Thousands of years in the future, in an age of nanobot upgrades? Makes perfect sense, actually.

I propose a heavy tax on all activity in Hi-Sec. Missions, mining, production, everything. I severely doubt the US gov't and all the powerful corporations in the us would allow me to go mining for gold wherever I wanted somewhere in New Jersey and that if I did find something that I wouldn't immediately be pressured/sued/incarcerated into selling the rights to the land or never going near where I found the gold again. Something needs to sustain these empires and Concord, right? If you want to AFK mine, fine, go ahead, but if you do so in Hi-Sec you should net very little if any profit after huge taxes for doing so in Empire space. It is their asteroid after all.

What happens in real world when one of those pseudo-socialist countries impose the next tax is that capital and big corps move to less stupid countries. See France. See Italy. And more.

I can't take it anymore - You keep saying that Hulks need to fit 'fitting mods' to survive a Catalyst gank.

This is utter bullcrap and you need to stop repeating it.

Dave Stark- let me introduce you to the Damage Control II.

Damage Control II: meet the Hulk.

Hulk - you now have enough EHP to survive a T2 Catalyst gank with perfect skills in highsec - and you STILL have 1 Low slot, 4 mid slots and two rig slots left to work with.

So dispense with the misinformation, please.

If Soundwave wasn't either trolling or using the wrong words, well, his post is pretty much the death of the PvP MMO.

Yet we are presented with those LOL YOU MUST HAVE 32 K EHP OR YOU PLAY WRONG LOL fittings and they use a MAPC. End of MLU.

In the meanwhile I don't recall EVER having had to fit a MLU in any of my other PvP or PvE ships. And I have loads.

The following combat ships require at least one fitting mod.
Arty Cane
Every Logistics ship Ever.
Hellcats (that T2 Elutrition rig? That's a fitting mod)
100mn Tengus (Officer Fitting mods, even).
Stealth Bombers
Fleet Dictors
AHACs (Zealots need their RCU)
Sniper HACs

You haven't flown many combat ships, have you?

yeah no PvP ship needs an MLU because, you see, it's not going anywhere close to an asteroid

Sorry I meant MAPC.

You have instant AFK mining machine - with zero fear of gank.

Maybe if you tried reading.

It has nothing to do with DPS. It has to do with the lead game designer using a thoroughly and completely discredited balance concept that became obsolete somewhere in the early Triassic era GÇö a view on balance that simply does not work, and which has been proven beyond any doubt not to work time and time again (and which is responsible for one of the most egregious imbalances this game has offered GÇö one that they are struggling to correct to this day).

False, they're not invulnerable and you can still use same mechanics to gank them.

What happens in real world when one of those pseudo-socialist countries impose the next tax is that capital and big corps move to less stupid countries. See France. See Italy. And more.

So is this about the new mining barges? How much tears do they hold now?

So is this about the new mining barges? How much tears do they hold now?

Then the answer is the same your ilk has always given to everybody else: adapt or quit.

What happens in real world when one of those pseudo-socialist countries impose the next tax is that capital and big corps move to less stupid countries. See France. See Italy. And more.

lmao "they can still be ganked guys! you only need 20 tornadoes"

tell me when you see a tier 3 BC ganking a hulk

What about punishing people who fit poorly? This suicide ganking ship:ship ratio is only off because people refuse to change. This is a social problem not a balance problem.

Exactly. A capsuleer is supposed to be a demigod in space. If the income generation in hi sec was far less than it is, people would be out in low and null and be forced to interact. Leave Hi-sec for the truly new players or for trading hubs. Limit ship size in Hi sec, I see no reason why these vast NPC empires would allow self obsessed lunatic immortals to fly around in Battleships. The only thing Hi-Sec should retain, imo, as an advantage over Low and Null is in industry production. We need more reasons to interact with one another and more tension over resources. Not more reasons to go hide in our mission rooms and Worm Holes and Asteroid belts feeling 100% safe all the time.

Yesterday in Sirseshin, several times.