[974]
/signed
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Lucius Cain
Psychotic Society
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 11:43:00 -
[975]
Edited by: Lucius Cain on 29/08/2009 11:43:17
Any fix that intentionally degrades a product ain't good...
I'm sure there are more clever ways to fix the lag created by spamming the directional scanner. Failing that, I think 0.5 seconds is the threshold if a delay is necessary.
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DeepBlueMax
Phaze-9
Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 11:47:00 -
[976]
2 sec scan timer is most unrighteous. I am deeply disturbed and may need to seek psychiatric help as a result. Will CCP please confirm that they accept liability for funding this?
*leans back in chair and strokes *****(cat)*
/signed
|
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 12:58:00 -
[977]
Originally by: Lucius Cain
Any fix that intentionally degrades a product ain't good...
I'm sure there are more clever ways to fix the lag created by spamming the directional scanner.
My thoughts exactly. CCP, you can do better.
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 13:19:00 -
[978]
Signed. Its amazing how one small change with that damn popup message is so annoying let alone game failing.
|
Diehard Si
UK1 Zero
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 13:35:00 -
[979]
Most annoying thing in game and another example of CCP attacking small roams
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Lukas Rox
Monastery of Eternal Life
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 13:44:00 -
[980]
Edited by: Lukas Rox on 29/08/2009 13:46:28
For 0.0 and low sec pvpers scanner is the most used tool... When you're warping thru in an inty you're unable to scan things you pass thru... CCP Please bring the old scanner back...
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Visit in game for nice items links http://eve.interkam.pl/eveships
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chiisai sakana
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 14:12:00 -
[981]
I guess that after this they'll change it to 5s or 10s just out of spite.
|
Delencia Lakat
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 15:14:00 -
[982]
Signed.
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Hintoni
Nex Pactum Industries
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 15:15:00 -
[983]
signed
|
Feline Ferocity
Black Rise Angels
Distant Drums
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 15:17:00 -
[984]
signed
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Jazzlyn
Aliastra
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 15:23:00 -
[985]
Signed
|
Vertical Axis
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 16:21:00 -
[986]
i understand why they put it in, but 2 seconds is about 20x too long. should be .1 or .2.
reeks of something nozh would have done, a narrow-minded fix to a specific problem while being completely ignorant of its full effects.
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Janatari
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 17:02:00 -
[987]
Signed
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Demon Tigress
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 18:40:00 -
[988]
Signed. Delay is silly and needless.
|
Tonglil
Phaze-9
Ushra'Khan
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 19:38:00 -
[989]
Signed.
* * * * *
Tony "EVE's Weekend Warrior"
Blog @ evewarrior.com
Twitter @ twitter.com/evewarrior
|
Milo Caman
Ghost Festival
|
Posted - 2009.08.29 19:43:00 -
[990]
Change Makes me want to kick puppies, please reverse.
/Signed
Out of Sinq |
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Foolish Bob
FireTech
In Tea We Trust
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 01:17:00 -
[991]
just
too
long
-----------
I am me. I am not the corp I've joined nor the alliance I fly in.
I'm also not a unique and special snowflake.
Everything I say should be taken in that context. |
Wu Jiaqiu
Azer Irregulars
Beer and Smoke Federation
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 02:03:00 -
[992]
/signed
|
Xano Mora
ZER0.
ERROR.
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 02:56:00 -
[993]
Edited by: Xano Mora on 30/08/2009 03:05:46
/signed
|
Rafus
Quantum Industries
RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 03:38:00 -
[994]
support!
|
Darus Te'rashad
The Forbidden Hunters
Dead End Society
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 04:13:00 -
[995]
Signed
|
Caldak
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 05:13:00 -
[996]
/signed
|
Escobar Noreaga
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 08:15:00 -
[997]
signed
________
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Sonar Mhorin
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 10:05:00 -
[998]
signed
|
Cerui Tarshiel
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 11:01:00 -
[999]
/signed
0.5 seconds is the maximium it should be.
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gREMFreeDm
inCorporated FORces Corp.
SOLAR WING
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 11:26:00 -
[1000]
/signed
|
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Emerald Cortess
Caldari
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 11:27:00 -
[1001]
Edited by: Emerald Cortess on 30/08/2009 11:29:05
Reply #1000
How much more till the threads mystically disappear?
... and still no CSM. Where are those useless bunch?
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Ayla Ayla
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 11:29:00 -
[1002]
Edited by: Ayla Ayla on 30/08/2009 11:29:16
1000th reply...DOH, 1001st
surely CCP must act
supported
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Hul'ka
Minmatar
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 12:29:00 -
[1003]
hope this helps...
/signed
---------
phew phew
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Ni Kunnial
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 12:43:00 -
[1004]
Get it done!
Ruins scanning with the 2 second delay.
Cut it down to half a second perhaps, stops complete spamming of the button but still is enough time for the scouts to scan belts and get on target.
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Klasper
x13
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 14:38:00 -
[1005]
signed |
Hund
Dirty Filthy Perverts
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 15:34:00 -
[1006]
/signed
-/_/-/_/-/[N]ot [U]s [S]hoot [I]t\-\_\-\_\-
x13 - U're KOS.!
Give me back my Bone! |
Pyrosoft
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 15:35:00 -
[1007]
Supporting.
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FraXy
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:05:00 -
[1008]
2 second delay is a tad too much. Decreasing down to 1 second would be fine in my book if it's needed at all.
1 second is tolerable, 2 seconds is an eternity.
And the reset timer on the message, dear lord!
One man's junk is FraXy's choice of weapon to kill you with. |
Kael Choquae
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:51:00 -
[1009]
signed |
Techila Kalitas
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:53:00 -
[1010]
signed |
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AzureStorms
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 16:59:00 -
[1011]
Revert please. Reasons are in this thread!
------------------------
Nothing is ever easy
Dance with me death, I am ready
"Death is a side effect of logging on."
-Phoenixheart- |
Sliie
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 17:12:00 -
[1012]
Needs fixing for sure.
|
HunterHH
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 17:31:00 -
[1013]
/signed
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Rahor Hara
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 18:30:00 -
[1014]
/signed
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SAI Peregrinus
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 18:33:00 -
[1015]
Two seconds is far too long. There must be a better way that will still help relieve database congestion.
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Zonneschijn
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 20:05:00 -
[1016]
/signed
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civari
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 20:32:00 -
[1017]
signed
Videos |
Ro'Dauqa
THE MYSTER0NS
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 21:03:00 -
[1018]
I agree, its ridiculous!
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erimon
Breed of Malakka
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 21:17:00 -
[1019]
Agreed and signed!
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a51 duke1406
The League of Godless Militants
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 21:29:00 -
[1020]
Signed.
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Promethian child
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 21:50:00 -
[1021]
Signed
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Fish Mittens
0utbreak
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 21:57:00 -
[1022]
/Signed... Scanner delay is terrible
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TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Novus Auctorita
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 22:10:00 -
[1023]
Why was this done?
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Phelix Jung
Erectus Matari
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 22:49:00 -
[1024]
My game is just fustrating now
/signed
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Kasea Dromekal
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 22:55:00 -
[1025]
As I posted in General Discussion: This change makes PVP scanning EXTREMELY difficult and extra obnoxious with the constant notification that interferes with a game mechanic we have all been using for years.
If significant abuse of the scanner really does affect server performance so severely that this was a necessary change then implement some sort of anti-spam function to prevent prolonged sessions of updating scan.
This is a ridiculous change that makes it even easier for the masses of Eve who only want to earn pixel money and never have to fight to escape PVP. It's hard enough to catch fleeing targets already as CCP gears this game towards new players and punishes long time members, and this is just another PVP nerf.
For those of you who say 2 seconds is not noticeable, you obviously don't know how to scan in a PVP scenario. PLEASE fix this.
Supported!!
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Lord Zengin
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:02:00 -
[1026]
/signed
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Shemhamphorash
|
Posted - 2009.08.30 23:06:00 -
[1027]
I'm with you, man!
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SHADOW0240
In Theory.
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 00:28:00 -
[1028]
ôStanley, see this? This is this. This ain't something else. This is this. From now on, you're on your own.ö |
Hal Incandenza
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 01:23:00 -
[1029]
Edited by: Hal Incandenza on 31/08/2009 01:23:45
/Signed. 2 seconds is too long.
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morph1277
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 03:29:00 -
[1030]
supported
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Liteik
Drunk GanG
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 07:45:00 -
[1031]
Edited by: Liteik on 31/08/2009 07:45:27
signed
0.1 second
or
0.1 second - 1 au
...
1 second - 7 au
...
2 second - 14 au
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Risandaar
Seraphin Technologies
KrautbreaK
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 07:53:00 -
[1032]
/signed
Risandaar
For No Apparent Reason [FNAR]
CEO |
Rocky Stein
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 09:05:00 -
[1033]
/signed too...
terrible for scouts... -.-
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Phenom
Gallente
Intergalactic Serenity
Ev0ke
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 09:36:00 -
[1034]
Edited by: Phenom on 31/08/2009 09:36:22
signed
and give us a 3 sec local delay :P
|
Nozomi nrvqsr
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.08.31 10:48:00 -
[1035]
Edited by: Nozomi nrvqsr on 31/08/2009 10:48:18
Edited by: Nozomi nrvqsr on 31/08/2009 10:48:00
Signed.
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Kajan Tormen
Blood Money Bootcamp
The Blood Money Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.31 11:04:00 -
[1036]
/supported
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Der Frog
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Posted - 2009.08.31 11:26:00 -
[1037]
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Jinn Bloodfire
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Posted - 2009.08.31 12:19:00 -
[1038]
Excellent idea, signed.
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Funkert
Volatile Nature
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.08.31 12:35:00 -
[1039]
signed :(
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Mary Makepeace
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.08.31 12:44:00 -
[1040]
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Gin G
Halls Of Valhalla
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:21:00 -
[1041]
signed
i really dont know where ccp get these stupid ideas from sometimes
Please refrain from editing a moderator's warning. Zymurgist |
Reithan
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:26:00 -
[1042]
Scanning people down before they safespotted and cloaked or moved or otherwise f'd up my whole day was already hard enough. With this crap? Well...you better have a probing alt. Maybe between BOTH of your alts scanning and some probes you'll be able to catch something.
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Jane Hush
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:26:00 -
[1043]
It¦s ******! Fix it now.
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Reithan
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.08.31 14:32:00 -
[1044]
Wait a second...I've spotted the irony. They added a 2s delay to keep people with scanner bot macros from using them to avoid being scanned down/found and killed...which also prevents everyone else from scanning down/findind and killing ANYTHING.
If anything, they've only succeeded in helping the bots.
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McEivalley
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 15:02:00 -
[1045]
Major sign - fix this ASAP CCP.
Insert clever remark where? |
Hygron Pyr
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.08.31 15:18:00 -
[1046]
Stupid change. Annoying as hell.
rewind.undo
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.08.31 15:31:00 -
[1047]
Originally by: Gin G
signed
i really dont know where ccp get these stupid ideas from sometimes
from a node, server, thing that makes you play Eve from. Not from someone.
less lag. ****ty change but if it can make server more speedy..Im ok with it. just stfu and adapt...if not, go play wow.. honestly
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Wiena Grey
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:10:00 -
[1048]
Remove 2sec. Scanner delay...its evil !!!
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Kern Walzky
Caldari
x13
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:12:00 -
[1049]
Remove Scanner Delay... its bad :( |
bolo skymaster
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:13:00 -
[1050]
/signed |
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Persephone Astrid
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.08.31 16:27:00 -
[1051]
Terrible, terrible idea. Please reduce the timer to something managable. Even 0.5 seconds would be reasonably okay. But 2 seconds just doesn't work at all.
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Mintala Arana
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Posted - 2009.08.31 17:10:00 -
[1052]
signed
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Viginti
The Bastards
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 18:17:00 -
[1053]
Signed
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Xavius IV
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 18:18:00 -
[1054]
I'll support this.
2 sec delay is a horrible break for this tool. |
Happy San
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.08.31 18:29:00 -
[1055]
As a pirate who likes to scout, I would like to see this change reverted, or at least reduced to a reasonable time. Half a second would be hugely better and would surely still be better for performance reasons than no delay at all?
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General Coochie
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 18:44:00 -
[1056]
Edited by: General Coochie on 31/08/2009 18:45:02
there is no reason to "fix" something that wasn't broken.
signed
Got Cooch?, solo PvP movie
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Freelancer'Spb
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 19:40:00 -
[1057]
/signed
I don't think that so little % of people on tranquility who use scanner in pvp can cause big problems for the entire server.
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anidaG
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.08.31 19:45:00 -
[1058]
/signed. 2 sec is too much for:
1. If you're in warp in cov ops/inty/etc and you're scanning.
2. If you're scanning fast in a system for ratters, which try to warp to ss and cloak as soon as they see you in local, and you need to scan different belts veryfast at 5/15 degrees scan.
3. When you're giving intel to the rest of the gang about enemy fleet movement. Every 0.1 sec counts when it comes to tackle.
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Kadeia
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Posted - 2009.08.31 19:47:00 -
[1059]
/signed
CCP put this 'fix' in place and then yesterday Jita failed and server had to have emergency downtime. So, not much help from this 'fix' => it's not vital => remove it please.
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1olsus
Gallente
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:01:00 -
[1060]
signed
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MadMax RuS
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:04:00 -
[1061]
Originally by: anidaG
/signed. 2 sec is too much for:
1. If you're in warp in cov ops/inty/etc and you're scanning.
2. If you're scanning fast in a system for ratters, which try to warp to ss and cloak as soon as they see you in local, and you need to scan different belts veryfast at 5/15 degrees scan.
3. When you're giving intel to the rest of the gang about enemy fleet movement. Every 0.1 sec counts when it comes to tackle.
this. signed.
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Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:39:00 -
[1062]
Edited by: Kadesh Priestess on 31/08/2009 20:38:45
Besides, 'burst' scanner spams helped to find out what has just entered the system (if gate is in range) even if it has covops cloak. Now missed rapier can have cost of your ship and pod.
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The Deceiver
KANTAI HIKAGE
White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 20:46:00 -
[1063]
Agree.
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Fallen Merl
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 20:58:00 -
[1064]
Signed for 0.1-0.2 sec delay. And mb key on keyboard for "scan"? Its will be greatly.
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Ariru
0ne Man Army
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:00:00 -
[1065]
/signed
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norfolkEG
A1ONE Inc.
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:09:00 -
[1066]
/signed
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Balabeska MSK
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:11:00 -
[1067]
Edited by: Balabeska MSK on 31/08/2009 21:11:36
/signed
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Walter Sting
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:14:00 -
[1068]
/signed
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Lantador
Souls Takers
Bright Side of Death
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:15:00 -
[1069]
Edited by: Lantador on 31/08/2009 21:16:51
/signed
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HCMan
The Deliberate Forces
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:16:00 -
[1070]
agreed, delay must be not bigger then 0.1-0.3 sec
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Dakisha
The NomNomNom
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:17:00 -
[1071]
/signed
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Gagarish
Amarr
VVS Corporition
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:17:00 -
[1072]
delay is not helping
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Hentai Angel
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:17:00 -
[1073]
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Glassback
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:17:00 -
[1074]
Edited by: Glassback on 31/08/2009 21:18:35
Signed.
Makes finding stuff MUCH harder.
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Medal Gortha
Caldari
Polish Task Forces
C0VEN
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:18:00 -
[1075]
Edited by: Medal Gortha on 31/08/2009 21:18:35
Signed
----------------
Over and Under
Above and beyond
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Davader
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:18:00 -
[1076]
Signed
2 secs is TOOOO long for real pvp. Maybe for carebears it's acceptable..
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Bilaz
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:19:00 -
[1077]
thats soo unpleasant!! - scanning someone in space fast is a hard task as it is - now its nearly imposible
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Maria Huana
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:19:00 -
[1078]
even 0.5 will be enough
/me signed
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Wainak
Warhamsters
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:22:00 -
[1079]
Edited by: Wainak on 31/08/2009 21:23:10
signed
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Lirein
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:23:00 -
[1080]
Edited by: Lirein on 31/08/2009 21:24:36
signed
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Eledh
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:26:00 -
[1081]
Signed!
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[x_x]you asked we are happy?
we are happy and protected!
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UAxCrow
Tactical Air Command
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:27:00 -
[1082]
Signed
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Warstomp
H A V O C
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:27:00 -
[1083]
signed
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Anna Annders
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:28:00 -
[1084]
/signed
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funky EG
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Posted - 2009.08.31 21:32:00 -
[1085]
signed
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Aen Sidhe
The Deliberate Forces
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:34:00 -
[1086]
sighed
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Captain Nares
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:36:00 -
[1087]
signed
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mo0
Federal Navy Academy
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:47:00 -
[1088]
+1
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Rixt
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 21:52:00 -
[1089]
signed
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OleDjuice
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:12:00 -
[1090]
Signed
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Trader Girle
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:27:00 -
[1091]
signed
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VOOOBLA
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:28:00 -
[1092]
Signed
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Edo Garr
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:32:00 -
[1093]
signed
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BAMIIuP
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:36:00 -
[1094]
signed
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Krissam
Orange Orchestra
|
Posted - 2009.08.31 22:41:00 -
[1095]
Edited by: Krissam on 31/08/2009 22:41:16
signed
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LOL I have no sig! |
ThePiratEbay
SoT
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:51:00 -
[1096]
/signed
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InEULAweTrust
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:53:00 -
[1097]
signed
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SHlThappens
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:54:00 -
[1098]
/Signed
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SquaeL
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:55:00 -
[1099]
signed.
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Quuo
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:55:00 -
[1100]
/signed
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Jag Mort
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Posted - 2009.08.31 22:59:00 -
[1101]
\Signed
At least 0,5 second
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Zumzat
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:09:00 -
[1102]
signed
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Kir Laeda
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:12:00 -
[1103]
SIGNED!
I'm no hero. Never was. I'm just an old killer...
Hired to do some wet work.
Old Snake.
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Black Punisher
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:26:00 -
[1104]
Signed
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Volucer S
Noob Fight Club
Noob Fleet
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Posted - 2009.08.31 23:47:00 -
[1105]
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Laari Neros
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Posted - 2009.09.01 00:49:00 -
[1106]
Edited by: Laari Neros on 01/09/2009 00:49:30
yes, please, this is awful
another fine example of CCP hacking **** around, without asking any questions.
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Caius Varrus
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2009.09.01 00:56:00 -
[1107]
RAGE! Supposedly this was intended to prevent bots from using the system, but it effectively eliminates the scanner from being used for any tactical situation.
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MicroNova
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 00:56:00 -
[1108]
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Kai Ho
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:05:00 -
[1109]
Signed. Scan is too slow,
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Sighanar
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:07:00 -
[1110]
Signed
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Toxinus
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:19:00 -
[1111]
signed
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Lokie00
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:27:00 -
[1112]
Signed
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Motsumoto
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:29:00 -
[1113]
/signed
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ragolitan
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Posted - 2009.09.01 01:42:00 -
[1114]
signed
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Krystal Flores
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Posted - 2009.09.01 02:15:00 -
[1115]
/signed
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Vissuddha
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.01 02:22:00 -
[1116]
/signed
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Ellatan Deruimte
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:00:00 -
[1117]
Edited by: Ellatan Deruimte on 01/09/2009 03:02:50
/signed
Scanning for belt ratters is already a tough task thanks to widespread macroing and 3rd party programs that warn you about hostiles in local channel. Now they gain another advantage, because nobody can scan through belts quickly, it's very upsetting and inconvenient.
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TradeLaboratory
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:05:00 -
[1118]
\/signed
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WindYKilleR
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:05:00 -
[1119]
/signed
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Aliska Artistka
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:15:00 -
[1120]
Signed
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Yunaka Vicc
Russian Thunder Squad
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:22:00 -
[1121]
/signed
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ElLoridaN
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:28:00 -
[1122]
Signed
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togashh
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Posted - 2009.09.01 03:48:00 -
[1123]
/signed
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Cun
Risky eXplosion
Death or Glory
|
Posted - 2009.09.01 04:00:00 -
[1124]
signed
WBR, Cun |
Ckeumep
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:19:00 -
[1125]
Signed
Россия против задержки сканера !!!
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Sarah Mitchell
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:46:00 -
[1126]
Just when you think CCP couldn't possibly do anything more stupid than the last stupid thing they did, BAM!
/signed
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6AX
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:50:00 -
[1127]
signed
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Franky Burns
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:51:00 -
[1128]
/signed
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Cruel Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:55:00 -
[1129]
Originally by: Mr Bright
Edited by: Mr Bright on 21/08/2009 00:38:03
In the recent patch CCP decided to put a 2 second delay on scanning, you can still click the button repeteadly, but it will now only update 2 seconds instead of the normal "every time you click".
No, seriously, a delay on scantiming? How the hell ya gonna check a 50 au systems different celestials in a inty, in the 2 second scantimer delay you will have passed over 30 au... YES there is now a scan timer delay - Thats messed up :/
I could understand making it a 0.10 second delay or even 0.3, but 2 seconds is rediculous for interceptors and the like.
Edit: Remember to click "Support this thread"
.signed |
Vanessa Mei
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:56:00 -
[1130]
.signed |
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John Abrucci
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:57:00 -
[1131]
.signed
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Takeshi Taro
Drunk GanG
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Posted - 2009.09.01 04:59:00 -
[1132]
/signed
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Mu HoloV
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:03:00 -
[1133]
/signed
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Zhunya
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:04:00 -
[1134]
Its insane 2 seconds must be removed - its impossible to scan anything when you fighting, scouting... look at our aircraft radars, they dont have recalibration timers, they work instantly and w/o interruption.
o/ Hail Empire!
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Lest
Caldari
Warriors tribe
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:14:00 -
[1135]
/signed
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Barbarians
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:19:00 -
[1136]
/signed
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LightSnow
Drunk GanG
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:22:00 -
[1137]
/signed
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VSlash
VVS Corporition
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:26:00 -
[1138]
/signed
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iDreamka
Caldari
Derelicts of past corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:28:00 -
[1139]
/signed
1111 |
Exclipt
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:29:00 -
[1140]
0.1
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Garlem Gastello
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:32:00 -
[1141]
Edited by: Garlem Gastello on 01/09/2009 05:33:56
Vsigned
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Tibul
Fremen Sietch
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Posted - 2009.09.01 05:33:00 -
[1142]
Signed.
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Alexandra Jameson
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Posted - 2009.09.01 06:22:00 -
[1143]
Signed. This is another CCP FAIL
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Temnaya
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Posted - 2009.09.01 06:24:00 -
[1144]
Signed. 2 second delay sucks!
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Taran T
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Posted - 2009.09.01 06:44:00 -
[1145]
/signed
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Romaneon
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:06:00 -
[1146]
/signed. Delay introduced is not acceptable neither for fast inties nor in fleet battles. Every second in every battle counts.
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reaction agent
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:09:00 -
[1147]
/signed
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Frank Ender
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:10:00 -
[1148]
Signed
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Maylin Li
Brightstar Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:29:00 -
[1149]
/signed
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Vortex Overdrive
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:29:00 -
[1150]
signed
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JoraRUS
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:34:00 -
[1151]
signed |
ArmyOfMe
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:39:00 -
[1152]
ill support this as its more annoying then i thought it would be when it was first mentioned
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Wendell Williams
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:43:00 -
[1153]
Supportin' dis thred yo
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The Designer
RUS
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:55:00 -
[1154]
Edited by: The Designer on 01/09/2009 07:55:04
Signed. Reduce to 0.1 second delay.
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Cyzlaki
Karkand Kampa
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Posted - 2009.09.01 07:58:00 -
[1155]
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Veroq
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:11:00 -
[1156]
+over9000 !!
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Eddie Org
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:22:00 -
[1157]
/signed
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RookieEG
Sun Lin Tong
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:22:00 -
[1158]
/signed
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CMEPTb X
RUS
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:35:00 -
[1159]
Edited by: CMEPTb X on 01/09/2009 08:35:40
/signed
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Dohodyaga
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:42:00 -
[1160]
/signed
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Hammonus
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 08:52:00 -
[1161]
Edited by: Hammonus on 01/09/2009 08:53:32
/signed
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Bariga001
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:03:00 -
[1162]
/signed
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Nonnus
Leprosorium
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:03:00 -
[1163]
Signed
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Ficium
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:04:00 -
[1164]
Edited by: Ficium on 01/09/2009 09:04:52
Signed
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Amelie MCMXC
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:05:00 -
[1165]
/signed
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Acdin
Russian Thunder Squad
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:05:00 -
[1166]
signed
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Mr Broune
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:07:00 -
[1167]
/signed
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Mortecai
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:12:00 -
[1168]
/signed
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Kingderboir
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:21:00 -
[1169]
Dear CCP, that's not so good idea you did.
We have testing new system of the direction scanning with my two friends. Both had recons. They have came into system and warp out from gate with cov-ops cloack device. I have managed to define a class of ship at my onboard scaner only 2 times for 20 minutes of non-stop tests.
Whether means it, what in EVE there comes a new epoch of blossoming of a piracy?
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Tommy Sepro
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:27:00 -
[1170]
/signed
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Panchenkov
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:29:00 -
[1171]
/signed
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Mark Quark
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:34:00 -
[1172]
/signed
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xTPAHCx
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:37:00 -
[1173]
/ Signed
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Int3r X
Ouran High School
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:38:00 -
[1174]
/signed
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Volodarsky
Amarr
Gray Hunters
White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:40:00 -
[1175]
/signed
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Nano Trade
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:40:00 -
[1176]
/ Signed
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Severianin
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:45:00 -
[1177]
/ Signed
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dj yoz
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:48:00 -
[1178]
/signed
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SkyByte
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:52:00 -
[1179]
/signed
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Twincly
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Posted - 2009.09.01 09:53:00 -
[1180]
/SIGNED
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Skytor
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:04:00 -
[1181]
/signed
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Skynid
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:05:00 -
[1182]
/signed
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Korobesa
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:05:00 -
[1183]
Edited by: Korobesa on 01/09/2009 10:07:38
NOT signed.
I think minimum delay may be 1 sec, not less
Edit:
And Scan autorepeat is good idea
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SkyBite
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:06:00 -
[1184]
/signed
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:06:00 -
[1185]
So uhm, CSM, CCP, threadnaught speaking, you aren't REPLYING TO YOUR MEMBERS. 40 Pages and no reply.
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Vizary
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:07:00 -
[1186]
/signed
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Tir An
Xenobytes
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:12:00 -
[1187]
/signed
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CTERBA
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:13:00 -
[1188]
/signed
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Hola Aeriae
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:22:00 -
[1189]
supporting dis
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Deletz
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:26:00 -
[1190]
/signed
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Thor Alicel
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:28:00 -
[1191]
signed
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PsyWave
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:33:00 -
[1192]
/signed
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Vasilisasan
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:45:00 -
[1193]
signed
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Z800XV
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:54:00 -
[1194]
Edited by: Z800XV on 01/09/2009 10:55:16
Edited by: Z800XV on 01/09/2009 10:54:47
two ideas to resolve this situation:
1)add a scroll to setup a scaning distance, for example:
1 2 5 10 max <- distance to scan in AU
-------||---- <- scroll
and from 1) to
2) add an unique scan time to the each distance you choose, for example:
- if scaning distance scroll is 1AU then no delay after scan.
- if scaning distance scroll is 2AU then 0.5 sec delay after scan.
- if scaning distance scroll is 5AU then 1.5 sec delay after scan.
- if scaning distance scroll is 10AU then 2.5 sec delay after scan.
- if scaning distance scroll is 14.21(max)AU then 3.5 sec delay after scan.
something like this.
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Evil Edna
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.01 10:57:00 -
[1195]
revert this dumb change pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
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Hunterzzz
Solar Dragons
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:03:00 -
[1196]
/signed |
X4m
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:08:00 -
[1197]
/signed
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Nata Asphyxia
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:10:00 -
[1198]
2 seconds is a bit too much.
maybe 0.5 seconds or so could be better. |
Sledok
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:16:00 -
[1199]
/signed
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X4me1eoH
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:17:00 -
[1200]
/signed
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Distrex
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:21:00 -
[1201]
Signed
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uDGIN
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:22:00 -
[1202]
signed
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Gandj
SoT
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:26:00 -
[1203]
/signed
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Onastiel Silverwyrm
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Posted - 2009.09.01 11:58:00 -
[1204]
/signed
Seriously CCP? Do we need another ninja nerf?
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Arujika
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:00:00 -
[1205]
/signed
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Praporschik
SoT
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:08:00 -
[1206]
/signed. Are we aren't playing real time strategy, are we?
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Natalia Kovac
Phoenix Tribe
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:13:00 -
[1207]
Supported. I've run into it recently, and I don't even scout that much, just trying to keep a bead on what was around. It is very annoying.
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Street Magick
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:14:00 -
[1208]
/Signned
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Athasu
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:20:00 -
[1209]
Edited by: Athasu on 01/09/2009 12:20:38
Definatly Signed, this is just a horrible change
/sign
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blah lion
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:26:00 -
[1210]
/signed
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Taguchi Hiroko
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:36:00 -
[1211]
it's a ******ed feature that makes pvp even more slow and unnecessarily inaccessible.
the timer resets if you get the notification, and every time I seem to click the scan just at the 1.9999sec so I never get any results in time.
whoever came up with this "feature" needs to be fired. srsly.
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Klevyi Uri
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Posted - 2009.09.01 12:39:00 -
[1212]
/signed
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flashfresh
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:15:00 -
[1213]
/signed
ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö
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Tehnoes
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:38:00 -
[1214]
Signed |
TripleDistilled Pownage
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Posted - 2009.09.01 13:48:00 -
[1215]
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FlameGlow
Legio Octae
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:05:00 -
[1216]
Threadnought, attack!
_____________
I don't care what is nerfed, as long as it's not my "undock" button. |
Kingwood
Hello Kitty Pyjama Piwates
Global Disorder
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:11:00 -
[1217]
Most stupid change ever. Revert this asap. Scanning is ridiculous, I have to do everything 2-3 times now because I can't trust my results due to the "Sensor recalibration message".
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NoiseGenerator
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:15:00 -
[1218]
/signed
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:28:00 -
[1219]
Indeed it seems another case of the dev in charge of this not playing the game.
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Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:29:00 -
[1220]
Originally by: Big Al
Indeed it seems another case of the dev in charge of this not playing the game.
Or just being really terrible at playing it.
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Milena Rage
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:31:00 -
[1221]
I would ragequit if I ever played tbh.
dumping characters
please buy |
Waagaa Ktlehr
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:45:00 -
[1222]
Mother of all ...
WORST CHANGE EVER.
Way to take another skill-factor out of this game.
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Rachel W0lf
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Posted - 2009.09.01 14:45:00 -
[1223]
Signed! |
Nicho Void
Hate Incorporated
Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:33:00 -
[1224]
Fix it.
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Rublek
UK1 Zero
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:33:00 -
[1225]
omg signed
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Ardus Cohen
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:45:00 -
[1226]
/signed
2 seconds is sooooooo loooong.
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Skardo
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Posted - 2009.09.01 15:52:00 -
[1227]
SIGNED.
0.5-1 sec is a maximum delay for comfort scanning.
But if it's totally impossible to make it less than 2 sec, please just disable scan button until scanner is ready. Getting this "...can't scan..." messages is really annoying.
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Johnny Guns
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:02:00 -
[1228]
CCP please respond to this thread. please revert this change. the delay is very enraging. do not ingore the player base on this one like you did with ghost training and the nano nerf. you have to give in on this one. throw us a bone here.
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Nemalex
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:06:00 -
[1229]
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Kibagami Jubey
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:35:00 -
[1230]
/signed
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xo3e
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:38:00 -
[1231]
signed
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Diddyo
Copia-WarRages Armaments
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:53:00 -
[1232]
signed
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A DeathDealer
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Posted - 2009.09.01 16:56:00 -
[1233]
Worst idea ever. PvP scanning is broken.
Supported
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I don't discriminate. I hate everybody equally. |
Hanster Maluki
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:07:00 -
[1234]
Supported!
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BARF CHUNK
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:18:00 -
[1235]
It's fine CCP, just do something about the notify window.
The tears in here are delicious AND nutricious!
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Alenian
Wraith Fortitude
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:22:00 -
[1236]
signed
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Shenker
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:42:00 -
[1237]
delay must die
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Knight Phaeton
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:46:00 -
[1238]
Signed. New scanner is terrible, imbalance nerfing pvp.
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Amarr'd
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:57:00 -
[1239]
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CaptainSensible
Gulliver Corp
Prismatic Refraction
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:57:00 -
[1240]
Signed
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Somal Thunder
Intergalactic Peace Organization
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Posted - 2009.09.01 17:58:00 -
[1241]
The new scanning system was unexpected and surprising as buttsex.
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NulliSecundus
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Posted - 2009.09.01 19:01:00 -
[1242]
/signed
I'm sure that every pvp player will decidedly reject this painful innovation.
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Daniel Borealis
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.01 20:49:00 -
[1243]
Edited by: Daniel Borealis on 01/09/2009 20:49:12
"Hey guys!"
"Let's add a 2 second delay to scanning with an irritating pop up window that gets in the way and repeats over and over."
CCP: "Wow, good idea. IMPLEMENT NOAW"
Players: "..."
Translation And Grammar Service
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Cattie'Brie
Tactical Air Command
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:45:00 -
[1244]
/signed
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X Skif
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:45:00 -
[1245]
signed
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Sanguis Fluibant
The Guiding Greg Social and Best Friend Club
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Posted - 2009.09.01 21:52:00 -
[1246]
Edited by: Sanguis Fluibant on 01/09/2009 21:54:20
signed
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Mephistophilis
Domination.
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.09.01 22:06:00 -
[1247]
Signed, 2 second timer sucks big time
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Marcus Quo
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2009.09.01 22:08:00 -
[1248]
Signed to the max.
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Joan Ka
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Posted - 2009.09.01 22:09:00 -
[1249]
Signed.
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Xydros
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Posted - 2009.09.01 23:47:00 -
[1250]
Makes it hard to watch my six when Ninja ganking or ratting.
Makes it hard scan down people in a belt... 2 seconds is a lifetime in Eve.
/signed
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TheMaster42
Lobster Gazelle Unicorn
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Posted - 2009.09.02 02:31:00 -
[1251]
Signed.
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Tractory
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Posted - 2009.09.02 02:46:00 -
[1252]
roll it back ffs, signed
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alex darkman
Fight Cats Corp
AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:22:00 -
[1253]
Signed.
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Heomos Ricedi
REUNI0N
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:25:00 -
[1254]
/signed
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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:25:00 -
[1255]
Go lag someone else with your scan spamming.
Scan timer = good.
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Staticizer
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:38:00 -
[1256]
Edited by: Staticizer on 02/09/2009 03:40:50
Signed.
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Nataly Logoffsky
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Posted - 2009.09.02 03:54:00 -
[1257]
signed.
at least you could make like button timer delay in client, so there were no annoying messages, and we could see when we can scan again.
the current way of scaning is awfull.
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Vassilli Leopold
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Posted - 2009.09.02 04:21:00 -
[1258]
signed.
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Danilich
KANTAI HIKAGE
White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 04:48:00 -
[1259]
signed. |
Dissociactive
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 05:25:00 -
[1260]
Signed !
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Jslice
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:07:00 -
[1261]
Epic fail ccp. Prove to us with some of your 'epic' graphs how much performance has increased with this horrible change.
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TRD2009
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:19:00 -
[1262]
/signed
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HeliosGal
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:19:00 -
[1263]
leave it as is if it reduces lag so be it
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Enosh Kerrim
Seraphin Technologies
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:38:00 -
[1264]
nah thats too much delay
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White Pussycat
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:58:00 -
[1265]
/signed
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Umi Ray
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Posted - 2009.09.02 07:59:00 -
[1266]
/signed. remove delay plz.
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Arengor
Glittering Dust
Wild Hunt.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 08:34:00 -
[1267]
Don't forget to set "Support this topic" checkbox! |
Tajidan
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2009.09.02 08:41:00 -
[1268]
besides that the scanner could really do a overhaul, it doesnt deserve to be made more horrible.
/signed
http://www.eve-gfx.com |
Miklas Laces
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 08:51:00 -
[1269]
CCP when you do things like this you only show that you dont play the game and you have no clue about ****.
Undo this crap, morons.
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CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation
Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tournament |
SilentWinter
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Posted - 2009.09.02 09:06:00 -
[1270]
signed for the greater good |
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Kaihn
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 09:08:00 -
[1271]
/Signed
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Kina Ayami
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 09:09:00 -
[1272]
signed.
No delay pls.
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trunketta
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Posted - 2009.09.02 09:43:00 -
[1273]
ok this has been summer patch for scn nerf..
in this 3 years i saw others.. speed nerf, missile nerf and now scan nerf
WTF scannerf is ridicoulos, is only to support developers in not making attention in they job , or bettere making easier..
but how about the game? from now there won't be more "scout" that scan all the system while warping only beacause they are wonderful player.. but only scout with million of skill
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Raven03
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 10:05:00 -
[1274]
Signed. Way to make it easier for the isk sellers that you say you're fighting so hard to eradicate.
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Zoena
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.02 10:41:00 -
[1275]
/signed
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Tokas III
Minmatar
Chorra's Den
OMEGA.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 10:50:00 -
[1276]
/signed
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C9000
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Posted - 2009.09.02 10:59:00 -
[1277]
Edited by: C9000 on 02/09/2009 10:59:23
would CCP be so kind to take their f*cking head out of their *sses and state their opinion about this f*cking issue. Or do you rly have enough subs now in carebear land?
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farl
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:05:00 -
[1278]
not supported. There shouldn't be an instant 'find my ship' and part of the issue were macros doing the scanning for people.
Directional scan should be for very close range scans only and should have a delay.. speed of light limit at least.
Combat probes are so good that you can zero a BS in under 10s. If he's paying attention (and most aren't) he will only be beginning to align by then, it may take him another 13-30s to warp. That's plenty of time.
Directional scan should not be a wtfpwn button. Reduce it to a 1s delay and and the range to 10AU.
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Hra Neuvosto
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:18:00 -
[1279]
/sign
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TheLordofAllandNothing
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:40:00 -
[1280]
/signed
Ganking people in null sec is hard enough as it is without CCP ****ing up the one thing that pvpers use the most.
_______________________
Fix rockets in '09 =( |
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dolmant
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:44:00 -
[1281]
oh god... i spam so hard i can never tell when its updated, PLEASE GOD (CCP) fix this!
Signed
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Laedy
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:49:00 -
[1282]
/signed
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Talarna Blackhand
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:51:00 -
[1283]
/signed
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Nkalv
Free Lapland
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:53:00 -
[1284]
iam not gona read the entire thread but i will assume all my complaints been covered alread.
i think the assembly hall and the csm is a waste of time and your probly not even listing, but this is a complaint that is worht wasting my time over.
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Max Mandrake
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:56:00 -
[1285]
Originally by: HeliosGal
leave it as is if it reduces lag so be it
Banning you would also reduce lag, you cool with that as well?
5 more supports to the big 1000 !
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Max Kassanov
Teranous Productions
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:57:00 -
[1286]
Lawl you can support with every char on your account, didn't know that.
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YourFinger YouFool
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Posted - 2009.09.02 11:58:00 -
[1287]
/signed
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Max Jameson
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:00:00 -
[1288]
1000 fukc yeah.
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Drichter
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:03:00 -
[1289]
Originally by: farl
not supported. There shouldn't be an instant 'find my ship' and part of the issue were macros doing the scanning for people.
The only point where i could instantly find your ship is, when there's only one belt in scanrange and your dumb enough to hunt there. When i find u in other belts, it's pure luck.
But yes, macros are a problem ... and will be. The 2 second delay will only help them ...
Originally by: farl
Directional scan should be for very close range scans only and should have a delay.. speed of light limit at least.
Yea, let's go all realistic in this internetspaceshipgame.
Originally by: farl
Combat probes are so good that you can zero a BS in under 10s.
Launching 4 probes takes already up to 5 seconds (take the little lag into account). Then positioning them maybe another 5 seconds. And then u can only get a warpable result with 5/5 skills or/and u need to know which planet the ratter is. Then almost another 10 seconds to warp there.
Originally by: farl
If he's paying attention (and most aren't) he will only be beginning to align by then, it may take him another 13-30s to warp. That's plenty of time.
Ravens don't have enough Lowslots to fit that many plates so it would take 30s to alingn and warp.
Originally by: farl
Directional scan should not be a wtfpwn button. Reduce it to a 1s delay and and the range to 10AU.
Yea, it's for sure a wtfpwn button. It also shoots for u and instalocks targets.
So to conclude ... have u been ganked lately?
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Fish Brain
Mourning Air
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:19:00 -
[1290]
This awesome change made me feel like I'm playing this game in slow motion.
/signed |
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Alch3mik
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:30:00 -
[1291]
/signed
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Long journey always starts from a little steps
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WildWoomen
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:31:00 -
[1292]
/signed
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Jarrel K'Toth
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:38:00 -
[1293]
Want it back!
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hired goon
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:43:00 -
[1294]
This topic makes it embarassing to say I'm part of the Eve community.
-omg-
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:52:00 -
[1295]
Over 1000 supports now, most supported topic ever?
If this doesn't make it onto the agenda it will show just how much of a sham the CSM is
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Hey You
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 12:53:00 -
[1296]
Same as usual.
At CCP HQ:
CCP1: Oh look if we change this we get 0.0000001 better performance of server.
CCP2: Oh what a awesome idea. With few more brilliant ideas like this we may fill our pockets even more and not have the need to invest in better server. Here go buy yourself a Ferrari for this brilliant idea.
CCP1: Thanks.
CCP3: But this will ruin game for already troubled PvPers since all our changes are leading to Lag, Blob, Consoles and Carebearing. Cant we rethink this?
CCP 1&2: No you idiot.
GG CCP
Ace Job.
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The WiCk3D
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 13:24:00 -
[1297]
Edited by: The WiCk3D on 02/09/2009 13:25:34
+1. This is one more nail in coffin of the small roaming gangs
CCP, please remove this stupid delay, thank you.
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Richard Winters
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 13:33:00 -
[1298]
Signed/ we want back the old scanner!!!
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Our disease, everywhere I wander
I trail the song of your despair, everywhere
don't you breathe, don't you dare?
Only life, do you care when it' |
Vol Tanis
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Posted - 2009.09.02 13:38:00 -
[1299]
/Signed
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LoveKebab
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:01:00 -
[1300]
that's an outrage ! bring back the old scanner ! rabble rabble rabble rabble
xVid4PSP MKV Encoding Tutorial |
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Baron Aaron
Caldari
Chuskarl's Family
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:06:00 -
[1301]
singed o/
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Miamoto Mysasi
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:07:00 -
[1302]
/signed
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Gothic Shadow
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:08:00 -
[1303]
/signed
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kohka
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:10:00 -
[1304]
/signed
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Gustav Trenalka
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Posted - 2009.09.02 14:52:00 -
[1305]
+1 |
Xoria Krint
Bleakers.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 15:14:00 -
[1306]
The scanner is horrible now..
We seriusly need to get this fixed ASAP.
We can't let the macros destroy the game for us.
/Signed.
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Ferazz
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Posted - 2009.09.02 16:24:00 -
[1307]
/signed!
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jarack
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 16:38:00 -
[1308]
Way to go CCP, encourage more ISK farming BOTS!!!!!!!!!!!
rabble rabble rabble
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Chris Sandstorm
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Posted - 2009.09.02 16:56:00 -
[1309]
Didnt think it would be an issue at first by simply reading about it, but once i went out solo after the patch it was awful to be honest :S
/signed
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.09.02 16:57:00 -
[1310]
Originally by: "CCP Atlas"
Posted - 2009.08.20 21:08:00 - [5] - Quote
Report
There is a new 2 second delay in using the directional scanner. This has been done for server performance reasons.
Name me one feature that they reverted back because of complaints that affects performance..
My answer.. NONE.. DEAL WITH IT . again, for the xth time, ADAPT OR GO PLAY WOW.
they will never change it back only because it makes the server less laggy.
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CAMA HEBuHHOCTb
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 17:04:00 -
[1311]
/sign
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 17:49:00 -
[1312]
Defo
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Wally Slhade
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:10:00 -
[1313]
signed
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Falaricae
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:34:00 -
[1314]
The cooldown needs to be lower and the text needs to go. When your fixes start to criple legitimate gameplay, you aren't doing it right. |
Pataras
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Posted - 2009.09.02 18:38:00 -
[1315]
signed
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Pegas
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:06:00 -
[1316]
The 2 seconds delay is the worst idea ever
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CMD NEO
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:07:00 -
[1317]
signed |
WarGod
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:16:00 -
[1318]
Here to sign!
and lol, reduce lag?
SORRY! but i have the image of a laggy fleet fight where 400 ships are warping in and out, dropping bubbles and exploding etc and some moron in CPP comes up with *yeah someone in here just started scanning that's the problem*
Also adding the ONLY people who would speak out against fixing the scanner (if anyone) are the people in empire who don't really use it.
And i guess one more thing. Servers we're *fine* before you broke the scanner and there has been no noticeable changes to the server, although if the performance of the server has improved it's probably because less ships in eve are exploding as a result of the fail scanner.
DON'T PLAY WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN!
Thank you
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Saurent
Gallente
Band of Cateteris
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:30:00 -
[1319]
signed
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Suboran
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:32:00 -
[1320]
/signed
after failing to scan a ratter purly because of having to wait 12 seconds while the scanner decided to be ready again
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KanpaJl
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.02 19:59:00 -
[1321]
/signed
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Lucas Tigh
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.09.02 20:22:00 -
[1322]
Edited by: Lucas Tigh on 02/09/2009 20:22:14
Originally by: Falaricae
The cooldown needs to be lower and the text needs to go. When your fixes start to criple legitimate gameplay, you aren't doing it right.
And while you're at it, the whole notification system needs updating. One box doesn't do much good when twenty things are happening at once.
Edit: page 45 sniper
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CCP, make me a winner.
I win. |
Olly Busse
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Posted - 2009.09.02 20:34:00 -
[1323]
2s delay sux.
make it 0.5 at least.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.09.02 20:36:00 -
[1324]
Originally by: Olly Busse
2s delay sux.
make it 10 at least.
Fixed that for you
Less scans = less server stress = less lag
What is it that everyone always says around here:
ADAPT OR DIE
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Bfoster
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 21:23:00 -
[1325]
Supported!
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My Killboard- The Python Cartel |
Foxtrot Darius
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 21:26:00 -
[1326]
/signed !
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WarGod
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.02 22:36:00 -
[1327]
Edited by: WarGod on 02/09/2009 22:38:27
Originally by: Hoo Is
Originally by: Olly Busse
2s delay sux.
make it 10 at least.
Fixed that for you
Less scans = less server stress = less lag
What is it that everyone always says around here:
ADAPT OR DIE
When trying to free up a very small % of the server at the cost of compromising gameplay (including but not restricted to the new fail scanner) it will annoy a lot of people.
And a few things to think about. 1 being the change annoyed 90% of eve (bar the ret-rded people who just wish they could live in a box and rat all day in 0.0) and we have gained something unnoticeable to the players it has affected. That something is an extra 0.0000000001% server efficiency or w/e. I THINK i can speak people for everyone (bar ret-rds like yourself) when i say I'd rather that 0.0000001% of lag for the REAL SUPER scanner back.
If you're getting killed all the time because you're a moron and can't make money go eBay.
If CCP want to make a real change to the server they should do it without compromising pvp (i don't have the solution in my hat) wheres this super computer that will 'KILL ALL LAG' I've heard about so long ago etc.
(P.S. I do not support nor am i involved in any form of isk selling.)
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Gneeznow
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.03 05:49:00 -
[1328]
sucky game mechanic
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.09.03 06:05:00 -
[1329]
Originally by: Hoo Is
Less scans = less server stress = less lag
What is it that everyone always says around here:
ADAPT OR DIE
Yes, when there are things you can do to the same effect. Take my issue for an example. You try to hunt a ratter in an empty system. The moment you jump into the system you have a few seconds to locate him before he is safe from aggression. Even then he will very likely escape, if he pays attention. It was already very hard to catch him. As a forum ***** you notice the lack of any whines about how overpowered the scanner was. I for one can't think of a single one.
Please tell me how to adapt? I can't train a skill to do it faster. I can't use a different fitting or a ship, since they are all equally bad. No implants or rigs will help me. The only thing that I could do was to try and learn to how to scan the target down faster by training my real life skills. CCP has now put a hardcap on this, that I have no way of compensating for. The competition between target and prey was between time and it favored the prey already. CCP just decided it wasn't easy enough for them and didn't allow other ways of achieving the same result, so there isn't a way to adapt to the change.
The only option is to have them change it to something more reasonable, so it doesn't affect gameplay so much, but still prevents constant spam of the scanner. This thread is full of acceptable compromises.
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Super Twinkey69
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.03 07:17:00 -
[1330]
signed sort your ****n lives out ccp be4 we **** your face
stop makn stupid changes to benefit some useless whineing bears that are too **** to warp out of a belt after hostiles come into system,how bout you like idk think about the other 90% of your player base taht actually puts the scanner to good use
useless ccp and their useless ideas are USELESS
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Polar Raven
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:27:00 -
[1331]
/ signed!
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Khaarj Nihir
Caldari
Hikage Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.03 08:43:00 -
[1332]
at least reduce it...
/signed
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Ayato kun
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
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Posted - 2009.09.03 09:58:00 -
[1333]
Edited by: Ayato kun on 03/09/2009 10:04:41
/signed, of course...
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Angelo Rosso
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Posted - 2009.09.03 10:02:00 -
[1334]
\signed
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Lameh Dba
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Posted - 2009.09.03 10:03:00 -
[1335]
If you don't like something change it; if you can't change it, change the way you think about it.á ~Mary Engelbreit
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Rabanne
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
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Posted - 2009.09.03 10:06:00 -
[1336]
/signed |
Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.09.03 10:18:00 -
[1337]
Edited by: Suitonia on 03/09/2009 10:18:34
Originally by: Hoo Is
Originally by: Olly Busse
2s delay sux.
make it 10 at least.
Fixed that for you
Less scans = less server stress = less lag
What is it that everyone always says around here:
ADAPT OR DIE
NPCs should have a 5% chance of one hit KOing a Drake.
Reduces lag because less wrecks are generated when the Drake is dead
ADAPT OR DIE.
^^ Holds about as much merit as your argument.
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Lofe sXe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.03 10:56:00 -
[1338]
Edited by: Lofe sXe on 03/09/2009 10:57:30
signed - this scan thing is totally dumb
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Drichter
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Posted - 2009.09.03 11:28:00 -
[1339]
Originally by: Hoo Is
Originally by: Olly Busse
2s delay sux.
make it 10 at least.
Fixed that for you
Less scans = less server stress = less lag
What is it that everyone always says around here:
ADAPT OR DIE
Let's take away one slot of high, medium and low on every ship.
Less modules = less server stress = less lag
Or even better ... get rid of that third dimension ... we're fighting off the overview already anyway and most systems are quiet flat already, let's get back to something like this. THAT could really help with the lag.
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Nyveg
Hyperborea Re
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:07:00 -
[1340]
Originally by: Drichter
Let's take away one slot of high, medium and low on every ship.
Less modules = less server stress = less lag
Or even better ... get rid of that third dimension ... we're fighting off the overview already anyway and most systems are quiet flat already, let's get back to something like this. THAT could really help with the lag.
See a Tempest owning 2 Ravens? I want Rorschach 2D back!
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Danthomir
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:56:00 -
[1341]
Classic, if regrettable, example of a large company being unable to keep touch with the entire scope of its' product.
Whoever made the change wasn't familiar with the roles the scanner played. Sucks, because now the game suffers for it.
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:56:00 -
[1342]
All accounts going inactive in a few days, I honestly cant think of any reason to resub. I have loved and defended this wonderful game for roughly four years, I now have trouble seeing any reason to keep playing.
From the beggining my main character has specialised in all things small, fast and cloaky. This required lots of SP and plenty of actual player skill to pull off well.
*Bang - The nano nerf hit and at first I hated it, then i adapted. I still dont like it but I suppose it makes some small sense in a game balance perspective.
This made small gang pvp mutch harder and instead you had to rely more on evading from the beggining rather than running.
*Bang - All cruiser sized ships were made to warp slower thus making them easier to catch while trying to evade.
At first I hated it, then i adapted. I still dont like it but i suppose it makes some small sense in a game balance perspective.
So if you want to fight in cruisers, the only way to do it is with logistics. If you still want to try and go solo you have to take a native cloaker.
*Bang - All native cloakers have a massive cloak delay after jumping, you cannot pulse your MWD and cloak to get back to the gate if you happen to run into anything above a tiny bubble camp. Thus negating the entire point of native cloakers as _**COVERT OPS**_ or _**RECON**_ ships.
At first I hated it, then i adapt... oh wait... they rolled that one back due to stupidity.
So all is happy in the world of the small gang pvp'er, well, youve poured sour milk over everything I like but meh. I still defend you EVE online because I love you. In the end I know you only want whats best for me... me and all the ravens and drakes in Motsu.
*BANG - After all the mechanics set into motion to make it almost impossible to roam in a small gang CCP in their infinate wizdom also make it near damn impossible to find anyone in a system in any reasonable amount of time.
NO.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
I'm tired of defending you Eve online. I'm tired because the game I have loved for all these years has turned out to be something I dont play anymore. All I ever do is log on and try to justify why you hate me and others like me so mutch.
QQ - Its been fun.
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Captain Longshlong
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:56:00 -
[1343]
why? |
Zeiris
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Posted - 2009.09.03 12:58:00 -
[1344]
Wow, sucks to be that guy. ^
Definitely a case of certain decision makers being unfamiliar with the full spread of play styles that make EVE what it is. I know most people never leave their mission-raven or drake, but what about those that do? :\ |
Commander KroMm
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:01:00 -
[1345]
I didn't want to catch people in belts anyway~ |
Zlatina
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:02:00 -
[1346]
Stupid. If your goal is to make computers ineffective, why are you punishing players? |
Ymrir
Cog Ex Machina
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:03:00 -
[1347]
Someone made a pretty bad decision. |
Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:03:00 -
[1348]
Saving up on cpu use in order to reduce lag is a honourable thing to be sure, but this was not the right way to do it.
OP supported.
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Auri Hella
Downwind Trading Guild
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:20:00 -
[1349]
This was a really stupid change, kindly revert to the old system.
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Taguchi Hiroko
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:45:00 -
[1350]
/signed
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.09.03 13:48:00 -
[1351]
Put it back to how it was.
If it's really is a server performance issue, find the CPU cycles from elsewhere.
If it's really the decloaking exploit, fix the problem.
And whoever thought a 5 second pop up for a 2 second condition was a good idea just needs a slipper upside the head. That just made a terrible cludge into an absolute joke.
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Sky Writer
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Posted - 2009.09.03 14:14:00 -
[1352]
/signed.
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Nyakk Tradetard
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Posted - 2009.09.03 14:17:00 -
[1353]
Originally by: Sky Writer
/signed.
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Beithir
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Posted - 2009.09.03 14:18:00 -
[1354]
Originally by: Nyakk Tradetard
Originally by: Sky Writer
/signed.
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.09.03 14:25:00 -
[1355]
please fix this
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Woofsie
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.03 14:51:00 -
[1356]
/signed
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This post is wholly representative of the views of both my corp and my alliance.
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.03 15:35:00 -
[1357]
This is still an issue. This has completely screwed over good scanners.
What were you thinking, CCP?
_________________________
HELLO! I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
Lemage
Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2009.09.03 16:13:00 -
[1358]
support
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FT Cold
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:24:00 -
[1359]
fcking /signed
Now, now, now. Sounds like someone's got a case of the poor me's. If you were gonna die, you would have done it by now! Maybe you just need to realize you're gonna to have to live with intense pain |
SorcNow
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.03 17:55:00 -
[1360]
Signed
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Ancient Memories
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:20:00 -
[1361]
Implement a scanner activations/time cap (say 100 a minute or so) exceeding which shuts the scanner off for a few seconds to prevent botters and cowards from taking too much of your precious cpu cycles. It allows scouts etc. excessive use when it is needed.
But not this bs are you getting soft? Directional scanner is a core pvp tool since ages. And You nerf it to see the cpu-load go down?
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Eisland
Hyperborea Re
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:26:00 -
[1362]
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Dansel
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Posted - 2009.09.03 19:35:00 -
[1363]
/signed
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Yay!! |
Kayla Val
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Posted - 2009.09.03 20:04:00 -
[1364]
Edited by: Kayla Val on 03/09/2009 20:04:38
/signed
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Dodgy rascal
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:34:00 -
[1365]
signed
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Oberon Ablefliesch
APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:35:00 -
[1366]
Fully support this. Two seconds is simply too long between scans and is gimping many styles of play. Change it back CCP - do it now!!!
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Fred511
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Posted - 2009.09.03 22:37:00 -
[1367]
Absolutely awful change, delays needs to be severely decreased or eliminated
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Lasakywa
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:38:00 -
[1368]
Seriously CCP, what were you thinking ?
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Kaydin Versailles
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Posted - 2009.09.03 23:49:00 -
[1369]
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doubleyourisknorisk
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Posted - 2009.09.04 00:02:00 -
[1370]
this topic FTW.
Get rid of that ****ing delay, its annoying
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Esht
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.09.04 01:00:00 -
[1371]
signed
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KOTorSiS
Surreal corp
Stain Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.04 03:25:00 -
[1372]
Signed
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Zalmox
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.09.04 03:41:00 -
[1373]
Edited by: Zalmox on 04/09/2009 03:41:02
/signed This is driving me nuts.
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Venaliza
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Posted - 2009.09.04 06:55:00 -
[1374]
/signed
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Hatchet Annie
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Posted - 2009.09.04 07:38:00 -
[1375]
dat fukken signed
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Eugen Ladder
Howling Griffins
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Posted - 2009.09.04 08:15:00 -
[1376]
/signed
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Kachi Ko
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Posted - 2009.09.04 08:39:00 -
[1377]
Old one was better.
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Defka Padla
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Posted - 2009.09.04 09:11:00 -
[1378]
Signed
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.09.04 09:45:00 -
[1379]
Nice threadnought
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Bonsa
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Posted - 2009.09.04 11:47:00 -
[1380]
/signed
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Brutus Taimon
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Posted - 2009.09.04 12:07:00 -
[1381]
/signed, even though I don't use the D-Scanner much right now, I can see how much of a DAI this is.
Maybe impliment a skill to affect the delay, or some such sillyness. Timesink ahoy!
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Weed light
SoT
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Posted - 2009.09.04 16:21:00 -
[1382]
/signed
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.09.04 16:56:00 -
[1383]
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.04 18:18:00 -
[1384]
FEEEX NAO!
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Typhena
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.09.04 23:05:00 -
[1385]
If we agree with this change next time you guys will change the jump portal to 2mins of delay
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BobMoo22
Radically Awesome People Eaters
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Posted - 2009.09.04 23:49:00 -
[1386]
2 seconds is BS...
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JavelinGR
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Posted - 2009.09.05 00:29:00 -
[1387]
Edited by: JavelinGR on 05/09/2009 00:32:28
It 's annoying allright.
/signed
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Wu Fan
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Posted - 2009.09.05 01:23:00 -
[1388]
Signed.
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FatalException
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Posted - 2009.09.05 03:23:00 -
[1389]
Yeah this is rediculously invasive and needs to be removed, it only makes for frustrations when scanning since it sends the msg when you change your angle and so on..
Please ccp, listen to us mere players, the same ones who pay your bills.
Bleh...
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Za Phira
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Posted - 2009.09.05 05:55:00 -
[1390]
+1
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eXeGee
UK1 Zero
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.09.05 09:40:00 -
[1391]
I feel like bumping this topic. New patch release and no scanner fixes - why? :(
This scanner thing is as dumb as cloak changes some time ago... but well... seems that CCP again failed to notice XX pages thread confirming that something is wrong.
Oh wait, they have better CPU performance for exchange with sh**tly gameplay experience? That's great... >_<
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Cypher Shaman
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Posted - 2009.09.05 09:41:00 -
[1392]
fully support!
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Frances Farmer
NoobFleet
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Posted - 2009.09.05 09:44:00 -
[1393]
Edited by: Frances Farmer on 05/09/2009 09:44:14
useless f a g g o t s
remove the s h i t from your brain and fix the damn scanner already
roll back this, it's the most idiot thing you idiots ever done
CCP = morons
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Jumponme
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Posted - 2009.09.05 10:54:00 -
[1394]
/signed
CCP = bunch of useless asses.
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Akiba Penrose
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:00:00 -
[1395]
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Reef Skywalker
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:15:00 -
[1396]
If You *HAVE* to, limit it to something like 6 seconds/maximum ship speed in AU. That will un-nerf fast warping ships while still nerfing normal ships.
OR You could just ban the guys that try to kill Your database with the directional scanner while not doing anything to the regular player.
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nrt
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Posted - 2009.09.05 11:32:00 -
[1397]
+1
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Chakrai
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Posted - 2009.09.05 12:22:00 -
[1398]
Agreed. At least make the "WTF RECALIBRATING" message stop displaying when your scanner is good again.
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Sempaia Tenda
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.05 12:34:00 -
[1399]
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Stein Voorhees
Ghost in the Machine
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Posted - 2009.09.05 13:02:00 -
[1400]
Very much signed.
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Carenthor Loon
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.09.05 13:13:00 -
[1401]
/signed, please change it back or make it significantly shorter |
El Goi
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Posted - 2009.09.05 13:15:00 -
[1402]
+1, fix please |
CampoV
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Posted - 2009.09.05 14:00:00 -
[1403]
+1
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Camios
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.05 17:34:00 -
[1404]
/signed
There is another way to cope with the lag produced by scanner abuse.
Here are two hints:
Roaming in poorly populated systems are suffering from the new limitations
Laggy fleet fights occur only in highly populated systems
CCP think about this and fix it please
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Shinichi Hakeda
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.09.05 18:10:00 -
[1405]
This scanner delay is driving me nuts. AHHHHHRRRRG!
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Rinolt
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Posted - 2009.09.05 22:04:00 -
[1406]
Couldnt get a ferox because of it |
El Presidio
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Posted - 2009.09.05 23:23:00 -
[1407]
This fixing something that was never broken.....no scanner delay pls.
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Tokp Lotas
the united
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Posted - 2009.09.06 00:01:00 -
[1408]
/full agree
Staff Member of www.eve-online.es |
Sigvald Gottschalk
Point of No Return
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Posted - 2009.09.06 00:18:00 -
[1409]
+1
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TwilightMadcat
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.09.06 01:27:00 -
[1410]
/sign.
no more solo nerfs plz.
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Ze Killer
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Posted - 2009.09.06 02:43:00 -
[1411]
/signed
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hesameno
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Posted - 2009.09.06 06:28:00 -
[1412]
/signed, stuff is like SOOOOOO lame!
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.09.06 06:52:00 -
[1413]
Edited by: MirrorGod on 06/09/2009 06:52:33
Edited by: MirrorGod on 06/09/2009 06:52:25
hey, CCP...
KNOCK THAT **** OFF
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Rei Toai
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2009.09.06 13:53:00 -
[1414]
does the CSM recognize this problem??
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I don't want to talk about it I don't want to talk about it
I don't want to talk about it I don't want to know. |
RedSplat
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.06 14:36:00 -
[1415]
Scantimer is an intentional attempt to gimp PvP?
Try jumping into a 0.0 system you know is likely to have ratters in; or miners!
Now try and D-Scan all the belts as fast as you can BEFORE the victim using imba omniscient local to protect them decides to warp out.
Wait, whats this....
You can scan again until 'x' ammount of time has passed.
If Local was Delayed in 0.0 and Lowsec this would not be an issue.
But it isnt.
Scrap this idiotic change.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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UFOPOCKET
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Posted - 2009.09.06 18:35:00 -
[1416]
!sup
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AKIRA RTF
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Posted - 2009.09.06 19:32:00 -
[1417]
+1!
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WarGod
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.06 19:38:00 -
[1418]
This just in!
The new EVE trailer (that can be found here - http://www.eveonline.com/download/videos/Default.asp?a=download&vid=230) should be edited to say 'the miner that was being pirated died because you couldn't scan it down quick enough.
That is all!
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.06 20:37:00 -
[1419]
Seriously need some dev input on this matter.
That and Ive never had the chance to say 'Page 50 sniper!'
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Zeminy
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.06 20:58:00 -
[1420]
In full support ... give me back my scanner!!
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Sveminir Trpimirovic
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Posted - 2009.09.06 21:02:00 -
[1421]
Supported
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GutsyGecko
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Posted - 2009.09.06 21:59:00 -
[1422]
fix it CCP!
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X3k5
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.06 22:06:00 -
[1423]
Edited by: X3k5 on 06/09/2009 22:05:59
/signed
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lIjii
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.06 22:42:00 -
[1424]
=]
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Viva Darkness
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Posted - 2009.09.06 22:44:00 -
[1425]
lol, now every PvPer or alike will support this, and someone who contribute from the delay - will not
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Virak'kara
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Posted - 2009.09.06 23:04:00 -
[1426]
/signed
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr
Smegnet Incorporated
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.09.07 00:45:00 -
[1427]
At first, I was highly annoyed with this change as I had been in Wormholes before I moved to 0.0 and I realized what kind of nerf this was.
Then, I went and watched a certain PVP movie and realized WHY this was nerfed.
Said movie showed first a Rifter and then a Typhoon engaging in some very interesting low/null-sec combats. I realized though that as they moved in to attack a player, the person controlling the ship would be constantly jamming the button to scan almost nonstop. This, to me, seemed like the reason CCP Nerfed it. I can imagine there would be some server-based performance issues with someone constantly jamming said button to scan the area. Also, it puts in a tad more risk to those who attack targets just as much as those who are getting attacked.
Is this nerf too much? Maybe
Did CCP need to nerf the constant hitting of the scan button? Yes
Did CCP need to make a stupid message that annoys the crap out of anyone? No
Will this affect me? No. (Since I didn't hit the button every .001secs)
Should it be unnerfed slightly? Again, maybe. It seems that CCP has decided it should be 2 seconds. I'm more of the opinion it should be 1.0-1.5 seconds per calibration.
Thus, no support for this.
--Isaac
Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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VALentuSYS
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Posted - 2009.09.07 00:54:00 -
[1428]
signed
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PhantomVoice
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.09.07 00:54:00 -
[1429]
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JesDarkJewel
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Posted - 2009.09.07 02:54:00 -
[1430]
not signed
You have Owerview for Fast information,
Scanner is slow information.
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Ather Ialeas
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 04:03:00 -
[1431]
Yet another nerf that makes solo/small gang pvp more difficult. Guerilla warfare and other quick strikes when outnumbered require up to date scan information and seconds count. If CCP is making this sort of ridiculous change then they might as well nerf every ship's warp speed.
PvP is what makes Eve fun, and the scanner's previous function significantly aided in one's ability to counter big blobs and catch stragglers. (Thinking this way, it's just another step towards fighting blob with blob, and doesn't flooding a system with people cause MORE lag than simply clicking the scanner?!)
Come up with a better solution!
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Calchura Daria
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.07 05:00:00 -
[1432]
Bring back the old scanner!
At the very least shorten the delay.
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XOLLOPYP
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Posted - 2009.09.07 05:05:00 -
[1433]
\signed
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Crotch Goblin
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Posted - 2009.09.07 05:23:00 -
[1434]
fix stuff
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Skorgan Shard
Mad Jester Mining
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Posted - 2009.09.07 07:11:00 -
[1435]
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hEtt
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 08:33:00 -
[1436]
Edited by: hEtt on 07/09/2009 08:33:37
Signed and also, it would be nice to have an autoscan option.
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Thingymawotzit
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:19:00 -
[1437]
my full support.
Bring back button spamming
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Orta Moon
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Posted - 2009.09.07 09:33:00 -
[1438]
:up:
If there's a macro problem, the solution is not to wreck a major game for the normal players.
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Ariorios
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Posted - 2009.09.07 10:31:00 -
[1439]
2 seconds are too long!
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Symlin Raahn
Killer Koalas
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.07 11:00:00 -
[1440]
Edited by: Symlin Raahn on 07/09/2009 11:00:23
support
òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò
ò Growing old is mandatory.
ò Growing up is optional.
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jmz
A1ONE Inc.
ERROR.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:11:00 -
[1441]
Edited by: jmz on 07/09/2009 13:11:01
signed
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DelboyTrotter
Trotters Independent Trading
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Posted - 2009.09.07 13:34:00 -
[1442]
Fix it! What used to take me 10 seconds now takes 30-50 seconds :(
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ANGRY23
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:12:00 -
[1443]
why was this crap implemented anyway? Please roll back this crap |
ilammy
Federal Space Academy
Red Army Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.07 14:53:00 -
[1444]
/signed
Thanks to the internets for my healty lungs and liver. |
sylvester stallowned
Trotters Independent Trading
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Posted - 2009.09.07 15:24:00 -
[1445]
supported
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DarkNoghri
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.07 16:14:00 -
[1446]
//support
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Zbulu
Caldari
Pink Bunnies
C0VEN
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:31:00 -
[1447]
Signed
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Brendalin Kerr
Caldari
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:59:00 -
[1448]
signed
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Sub Terra
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Posted - 2009.09.07 17:59:00 -
[1449]
Support...
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Dnai Hsrang
Cardinal Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:02:00 -
[1450]
rollback requested
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Stafen
Killer Koalas
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:06:00 -
[1451]
I support CCP taking the time to re-evaluate the mechanics for hunting targets in the solarsystem you are in, this includes the local chat channel.
At the moment you need a responsive scanner...
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Noesis Dream
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:06:00 -
[1452]
signed
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Vietac
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:43:00 -
[1453]
Signed /
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Espectre
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.07 18:45:00 -
[1454]
/signed
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omorb
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:03:00 -
[1455]
/signed
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:12:00 -
[1456]
Hey, just checking to see if CCP are actually aware this thread exists.
Im going to swear now, I'd appreciate it if no player actually reports this and wait to see if a moderator will read it.
F UC K
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MR SIPKA
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Posted - 2009.09.07 19:47:00 -
[1457]
/signed
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Ki Kentai
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Posted - 2009.09.07 20:05:00 -
[1458]
/signed
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Xavier Theakstone
the united
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Posted - 2009.09.07 20:08:00 -
[1459]
Signed
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Shalimar
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:03:00 -
[1460]
MMMMM...i SUPPORT THIS THREAD......
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LegoLady
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Posted - 2009.09.07 21:13:00 -
[1461]
signed
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Norahar
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:03:00 -
[1462]
signed
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N0VIX
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Posted - 2009.09.07 23:34:00 -
[1463]
yup
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Vytone
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Posted - 2009.09.08 01:08:00 -
[1464]
Signed
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Maggas
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Posted - 2009.09.08 01:46:00 -
[1465]
Yup Yup!
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Fyrkraag
Caldari
The Knights Templar
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Posted - 2009.09.08 03:28:00 -
[1466]
/signed
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TKT - Fyrkraag
The Knights Templar - Achievement with style: Maturity, integrity, respect.
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Sappho Lesbos
Swarm Of Locusts
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Posted - 2009.09.08 04:23:00 -
[1467]
Edited by: Sappho *****s on 08/09/2009 04:23:35
/signed
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The Deala
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Posted - 2009.09.08 04:26:00 -
[1468]
/signed
I'm a scout myself and this is unreasonable.
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Percefis
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.08 04:53:00 -
[1469]
Signed |
Szeth Kiros
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Posted - 2009.09.08 05:28:00 -
[1470]
Edited by: Szeth Kiros on 08/09/2009 05:28:21
signed.
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Daan Sai
Polytrope
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Posted - 2009.09.08 07:24:00 -
[1471]
2s is tooo long, give inties/covops a skill based 0.5-0.1s, leave big ships on 2s if you must.
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Internet Submarines is Serious Business
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Moad Dip
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:18:00 -
[1472]
Edited by: Moad Dip on 08/09/2009 08:24:40
Signed
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Lucky Bux
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Posted - 2009.09.08 08:26:00 -
[1473]
/signed
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Yazus Kor
Preta Light Industries
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Posted - 2009.09.08 09:25:00 -
[1474]
If this isn't changed back next patch I will kill this kitten.
/signed.
... Five. ****ing. Minutes?
"Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and he awaits you just beyond the last theorem." |
xInDridCold117x
Out of Order
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.09.08 09:46:00 -
[1475]
/signed.
Unneeded change that only makes stupid people safer, but if you won't revert these changes at least give us the option to get rid of that damn message. |
Pantheros
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Posted - 2009.09.08 09:47:00 -
[1476]
Thread supported.. 2 seconds is rediculous.
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Rab See
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Posted - 2009.09.08 13:06:00 -
[1477]
2 seconds - ARGHHHHH
popup center message - ARGHHHHHH
undefined nature of change to scan radius, is it a rescan ... ARGGGGHHHH
Did anyone with ANY pvp experience try these changes before rolling them out?
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8/ everyone |
Calarin
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.08 13:38:00 -
[1478]
Signed
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Bryan Walsh
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Posted - 2009.09.08 14:29:00 -
[1479]
/signed
Makes it so annoying to scan for ships especially when your out scouting.
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bw8
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Posted - 2009.09.08 15:30:00 -
[1480]
what the heck...50 pages and still no response from CCP?
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Alass
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Posted - 2009.09.08 16:12:00 -
[1481]
signed
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AizenSousuke
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 17:34:00 -
[1482]
Supported. At the very least please remove the annoying "Please wait, sensors are recalibrating" message that constantly pops up as I'm scanning, or allow me to move where the message pops up. My interface is cluttered enough as it is.
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Ch1
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Posted - 2009.09.08 17:43:00 -
[1483]
/signed and stamped
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Nihiliax
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Posted - 2009.09.08 18:31:00 -
[1484]
Having spent some time with this feature rather than just doing a knee-jerk reaction to change I have to add my voice to the throng and say this was a terrible idea. It may go some way towards cutting down lag at times but at too great a cost to gameplay/enjoyment - surely there must be a better way to reduce lag. |
Yaay
Game-Over
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Posted - 2009.09.08 19:09:00 -
[1485]
Edited by: Yaay on 08/09/2009 19:09:22
I understand the reasoning behind the change, but the worst part about it is, with the lagged text, you can't even figure out if you've actually scanned something or not until about 5-10 seconds after the first scan.
Horrible mechanic implemented.
DD changes
Docking PVP games |
Helgur
The humble Crew
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Posted - 2009.09.08 19:50:00 -
[1486]
/Signed
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Gastroc Nemius
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Posted - 2009.09.08 20:49:00 -
[1487]
i agree the new system does not work the lag on the message is the bigest issue you dont know if the scan updated or not
if its at all posible can we have the old system back ? |
Zastrow J
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Posted - 2009.09.08 20:56:00 -
[1488]
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
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Leilana Phi
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Posted - 2009.09.08 21:47:00 -
[1489]
Well, they could at least try a shorter delay, 2 seconds is way too much. Getting rid of the annoying message would help too. Maybe make the scan button un-clickable during delay.
And while they're at it, fix the forum so you don't get logged out when trying to post...
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.09.08 22:03:00 -
[1490]
Edited by: Dibsi Dei on 08/09/2009 22:03:52
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
I'm speechless... So they are seriously not going to fix it?
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.08 22:05:00 -
[1491]
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 08/09/2009 22:05:35
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
BLOODY CCP U GUYS FKIN SUCK, U GUYS ARE THE WORST FKIN COMPANY EVER FKIN LISTEN TO UR FKIN PLAYERS U FUKIN FKWITS FOR FKSAKES COME ON THIS WHOLE THING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY STUPID
I HATE U CCP FK U
edit : i suport this ideea
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Johnny Gurkha
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:04:00 -
[1492]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
If it wasn't for the ridiculous new probing interface this may have just been doable with ferrets and snoops, now it's too much trouble to ****ing bother with...
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Beyond Virginity
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:11:00 -
[1493]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
Well in that case, would you mind telling these fine gentlemen I rather want my lag back?
And while you're at it, ask if the graphs about average cpu used per player from their anti-macro campaign where completely bogus then, please.
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Troublexo
Behemoth Shipyards
Van Terra Systems
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:32:00 -
[1494]
Signed
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HellDoper
Black Dragons Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:45:00 -
[1495]
signed - this scan thing is totally dumb
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Wideen
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.08 23:51:00 -
[1496]
remove this ridiculous "function"
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Tyr Aegir
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.09 01:22:00 -
[1497]
fuggin signed |
Daniel Borealis
Minmatar
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.09 04:13:00 -
[1498]
Now that this has been implemented I have seen a huge decrease in server lag.
Actually, not at all. The minute server load contributed by directional scan usage has not effected in the slightest anyone's gameplay. At the moment, the incredibly terrible 2 second delay, coupled with the central pop up message, and the fact that changing the angle of the scan counts as a rescan, all come together to form a big heap of steaming fail.
Was this actually tested? Did not a single developer understand the faults of this change?
I find that hard to believe. Instead I will fall back on my personal motto, blatantly stolen from Penny Arcade:
"We are being digested by an amoral universe"
Well done CCP, you have somehow managed to screw the pooch once again.
Translation And Grammar Service
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |
Jordan Musgrat
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.09 04:56:00 -
[1499]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
I do not believe you. There's no way anyone could be that incredibly ******ed.
CCP you've ****ing lost it.
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Primary is family values, secondary is 0.0... |
fmercury
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.09.09 04:56:00 -
[1500]
I'll take the lag, thanks though, CCP.
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Xandi Crews
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Posted - 2009.09.09 05:01:00 -
[1501]
Edited by: Xandi Crews on 09/09/2009 05:01:50
Is this the biggest thread ever on this forum? Jesus Christ, CCP, get a clue. Reverse this ludicrous change.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.09 07:58:00 -
[1502]
i guess it's time for a general discussion threadnought right now.
___________________
---[SAY NO TO CYNO-LOGISTICS]---
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Arela Xen
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:24:00 -
[1503]
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Well in that case, would you mind telling these fine gentlemen I rather want my lag back?
What he says. ;)
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Ihn Dry
Minmatar
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.09 08:35:00 -
[1504]
AAAAAAH CCP don't sm**e too much and test what you change before.
/signed - WE WANT OUR LAG BACK
alternative : w/o a message box & 1 sec delay can be a compromiss
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oni911b
Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:40:00 -
[1505]
Carebear signing
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BruCe85
Endstati0n
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:42:00 -
[1506]
Well made CCP!!
Thake this nice Sandbax game and make a Hello Kitty Cearbear land \o/
Why immediately lowsec and 0.0 do not abolish?
Then nobody need the scanner!!
Only because people are too decayed to look on theirs scanner and some click too often on it
you act immediately again absolutely unthinkingly.
How u scan a system with 13AU/sec warp speed and 2 sec delay?!!
Eve online is the finest pvp sandbox game...
You already know that u destroy this??
Brainless Megablobbfights and cearbear NewEden is comming soon...
The lag is not realy better now, only your server traffic is lower.
WE WANT OUR LAG BACK!!!
2sec delay is a nogo!!!!
Play this game in pvp land and u will see what u do with this patch.
Make a 0,5sec delay and delete this fail popup center massage (make this massage no traffic) ?_?
or change the scanner range to 30-40AU.
Sry for my bad english but my english is better that this wunderfull patch *lol*
btw:
NERV CCP!!!!!
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:43:00 -
[1507]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
Moronic.
I can't believe that CCP are truly this incompetent.
There is NO other way to fix this? Christ...
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HELLO! I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
Karantha
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:56:00 -
[1508]
Bad move CCP, bad move. 2s delay is definately too high. 0.3-0.5 would be a much better solution for players and still dont lag so much server.
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40 Cent
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.09 09:58:00 -
[1509]
dont worry guys i already called bill and ted! ...they will bring back future ccp claw from 2011 to fix the scanner!
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:08:00 -
[1510]
Originally by: fmercury
I'll take the lag, thanks though, CCP.
Same here. Jesus christ, is there anyone at CCP whos tried to roam around looking for targets AT ALL??? EVER??
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:16:00 -
[1511]
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Originally by: fmercury
I'll take the lag, thanks though, CCP.
Same here. Jesus christ, has ANYONE at CCP tried roaming around looking for targets AT ALL??? EVER??
edit: so I make an edit to correct bad engrish and when I click to post I get hit with the 5 minute delay hammer
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Chyktar
RED SQUAD
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:18:00 -
[1512]
/signed
while(!(succeed = try())) |
Keanez
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:43:00 -
[1513]
Really getting ****ed off with it. Put it back
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:56:00 -
[1514]
this scanner fckup is the worst fail CCP did since i'm playing eve!!!!
Fix it!
Besides that, features killing customer's nerves are no good, really!
FIX THE CR*P!
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Ryuichi
Queens of the Stone Age
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.09.09 11:57:00 -
[1515]
Still agreeing with the general rage in this thread. (Supported further up)
I'd hope that a more elegant solution is in the pipeline to replace this heavy handed, and frankly hacky, change.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.09 12:02:00 -
[1516]
reducing the delay to 0.3-0.4 sec and just disabling the button for that period of time would fix the button smashing as well but in a much less horrifying and annoying way!!!
Quote:
Time Flux Detected
You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
Go back One page | Go back to forums
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Robdon
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Posted - 2009.09.09 13:11:00 -
[1517]
Edited by: Robdon on 09/09/2009 13:13:00
/Signed
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Blastil
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Posted - 2009.09.09 14:07:00 -
[1518]
I just read the patch notes for 1.5.1, and I think CCP missed something. Let me correct your problem CCP, this is what todays patch notes SHOULD read:
CRITICAL
Fixed ridiculous decision to place a ****ing 2 second delay in scanner, thereby rendering it nearly impossible to use.
FIXES
Need for Speed
During Apocrypha 1.5 we identified and fixed several potential causes for client-server simulation desync. Additional work in this area for Apocrypha 1.5.1 revealed the root cause of the remaining desync issues. We believe that we have now fully eliminated desync issues as related to the physics simulation. More on this in an upcoming Dev Blog.
It is now possible to shoot objects that are 0 meters away with turrets, and hit them (this is still subject to tracking.)
A server side issue has now been fixed that was causing node deaths.
Market & Contracts
The market deviation filters have now been fixed ensuring that the average price of an item is now calculated correctly at all times.
NPC's
The description tab of all NPC corporations will display the correct corporation information.
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The Optician
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Posted - 2009.09.09 14:36:00 -
[1519]
Edited by: The Optician on 09/09/2009 14:36:06
Un-nerf scanning pl0x
/signed
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Ruth Menewai
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Posted - 2009.09.09 14:57:00 -
[1520]
I haven't noticed a reduction in lag, therefore...
giev lag back plz
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CheezWhiz
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Posted - 2009.09.09 15:02:00 -
[1521]
Surely there are other areas where they can easily cut down more server load without f'ing over combat?
what about the market tab? You open up 1 section on the left and it loads EVERY module in that section on the right... how bout only loading that if a player specifically wants ALL that info... 99% of my market functions, i use the browser to find 1 specific module not 1 module and 10 others similar to it along with all their relevant market info.
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Stefoudemon
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:01:00 -
[1522]
/signed
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NaBeLLa
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:02:00 -
[1523]
/signed
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Bodica
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:03:00 -
[1524]
I SUPPORT THIIISSSSSSS
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Adamantium Beams
Section XIII
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:03:00 -
[1525]
Stupid carebear change
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Basicou France
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:03:00 -
[1526]
signed. the scanner actualy is annoying!
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Khayman33
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:04:00 -
[1527]
signed. |
vamira
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:06:00 -
[1528]
/signed
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V4lentina
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:07:00 -
[1529]
Edited by: V4lentina on 09/09/2009 17:07:21
/signed
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Spriggen Ma'for
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:09:00 -
[1530]
/signed
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Mao Khan
Section XIII
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:09:00 -
[1531]
get back to the old stuff
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Ghost Eagle
Section XIII
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:10:00 -
[1532]
signed
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CaPsA
Section XIII
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:37:00 -
[1533]
/signed
Signature inappropriate for a teen rated forum - Valorem |
TheLibrarian
Minmatar
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.09.09 17:48:00 -
[1534]
Well if they are not going to modify this, can we at least get the button fixed where you cannot press it again until the 2 seconds has expired, so that we know we are getting true results or not. That is really the worst part about the entire thing, is that your never sure if you actually scanned or not, unless you wait like 5 seconds, which is totally silly.
Also, using probes to find out if someone is in a safe is a rather difficult thing to do in systems that are GIGANTIC.
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Wemo
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.09.09 20:18:00 -
[1535]
2 seconds is too long
-Wemo |
Ferion Virian
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.09.09 21:46:00 -
[1536]
/signed
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Jumponme
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Posted - 2009.09.09 22:08:00 -
[1537]
I supported this before ...
I tried to get used to it, tried to see a decreasing in lag like the old scanner must have created.
But i can't get used to it. It's a horrible implementation ... "usability" is crap. If eve was a special software for a huge rl-corporation to manage their assets and employees, the programmer would get fired for that piece of **** he created.
Then the lag ... we went on roams in gangs of different sized ... from 5 up to almost 80 ... and nothing changed.
I still get ppl locked (read: i see them as locked, as one of my targets with hp) and my warp disruptor won't hit them although i got it pre-activated. I still can't do anything for 1 second after jump cause my mouse 'won't click' (but that's kinda normal ... i don't fall behind in fast gang).
And in large fleets with around 80 ppl i still get jump-in-lag. The sync-issues maybe better, but i yet didn't had the chance to see it ... wait till we get the next pos-pw to bump ppl out.
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The Cuckoo
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Posted - 2009.09.09 23:22:00 -
[1538]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
Is this for real? This is possibly the most ******ed answer CCP could have given. It is ******ed on so many levels. People aren't going to start fitting scan probe launchers, and screwing around endlessly with probes as a replacement for the speed of using the directional scanner.
This change is so utterly ridiculous, can CCP not understand how lame it is, and how it's upset so many players? Well, another nail in the coffin of what was once a fun game.
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Mdih Lihu
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Posted - 2009.09.10 05:32:00 -
[1539]
Please revert the scanner change.
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SoC Darkord
Silentium Mortalitas
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 05:59:00 -
[1540]
/Signed
Its rediculas, and that damn msg just doesnt go away i have to spam the directional scanner even more to watch for any changes because i cant tell if it scanned or not :/
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Mirix Han
Caldari
Gray Hunters
White Noise.
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Posted - 2009.09.10 07:43:00 -
[1541]
+1
impossible to catch anything not afking in belt
reduce it to at least 1 second
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Superpossee
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Posted - 2009.09.10 09:54:00 -
[1542]
Good scouting and soloroaming for ratters has become almost impossible. It has been hard enough catching all those script-controlled ravens, now its really impossible.
Just sitting in my ratting-ship and making money, occasionally joining a gank and i am really disappointed that the new patch is not fixing this uber-"$º"%
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s3xplicity
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.10 10:20:00 -
[1543]
Buuuuhuuuuu, cry more, please do, I mean it, it's so fun,so amusing ...
Btw. can I have your stuff when you all cancel your accounts ?
Oh, I almost forgot, L2p
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.09.10 10:20:00 -
[1544]
Support. I don't like it at all.
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Vaso Pukin
Monks of War
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Posted - 2009.09.10 10:33:00 -
[1545]
+1
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Umbra Armanis
EVIL ALTS
Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.10 10:58:00 -
[1546]
Supported
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Sidaron
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Posted - 2009.09.10 11:24:00 -
[1547]
+1
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Hatchet Annie
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.09.10 11:35:00 -
[1548]
I don't get this. How can they not understand how horribly this gimps even the most basic functioning of the PVP in their game?
What can we do, seriously?
I enter a system and see a few ships on a 360 scan, now to pinpoint them I need to click for 90 degree scan, then 60, then 30, then 5 degrees several times for different planets, belts, gates, stations, to see if there's a pos at the planet or not, etc., and heaven forbid they are in a mission and I need to pinpoint their location in empty space with numerous clicks.......add the 2 second delay to this equation and the chance of actually catching someone shrinks at an alarming speed.
And in the most torturous fashion I can even dream of. Each time there's that BEEEP and the message telling me to wait 2 seconds, I get a tiny ulcer from knowing that the target now has another 2 seconds to realise he's being hunted and gtfo. 2 seconds - a long time in a game where a fraction of a second can make all the difference.
I'll spend a lot of time most days thinking about fittings and strategies, I come home and do some basic testing on EFT, looking forward to seeing if the ideas work out...but then I log on to test the new setup for real. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. A few minutes of this, and I've had it. So I dock up and log off. No fun. And, more and more often now, I just play something else instead, rather than logging on to disappointment yet again.
And worst of all is knowing that - however significantly this change improves the lag situation - the game WAS working before. It's not like everything was lagged to hell and nobody could do a thing until the 2 second delay was introduced. Because now, even though there might be less lag somewhere (I haven't noticed it myself but I'm sure theyre not just plain lying) the game does not work at all. NOW it's broken. At least for those of us who like fast paced hunting-style PVP - the core of Eve's gameplay.
It's like playing Call of Duty 4 with a 1 DPI mouse. Try getting some headshots with that. That's how pvp is in Eve at the moment.
1500+ replies and the only response from CCP is a second hand reply through a CSM telling us to just forget it. What the hell is that?
CCP, please?
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Moarlazorz
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Posted - 2009.09.10 11:51:00 -
[1549]
Edited by: Moarlazorz on 10/09/2009 11:54:20
Edited by: Moarlazorz on 10/09/2009 11:51:25
/Signed
I think ccp is aiming to gradually remove pvp from eve and turn all ships into mining vessels.
What the ***! I just saw the comment about spam clicks causing lag - they've got to learn the difference between removing unnecessary flab from the game and chopping off a limb!
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Olex Grant
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:00:00 -
[1550]
+1 from me.
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"Smite the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered."
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Nobilia
Behemoth Shipyards
Van Terra Systems
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:06:00 -
[1551]
/signed - WE WANT OUR LAG BACK
Frauen sind wie Lootcans : anziehend und
unwiederstehlich aus der Ferne.
NSher betrachtet dann doch nur ein
Miner I oder dein Verderben. |
Da'Kor
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:07:00 -
[1552]
+1 from me as well.
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Veliria
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:07:00 -
[1553]
0.1 seconds and no more.
The reason it's used so much is because you used to be able to check stuff constantly.
It's also a nerf to Interceptors and Covert Ops ships (and Solo PvP) checking out the system mid-warp.
In addition, it's annoying as hell when reducing the angle to constantly get that message.
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
So out of the blue, rather than trying to discuss or introducing a tiny delay like 0.1 seconds, you kill off the functionality of one of the PRIMARY PvP tools in the whole of EVE without any discussion?
Spam clicking it was the way you could remain aware of your surroundings and check up on ships in warp.
Inties and CovOps ships had a role in this as a cloaked Covert Ops ship or an Inty in warp could quickly roam & scan around the system.
Everybody always brings a directional scanner but not everyone brings a (skilled) prober, but now we're being forced to use probes if we quickly want to check out a system for targets?
I'd rather live with the lag and keep the directional scanner as it was.
Not mad, just confused and somewhat dissapointed that such a huge change to the dynamics of PvP happens without any warning or discussion, as it would've instantly been revealed to you that 2 seconds is way too long a delay.
Spamclicking was the primary function of the directional scanner, not a problem that needed fixing.
The fact that was it being used so much that it was causing a load on the server should've already told you that it's NOT something you should remove so easily.
What's next? 10 second delay in fetching market orders for Tritanium?
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ikillmacrominers
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:09:00 -
[1554]
Edited by: ikillmacrominers on 10/09/2009 13:08:58
This feature is a bug, IMHO.
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NathanMoore
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.10 13:25:00 -
[1555]
/signed
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VinceNoir
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 14:20:00 -
[1556]
/signed
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Carcharadon Carcharias
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Posted - 2009.09.10 15:56:00 -
[1557]
/signed
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Juan Alfred
RSP Enterprises
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:01:00 -
[1558]
/signed
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Marillio
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:12:00 -
[1559]
Edited by: Marillio on 10/09/2009 16:13:38
signed
Give us back our scanner!!
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Therese Law
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:34:00 -
[1560]
+1
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:35:00 -
[1561]
/me would prefer lag to crippled scanner
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Lodoss
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Posted - 2009.09.10 16:46:00 -
[1562]
Give us back our scanner!!
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xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
BOUNTY. HUNTER. MINING. EXSPLORATION. CORPORATION.
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.10 17:25:00 -
[1563]
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 10/09/2009 17:25:18
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 08/09/2009 22:05:35
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
BLOODY CCP U GUYS FKIN SUCK, U GUYS ARE THE WORST FKIN COMPANY EVER FKIN LISTEN TO UR FKIN PLAYERS U FUKIN FKWITS FOR FKSAKES COME ON THIS WHOLE THING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY STUPID
I HATE U CCP FK U
edit : i suport this ideea
Edit : HAHA OWNED I SNIPED
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Suas
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:07:00 -
[1564]
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 10/09/2009 17:25:18
Originally by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996
Edited by: xXxDrAgOnWrAiThxXx1996 on 08/09/2009 22:05:35
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
BLOODY CCP U GUYS FKIN SUCK, U GUYS ARE THE WORST FKIN COMPANY EVER FKIN LISTEN TO UR FKIN PLAYERS U FUKIN FKWITS FOR FKSAKES COME ON THIS WHOLE THING IS REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY STUPID
I HATE U CCP FK U
edit : i suport this ideea
Edit : HAHA OWNED I SNIPED
I hate you. :(
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HELLO! I am Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. PREPARE TO DIE! |
Tyffanny
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Posted - 2009.09.10 19:22:00 -
[1565]
/signed
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Kazn Antilli
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Posted - 2009.09.10 20:02:00 -
[1566]
I would be ok with this change if they implemented it properly.
I have come to terms that this feature will not be roll backed anytime soon (or ever), but as said before:
Can you AT LEAST gray out the button or something?
Honestly, can we get this thread locked? It's pointless to keep this going.
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2009.09.10 22:49:00 -
[1567]
Wow, they seriously didn't fix this?
CCP BLOWS
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Soul Xtractor
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 08:25:00 -
[1568]
Wanna max 0.3 sec
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MadMax RuS
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 09:02:00 -
[1569]
Guys bring everyone you know to support this. Lets make 100 pages.
WE WANT OUR LAG BACK (and scanner too)
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.11 09:07:00 -
[1570]
remove it entirely or turn the button off for some fractions of a second ffs!!
Quote:
Time Flux Detected
You are going too fast! Wait five minutes and try again.
Go back One page | Go back to forums
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 14:13:00 -
[1571]
/bump
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Adam C
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.09.11 14:21:00 -
[1572]
+1 /signed
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.11 14:46:00 -
[1573]
Originally by: Kazn Antilli
I would be ok with this change if they implemented it properly.
I have come to terms that this feature will not be roll backed anytime soon (or ever), but as said before:
Can you AT LEAST gray out the button or something?
Honestly, can we get this thread locked? It's pointless to keep this going.
Oh no you don't! This is one change that HAS to be reverted.
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Joe Major
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:16:00 -
[1574]
sigend
fix it as fast as you can
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Scramma
Caldari
N0 Fear
Bad Boys Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:26:00 -
[1575]
right thing
spam the guys to change this ****
anit pvp politik! first the incredible sec los and know this
ccp only want carebears
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Yeo San
Trigger-Happy
Huzzah Federation
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:32:00 -
[1576]
Edited by: Yeo San on 11/09/2009 15:32:49
/signed
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Haxfar Portlaind
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:34:00 -
[1577]
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Kazn Antilli
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Posted - 2009.09.11 15:36:00 -
[1578]
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Originally by: Kazn Antilli
I would be ok with this change if they implemented it properly.
I have come to terms that this feature will not be roll backed anytime soon (or ever), but as said before:
Can you AT LEAST gray out the button or something?
Honestly, can we get this thread locked? It's pointless to keep this going.
Oh no you don't! This is one change that HAS to be reverted.
I lost hope... I am pretty sure that at this point this accurately represents CCP's stance on this.=)
I would be happy with a grayed out button in lieu of an annoying error message.
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Auroral Borealis
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Posted - 2009.09.11 17:14:00 -
[1579]
So... perhaps we should take this to general discussion, as CCP seems to not read this section of the forums.
Everyone repost there! :D
oh and this change is less than optimal, obviously... doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.
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Drichter
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Posted - 2009.09.11 17:43:00 -
[1580]
I actually got a reply from a GM about this whole "CCP not reacting" and he said the issue should be written down in "Features and Ideas Discussion" because this gets actually monitored by the devs. And to raise it to the CSMs ...
If someone would open a good thread in FaID it would be cool ... i won't, i'm bad at writing.
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Josh Causto
Gallente
Fatalix Inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.11 18:29:00 -
[1581]
Edited by: Josh Causto on 11/09/2009 18:29:30
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
I see this is by a CSM, and I think oh sh*t. But then i realize that he is a goon and I am like, damn I just got trolled.
The sad part is CCP probably thinks that probing is a viable option to using an inty to search belts...
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Zeba
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.09.11 19:09:00 -
[1582]
Just poasting to say the CSM and its attendant forums are about as effective as they have ever been..
Good luck with the initiative.
Quote:
[03:39:05] Emperor Salazar > HOLY **** ITS ZEBA
[03:39:20] Emperor Salazar > NEVER STOP POASTING
Zeba is the BEST! ~Mitnal |
Togakure
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2009.09.11 20:21:00 -
[1583]
Either improve the directional scanner so that we don't have to click multiple times to find our target or remove this 2 second limit.
To improve it, you might want to add markers on the 360 circle relative to the ship scanning. This marker needs to be updated as the ship is warping. These markers indicate what is appearing on directional scan.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.09.12 07:33:00 -
[1584]
Sort this out please. Maybe down to one second, without the stupid announcement.
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Icycle
In Theory.
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Posted - 2009.09.12 07:44:00 -
[1585]
Totally support this. Give me back that lag that I never noticed because EVE was more fun back then.
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Moebbius
Mordu's Special Operations Wing
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Posted - 2009.09.12 10:57:00 -
[1586]
2 seconds is way to long for waiting to scan.
Signed
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Arby Xtrys
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Posted - 2009.09.12 13:53:00 -
[1587]
/signed
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Sethi3
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Posted - 2009.09.12 19:58:00 -
[1588]
/signed
This feature is nothing but a nuisance. Remove it please CCP.
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Reckoning 09
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Posted - 2009.09.13 01:36:00 -
[1589]
Bad mkayyy !!!
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Gyris
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Posted - 2009.09.13 05:06:00 -
[1590]
CCP please for heavens sake fix what you have mistakenly broken. 2 second delay doesnt work.
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Tijuana
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.13 05:38:00 -
[1591]
CCP should ban whoever introduced this idea.
Supported.
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Vilu Duskar
Minmatar
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.09.13 06:27:00 -
[1592]
opened a thread in Features/Ideas Discussion.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1178194
but... you cant [/] here if you support this idea/discussion
just hoping devs might respond there?
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2009.09.13 10:02:00 -
[1593]
Bump because CCP is so dumb African children are feeling this one.
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Soraji
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Posted - 2009.09.13 14:31:00 -
[1594]
/signed
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.13 15:12:00 -
[1595]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 13/09/2009 15:14:06
Not signed, unless CCP also implements auto scanner and method to filter probes. Seriously, it's the future and we have to manually scan every 5 secs without being able to filter out junk from probes .
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Pretorax
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:44:00 -
[1596]
bump
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Bene Amarr
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:46:00 -
[1597]
Edited by: Bene Amarr on 14/09/2009 14:46:14
jesus
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Oli Robbo
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.14 14:57:00 -
[1598]
/signed.
CCP fail [yet again].. you guys should concentrate harder on not f*cking up things for the sake of it - instead of worrying about your new expansions.
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Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
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Posted - 2009.09.14 15:15:00 -
[1599]
please for the love of all cute furry animals the 2 second delay must go! its slowed my scanning down a lot and is incredibly frustrating.
Scanning people in belts etc is an action where fractions of seconds count and there isnt an hour of playtime where i dont swear loudly over this on vent. I would rather have random lag than always haveing 2 second scan lag please!
Here is some middle ground: make moving the scanner/angle reset the 2s wait. You wont be able to spam-scan your surroundings, but people scanning for specific targets arent slowed down. |
p4wl
The-Fallen
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 16:32:00 -
[1600]
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Ariel Avery
The-Fallen
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 16:33:00 -
[1601]
x
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.14 19:01:00 -
[1602]
Everybody head on over to Features and Ideas Discussion and bump/sign this thread please!
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Arcin Hamir
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Posted - 2009.09.14 19:15:00 -
[1603]
Agreed - it is a silly change.
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SanZo Fengi
Anonymous Alcoholics
Wrath.
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Posted - 2009.09.14 20:45:00 -
[1604]
/signed
Originally by: Kage Toshimado
Monkeys can make "chains" but not ladders. I think eventually, flinging monkey ***** will play a role in this experiment. That, or they'll all starve to monkey death.
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Xikorita
Mob Thought
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Posted - 2009.09.14 22:47:00 -
[1605]
signed. I didn't know I was very fast on hunting targets before this =(
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Asarles
Hounds of the Abyss
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Posted - 2009.09.15 06:24:00 -
[1606]
Less or no delay would be great
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BeanBagKing
Ch3mic4l Warfare
Gypsy Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.15 06:49:00 -
[1607]
Signed
And of course a link of support for the one in Features and Ideas, don't forget to give that one support too.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1178194
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Daneel Trevize
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Posted - 2009.09.15 08:43:00 -
[1608]
0.1s delay sounds better than what we now have.
Frankly the whole D scanner interface needs some work (filtering doesn't seem to work like the overview with rightclick, remove type) |
IsiL'Nom
Violet Vortex
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.09.15 10:38:00 -
[1609]
signed.
back to normal pls |
gr0z0chka
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Posted - 2009.09.15 10:57:00 -
[1610]
sign/
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Soldur
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.15 11:44:00 -
[1611]
signed I hate missing npcers because of stupid recalibration. Or atleast take the fact that it resets if hit hit scan to quickly it could end up taking 4 seconds to scan a belt at 5 degrees. I dont think they auctually thought it through i mean you go into a solar system with 10 belts at one planet u warp to that planet u mean to tell me that it'll take me 20 seconds to get a 5 degree scan on each belt it just gives people plenty of time to escape.
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barvo
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2009.09.15 11:51:00 -
[1612]
OP Signed - I realise it's to stop people spamming continuously and using up server processing cycles but it's pretty annoying and crap now.
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Nexus1972
Pat Sharp's Potato Rodeo
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 13:58:00 -
[1613]
/signed
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Pat Sharpe's Potato Rodeo
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Novantco
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.09.15 14:32:00 -
[1614]
Agreed.
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.15 15:09:00 -
[1615]
And don't forget to sign the thread over in Features & Ideas where our concern may be more likely to reach the attention of the devs.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.09.15 17:47:00 -
[1616]
GET OVER IT.... ADAPT OR DIE .... GB2WOW ....
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Jonathan Mcarthur
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.09.15 22:28:00 -
[1617]
/signed.
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Holy Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.09.16 02:55:00 -
[1618]
Edited by: Holy Wanderer on 16/09/2009 02:55:14
/support
Scanning is vital to so many parts of the game. Making it slower is bad, mkay.
If anything you should make it real time so we don't need to continue to clicky the button.
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Choppernicus
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Posted - 2009.09.16 05:47:00 -
[1619]
/signed
Nerf the scan nerf!
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Saithe
Heretic Army
Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.09.16 07:27:00 -
[1620]
CCP advertises the game as a cold ruthless game not for the weak of heart. it is a sandbox, where literally anyone can do anything. eve is not forgiving, and it will take everything you have earned.
yet they kill the core of the game that makes it ruthless and cold, piracy. they boost sentry gun damage, they take away warp to 0, they increase the aggression timer before you can dock/jump, they removed the old style probes and add new ones, and now they add a timer to our directional scanner. i swear to god, this game is going downhill and turning into carebears online. HEY, CCP, WE HAVE A GAME FOR CAREBEARS ALREADY. ITS CALLED WOW. IF SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE THAT THEY LOST THEIR ****, **** THEM. THATS THE WAY OF EVE. there are not a million quests and npc's to guide you and hold your hand through the entire game. no, you download the game, and get thrust into the middle of a universe, with nothing but your reaper and 5000 isk.
STOP TAKING AWAY WHAT MAKES EVE ITSELF. the core contigency of it, piracy. cold dirty ruthless bastards that teach the ****ing carebears of wow that convert over that this is not wow, and they will not have their hand held.
i mean, ****, after almost 5 years, pirate faction ships are FINALLY getting looked at for a possible buff.
/rant.
/signed. turn this game back into eve online before myself, and every other pvper quit and make this game carebear online II - space edition
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GuntiNDDS
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Posted - 2009.09.16 08:33:00 -
[1621]
Originally by: Hoo Is
run out of silly pictures yet ?
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yieasase
H3ad 4uarter 69
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Posted - 2009.09.16 20:25:00 -
[1622]
it still works, you arent frozen for like 20min but heavy rollbacks, desync and the usual other features are kickin in like hell.
ya selfmade e-warps works better now ;)
was testing it a bit and everytime i see more as 15 beltz in incoming grid i scream yea baby! what a wonderfull game-experiance, whats next a modul that turns off mwd? lol
boosting jammer *** altz as counter tackler isnt rly funny when youre getting scramd web and perma jammed by bots and getting damage from a weee weee raven at 300km =P... to easy using s-e warps now and raven army is comin in "hawt", looks like we should invest more in wild south east. rang rang
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CombatSmurf
Digital assassins
Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2009.09.16 21:29:00 -
[1623]
Remove.
Whats the similarity between having sex in a canoe and drinking american beer?
Its ****ing close to water. |
Jarome Keel
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Posted - 2009.09.16 22:15:00 -
[1624]
i would happily live with the supposed lag if you put it back to how it was please, look at all the votes
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Everfire
1st Steps Academy
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Posted - 2009.09.17 00:53:00 -
[1625]
i support this
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Gienah Corvus
Eve Defence Force
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.09.17 05:35:00 -
[1626]
Concur. Scouting can be difficult enough at times without extra delay thrown in. Find a better way to reduce the server load.
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George Mccloud
Gallente
Helljumpers
Double Dutch Rudders
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Posted - 2009.09.17 11:22:00 -
[1627]
Personally I haven't had any trouble with this so far, so if it reduces lag then I'm all for it. I would like to see that this delay is reduced slightly to 1 or 1,5 seconds though so it's possible to do some decent scanning while warping in an inty.
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eXeGee
UK1 Zero
KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.09.17 12:07:00 -
[1628]
Originally by: George Mccloud
Personally I haven't had any trouble with this so far, so if it reduces lag then I'm all for it. I would like to see that this delay is reduced slightly to 1 or 1,5 seconds though so it's possible to do some decent scanning while warping in an inty.
In this case i think you should show us your how-to-properly-sacn-after-scanner-nurf guide because i don't believe you haven't any trouble :)
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xiong ma0
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:28:00 -
[1629]
ffs remove this already, so god damn annoying
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ILikeISK
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Posted - 2009.09.17 17:48:00 -
[1630]
please remove this annoying hack that you added to the game. there must be a better way to address the issue.
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Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.09.17 20:28:00 -
[1631]
GTFO...
You've had to adapt to every other change ever made... grow a pair and learn to deal with this one...
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.17 21:59:00 -
[1632]
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
hahahahahahaha, probes as a fast mechanism for pinpointing ships
Seriously CCP How do you pinpoint a ship in a system in the 10 seconds it takes to align now?
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Smarten Dahlen
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Posted - 2009.09.18 12:39:00 -
[1633]
Edited by: Smarten Dahlen on 18/09/2009 12:39:28
Supported. Hurry up CCP
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Deyo
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Posted - 2009.09.18 17:41:00 -
[1634]
Supported. Remove this crap completely, lower the delay, disable scan button instead of giving useless and annoying message...anything but this.
D.
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0uch
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Posted - 2009.09.18 22:08:00 -
[1635]
WTF CCP? 55 PAGES AND NOT A WORD? SHOULD I DIG UP SOME DEV BLOGS AND POSTS ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU CARE ABOUT PLAYERS
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.09.19 14:03:00 -
[1636]
Originally by: Dirk Culliford
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
hahahahahahaha, probes as a fast mechanism for pinpointing ships
Seriously CCP How do you pinpoint a ship in a system in the 10 seconds it takes to align now?
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
Director of Education :: EVE University
Chairman of the CSM
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GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.09.19 14:34:00 -
[1637]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Originally by: Dirk Culliford
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
hahahahahahaha, probes as a fast mechanism for pinpointing ships
Seriously CCP How do you pinpoint a ship in a system in the 10 seconds it takes to align now?
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
you are indeed missing things, some call it spaming, i call it fast scanning
scouts with the know-how about quick scanning are valuable and belive me it isnt just simple spamming of the scan button
you are also wrong about not being able to pinpoint target while warping and scanning, i did it all the time even while warping and using 5 degree scan scanning celestial objects
knowing if target moved within parts of second is vital sometimes,
anyone suggesting probes can replace good inital scouting of a system need a reality check
the explanation that this change was neccessary to reduce lag from clicking scan button is ridicolous, everything we do in this game causes lag, will ccp introduce timer on every button there is in game ? there are things used way more then scanner, they too cause lag, improved graphic causes lag, every action in game causes lag ...but we can live with certain amount of it and we can definitly live with lag that is caused by scanner
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Plutonian
Intransigent
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Posted - 2009.09.19 15:03:00 -
[1638]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
Entering a system while hunting requires multiple quick scans. The faster you are at this the better your chances for catching prey/avoiding trouble.
In addition, when engaging solo in a crowded place (like Amamake), I've generally got my range set to two million kilometers and spamming scan during the fight. This is my only warning if others are warping in... and my only chance of avoiding blobs.
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
Perhaps I've missed something. Please explain how scanning probes can be utilized by a 'true solo' (single account) Rifter seeking targets in Amamake.
I understand CCP's need for the change. I've seen the graph depicting the before/after server load. But the current fix makes combat more difficult (and solo combat much more difficult).
Perhaps, if CCP refuses to budge on this, it would be advantageous to develop a new scanner mechanic which cannot be so easily abused yet is able to get important information to the player?
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yieasase
H3ad 4uarter 69
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Posted - 2009.09.19 22:51:00 -
[1639]
I would like to join one of these csm probing tutorials too lol
No question about pickin a crashed carrier in hughe blob fights or lowsex thingys.
This leads me to following questions:
50 celestial objects in incoming scangrid (letz call it beltz), all beltz are seeded around 360 and one vessel in your directional scanner.
1. How long is shortest possible timer, with directional scanner and how high(or low) is it with probing?
2. How high is the chance in total to get a tackle with these new features?
please note: you dont have to calculate ctrl-q and emergency warp cases.
Thats math for a, ya i think 10 year old kid and no you dont can do crosses here.
Do not forget you have directional scanner delay from 2'000 ms.
Nexttime we do it with aligntimer, warprange (including acceleration and dropping out) scanres, distance from vessel a and vessel b in scangrid from victim vessel b excluding lag, rollbacks and other sexeh features.
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Sliver Dragon
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Posted - 2009.09.20 00:03:00 -
[1640]
I am thinking that CCP is trying to move away from "spam clicking" in general. I cannot think of any other eve activity in which your effectiveness is determined by how rapidly you spamclick a button. Well, other than pod warping after ship kill, and that's just to get around ship death lag. Rather than "fixback" the scanning, I would rather prefer to leave the current scanning system as an antiquated "what's around me?" button and apply energies to fixing the "hunting other ppl" issue that this scan fix creates.
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ellena allente
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Posted - 2009.09.20 10:14:00 -
[1641]
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ISK Pumpe
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Posted - 2009.09.20 11:48:00 -
[1642]
Edited by: ISK Pumpe on 20/09/2009 11:50:12
Its not just spamclicking a 360 degree directional button. As long as you dont have scripts running doing the spam for you it really took skill correctly using the scanner to quickly find an object in space.
People not using the scanner or not knowing how to effectively use it should not post here.
Soloroaming/scouting has become a real pain and i have not done much pvp since that patch except for the usual ganking-stuff.
I seriously hope that there will be some fix to that. Reduce delay to 0.1, put in a good substitute (no probing is not, its too fkn slow), whatever... just make it possible again to effectively get a clue on whats going on in the system and where.
thanks
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S1r Minealot
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.20 12:32:00 -
[1643]
Originally by: ISK Pumpe
Edited by: ISK Pumpe on 20/09/2009 11:50:12
Soloroaming/scouting has become a real pain and i have not done much pvp since that patch except for the usual ganking-stuff.
I seriously hope that there will be some fix to that. Reduce delay to 0.1, put in a good substitute (no probing is not, its too fkn slow), whatever... just make it possible again to effectively get a clue on whats going on in the system and where.
thanks
this.
I cannot believe that the CSM is blowing this off, 55 pages ppl. Get real and get your head out of your ass, you were elected by the player not the devs.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.09.20 13:45:00 -
[1644]
Originally by: S1r Minealot
I cannot believe that the CSM is blowing this off, 55 pages ppl.
This, although it really does seem the CSM does not know a thing about directional. Well, other than the 360 spamming and waiting for something to appear -scanning.
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Sloppy Podfarts
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Posted - 2009.09.20 19:56:00 -
[1645]
No, it's still fine.
You babies are just looking foolish at this point.
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Colowz
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Posted - 2009.09.20 20:43:00 -
[1646]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
this represents the community?
all hope is lost
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skulled
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Posted - 2009.09.21 00:04:00 -
[1647]
And we're supposed to believe CCP play this game.
/signed
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McKinlay
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.09.21 00:07:00 -
[1648]
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K Shara
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.21 14:06:00 -
[1649]
this new scanning thing is crap, the 2seconds difference in seeing an enemy gang appear on scanner could be the difference between your fleet being able to setup to fight/get away. Add that too not being able to quickly pinpoint and narrow down targets whilst roaming HEH
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CHED
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.21 16:46:00 -
[1650]
agahghahgahgh
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.09.21 16:53:00 -
[1651]
LOOK... IT'S A NERF (NOT MUCH OF ONE TO 99% OF THE PEOPLE, BUT ENOUGH TO DRAIN THE TEARS FOR 55 PAGES OF THE 1%)
GET OVER IT LIKE YOU DO EVERY OTHER NERF... OR GB2WOW, ADAPT OR DIE!!!!
Pick Three:
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Raimo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.21 19:34:00 -
[1652]
Originally by: Plutonian
In addition, when engaging solo in a crowded place (like Amamake), I've generally got my range set to two million kilometers and spamming scan during the fight. This is my only warning if others are warping in... and my only chance of avoiding blobs.
Even this is good enough a reason to revisit this change. And the CSM really need to up their game if they don't understand the ramifications this has on more advanced PVP.
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S1r Minealot
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.21 20:50:00 -
[1653]
Edited by: S1r Minealot on 21/09/2009 20:50:41
daily bump to address this issue.
edit: first on p 56 woot
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Kalius Prime
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.21 23:31:00 -
[1654]
Everything I have to say has already been said.
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Kingwood
Amarr
Hello Kitty Pyjama Piwates
Global Disorder
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Posted - 2009.09.22 00:56:00 -
[1655]
Edited by: Kingwood on 22/09/2009 00:56:26
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
I hope you're not the one representing this on the next CSM meeting. Wtf at not knowing how to narrow targets down and recommending to use scanner probes instead. How did you get in there anyway?
edit: oh, and bump.
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aetherguy881
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Posted - 2009.09.22 02:54:00 -
[1656]
I agree, this delay isn't that great. Also ever since the update I've been getting directional scans that take upwards of 5 minutes. I don't want to say they're related, but I'm assuming they are...
Please remove or significantly shorten the timer.
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fyddlestix
Honour Bound
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Posted - 2009.09.22 12:32:00 -
[1657]
Please oh god please give us back a scanner that we can actually use . . .
This change has made my experience of the game about 10x more frustrating and pretty much wrecks a good scout's ability to give accurate reports or find hostiles with any reasonable speed.
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En Passant
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Posted - 2009.09.22 17:57:00 -
[1658]
I would like to say this change stinks and I'd like my old d-scanner back.
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Mr Crepsley
Gallente
SkillzKillz
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Posted - 2009.09.22 17:58:00 -
[1659]
Supported CCP need to reverse this
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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Lady Austaria
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Posted - 2009.09.22 19:35:00 -
[1660]
No support for this. KEEP THE TIMER!
All of the pirates and griefers, hard to feel sorry for ya.
So until this changes....I have a whole 2 seconds more to try and align and warp a barge.
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fmercury
Club Bear
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Posted - 2009.09.23 08:30:00 -
[1661]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Originally by: Dirk Culliford
Originally by: Zastrow J
yo the CSM asked ccp about this for you guys and they replied that the directional scanner puts a huge load on the server and spamclicking it was creating lag. You'll have to start using long range probes instead of an inty
hahahahahahaha, probes as a fast mechanism for pinpointing ships
Seriously CCP How do you pinpoint a ship in a system in the 10 seconds it takes to align now?
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
Have you ever used the scanner before?
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Miklas Laces
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 09:00:00 -
[1662]
bump
fix the scanner
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CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation
Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tourname |
Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.23 12:38:00 -
[1663]
Originally by: Kingwood
Edited by: Kingwood on 22/09/2009 00:56:26
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Out of curiosity, how do you pinpoint a ship by spamclicking the scanner? Since you're warping and spamclicking, I'm assuming you weren't using the 5degree angle scan. Since you wont have any directional or distance info, all you know is that 'Ship X is withing scanrage Y' of my current position. Which doesnt give you nearly enough information to engage a target.
I may be missing something here, but I am pretty sure you're missing a few steps between 'spamscan system' and 'kill target'. Yes scanning probes take a little time to set up, but you can cover an entire solar system with them once they are set up, and warp to targets immediately instead of having to figure out what exact location they are at (not to mention the directional scanner is useless against safespots).
I hope you're not the one representing this on the next CSM meeting. Wtf at not knowing how to narrow targets down and recommending to use scanner probes instead. How did you get in there anyway?
edit: oh, and bump.
Quoting a quote of fail. Seriously wtf
And bump.
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Willington
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 19:50:00 -
[1664]
/signed
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Eressa
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Posted - 2009.09.23 19:55:00 -
[1665]
/signed
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Mugli
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:01:00 -
[1666]
Seriously annoying, yes
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Carthaja
Minmatar
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:01:00 -
[1667]
Make it shorter, yes please
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Oh Jordan
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:15:00 -
[1668]
Edited by: Oh Jordan on 23/09/2009 20:17:04
Yes, at least make it 1 sec and make the notify-message last only AS LONG AS THE DELAY. Not longer
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Sylar McIntyr
Konstrukteure der Zukunft
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:23:00 -
[1669]
2 secs are too long
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yaomactdwoarzpza
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:24:00 -
[1670]
Edited by: yaomactdwoarzpza on 23/09/2009 20:23:52
signed
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cold0r
AMT.
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:25:00 -
[1671]
Signed
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Ihn Dry
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:41:00 -
[1672]
0.2 - 1.0 delay w/o any message !!!
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Vaddy GAC
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 20:59:00 -
[1673]
undo the delay CCP !
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Ricarda M
Rainer Luxus
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:05:00 -
[1674]
please!!!
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Judge Them
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:14:00 -
[1675]
Edited by: Judge Them on 23/09/2009 21:14:23
signed
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SiLeNCel2
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:15:00 -
[1676]
signed
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no matter what you say...
*snip* - signature removed, please make sure your signature doesn't link to a site with a password. -Ivan K |
Haschisch Kakalake
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:24:00 -
[1677]
signed
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Luna Nilaya
Blood Works Inc.
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:57:00 -
[1678]
signed
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Installing premium content... Deleting file: \boot.ini |
B0LDBAATAR
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Posted - 2009.09.23 21:57:00 -
[1679]
signed
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Luca Murphy
Gallente
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.23 22:28:00 -
[1680]
/signed
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Schneemann
Intergalactic Serenity
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 01:17:00 -
[1681]
/signed
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Phyrron
Gallente
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 02:27:00 -
[1682]
/signed
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Josefine Dark
SteelVipers
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 07:36:00 -
[1683]
Edited by: Josefine Dark on 24/09/2009 07:35:49
/signed
smile'n smite killboard |
JeepersCreepers
Endstati0n
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 08:16:00 -
[1684]
sup
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Nautsyn Thome
Minmatar
Shark Investments
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 08:22:00 -
[1685]
/signed pls give me my scannah back
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Gordon Red
SteelVipers
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 10:58:00 -
[1686]
1sec is okay
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Thaliya Dejar
Dark Rising Shadow
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 11:03:00 -
[1687]
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.09.24 11:29:00 -
[1688]
/supported
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Mark Hadden
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Posted - 2009.09.24 11:59:00 -
[1689]
I support this topic, remove the scanner delay
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LordCypher
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 13:33:00 -
[1690]
signed
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gibberface
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Posted - 2009.09.24 19:08:00 -
[1691]
Please Please Please Please Please change it
Please.
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DarkMan Jazz
Deep Space Exploration Squad
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.24 19:31:00 -
[1692]
/signed
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Arcturus Io
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.09.24 20:08:00 -
[1693]
/sigh-ned
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.25 05:22:00 -
[1694]
Latest CSM response on this issue, over in Speaker's Corner:
Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Please don't ignore the 1200+ supports for fixing the directional scanner!
V
ccp is not going to revert the scanner back to the old one.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.25 06:12:00 -
[1695]
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Latest CSM response on this issue, over in Speaker's Corner:
Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Please don't ignore the 1200+ supports for fixing the directional scanner!
V
ccp is not going to revert the scanner back to the old one.
jesus christ...
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Micia
Minmatar
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2009.09.25 06:35:00 -
[1696]
Edited by: Micia on 25/09/2009 06:37:23
Edited by: Micia on 25/09/2009 06:36:58
Originally by: Dibsi Dei
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Latest CSM response on this issue, over in Speaker's Corner:
Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Please don't ignore the 1200+ supports for fixing the directional scanner!
V
ccp is not going to revert the scanner back to the old one.
jesus christ...
That's one way of puttin' it.
Go voice your opinion in that thread, as to what the CSM should be addressin'. It's pretty obvious they're ignorin' what's goin' on in this thread.
If you already have a "thumbs up" here, make sure the CSM don't forget over in their topics to discuss this weekend.
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Kazzzi
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 09:16:00 -
[1697]
Fix the scanner. I'm sure you can come up with a better idea than the current scanner.
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Dan Grommel
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:03:00 -
[1698]
Really needs fixing asap. CSM ignoring this urgend issue makes me sad.
The high cpu load with the macros spamming scan for hostiles can easily avoided while keeping some delay for 360 scans (like one second) but removing it entirely again for 90, 60, 30, etc. narrow scans.
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Micia
Minmatar
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:09:00 -
[1699]
What the hell's wrong with you, CSM?
Too afraid to walk back to CCP, and tell them that the answer wasn't good enough?
If you have no idea how Directional Scanner works, then carry on your merry way.
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Zattron
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:23:00 -
[1700]
Edited by: Zattron on 25/09/2009 11:24:26
Im a ratter killer. The nano nerf almost broke me. It became much harder to solo and harder to catch ratters in belts. I adapted.
This 2 second delay is something that cant be adapted to. I can no longer jump into a system and find that ravens belt in under 5 seconds. I used to pride myself on my ability to use the directional scanner. Its a skill that is often overlooked in pvp. Now scanning out a ratter is utterly frustrating and most of the time pointless.
I could deal with a delay, a 1 second delay maybe? The problem bigger then that is that if you try to scan before the 2-seconds are complete, then the delay restarts. Here is a scenario. I scan and see a raven, no POSes, 4 belts equally distant. I narrow to 90 and attempt to wait 2 seconds then scan again. Woops I clicked a fraction of a second before the delay ended, now I have to wait another full 2 seconds. By the time I find the ratter hes already warping off :(
Clicking the scan button and getting no results should not restart the delay. Does clicking jump on a gate restart the session change timer? NO!
Why not just make the scan take that much time to display results like is done with probes. Then there would be some sort of feedback to the user that its ok to scan again. The current system is broken and needs fixing.
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Mary Makepeace
Caldari
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:31:00 -
[1701]
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Latest CSM response on this issue, over in Speaker's Corner:
Originally by: mazzilliu
Originally by: Vrikshaka
Please don't ignore the 1200+ supports for fixing the directional scanner!
V
ccp is not going to revert the scanner back to the old one.
then suggest changes from the crap that it is now!
There has to be some way of keeping the lag down without us using the horrifically broken 'improved' scanner.
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Wahad Bredkebir
The Wings of Maak
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Posted - 2009.09.25 11:39:00 -
[1702]
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Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.25 13:04:00 -
[1703]
Originally by: Dan Grommel
Really needs fixing asap. CSM ignoring this urgend issue makes me sad.
The high cpu load with the macros spamming scan for hostiles can easily avoided while keeping some delay for 360 scans (like one second) but removing it entirely again for 90, 60, 30, etc. narrow scans.
Good post
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hangnoose
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.25 13:24:00 -
[1704]
Signed
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Yan Song
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.09.25 15:07:00 -
[1705]
agreed
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The Devs were never meant to be an OMGWTF game-winning PWNMOBILE |
Zizoo
EXTERMINATUS.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.25 15:39:00 -
[1706]
support
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Emrys Ap'Morgravaine
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 16:38:00 -
[1707]
Whilst not being a scanner monkey myself, (I have people for that dammit...) I dont see any reason why PVP hampering would make sense to anyone, least of all CCP since they effectively feel that Eve is a PVP game (be it combat/industry/market competition/etc)...
Now if CCP have said they arent going to revert the change, then perhaps they need to consider once again re-examining the entire scanning methodology. Even if that means creating two entirely seperate scanning systems, one for wormholes/plex's/etc and one for ships.
Not that I'm endorsing that as an idea, its just a suggestion.
Em.
-=-=-=-=-
Reformed Carebear.
Much bear, zero care.
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Ga'len
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 16:44:00 -
[1708]
Edited by: Ga''len on 25/09/2009 16:43:59
/signed.
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Roter Baron
Evoke.
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.09.25 16:51:00 -
[1709]
old settings back pls
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 18:23:00 -
[1710]
In their handling of the scanner issue, CCP has proven themselves to be Minmatar -- but incompetant Minmatar. (Most likely Ammatar, but that's besides the point.) When a Minmatar engineer sees a leaky pipe, he quickly sizes up the problem and applies a suitable amount of duct-tape, sufficent to stop the leak. CCP, apparently, fixes the leak by shutting off the entire plumbing system.
I'm grateful for the efforts CCP has made to reduce lag, and the results have been a generally improved playing experience. But in this case, the 'fix' makes an important aspect of the game almost entirely unplayable. Coming up with a remedy for this should be a very high priority. I realize that there are plans for an eventual overhaul of the scanner system, but players need scanners to work passably well now, not in 6-8 months.
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The Flame of Freedom Burns On! |
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captain dirka
Caldari
Blackwater Syndicate
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.25 19:16:00 -
[1711]
signed, stop nurf batting the game ccp.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.09.25 20:24:00 -
[1712]
FYI I'm keeing my eye on this topic - but I want some clarification from CCP at fanfest before deciding if should bring it to the agenda.
Director of Education :: EVE University
Chairman of the CSM
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Damnskippy
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Posted - 2009.09.25 20:40:00 -
[1713]
\Signed
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Micia
Minmatar
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2009.09.25 22:08:00 -
[1714]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
FYI I'm keeing my eye on this topic - but I want some clarification from CCP at fanfest before deciding if should bring it to the agenda.
Dierdra, I really appreciate the support.
However, right before you have the CSM meeting this weekend I want you to go thumb-counting for all the topics you are actually discussing.
Do all of those topics combined even come close to this one?
Bring this up at that meeting, whether it's been "approved" or not.
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GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.09.25 22:47:00 -
[1715]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
FYI I'm keeing my eye on this topic - but I want some clarification from CCP at fanfest before deciding if should bring it to the agenda.
holy monkey, my faith in csm has (partially) been restored
We realize it will be hard to persuade ccp to completely reverse the change but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be attempted.
Then there is option 2 of adjusting current change. Most commonly people ask for reduced delay.
But there are also other ways to adjust it:
- removing annoying pop-up message
- scan button unclickable when in those 2 seconds
- scanner not automaticly scanning when you change scan angle
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Chanohr
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Posted - 2009.09.25 22:53:00 -
[1716]
old settings and old cyno jump effect back pls
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R0ot
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.25 23:30:00 -
[1717]
yep
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Nobilis Nefas
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Posted - 2009.09.26 06:32:00 -
[1718]
/signed
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Hu Compassionate
Blood Works Inc.
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.09.26 15:43:00 -
[1719]
This change is just plain bad.
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Tavor Jeager
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.09.26 18:15:00 -
[1720]
Edited by: Tavor Jeager on 26/09/2009 18:15:38
This is a very important issue 2 seconds is by far too long and maddening.
Tavor Jeager
Matari Warrior |
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shantaa
Caldari
Chronos Evolution
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Posted - 2009.09.26 19:46:00 -
[1721]
I approve of the change. iirc the change was implemented to prevent spamming the scan button and to remove an exploit. This is eve, adapt or die!
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2009.09.26 20:05:00 -
[1722]
Supporting
I have recently started to use a scanner to much more extent , this 2 seconds delay is horrible.
Solution : Either reverse change or make button unclickabble within this 2 seconds.
First is better.
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Nefal Tiris
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Posted - 2009.09.26 22:59:00 -
[1723]
agreed
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Intigo
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.27 11:46:00 -
[1724]
This is far too long down the list.
Also, for the love of God - change it to a 1s timer and make it unclickable while the scan timer is active. Or do one of those two things.
This isn't a hard fix.
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HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it. |
Jakus Cemendur
Caldari
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.09.27 17:04:00 -
[1725]
so, were almost at 60 pages of people saying how much the new scan times suck, is it not time to just remove it...
/signed
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Drichter
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Posted - 2009.09.28 08:44:00 -
[1726]
I got used to it ... like you can get used to drive a car with a flat wheel. You may control it, but it just don't feel right.
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Miklas Laces
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.09.28 10:11:00 -
[1727]
Originally by: Jakus Cemendur
so, were almost at 60 pages of people saying how much the new scan times suck, is it not time to just remove it...
Of course, if CCP would give a crap about PvP
________________________________________________
CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation
Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tourname |
Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.09.28 11:38:00 -
[1728]
Originally by: Drichter
I got used to it ... like you can get used to drive a car with a flat wheel. You may control it, but it just don't feel right.
same here. I don't like it but I do what I can. for once, you'll see more people using there heads when it comes to hunting lmao.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.28 13:31:00 -
[1729]
Originally by: Jakus Cemendur
so, were almost at 60 pages of people saying how much the new scan times suck, is it not time to just remove it...
/signed
Give them time to sort through all the alts posting support .
This change almost exclusively affects "PVPers" (I'm using the term PVP losely here, since PVE fits have ZERO chance in combat) preying on lo sec/0.0 miners/ratters, which already are pretty extinct in belts. This change may actually bring a tiny bit of life back into the lo sec belts and you're having an emoragequite moment over it?
Relax folks.
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Kamuniak
Alternative Solutions
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Posted - 2009.09.28 23:41:00 -
[1730]
fix it pls |
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Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.29 11:16:00 -
[1731]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 28/09/2009 18:21:52
Originally by: Jakus Cemendur
so, were almost at 60 pages of people saying how much the new scan times suck, is it not time to just remove it...
/signed
Give them time to sort through all the alts posting support .
This change almost only and exclusively affects "PVPers" that target defenceless belt ratters/miners in lo sec/0.0 which are already pretty scarce to begin with. And I'm using the term "PVP" losely here since PVE fits have ZERO chance against PVP fits in combat.
This change may actually bring a tiny bit of life back into the lo sec belts and you're having an emoragequit moment over it?
FFS relax. Go take your ADD and pimple control meds, go introduce yourselves to the sun, and give this change a chance for once.
Sounds like you're the one that needs to relax, also you can perfectly PVE fine in a PVP fit
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.29 11:45:00 -
[1732]
Originally by: Count MonteCarlo
...also you can perfectly PVE fine in a PVP fit
Yes, you can perfectly mine a belt on a PVP ship
You guys truly are either incredibly selfish (don't give a crap about other professions) or just plain ******ed.
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Intigo
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.09.29 12:00:00 -
[1733]
This change is so dumb, lalala. *hums a tune*
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Originally by: Count MonteCarlo
...also you can perfectly PVE fine in a PVP fit
Yes, you can perfectly mine a belt on a PVP ship
You guys truly are either incredibly selfish (don't give a crap about other professions) or just plain ******ed.
Incompetent and bitter carebear spotted. Or a really persistent troll.
Either way - pretty sad, bro. :\
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HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.29 12:51:00 -
[1734]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/09/2009 12:56:13
Originally by: Intigo
Incompetent and bitter carebear spotted. Or a really persistent troll.
Either way - pretty sad, bro. :\
Oh when oh when will you look in the mirror and realize that YOU are the carebear you intensely despise, "bro". 60 pages of whinage and tears because the miners and belt ratters you target may actually start populating lo sec belts again. Your target is already ridiculously defenseless. Your target has pretty much desolated lo sec belts, and yet you're STILL here crying and moaning like those you yourself call carebears. See my sig .
Edit: By the way I love the irony of you calling me incompetent. Have you been able to adapt yet?
Edit 2: LOL - Carebears should have to "adapt" and mine and rat on PVP fits, but you shouldn't have to adapt to a 2-second scanner change I love your hypcorisy, "bro".
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Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.29 12:57:00 -
[1735]
Who said directional scanners are only used to find PVEers?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.29 13:02:00 -
[1736]
Indeed, who did? I said the 2-second change almost exclusively affects PVPers targetting belt ratters and miners. And to ***** and moan about that 2-second change is ridiculous considering they don't have a chance to survive an encounter against a PVP fit. Everyone else should be able to easily adapt.
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Corwain
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:06:00 -
[1737]
Make the button unclickable until you can scan again at least...at best reduce or remove the delay.
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Gurilur
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:11:00 -
[1738]
/signed
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Count MonteCarlo
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:13:00 -
[1739]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/09/2009 13:23:02
Indeed who did? Stop setting up a strawman . I said the 2-second change almost exclusively affects PVPers targetting belt ratters and miners. And to ***** and moan about that 2-second change is ridiculous considering they don't have a chance to survive an encounter against a PVP fit. So basically, let the change take its course. It might actually benefit you in the long run. This will require time, which I know can be difficult if you have a short attention span. You and everyone else should be able to easily adapt.
You know that phrase you're always telling carebears? Adapt or die? Try it some time. Or you could just see my sig, emo-rage-quit already.
You're trying too hard
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:28:00 -
[1740]
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/09/2009 15:32:37
Originally by: Count MonteCarlo
You're trying too hard
Trying too hard what?
If you mean trying too hard in arguing with you, yes, usually arguing with close-minded and selfish people like you requires hell extra effort because common sense and logic do not compute with you. But that isn't my fault, dude :/.
Edit: By the way, 60 pages of pirate and their alts emo tears and I am the one trying too hard? All I can say is Wow to that .
Edit 2: LOLHydra
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Sir Muffoon
Debitum Naturae
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:37:00 -
[1741]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 29/09/2009 15:32:37
Originally by: Count MonteCarlo
You're trying too hard
Trying too hard what?
If you mean trying too hard in arguing with you, yes, usually arguing with close-minded and selfish people like you requires hell extra effort because common sense and logic do not compute with you. But that isn't my fault, dude :/.
Edit: By the way, 60 pages of pirate and their alts emo tears and I am the one trying too hard? All I can say is Wow to that .
Edit 2: LOLHydra
He means that when you're trolling you should try to make people think you're serious. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.09.29 15:42:00 -
[1742]
Originally by: Sir Muffoon
He means that when you're trolling you should try to make people think you're serious.
Ok got it, thanks . Never thought of it that way.
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Modrak Vseth
Veto.
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Posted - 2009.09.29 18:52:00 -
[1743]
Super annoying. Support.
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Sard Caid
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.09.29 19:55:00 -
[1744]
I'm in your thread, supportin' your topics.
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Vladstorm
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Posted - 2009.09.30 19:29:00 -
[1745]
support. why the silence ccp?
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Jangizal
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.09.30 21:20:00 -
[1746]
You have my support. |
Infinitus Perrenis
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.09.30 21:47:00 -
[1747]
No support!
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yieasase
H3ad 4uarter 69
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Posted - 2009.09.30 22:42:00 -
[1748]
freezy button works fine, better as before, whats me thinkin.
As a active solo roamer or ganker prly pr0 fleet ship spinner you had i before, frozen thats it kick in, luck or helldeath.
My feeling from the last day with a "pure" solo action was horrible, tested with diff chars. 2 sec delay? fix it? never? It looked like same with diff c-sys, ips whine whine, why bringin kiddi stuff, you can bring the good one.
Fraps look rly annyoing, rollback shiat, horrible lagspikes with a handfull of characters lurkin around the node, freezy feature like theres no second day.
You remember as he could freeze up for like couple mins? and you enjoyed aftherwards all incomin luv? like before, your frozen and he deals and reclockin, looks like evol random combo of all the **** together, always hard to say, what kind of hamster shiat is this?
bot>macro>500kplayers
to easy ****in a node up with just one macro
rang rang
Serious **** it is, i stopped counting at 100 ctlr-qs, frapsin invincible wee wees wasnt rly what i excepted thought i will never see a emergency warper in a belt lol, kk i see more at a gate now. hail to all macrofarmers! no bugged bots =(, still lookin for numero quattro. yo youre right we will never catch a e-warper with 0 delay but i can confirm: shooting player owned structures with up to couple hundert players runs 1 frame faster. oh lcl scan please wait 2nd cause you ****** jump and tried scanning at the same time, uumm yea raven in scan! um no, scan from last sys again? wait i cant erm ya 15 beltz pin down biatch please wait draggin ammo into can cant itz in- ex- ploding whateva ooooh fuuuuu youu you cant cargoontainer is still doing babys you cant you cant 15 degree why not 5 erm, please wait ah got ya erm no hes in belt 1, 4 , 5, erm or 6, 7 ya you saw him not in this one smack smack this belt he must be in, i can scan 5 yo here he is warp acceleration into warp, minimize box open browser tip in adress for melonlovers ring ring baby! maximize box still in warp he ctrl-qed nope kk, alt tab, holy melons! alt tab uhhhh im dropping out of warp biiiiatch, 3000km, 2950km -10-15 seconds later 90km, 0km youre still in warp yooooo, youre getting soooo buttsexd, ctlr-leftmouse bajillion times please wait until your scanrestimer 1,5 sexs left runs down you cant target ship smack smack cause it is invincible, itz invincible, ah he emergency warped in the last 2 seconds, notify 3 npc buttheads switch from ship invincible to you! notify your tripple webbed pointed notifiy lcl scan 360 shortrange permajammertackle, scanner? you cant you cant you cant yup here he is a ***con alt ftw, lol he got decloaked by moon?
2 second scanner delay for a better world! your thinkin yo, but fix freezers, sux
um 2 lcl, ah 2 ravens ctrl-q, ctrl-q uum hey! raven 5 degree still in belt something is going rly wrong here a dont forget pointed by npc no aggro he will dissapear in ya 60, f uuuuuuu - land in belt
why dont i see cynobeacons in my overview?
add to your overview you m! open overviewsettings remove erm kk, beacons! yea got ya
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0906/2009.06.27.01.38.24.jpg
all in all, no pvzzy k0kgzvgga as csm thats what im sayin always the same with biology
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kouyou
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Posted - 2009.09.30 23:23:00 -
[1749]
SIGNED !!!
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Vrikshaka
Yawn Corp
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Posted - 2009.09.30 23:56:00 -
[1750]
Originally by: yieasase
freezy button works fine, better as before, whats me thinkin.
As a active solo roamer or ganker prly pr0 fleet ship spinner you had i before, frozen thats it kick in, luck or helldeath.
My feeling from the last day with a "pure" solo action was horrible, tested with diff chars. 2 sec delay? fix it? never? It looked like same with diff c-sys, ips whine whine, why bringin kiddi stuff, you can bring the good one.
Fraps look rly annyoing, rollback shiat, horrible lagspikes with a handfull of characters lurkin around the node, freezy feature like theres no second day.
You remember as he could freeze up for like couple mins? and you enjoyed aftherwards all incomin luv? like before, your frozen and he deals and reclockin, looks like evol random combo of all the **** together, always hard to say, what kind of hamster shiat is this?
bot>macro>500kplayers
to easy ****in a node up with just one macro
rang rang
Serious **** it is, i stopped counting at 100 ctlr-qs, frapsin invincible wee wees wasnt rly what i excepted thought i will never see a emergency warper in a belt lol, kk i see more at a gate now. hail to all macrofarmers! no bugged bots =(, still lookin for numero quattro. yo youre right we will never catch a e-warper with 0 delay but i can confirm: shooting player owned structures with up to couple hundert players runs 1 frame faster. oh lcl scan please wait 2nd cause you ****** jump and tried scanning at the same time, uumm yea raven in scan! um no, scan from last sys again? wait i cant erm ya 15 beltz pin down biatch please wait draggin ammo into can cant itz in- ex- ploding whateva ooooh fuuuuu youu you cant cargoontainer is still doing babys you cant you cant 15 degree why not 5 erm, please wait ah got ya erm no hes in belt 1, 4 , 5, erm or 6, 7 ya you saw him not in this one smack smack this belt he must be in, i can scan 5 yo here he is warp acceleration into warp, minimize box open browser tip in adress for melonlovers ring ring baby! maximize box still in warp he ctrl-qed nope kk, alt tab, holy melons! alt tab uhhhh im dropping out of warp biiiiatch, 3000km, 2950km -10-15 seconds later 90km, 0km youre still in warp yooooo, youre getting soooo buttsexd, ctlr-leftmouse bajillion times please wait until your scanrestimer 1,5 sexs left runs down you cant target ship smack smack cause it is invincible, itz invincible, ah he emergency warped in the last 2 seconds, notify 3 npc buttheads switch from ship invincible to you! notify your tripple webbed pointed notifiy lcl scan 360 shortrange permajammertackle, scanner? you cant you cant you cant yup here he is a ***con alt ftw, lol he got decloaked by moon?
2 second scanner delay for a better world! your thinkin yo, but fix freezers, sux
um 2 lcl, ah 2 ravens ctrl-q, ctrl-q uum hey! raven 5 degree still in belt something is going rly wrong here a dont forget pointed by npc no aggro he will dissapear in ya 60, f uuuuuuu - land in belt
why dont i see cynobeacons in my overview?
add to your overview you m! open overviewsettings remove erm kk, beacons! yea got ya
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0906/2009.06.27.01.38.24.jpg
all in all, no pvzzy k0kgzvgga as csm thats what im sayin always the same with biology
I used to fly with this dude called Neal Cassady, I think he was in that story somewhere. Care for a refill on that mescaline?
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wotchamacallit
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Posted - 2009.10.01 01:30:00 -
[1751]
Gimme better scanner!!!
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.01 11:27:00 -
[1752]
This thread needs more cowbell.
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Onur Six
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Posted - 2009.10.01 13:16:00 -
[1753]
supported.
at least reduce it to 1 second
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Voltas Stormtide
Shadow Company
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.10.01 17:39:00 -
[1754]
Support reverting it.
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Gentronic
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Posted - 2009.10.01 19:16:00 -
[1755]
yes the new delay drives me up the wall more so because the damn error stays on your screen for more than 2 seconds covering stuff that could be more interesting than it is
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.10.01 19:56:00 -
[1756]
From Testing Subforum
Originally by: CCP Evince
This is a temporary change on Sisi and I'm afraid this does not mean that the trottle timer is going to be removed. It might be shortened, but not removed.
So can we drop this now and move on? There's no point wasting any more pixels (or the CSM's time) trying to get CCP to change their mind when they have point blank said this isn't changing.
--Vel
In the world of emoticons, I was colon capital d. |
Bel'shamharoth
Lone Star Academy
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:22:00 -
[1757]
supported.
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I'm not a fig plucker or a fig plucker's son, but I'll pluck figs till the fig plucking's done. |
GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.10.01 20:56:00 -
[1758]
Originally by: De'Veldrin
From Testing Subforum
Originally by: CCP Evince
This is a temporary change on Sisi and I'm afraid this does not mean that the trottle timer is going to be removed. It might be shortened, but not removed.
So can we drop this now and move on? There's no point wasting any more pixels (or the CSM's time) trying to get CCP to change their mind when they have point blank said this isn't changing.
nop, we still want it changed, maybe they wont remove it but they should defo change it (shorter timer, unclickable button, no msg, no rescan on angle change, etc) |
Johnny Trigger
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.02 18:28:00 -
[1759]
Edited by: Johnny Trigger on 02/10/2009 18:29:45
scan heat is the best solution imo.
allow a reasonable amount of delay free scanning for up to 15 seconds; if there are more than 15 or 20 scans in that timeframe then put in the delay for a minute or so.
edit: typo
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fire elf
Solar Storm
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.10.02 19:34:00 -
[1760]
Edited by: fire elf on 02/10/2009 19:36:24
Supported !
I Want My fast Scaning BACK !! IT WAS USED TO LET MY VAGA GO AWAY IF REDS WENT MY WAY !º !!!
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JustBlaze
Fremen Sietch
DarkSide.
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Posted - 2009.10.02 22:16:00 -
[1761]
Edited by: JustBlaze on 02/10/2009 22:21:24
Edited by: JustBlaze on 02/10/2009 22:18:14
Signed. Return fast scaner. PLS. I need kill hunters MOOAAAAAAARRRRRRRR....
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Helper Two
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Posted - 2009.10.02 22:25:00 -
[1762]
YEP
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Ai Fuu
Gallente
New Dawn Corporation
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Posted - 2009.10.02 23:34:00 -
[1763]
SUPPORT, no more ravens on my scanner please FIX!
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Elvor Dark
New Dawn Corporation
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.10.02 23:37:00 -
[1764]
Stupid idea this was, recalibration time... Awful!
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Casius
Deep Space Exploration Squad
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2009.10.03 00:11:00 -
[1765]
Edited by: Casius on 03/10/2009 00:11:05
Makes the scanning down of targets A LOT harder!
Support!
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The Cuckoo
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Posted - 2009.10.05 10:30:00 -
[1766]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
FYI I'm keeing my eye on this topic - but I want some clarification from CCP at fanfest before deciding if should bring it to the agenda.
Fanfest is over, many enquiring minds want to know how you got on.
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Miklas Laces
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.10.05 11:24:00 -
[1767]
CSM delegates: did you ask CCP about this ?
(if not you fail and CSM is useless)
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CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation
Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tourname |
Cyno Signora
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.10.05 11:36:00 -
[1768]
Fix the scanner, if you dont want to remove the delay just listen to the players, there's a lot of excellent feedback and ideas, just go and read.
The current status is ******ed and just makes me want to quit the game everytime I get the annoying pop-up and take 10 seconds to scan 3 belts while all targets warp out.
Seriously it's the single most ******ed thing that was ever done. It's totally stupid and it's embarassing that you released that on the live server.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.10.05 13:46:00 -
[1769]
Adapt or die?
Just sayin'. "What's good for the goose is..." and all that.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.05 14:09:00 -
[1770]
is the scanner going to be fixed soon finally??
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.05 17:03:00 -
[1771]
Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
Adapt or die?
Just sayin'. "What's good for the goose is..." and all that.
There is no adaptation to the handicap that has been placed on hunters.
The situation is as follows:
--Jump in, 360 scan, target on scan (*usually a raven).
--Recalibrate scanner, narrow down in a direction of belts that likely hold the target and scan again
--scanner is empty
--rescan 360 degrees, scanner is empty because the pilot saw you in FRIGGIN LOCAL CHAT he has now warped and cloaked.
CCP have stated that small gang and solo warfare should remain viable thoughout the changes they have made, and yet change after change they have handicapped the hunter to the point that now, if you go roaming, your effectively just going sight seeing as the chances of you catching a target have been reduced to near nothing.
Pretty much leaving you to engage defense fleets or assault fleets ONLY.
Resource Denial is a VALID warfare tactic, and needs to be allowed to live on, or all you will have is blob on blob crap ass fights that are of a limited fun, and take hours of prep time.
The scanner change has crippled the ability of an aggressor to wage Resource Denial on an entrenched sov holding body, by making it virtually impossible to catch someone in space if they are simply AT their computer and paying attention to local.
Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
lickmedism
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Posted - 2009.10.05 18:43:00 -
[1772]
__________________________________
My Karma just ran over your Dogma. |
GreGh Rakrot
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.10.05 19:57:00 -
[1773]
according to "forum that shall not be named" ccp is decreasing timer to 1.3 sec and making button unclickable during that timer |
Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.10.05 19:59:00 -
[1774]
Quote:
ADAPT OR DIE
Sweet Bubbah, Drop it already... you all spam the button and lag my game... GTF over it... or go play Mine Sweeper or something
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a reply which adds nothing to a thread or results in a thread being bumped with no new discussion worthy content is considered spam and as such warrants a forum ban |
Grath Telkin
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.05 20:37:00 -
[1775]
Originally by: Hoo Is
Quote:
ADAPT OR DIE
Sweet Bubbah, Drop it already... you all spam the button and lag my game... GTF over it... or go play Mine Sweeper or something
Perhaps you know something that we don't, and have adapted in ways that the rest of us can't understand (your limitless intellect is shown in your post, so I'm obviously not doubting you..).
I guess you have a way of finding targets that the rest of us obviously inferior creatures can't grasp, so perhaps you'll enlighten us on what it is.
Perhaps if they gave us a working functional scanner, OR gave hunters back the ability to actually hunt things besides the ever present mass of ships that make up the blob we wouldn't be "lagging your game". Also, since its your game, can we now forward all complaints about it to your inbox?
Please resize your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.06 11:27:00 -
[1776]
even 1.3 sec. is too long!!
The delay should be only 0.5 sec. max, however this would eliminate all the network load caused by button smashers.
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Die Kutte
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Posted - 2009.10.06 15:20:00 -
[1777]
1.3s yea....
Thats still ****
whatever, if a game gets too annoying there is always time for a break :P
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Terozar
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Posted - 2009.10.07 01:11:00 -
[1778]
SIGNED
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.10.07 04:17:00 -
[1779]
Edited by: Omara Otawan on 07/10/2009 04:25:14
Originally by: GreGh Rakrot
according to "forum that shall not be named" ccp is decreasing timer to 1.3 sec and making button unclickable during that timer
That would actually be a good middle ground imo. While I would prefer it to be even a bit lower, I could live with that.
Making the button unclickable is a great idea as well, should also remove the auto-rescan when adjusting angle.
Edit: or go an entirely different way and make the delay depending on how many things the scanner actually finds, say 10 msec for every signature found.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.10.07 04:27:00 -
[1780]
Originally by: GreGh Rakrot
according to "forum that shall not be named" ccp is decreasing timer to 1.3 sec and making button unclickable during that timer
I was going to suggest the same thing, though 1.3 is probably still a bit long. It's fine for people that just spam the button to check for enemies but when you're fast at using the directional scanner to pinpoint something, any delay over 0.5 seconds will slow you down.
What if they changed the delay to 0.5 for frigates, 1.3 for cruisers and 2 for anything bigger? Scouts and covops would retain their current usage but mission-runners and w-space pilots (the kind that need to spam the button) will still only be able to hit it every 1.3 to 2 seconds.
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.10.07 09:12:00 -
[1781]
The only thing CCP has to do is remove the delay from narrow scans.
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Alistone Malikite
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Posted - 2009.10.07 10:30:00 -
[1782]
.3 seconds or less should be fine - for an inty, 2s is ridiculous.
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Rho Legate
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Posted - 2009.10.07 10:33:00 -
[1783]
Definetly needs changing
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.10.07 11:53:00 -
[1784]
Crap. Scanning wasn't lagging up my game in the first place.
"Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future." |
Krrak
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Posted - 2009.10.07 12:17:00 -
[1785]
signed
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Blackfiredaemon
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Posted - 2009.10.07 14:26:00 -
[1786]
Signed, 2s or even 1.3s is ridiculous.
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Waci
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2009.10.07 16:45:00 -
[1787]
Support this topic. Remember, your alts support it too.
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Altaieere
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Posted - 2009.10.07 19:17:00 -
[1788]
supported |
Arch Law
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Posted - 2009.10.07 22:42:00 -
[1789]
As far as I can tell, CCP added scanner delay for purely technical reasons... so the chances of this delay being removed are as likely as session change timers being removed. I think it would be more productive for your thumbs to instead weigh in on the proposals trying to fix local/system hunting.
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Miklas Laces
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.10.09 06:29:00 -
[1790]
Edited by: Miklas Laces on 09/10/2009 06:30:01
I've lost any hope in CCP.
Luckily EvE was very good and they're slow so it will take them lot of time to ruin the game piece by piece.
This scanner thing is too bad because the way it was done shows that they dont play the game at all, and they certainly dont PvP.
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CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation
Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tourname |
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Ichi Kamikaze
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Posted - 2009.10.09 07:35:00 -
[1791]
Supported.
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Arretu
Khanid Guard
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.09 22:06:00 -
[1792]
support
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Xodus TC
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Posted - 2009.10.11 02:17:00 -
[1793]
What a bunch of little babies...
Love the tears chumps, keep it rollin!
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ardik
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.11 14:42:00 -
[1794]
hey yes
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Reckoning 09
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Posted - 2009.10.14 00:04:00 -
[1795]
OMG i bumped this thread!!
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popnik
Traders Buisness Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.10.14 14:53:00 -
[1796]
supported
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The Slagh
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Posted - 2009.10.15 20:07:00 -
[1797]
bumping back to front. 60 pages, let's get some response.
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Cyzlak
Karkand Kampa
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Posted - 2009.10.16 06:08:00 -
[1798]
Scantimer has been reduced to 1.3 seconds in the last update so you all got what you wanted. Stop complaining.
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Zefir0
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:08:00 -
[1799]
Edited by: Zefir0 on 16/10/2009 23:09:32
I support you guys
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Desiry
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Posted - 2009.10.16 23:12:00 -
[1800]
Supported
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Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.10.18 09:30:00 -
[1801]
AFK in a belt near you |
Gary Goat
Yakuza Corp
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2009.10.18 10:36:00 -
[1802]
Supported!
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Somal Thundir
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Posted - 2009.10.18 23:43:00 -
[1803]
BOMP
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Wasted Skillpoints
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Posted - 2009.10.23 00:40:00 -
[1804]
Bonsoir
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.10.23 08:03:00 -
[1805]
any news on this?
Uncripple the scanner, give us our lag back
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Matrices Reborn
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.30 18:08:00 -
[1806]
More proof that there is some kind of iron law at CCP that solo PvP must be nerfed. This decision is beyond ******ed. Clearly no one at CCP hunts ratters.
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Dax Buchanan
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.11.02 13:52:00 -
[1807]
Supported. Annoying nerf to scouting.
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Batolemaeus
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.11.05 06:02:00 -
[1808]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
.5 of a second would barely noticeable, 1 second would be just about bearable. 2 seconds is a gigantic pain when trying to scan down a target quickly.
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Odda
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:17:00 -
[1809]
need more posts!
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Shai 'Hulud
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.11.06 19:47:00 -
[1810]
I'm guessing this was implemented to cut down on the server usage. To that extent, I do not support an implementation of the scanner that is using too much resources. That said, this delay seems to be only a temporary solution. It does not reduce the resource cost of each scan, only limits the rate at which any individual player can scan (i.e. 2 people scanning once every 2 seconds = 1 person scanning every second).
I do, however, believe that the efficiency of the directional scanner could probably be improved. Properly implemented, I see no reason why the directional scanner shouldn't simply be turned on/off (constant scan).
I do support a more permanent fix to the directional scanners resource usage
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ItommoI
Caldari
Task Force Zener
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:09:00 -
[1811]
signed.
2 sec delay sucks.
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Kantega
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Posted - 2009.11.06 20:10:00 -
[1812]
so thats why im ****ing up my scanning
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The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.11.07 07:49:00 -
[1813]
This **** is still gay.
ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM |
The'Best Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2009.11.07 07:50:00 -
[1814]
Oh wait this is a different character on a different account I can pledge my support again hurrrrrr
ALEKSEYEV KARRDE FOR CSM |
Xolido
Minmatar
JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2009.11.07 17:05:00 -
[1815]
/signed
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Sever Aldaria
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.07 17:20:00 -
[1816]
Edited by: Sever Aldaria on 07/11/2009 17:23:11
Signed
EDIT: Forgot to check support box. Never seen that before.
[green]Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further d |
Rain Finale
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Posted - 2009.11.07 17:22:00 -
[1817]
/signed
Change is bad
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Evil Amarrian142
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Posted - 2009.11.07 23:31:00 -
[1818]
Bad change is bad, mmmkay?
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Tio'Arun
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Posted - 2009.11.08 10:00:00 -
[1819]
supported
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Makolif
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Posted - 2009.11.12 12:46:00 -
[1820]
I agree.
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Valadeya uthanaras
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2009.11.12 20:59:00 -
[1821]
signed
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Dani Leone
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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Posted - 2009.11.13 09:28:00 -
[1822]
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Die Kutte
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Posted - 2009.11.17 21:47:00 -
[1823]
Just bumping this because the delay is still a funkiller
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Serj Darek
Minmatar
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.11.18 01:04:00 -
[1824]
Put it back to the zero delay please, it sucks in it's current state
Teadaze for CSM |
Kaasumi
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.01 14:15:00 -
[1825]
I agree!
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Krystal Flores
Amarr
Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2009.12.03 09:01:00 -
[1826]
get rid of the dumb timer between scans atleast make it .1sec
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Ozone71
Caldari
Kamikaze Fleet Command
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Posted - 2009.12.03 10:27:00 -
[1827]
What about a cache? You update the cache every 1 second, but let people spam a local cache as often as they like.
Server lag is reduced since you do not update every time you hit the button, but it lets you scan practically constantly to help you narrow down the "last known location" faster.
Some people will bemoan the fact that with a cache, you might locate someone, but in actual fact they left 0.99s ago. Considering that they could leave the location within the few seconds that it takes you to warp there, an extra second is not a huge difference.
"Ozone is blue and smells faintly of geraniums." (Qi, BBC TV) |
Kyle Cataclysm
Blue.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 03:49:00 -
[1828]
Signed.
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Avatoin
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Posted - 2009.12.11 22:49:00 -
[1829]
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Omega Flames
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Posted - 2009.12.13 04:50:00 -
[1830]
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Sianen
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Posted - 2010.01.29 17:35:00 -
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Mind-numbingly unwieldy change to the dscanner. |
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