You might think so, hu...

Well, make a real world comparison then: What do you think how many mining companies would go out of business when terrorists would start attacking them specifically and in force... what would that do to international industry? Material shortages, sky rocketing prices on anything manufactured out of metal, you get the picture.

Unlike that of real life, EVE's economy exists solely because the window gets broken over and over again.

hogwash, this change was long overdue.. and the risk for reward has been out of wack in the favor of combat null sec for too long .. concidering especially that for years we've been hearing from the same people crying now that high sec is not safe, then they proved it..

Are you even in Nullsec? There's no real money to be had compared to running level 4 missions forever, unless you rat in a carrier.

Ok, true, that's one reason why I always thought ALL ships should need maintainance and fuel... oh well.^^

I've heard you can get 60M/hr ratting. Plus officer spawns... Can be solo'd too.

Meh, relying on CCP to buff, nerf and otherwise pick sides in the gankers versus miners drama is bad design. Defending or killing miners really should be up to the players. IMO, CCP should have used the CrimeWatch overhaul fix the ganking problem, specifically by making the criminal flag permanent. If you want to gank someone, go for it, but don't be surprised if the rest of the community/faction hunts you down, sanctions you, revokes your docking privileges, and denies access to station services for being such a twit.

60m/hr ratting is nothing compared to grinding the incursion equivalent of l2 missions for 120m/hr

Meh, relying on CCP to buff, nerf and otherwise pick sides in the gankers versus miners drama is bad design. Defending or killing miners really should be up to the players. IMO, CCP should have used the CrimeWatch overhaul fix the ganking problem, specifically by making the criminal flag permanent. If you want to gank someone, go for it, but don't be surprised if the rest of the community/faction hunts you down, sanctions you, revokes your docking privileges, and denies access to station services for being such a twit.

Even if you blitz L4s you can't get 120M/hr.

or i'll just rephrase your dumb ideas: "please make hisec 100% risk-free"

Meh, relying on CCP to buff, nerf and otherwise pick sides in the gankers versus miners drama is bad design. Defending or killing miners really should be up to the players. IMO, CCP should have used the CrimeWatch overhaul to fix the ganking problem, specifically by making the criminal flag permanent. If you want to gank someone, go for it, but don't be surprised if the rest of the community/faction hunts you down, sanctions you, revokes your docking privileges, and denies access to station services for being such a twit.

Well, as long as you get the balance right i dont think anybody can seriously complain...

As it stands, we have cause for concern.

Just one example - Why should an Exhumer get a greater shield resists per level bonus than a HIC?

edit - its as if the stats have been dreamed up by a DEV thats been suicide ganked on his alt account one too many times

They want to profit, but they don't want to be liable for some of the risk that gives industry its purpose. It's these people who are responsible for the type of changes CCP has been implementing lately.

running vanguards with a non-horrible fleet gets you that, if not more, with ease

and there's literally no risk because even if dudes in blackbirds start suicide jamming logis, CCP will just nerf suicide ECM

Says someone who wants Concord and station/gate guns removed from hisec.

it's more commendable to be able to do some thing bad, and choose not to do it rather than not doing it because you can't.

That won't happen as long as I'm around, btw.

Suicide ganking wasn't designed to be profitable, it's meant to be an option that let's you punish someone else at your expense. The money you paid for a ship to gank with compared to the money lost by your target was completely off and this change should bring that to a better spot. That said, the numbers can still be adjusted.

No. Not even close. At least not with any measure of consistency. One hour, you may land 100mil, but the next three may make 20 million total.

"oh man i won't have NPCs fight my battles for me, THE HORROR"

I've heard you can get 60M/hr ratting. Plus officer spawns... Can be solo'd too.

SEC rating is not properly enforced.

Like tanking Concord is very difficult... L2P.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnjK5EVsIfI

That is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard.

Back when I lived in Nullsec I could make 400mil-1.5 bil from running a single Sanctum.

If you did anomalies and escalations you could get rich FAST.

If you only make 60 mil per hour in 0.0 you are doing it VERY wrong.

The Special Snowflake brick tank is required only to counter a special snowflake team of many T1 Dessies in .5 space. Anywhere else, you can fit a smaller tank and still be unprofitable.

Many T1 dessies is not a special snowflake at all.

2-3 of them is what every non rookie ganker use in 0.7 and below. Usually they don't use more as they seem to get bored and scale up to bigger hulls past 5 catalysts.

sorry bro they nerfed sanctums before they added incursions

let me tell you all about how much more lively it made nullsec

woow i never seen a thread grow so fast

I am still convinced that some of you gankers are just crying about the fact that ganking became suddenly so much harder for you

So, did anyone answer this question regarding Exhumer resists vs HIC resists i posed the other day?

I'd really like to know