Why are you then surprised it's happening again this month?

Ah, I thought I read 1 ISK PU in the quoted text. Has to be bad sight of mine.

Official bet: I will give you 1 billion if within 6 months from the patch trit goes to 1 ISK pu (Jita IV price).

If it does not, you will give me 1 billion instead.

Chribba or Grendell will be used to hold my and your billion in the mean time.

Deal?

Just throwing this out there; what if the lower the system sec status the faster the mining laser cycle time?

You forgot the obvious Tengu off grid booster too. Could not believe my eyes when I have seen it put in EFT to engross displayed EHP. This along with min maxing against kin / therm, while my gank ship sales tell EMP is still used too. Ship pre-scanning happens!

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All this bleating: "no fair I lose my 300M ISK Hulk to a 1M ISK Catalyst."
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Funny, all I hear in this thread is "no fair I cant profitably gank a 300M ISK Hulk in a 1M ISK Catalyst."

If you want to kill hulks, use bigger ships.

Hulks will be like 100-150m with the tech nerf.

Like 12 pages since my last reply, but I have to ask again;

Does anyone else feel like Soundwave admitting that ganking isn't working right a bit ridiculous. Something that's been broken for at least 3-4 years. I assume it was also broken before then? How could it not be? They even made a gay ass rap video insulting their fanbase, "HTFU".

I got my name from soundwaves interview where he said (paraphrasing) its OK that a lot of people "dont get eve" natural selection blah blah blah.

Do you think just maybe being condescending d-bags should be saved until your **** is working as intended?

i don't think soundwave was being a bit ridiculous with what he said. however i don't think he really managed to convey what he meant with such a short statement. i feel he's going to have to elaborate on it at some point [hopefully soon]. people seem to be interpreting what they want for it since it's a rather short and unsupported statement.

And you can't kill a 30k EHP hulk solo in a 0.7 system even with a 1 billion isk vindicator. Isk balancing is dumb balancing.

Or - and this is an extraordinarily insane idea that's bound to rocket my lowly forum troll to the top of nulsecs most wanted...

You could wardec them? I mean I'm sure this is part of CCP's reasoning. They spend all this time 'fixing' their wardec system for this expansion, and everyone just ignores it and suiganks. Maybe this buff is CCP's way of telling us that if you want to prey on poor helpless miners you have to expose yourself to risk first?

This reply isn't directed at you Dez, but you had I nice segway for my post...

I would really like to see that too, because while interpretation by the general public is always subject to heavy debacle, he did use the words " the current setup doesn't work".

Since the current setup has been altered in the favor of the defending pilot several times, it leaves only a few possible conclusions. That it has been broken a long time, or that this years douchogheddon has altered the game.

If the former is true, that speaks very badly on CCP's ability to balance.

If the latter is true, it is admitting that that there is in fact in game harassment of players, sponsored by the publisher. While CCP is free to keep their definition of 'grief play', and only handing out punishment for 'grief play' on an 'at will' basis, harassment is illegal in most places.

Highsec miners would still mine in highsec & complain about how nullsec miners can make even more isk per hour than them.

Let me spell it out:

Suppose I want to attack miners in an NPC corp? How do I wardec them, hmmm?
And even if the miners are in a player corp, lets go step by step, right?

-So, I'm scouting an icebelt and I find a group of miners that I want to attack.

I spend 160M-500M ISK for a wardec.
Next day, I'm in a war with multiple alliances.
(And thats perfectly OK - gankers aren't afraid of a fight, provided we aren't expected to do it while being attacked by Fed Navy)

Are the miners docked up/logged off? Fine. Are the miners in combat ships? Fine.

But what REALLY happens? I find the miners have dropped corp and are still mining as if the war never was declared. This is not fine.

Wardecs are useless, and probably always will be. Ninja tactics have been are will be further nerfed. Canflipping will be dead. Suicide ganking is the ONLY way left to wage direct industrial warfare on mining assets of an alliance.

So.

Would give a bit more meaning to where you mine sec wise, even in high sec. As long as it stated it right on the mining laser so miners would read it, look at their 0.9 system and go, "Aww.... maybe I should look into low/null/unknown space for really good yield.."

Mimimimimi......check out on Sisi rigth now, seems CCP has listened to your whinning thread Herr Wilkus......they lowred the stats from the Miningships down again to something more fitting your needs beeing able to easy gank them.

So again the loudest vocal whiner voices from the PvP fraction have won again......Shame on you CCP.

Currently Scordite is 3rd most valuable ore in the game. Only Arkonor and Mercoxit are more valuable.

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Once you're sat in a belt doing the most mind numbing profession in EVE there's not much you can do if someone warps in on you.

stop conveying half a story; gankers complained about the ehp, miners complained about crystal sizes.

BOTH concerns have been addressed. both voices have been listened to.

Mimimimimi......check out on Sisi rigth now, seems CCP has listened to your whinning thread Herr Wilkus......they lowred the stats from the Miningships down again to something more fitting your needs beeing able to easy gank them.

So again the loudest vocal whiner voices from the PvP fraction have won again......Shame on you CCP.