Originally by: Dianeces

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You didn't bother to look at the killmail, did you?

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Originally by: Ranka Mei

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Originally by: Dianeces

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You didn't bother to look at the killmail, did you?

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Troll-padding your Monkeyman's killmails is not going to fool CCP.

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Lastly, generally, for this attack to work, the victim committed an exploit, plain and simple. Its the only way it works, ever. Be it player, or bot, either had to purposefully and intentionally commit the act that damns you to being a victim of Monkey.

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Originally by: Pestilent Industries

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The Monkeysphere admits to exploiting in this thread here:

Scrapheap Challenge

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Originally by: Dianeces

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Originally by: Ranka Mei

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Originally by: Dianeces

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You didn't bother to look at the killmail, did you?

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Troll-padding your Monkeyman's killmails is not going to fool CCP.

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Cool story. Monkey hasn't done anything wrong, why would we need to post fake mails?

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Originally by: Ranka Mei

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Originally by: Dianeces

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Originally by: Ranka Mei

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Originally by: Dianeces

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You didn't bother to look at the killmail, did you?

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Troll-padding your Monkeyman's killmails is not going to fool CCP.

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Cool story. Monkey hasn't done anything wrong, why would we need to post fake mails?

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You tell me! :) It's very simple:

1) Either those killmails and forum posts that keep showing up, in which Monkeyboy repeatedly admits to having used a non-local exploit, are true. EOL for the Monkster then.

2) They are fake 'logs' and killmail added by PL folks in an attempt to do, yeah, what exactly? I say, troll-padding the evidence against him, in the hope CCP will become confused.

In case nr. 2 is true, only you yourselves can tell why you keep making up fake killmails. Or were you saying his confessions were not false? You can't have your cookie and eat it.

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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain

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WTS Troll-padding

Discounts for bulk orders.

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Lastly, generally, for this attack to work, the victim committed an exploit, plain and simple. Its the only way it works, ever. Be it player, or bot, either had to purposefully and intentionally commit the act that damns you to being a victim of Monkey.

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Two exploits do not make a right.

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Lastly, generally, for this attack to work, the victim committed an exploit, plain and simple. Its the only way it works, ever. Be it player, or bot, either had to purposefully and intentionally commit the act that damns you to being a victim of Monkey.

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Two exploits do not make a right.

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You should re-read what I wrote, because I didn't say that Monkey exploited.

What I said (I'll type it twice, so you can understand it) was:

For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

Puzzle that through, and you know how he does it (yes, even KILLING 3 RATTERS SO FAST), its pretty damn easy.

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

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Nice try, bro! But too FAT.

Go be fat somewhere else. [insert image you like here].

Originally by: Grath Telkin

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What I said (I'll type it twice, so you can understand it) was:

For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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What I said (I'll type it twice, so you can understand it) was:

For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

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Hey, I'm just having a discussion, no need to be snarky, I certainly wasn't.

My question is, what makes this attack so effective?

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit

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Originally by: Boomershoot

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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What I said (I'll type it twice, so you can understand it) was:

For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

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Hey, I'm just having a discussion, no need to be snarky, I certainly wasn't.

My question is, what makes this attack so effective?

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They're directed against simple algorithms.

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Boomershoot

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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Originally by: Grath Telkin

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What I said (I'll type it twice, so you can understand it) was:

For the ATTACK to work, the VICTIM committed an exploit.

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Hey, I'm just having a discussion, no need to be snarky, I certainly wasn't.

My question is, what makes this attack so effective?

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They're directed against simple algorithms.

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Of the macroer, you mean?

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Originally by: Romale

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In the hopes of clearing my alliances name,

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Originally by: Orephia

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Originally by: Certero

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I'll be waiting for this just to troll in new threads about EU and US botters

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So far I have great appreciation for the Russian EvE community's contribution in bringing this issue to light, and respect for their overall self-moderation in response to PL's racist trolling to obscure the real progress that has been made. No need to look forward to sinking below their level. Don't help them to derail the issue, this is not about macros & bots, it's about exploiting the client, and needs to stay focused on that.
We have the no local part, what about the insta scan & warp to victim part. Please let the investigation continue without hugging the doodoo strewn about by the monkeyshine crew.

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Originally by: Romale

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I wish to have the following noted for the record: that Monkeysphere served PL faithfully and honorably in every major engagement and was awarded the PL Cross for actions in defense of his alliance; that he have never been arrested or indicted for any crime whatsoever; that no proof linking him to any criminal conspiracy whether it is called "exploiters" or "botters" or whatever other name you wish to give has ever been made public. He has not taken refuge silence, though it is his right to do. I challenge CCP/bolsheviks to produce any evidence against him. And if they do not, I hope they will have the decency to clear his name with the same publicity with which they now have besmirched it.

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Originally by: Bobbechk

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How its really done...

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Originally by: Boomershoot

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I Wonder if they even bother making a non-cyrillic version now.

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Originally by: Romale

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its funny you consider the pl trolling racist when its pretty clear that the ones being racist here is the russian community from eve-ru (the ones posting in the monkey thread anyway)

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Originally by: Boomershoot

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Originally by: Douglass Bryant

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My question is, what makes this attack so effective?

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They're directed against simple algorithms.

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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia

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but accepting this as true tells us the victims themselves are cheating to begin with making the ru characters the guilty party!!

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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia

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clearly this exploit exists due to the reproduction of the exploit by this huulu character making HIM the guilty party.

however, monkey apparently has upset a great many russian players by possibly using this exploit but no one has evidence. to assume these ru characters are telling the truth about the PL character would make HIM the guilty party.

but, since no one has actually provided any evidence that monkey has used this exploit and providing reproduction of an exploit and explaining how to reproduce said exploit is against the game rules, that would make nunununu the guilty party!

EXCEPT, now it appears that the exploit is only possible when the victim himself is using an exploit making the very knowledge of which indicative of guilt making PL the guilty party!

but accepting this as true tells us the victims themselves are cheating to begin with making the ru characters the guilty party!!

but the ru characters would know this already and not divulge such information unless they too knew some other avenue by which to make themselves impervious to reproach (or would they?) but then too the monkey would also have such knowledge before discussing (or would he?)

furthermore, no one has provided any evidence of wrong doing by this monkey character and the only evidence so far is that the ru characters have been admittedly using bots to harvest isk meaning both parties know the poison is in THEIR....*croak*

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